[RCSE] "Nat's or Bust! Here today...RES"
Hi guys, Got in last nite and just heading out to the field shortly. Looks like great weather! Armed and dangerous with a Super AVA. :-) Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Nat's changes
If we are talking about thinking outside of the box, here's a thought. Seems as if Muncie has a beautiful site that can handle all the disciplines. The major gripe is that West/East coast guys can't afford the cost to travel there. How about if the AMA offers clubs a travel package to attend the NATS? If you bring 5 guys, you get a certain amount per person. If you bring 10, the number goes up. There has to be some sort of incentive given. It would be nice to see all the dues that have been paid over the years come back to the flyers. Maybe this could be part of a new AMA budget. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA > From: breck baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:13:35 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats's changes > > Pat McCleave wrote: >> >> Jason and others, > >> Just >> because something is GOOD does not mean it can't be made BETTER. Maybe >> moving around is not what is needed as much as adjusting the schedules give >> more time to what is the most popular. This is one flyers opinion and I >> would love to hear from all others. >> > > I believe last year had one day of HLG, it is not worth it to me to > travel for one day contests, so I would attend HLG if the nats added a > day. HLG Golf + 2 days of standard HLG sounds like a ton of fun. > > Or I should just learn to fly those big scary unlimited planes and fill > my schedule with that. > > breck > > >> See Ya, >> >> Pat McCleave >> Wichita, KS >> >> _ >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >> RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >> "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
Mike, I would have kindly given up my "mug shot" for a few hundred words of your prose :-) Steve Siebenaler Mike Garton wrote: > Bob constrained me to 2000 words for soaring coverage. > I had enough facts to write 5000 if he would let me. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
In a message dated 11/01/2001 4:38:16 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bob constrained me to 2000 words for soaring coverage. > I had enough facts to write 5000 if he would let me. > > As for choice of what soaring events got more words, > there is obviously personal bias in what I think > is newsworthy (Sorry Jim B). Point taken though, > one vote for more unlimited next year. :-) Mike, I thought you did a great job given the constraints you had to work with. I guess you could use some of the trimmings from the NATS issue as seed material for regular columns. The amount of space they allow really only gives a slight glance at an event that fills a whole week. Heck, we're crazy enough that we could fill two weeks with soaring. That'd be a challenge to squash into 2000 words. All in all, I guess you had to be there, guys :) Plan on it next year! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
Charles Miller wrote: > > Good Morning > I just recieved my Model Aviation magazine. It covers the Nat's. > It still looks like controll line and free flight get way more press > than Soaring > It seems like AMA just isn't into it! > Cheers > Charlie Charlie, AMA has always used the popular events to subsidize the less popular ones. This takes place even within soaring. i.e. Scale and F3B have low turn outs. Remember though, it was F3B that pushed most of the advances in structures and aerodynamics that we currently enjoy. I have never seen anyone in my state flying any of those free flight events. I do know that my RC gliders have benefited from advances in those other categories. We also get many good modelers that cross-over or "build up" to RC soaring. I will admit that I raised my eyebrows when I got my magazine this month and found what looks like double coverage of RC aerobatics. They look about the same to me. :-) Seems like if they were going to split "scale aerobatics" and "aerobatics" into two articles that we should have SEVERAL for soaring. This may have been a personal bias of the editor. Every editor and every writer has some bias. Bob constrained me to 2000 words for soaring coverage. I had enough facts to write 5000 if he would let me. As for choice of what soaring events got more words, there is obviously personal bias in what I think is newsworthy (Sorry Jim B). Point taken though, one vote for more unlimited next year. :-) Both the editor and myself DO listen to constructive criticism. Feel free to email myself or editor Bob Hunt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Mike Garton RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
The biggest contest there, Unlimited TD, got a few sentences... 8-( RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
I dunno. Seems like the jammed at least 6 or 7 soaring events into 4 pages. Bill Conkling wrote: > > I think you'll find that R/C gets it's share of coverage as compared to > Free Flight and Control Line. But, there are a lot more events in Free > FLight and prably also Control Line then in R/C. Each event gets a slice > of coverage. > > When I got started in the mid '60s, the R/C Nats was two events. Pattern > and AMA Pylon Racing (not the 3 pylon course we use today but a two pylon > course for up to .19 cu in engines). The mags published a complete list > of who flew what and how well they placed. Now there are so many events > that they only list the top 5 or ten places. I think some mags even split > the reviews so that each category was hilighted in a different month's > issue. > > .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.widomaker.com/~conk > Williamsburg, VA 23185 > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Charles Miller wrote: > > > Good Morning > > I just recieved my Model Aviation magazine. It covers the Nat's. > > It still looks like controll line and free flight get way more press > > than Soaring > > It seems like AMA just isn't into it! > > Cheers > > Charlie > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] R/C Slope and Power Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://members.nbci.com/bjaffee/extra300/ OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
I think you'll find that R/C gets it's share of coverage as compared to Free Flight and Control Line. But, there are a lot more events in Free FLight and prably also Control Line then in R/C. Each event gets a slice of coverage. When I got started in the mid '60s, the R/C Nats was two events. Pattern and AMA Pylon Racing (not the 3 pylon course we use today but a two pylon course for up to .19 cu in engines). The mags published a complete list of who flew what and how well they placed. Now there are so many events that they only list the top 5 or ten places. I think some mags even split the reviews so that each category was hilighted in a different month's issue. .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Charles Miller wrote: > Good Morning > I just recieved my Model Aviation magazine. It covers the Nat's. > It still looks like controll line and free flight get way more press > than Soaring > It seems like AMA just isn't into it! > Cheers > Charlie > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
Good Morning I just recieved my Model Aviation magazine. It covers the Nat's. It still looks like controll line and free flight get way more press than Soaring It seems like AMA just isn't into it! Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's????
Charlie, The Nat's is a stepping stone. F3h[Cross Country] fliers maintained their proficiency should a WC be run anytime. F3k[HLG] pilots, I hear, turned out for what has been reported once again as a fun and competitive day. For the F3j pilots its another "practice, practice, practice" session since they don't have to qualify for the team selection contest. The F3b event is run as a 2 round event making it a "qualifier" and there were three pilots that were unqualified going into the event, I think two were hoping to "Q". Neither qualified that day and I'm sorry we didn't have time to do absolutes after the event. but for the others, all going to the finals in Sacramento[and the Worlds?], it was good practice. Dennis --- charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >, or mabe AMA should use > the > nats as a sort of stepping stone to USA team selections... I guess > i am > curious why this isn't mabe a qualifyer? __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Nat's????
Good Morning I had to cancel the Nat's two years in a row,, due to my demanding buisness well when you own it , your married to it!!! I was bummed both times,,, I know it's a good contest... Many of my flyin buddies have informed me that i missed a good contest.. I believe them. I think one of the things i missed about going, is meeting all the pilots that frequent this exchange,, meeting the people who duke it out on here. flying against them, and learning from all of themit's kind of cool to associate faces with names,,, I was allways under the impression that this contest was the big daddy of contests.. i know visalia has more flyers in one category than anywhere.. but what i was refering to is the fact that lots more people from all over would be at the nats...because it's centrally located, more classes are flown. and its for the national title It has appeared to me that the national title hasn't much clout according to some people,, well i don't agree with this... If you go to the nats , you are flying against who ever comes for that title,, If a pilot chooses not to show, and mabe challenge the title, then they don't have much to say about that...seems like to some people the nats is a little below them... I don't think we should let them take away from the importance and fun of competing in the nats, or mabe AMA should use the nats as a sort of stepping stone to USA team selections... I guess i am curious why this isn't mabe a qualifyer? I guess some people have to be dead nuts serious, and only go big or stay home,, or go when it's convienent for them... but It;s like phoenix in febuary,,, what a great contest,, lots of flyin, and for those of us from alittle cooler climate,, a break from winter. after each day pilots dig out thier electic stuff, throw lights on it, and fly untill they feel like it... and the BBQ. you can hear people talking about how they did, good or bad... pilots make this sport happen... all the pilots...Nats pilots, phoenix pilots,,, visalia pilots,, southern pilots.. we are all in the same boat... i think the clicks are everywhere.. and that is natural... but we are all in it for the same thing fun. and competitive soaring I will see you all at the next Nat's... for sure! Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
