Re: [RCSE] EZ glider setup?
Per Fritz Bien's suggestion, I drilled a hole in mine behind the existing hook and glued in a dowel.with CA (mine is 5/16" dia, not sure what Fritz used). Then I drilled a hole in the dowel and screwed in one of those rebent cup hook with wood thread towhooks. Mine is about 1/4" aft of the aftmost part of the plastic hook platform, or maybe 15 1/8" back from the nose. (But it's more accurate to measure from the hook.) :aunches fine. I think Fritz goes another 1/8" back, but I think he likes the cg to be further back than I do. Only drawback is that you can't get a clean hole with a standard drill bit, although I'm sure there's a way to get one. I had to throw in a lot of glue.Fritz launched his very hard many times before a defect in the cover over the wing rod area let go. I don't know if they meant it that way, but the EZ glider is a pretty good thermal glider, and I don't really try to get it to roll fast. It's really necessary to use the rudder if you want it to turn well. I think the instructions that come with it say you can use an 8mm threaded rod for ballast inside the wing rod. I use 1/4" straight rod. Speeds it up quite a bit. The EZ glider is pretty fast for it's weight, and with the ballast it's faster. I found it fun on some gusty days with small thermals, though I admit it's not aerobatic. But don't trust me because I spend quite a bit of time flying floaters. Still, it's not hopeless when you put the nose down. What's weird about it, though, is how fast it loses energy when you come in for a landing and slow down a bit. Not a lot of momentum, somehow. Haven't got a technical explanation figured out yet. MM wrote: Mine didn't come with a hook, where is the best position? (I do seem to have some bungees handy!) Also, is there a specific weight that will cause this thing to get "on step" and really fly or is it doomed to be a floater? I have only flown it for a few short flights, a couple in gusting wind and although it seems to penetrate ok, it always seems to be more of a mushy floater. I can't imagine a roll unless it was in a vertical dive! MM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] EZ glider setup?
>Mine didn't come with a hook, where is the best position? There's a plastic plate for the hook mount. Most people drill a small hole a few mm forward of the end of the plate and slightly offset and stick a 'L' shaped metal hook in there. The offset is to allow the hook to be glued to a plastic spar running the length of the fuse. The CG is quite a way back -- like many people I've had to put a small weight on the tail; the plane can be a bit sensitive but that's half the fun of flying it. You can easily winch launch the plane if you're gentle. Many people slip a carbon fiber arrowshaft inside the fiberglass spar tube. >Also, is there a specific weight that will cause this thing to get "on step" and really fly or is it doomed to be a floater? If you've got it set up right then it will fly like a real sailplane. Out the box its very much a "launch and land" plane because the standard setup is so conservative. Once you've got it dialed in it flies pretty much like any other saiplane. My setup includes significant aileron differential (4:1), exponential on the elevator and very limited coupling between aileron and rudder (you steer it with the rudder, not the ailerons). It likes to fly quite fast, its a bit like a 2 meter, so don't be tempted to keep pulling back on the stick because it will be mushy and not perform very well. I don't know about aerobatics with these things, the game around here seems to be to see how long you can keep one up flying thermals off a winch launch (one of our club members regularly gets over an hour)(I'm not so good but I've still had a few 30+ minute flights), its a sort of "lets see if we can outlast the upmarket moldie" challenge. I suppose flying one off a slope would just be a case of how long your receiver battery and your patience lasts. Martin Usher PS ("Motor?" . what's a "motor"?) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] EZ glider setup?
Mine didn't come with a hook, where is the best position? (I do seem to have some bungees handy!) Also, is there a specific weight that will cause this thing to get "on step" and really fly or is it doomed to be a floater? I have only flown it for a few short flights, a couple in gusting wind and although it seems to penetrate ok, it always seems to be more of a mushy floater. I can't imagine a roll unless it was in a vertical dive! MM - Original Message - From: "Tom Copp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:44 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] EZ glider setup? Out West we: Can sand bumps but keep them visible. Haven't noticed any improvement in flight. LE with tape is OK. Taps as a single layer and not 100 plies for changing the airfoil. Stock Control size only. Carbon spar OK Move Tow hook. We normalize the carbon spar by using a light zip start so no winch wars and a stock EZ launches as well as a modified EZ on these. If you winch the Carbon spar is the ticket. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] EZ glider setup? So what's legal for EZ gliders? Sanding mold bumps? Protecting leading edges with tape? Can we make the control surfaces larger??? I find the response to be sluggish.. I am running a 2 cell lipo on the stock motor setup, climb is not fantastic, but good enough, what is the consensus for the best setup??? Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] EZ glider setup?
Out West we: Can sand bumps but keep them visible. Haven't noticed any improvement in flight. LE with tape is OK. Taps as a single layer and not 100 plies for changing the airfoil. Stock Control size only. Carbon spar OK Move Tow hook. We normalize the carbon spar by using a light zip start so no winch wars and a stock EZ launches as well as a modified EZ on these. If you winch the Carbon spar is the ticket. Tom Copp Composite Specialties www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] EZ glider setup? So what's legal for EZ gliders? Sanding mold bumps? Protecting leading edges with tape? Can we make the control surfaces larger??? I find the response to be sluggish.. I am running a 2 cell lipo on the stock motor setup, climb is not fantastic, but good enough, what is the consensus for the best setup??? Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] EZ glider setup?
So what's legal for EZ gliders? Sanding mold bumps? Protecting leading edges with tape? Can we make the control surfaces larger??? I find the response to be sluggish.. I am running a 2 cell lipo on the stock motor setup, climb is not fantastic, but good enough, what is the consensus for the best setup??? Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format