Re: [RCSE] Re: DSP issues - Berg Micro Stamp - and stuff

2006-06-06 Thread inventorforhire



There was a batch of bad Berg Micro Stamps produce right after Castle 
bought Berg. After that first batch, they have been just fine.

T

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  In a message dated 6/5/06 4:32:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I've 
had problems with the earlier Berg receivers glitching badly  
ultimately 
  
  I have used the Berg Micro Stamp 4 in my HL 
  models for several without a problem. I recently purchased new models 
  from Castle Creations, and installed one in my new XP 4.5. I flew it in 
  this weekend's IHLGF without a glitch. Probably the worst environment 
  any of us will encounter - 12 transmitter in a very small area. The 
  transmitter is a Vision on channel 37.
  
  An aside - I took the Japanese visitors to the 
  San Diego Aerospace museum this afternoon where I observed a picture from Mars 
  relayed from the Rover. A piece of debris was identified as a shield 
  from the landing module, but I think it was a hand launch model put there by 
  Paul Anderson, Joe Wurts or Phil Barnes.
  
  Don 
  RichmondSan Diego, 
CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com


Re: [RCSE] Re: DSP issues - Berg Micro Stamp - and stuff

2006-06-06 Thread Mike Robinson



I too had a new Castle Creations Berg 4L in my DLG at the IHLGF. For me, 
the biggest test is flying low and close to other flyers when you're at the 
other end of the field. The Berg 4L performed flawlessly. Pretty good for a 4.5 
gram rx.

Interestingly enough, I have an Electron 6 in my other DLG and that was 
glitching when it got tooclose to other people with their radios on.


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  There was a batch of bad Berg Micro Stamps produce right after Castle 
  bought Berg. After that first batch, they have been just fine.
  
  T
  
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In a message dated 6/5/06 4:32:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've 
  had problems with the earlier Berg receivers glitching badly  
  ultimately 

I have used the Berg Micro Stamp 4 in my HL 
models for several without a problem. I recently purchased new models 
from Castle Creations, and installed one in my new XP 4.5. I flew it 
in this weekend's IHLGF without a glitch. Probably the worst 
environment any of us will encounter - 12 transmitter in a very small 
area. The transmitter is a Vision on channel 37.

An aside - I took the Japanese visitors to the 
San Diego Aerospace museum this afternoon where I observed a picture from 
Mars relayed from the Rover. A piece of debris was identified as a 
shield from the landing module, but I think it was a hand launch model put 
there by Paul Anderson, Joe Wurts or Phil Barnes.

Don 
RichmondSan Diego, 
CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com


[RCSE] Re: DSP issues

2006-06-05 Thread Jeff Thompson
I've had problems with the earlier Berg receivers glitching badly  
ultimately causing crashes on the slope; same with the Polk Seeker 6 
synthesized RX (two receivers, two out of control gliders that 
crashed.)  Everyone seems to be rushing to DSP, while I'm lamenting 
Hitec's changing the Super Slim to DSP and the loss of the bulletproof 
555.  Fortunately JR (Sport) is starting to make small negative shift 
receivers (but a 7 channel would be nice) they're as reliable as can 
be.  Apparently ABC  W is quite different than DSP.  The results sure 
are different.


Jeff

Soaring wrote:

SoaringMon, 5 Jun 2006  Volume 1 : Number 7755

In this issue:

Re: Why turn off the IPD filter.


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Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:58:37 -0500
From: David Register [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Why turn off the IPD filter.
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Don't know if I'm the only one with this experience but both Rxs that 
I've used with DSP and other front end signal processing have failed 
miserably in my discus planes. These are the Sombra 7 and the FMA M5V2.


I had (still have) very good response from my standard M5s (no longer 
available) but get lock-outs and swamping with the V2 at contests. Same 
with the Sombra, even after the temperature problem had been addressed. 
They are both retired now.


Not limited to low and slow and coming back. I have several metal roof 
buildings at the field where I fly and both these Rxs run into problem 
within several hundred feet of these structures. My Futaba's, Hitec E6's 
and old M5's go through these regions without any problems but both of 
the other units tend to go crazy, lock out and crash. I suspect that the 
bounce from the metal roof presents a stronger signal than the direct 
path RF and the slight time offset confuses the filtering circuitry.


This is probably an excellent technology but may not be fine-tuned yet 
for some applications?


- Dave R

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Re: [RCSE] Re: DSP issues - Berg Micro Stamp - and stuff

2006-06-05 Thread Hilaunch




In a message dated 6/5/06 4:32:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've had 
  problems with the earlier Berg receivers glitching badly  ultimately 
  

I have used the Berg Micro Stamp 4 in my HL models 
for several without a problem. I recently purchased new models from Castle 
Creations, and installed one in my new XP 4.5. I flew it in this weekend's 
IHLGF without a glitch. Probably the worst environment any of us will 
encounter - 12 transmitter in a very small area. The transmitter is a 
Vision on channel 37.

An aside - I took the Japanese visitors to the San 
Diego Aerospace museum this afternoon where I observed a picture from Mars 
relayed from the Rover. A piece of debris was identified as a shield from 
the landing module, but I think it was a hand launch model put there by Paul 
Anderson, Joe Wurts or Phil Barnes.

Don 
RichmondSan Diego, 
CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com


Re: [RCSE] Re: DSP issues - Berg Micro Stamp - and stuff

2006-06-05 Thread Ben Wilson

Don --

Good to hear about the new Berg stuff being able to stand up to Poway!  
It's true the early, early versions of the Berg 4- and 5-channel 
(pre-Castle) receivers had issues with the DSP, and hence released the 
DSP II, which I can only assume is at least what they are using in the 
new Castle Bergs.


For what it's worth, I fly Berg 5's (pre-Castle stock) in my DLGs, and 
have never had a problem.  Flew my Polecat EZBD to great new heights 
(2000 ft or more) on Sunday (beating Gordy and his Super AVA, of 
course!) using a spare Berg 5 DSPII.  Yeah, I certainly thought Oh man, 
I'm 2500 feet up with a Berg!, but that thing never failed me.  Two 
weeks ago I managed an LSF IV 1-hour flight with the same ship.  This 
Sunday, however, I only managed 45 minutes - which was not the fault of 
the receiver. :)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/5/06 4:32:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I've had problems with the earlier Berg receivers glitching badly 
ultimately 

I have used the Berg Micro Stamp 4 in my HL models for several 
without a problem.  I recently purchased new models from Castle 
Creations, and installed one in my new XP 4.5.  I flew it in this 
weekend's IHLGF without a glitch.  Probably the worst environment any 
of us will encounter - 12 transmitter in a very small area.  The 
transmitter is a Vision on channel 37.
 
Don Richmond

San Diego, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.hilaunch.com


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