[RCSE] Re: Model Aviation
Darwin, Jim, Dave, Gordy and anyone who has contributed to any mag or periodical on a soaring topic: THANK YOU! Having been a newsletter editor for too long and having written monthly for RCSD for about 6 years, putting together a column, even on a topic you really enjoy, is tough work. The hours aren't great and the only pay you get is the occasional comment or feedback from the readers. You guys have done, and continue to do, a great job. That said, I'd love to see more in MA about soaring but that's not where the majority of the readers are going. So be it. The monthly (bi-monthly) soaring columns are great, NATS coverage is very much appreciated and the occasional articles on soaring are a way to keep our side of the hobby in front of the rest of the community. RCSD is one outlet for soaring specific interests. Forums like RCSE and RCGroups are other ways to get information and ideas. But the bottom line is that no one should complain about lack of coverage if they've never written an article for their newsletter or submitted something to RCSD or some other mag. Every one has some knowledge or experience worth sharing. Write it up! I can't tell you how many times someone has sent an e-mail noting a favorite topic they'd like to have covered. In most cases my response was - 'great idea, how about you write it and you can have the column space this month'. Judy Slates was always agreeable to that. Only two folks ever took me up on the offer (Harley Michaelis with an early release on the RDS system and Greg Ciurpita with several articles on lift distribution and circling flight). Gentlemen, start your word processors. This 'problem' goes away if we all share the load a bit. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Model Aviation
I think we would get more coverage if someone would just learn how to hover a DLG with a nuclear powered Battery pack powering a micro processor that would use brain power to transmit what you wanted. 8-) I think the 2 guys doing the column now do a great job. I wish they could both be in the Mag at the same time. Lets face it though. If they ask for help who would step up to the plate. I covered F3J as much as I could on the RCGroups site. I thought everyone would want to know what was happening. I just wait on pins and needles for event coverage. Gordy is pretty fast on this. Jim Bacus another. We are a quiet bunch. Write AMA. Ill be in Toledo during the show and plan on asking why or how do we get more coverage. We have a great bunch of guys some recognition would be good. OK now practice your 3D Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column
If you go to hell - then you have to fly control line speed and nothing else all day - every day. OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Nostalgiaflyer;aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column Regarding soaring and AMA our greater number of entries in most of the recent NATS has not really acknowledged by AMA. RC pattern and Pylon seem to be the sweetheart events. Possibly because they spend a lot more money with the advertisers in Model Aviation. We have always had to do most of the work in our events--even before LSF took over. In defense of Model Aviation and Bob Hunt and control line I have a couple of comments. Unlike soaring where we all fly multiple events the control line events are radically different from one to another and most control line flyers fly only their specific event. Generally speed flyers only fly speed (and the several classes within it), precision acrobatic flyers only fly PA (and the three major classes within it), etc. Therefore coverage is given to each cl discipline. Soaring has always been soaring, that's it, even though we fly different classes and events. Free flight and indoor and treated the same as we are. Remember that LSF is a special interest group and AMA is a political organization. Since I joined AMA in 1955 there have always been complaints about some aspect of the organization but all modelers are much better off with AMA than without it and we should support it and change it from within if necessary. Mike Clancy AMA 1510 LSF 926 V RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column
Of course, CL afficionados would say the same about HLG: throw it, catch it, throw it, catch it, , oops pick it up, throw it, ... Or, perhaps that only shows that I still have a lot to learn when it comes to flying my new Polecat XP 3. Rense Lange [Original Message] From: Howard Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/31/2002 11:54:52 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column If you go to hell - then you have to fly control line speed and nothing else all day - every day. OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Nostalgiaflyer;aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column Regarding soaring and AMA our greater number of entries in most of the recent NATS has not really acknowledged by AMA. RC pattern and Pylon seem to be the sweetheart events. Possibly because they spend a lot more money with the advertisers in Model Aviation. We have always had to do most of the work in our events--even before LSF took over. In defense of Model Aviation and Bob Hunt and control line I have a couple of comments. Unlike soaring where we all fly multiple events the control line events are radically different from one to another and most control line flyers fly only their specific event. Generally speed flyers only fly speed (and the several classes within it), precision acrobatic flyers only fly PA (and the three major classes within it), etc. Therefore coverage is given to each cl discipline. Soaring has always been soaring, that's it, even though we fly different classes and events. Free flight and indoor and treated the same as we are. Remember that LSF is a special interest group and AMA is a political organization. Since I joined AMA in 1955 there have always been complaints about some aspect of the organization but all modelers are much better off with AMA than without it and we should support it and change it from within if necessary. Mike Clancy AMA 1510 LSF 926 V RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. --- Rense Lange --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column
Throw it, catch it - well I'd guess that hell has better thermals than that! I've done both HLG and control line. I'm sure many of us old farts here got started in CL. No two HLG flights are the same. Hard to say that about CL speed. If hell holds in store days full of HLG - I'm ready! Mark -Original Message- From: Rense Lange [mailto:renselange;earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Howard Mark Subject: RE: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column Of course, CL afficionados would say the same about HLG: throw it, catch it, throw it, catch it, , oops pick it up, throw it, ... Or, perhaps that only shows that I still have a lot to learn when it comes to flying my new Polecat XP 3. Rense Lange This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column
In a message dated 10/31/02 1:03:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, CL afficionados would say the same about HLG: throw it, catch it, throw it, catch it, , oops pick it up, throw it, ... Am I missing the word FLY in there somewhere? :-) Bill G.
Re: [RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The abundance of CL in Model Aviation can be explained. Content editor, Bob Hunt, is a hardcore CL guy. The unbalanced space allotments bother me. I have exchanged emails with Bob and he honestly believes that CL is at least as popular as soaring. From the NATS issue, you would guess that CL is 5 times more popular than soaring. In August Bob Hunt sent a letter to the columnists stating that column space and frequency were being changed... snips This _is_ somewhat distressing. But from my perspective, AMA has gotten into an arbitrary and capricious mode that does not seem to represent me or anyone I fly with. I'm continue my AMA membership simply because it is a prerequisite to membership in local clubs and it does generally represent model aviation. The organization that supports my interest is LSF and I'll continue to support it. I'd suggest that folks write Bob Hunt about the unbalanced content, but I suspect that would be an exercise in futility. --Bill Harris LSF#7652 AMA 607983 and embarrassed. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] RE: Model Aviation Soaring Column
Jim, you did a great job on the Nats coverage. There are not too many people who can both write well AND take good pictures. It gave the readers a fresh perspective and put the vacation back in my vacation. :-) The abundance of CL in Model Aviation can be explained. Content editor, Bob Hunt, is a hardcore CL guy. The unbalanced space allotments bother me. I have exchanged emails with Bob and he honestly believes that CL is at least as popular as soaring. From the NATS issue, you would guess that CL is 5 times more popular than soaring. In August Bob Hunt sent a letter to the columnists stating that column space and frequency were being changed to better reflect their relative popularity. The same letter said that my column would stay at 1500 words with half the frequency (changing to every other month). Apparently the data being used is based on which box people checked on their AMA renewal forms. I emailed Bob and asked for a list of the new sizes and frequencies. Here is his response: I do not intend to supply a list of all the topics for which there are columns in Model Aviation or their frequency. That will become apparent as the new alignment is implemented. He went on to add that Dave Garwood would now be writing a slope soaring column on the months opposite mine. I was initially pissed off at Bob Hunt's reply and the change that could be considered a demotion. Then I started to weigh the pros and cons. In the past I had often wished that the deadlines came half as often. It is easier to find 6 good topics a year than 12. There is twice as much time to research each topic. Also, I agree that Garwood's slope stuff would be a good addition to the magazine. Garwood goes to more slope events than I do. On the downside, the readers get less thermal soaring coverage. Inserting timely stuff in the thermal soaring column would be even more difficult. Deadline to delivery lag time was 4 months before the frequency restriction. In the end I decided to sit tight and see how things look after a few months. I AM very interested to see the new space/frequency allotments. If the other columns changed at then same time Soaring did, we should see the results in the next issue. Maybe the frequency of some of those CL events will go to once a year ;-) Mike Garton RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
