RE: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Deutsche Post which owns DHL, Lufthansa, Danzas, etc. is very deep into transportation. Rob -Original Message- From: Michael Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:59 PM To: JMiller Cc: Anker Berg-Sonne; RC Soaring Exchange Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment Yes, the german post office will ship to other countries. JMiller wrote: > Anker, > I feel your pain and auger. Bye the way, in my previous post, I don't > know if DHL will ship to foreign countries, but the service is very good > in the USA. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Yes, the german post office will ship to other countries. JMiller wrote: Anker, I feel your pain and auger. Bye the way, in my previous post, I don't know if DHL will ship to foreign countries, but the service is very good in the USA. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Anker, I feel your pain and auger. Bye the way, in my previous post, I don't know if DHL will ship to foreign countries, but the service is very good in the USA. Jerry Miller Medford, OR Anker Berg-Sonne wrote: Here's our latest UPS horror story. My wife had ordered three boxes of foam wreath cores. Two of them arrived when expected, and the third arrived several days later. Upon opening the box all the cores were broken. It turns out UPS crushed the original box, poured the broken contents into another box, and then proceeded to deliver the (now unblemished exterior) box as if nothing had happened. Geez! Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Hi all, If it's available in your area, DHL is the shipper of choice now a days. And more importantly in most cases they will come to your door for pick-ups at no cost. I sent a large package weighing 53 lbs. for a cost of only $37.00 from OR to Eastern TX. Ground transport in 4 days. You can set up an account and pay by check, cash; CC can only be done through the billing process , for all three ways you must know the weight, and 3 demeitions, pay the driver at pick-up. The driver has no way to do weight or do measurements at your door. They will bill you if you do not have info, so you must trust them. I find they are reliable in that regard. Try them. By the way, that 53 pound package if it would have gone UPS would have cost me $87.00, Fed/Ex was only $63.00. The choice is clear in my mind!! Jerry Miller At home in Medford, OR Recuperating from hernia operation this morning at 8:00AM home by 10:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so pissed at UPS (~$750,000/year) I am attempting to have our company switch to another carrier. Quoting Anker Berg-Sonne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Here's our latest UPS horror story. My wife had ordered three boxes of foam wreath cores. Two of them arrived when expected, and the third arrived several days later. Upon opening the box all the cores were broken. It turns out UPS crushed the original box, poured the broken contents into another box, and then proceeded to deliver the (now unblemished exterior) box as if nothing had happened. Geez! Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
I am so pissed at UPS (~$750,000/year) I am attempting to have our company switch to another carrier. Quoting Anker Berg-Sonne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Here's our latest UPS horror story. My wife had ordered three boxes > of foam wreath cores. Two of them arrived when expected, and the > third arrived several days later. Upon opening the box all the cores > were broken. It turns out UPS crushed the original box, poured the > broken contents into another box, and then proceeded to deliver the > (now unblemished exterior) box as if nothing had happened. > > Geez! > > Anker > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME > turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are > generally NOT in text format > Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Sorry Dan, my error. I see "red" whenever I read "UPS". The postal services between our two countries is pretty good compared to the alternatives. In fact, if the value is less than $50CAN, it gets a free ride to our door. NAFTA ensures that the paperwork going in either direction is similar, so it should be no more difficult to ship something north than it does south. The problem is on our end, as on top of the 7% customs and duties, there is another 7% Goods and Services tax thanks to our wonderful Canadian government, then come thosee "special" charges from the gougers like UPS. Add to this that our customs dept is poorly staffed to accomodate the volume of material crossing into Canada, and it makes for some rather colorful conversation from recipients across the board (from us modelers - to the rather large shipping operation of our GPS products at work). Quoting Dan Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I said... "/_*USPS*_/ is the only way to ship north" > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >UPS is not the only way to ship here, more importnatly UPS should be avoided > at > >all costs! Their pre-brokering premium is the worst of the lot. > > > > > >Quoting Dan Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > >>Phil, > >> > >>USPS is the only way to ship north. The couriers all charge a brokerage > >>fee. It's not a secret fee, they charge what they charge. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >>Winch wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing > proposition. > >>>By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous > >>>"brokerage" fees. > >>> > >>>Phil > >>> > >>>-Original Message- > >>>From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM > >>>To: RC Soaring Exchange > >>>Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment > >>> > >>> > >>>And why is that? > >>>Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way > >>>bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. > >>> > >>>Dan > >>> > >>>George L Meyers wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address > >>>>but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in > >>>>Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send > >>>>international mail. > >>>> > >>>>This might not > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I > >>>>>have a > >>>>>parcel come in. > >>>>>Phil > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > >>>>"subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > >>>>text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based > >>>>email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and > >>>"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > >>>subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with > >>>MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL > >>>are generally NOT in text format > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and > >>"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > >>subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with > MIME > >>turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are > >>generally NOT in text format > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >Simon Van Leeuwen > >PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice > >Radius Systems > >Cogito Ergo Zoom > > > > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME > turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are > generally NOT in text format > Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
I said... "/_*USPS*_/ is the only way to ship north" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UPS is not the only way to ship here, more importnatly UPS should be avoided at all costs! Their pre-brokering premium is the worst of the lot. Quoting Dan Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Phil, USPS is the only way to ship north. The couriers all charge a brokerage fee. It's not a secret fee, they charge what they charge. Dan Winch wrote: Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing proposition. By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous "brokerage" fees. Phil -Original Message- From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM To: RC Soaring Exchange Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment And why is that? Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. Dan George L Meyers wrote: I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send international mail. This might not seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I have a parcel come in. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Here's our latest UPS horror story. My wife had ordered three boxes of foam wreath cores. Two of them arrived when expected, and the third arrived several days later. Upon opening the box all the cores were broken. It turns out UPS crushed the original box, poured the broken contents into another box, and then proceeded to deliver the (now unblemished exterior) box as if nothing had happened. Geez! Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
UPS is not the only way to ship here, more importnatly UPS should be avoided at all costs! Their pre-brokering premium is the worst of the lot. Quoting Dan Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Phil, > > USPS is the only way to ship north. The couriers all charge a brokerage > fee. It's not a secret fee, they charge what they charge. > > Dan > > > Winch wrote: > > >Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing proposition. > >By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous > >"brokerage" fees. > > > >Phil > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM > >To: RC Soaring Exchange > >Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment > > > > > >And why is that? > >Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way > >bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. > > > > Dan > > > >George L Meyers wrote: > > > > > > > >>I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address > >>but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in > >>Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send > >>international mail. > >> > >>This might not > >> > >> > >> > >>>seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I > >>>have a > >>>parcel come in. > >>>Phil > >>> > >>> > >>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > >>"subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > >>text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based > >>email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > >> > >> > >> > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > >subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with > >MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL > >are generally NOT in text format > > > > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME > turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are > generally NOT in text format > Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Phil, USPS is the only way to ship north. The couriers all charge a brokerage fee. It's not a secret fee, they charge what they charge. Dan Winch wrote: Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing proposition. By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous "brokerage" fees. Phil -Original Message- From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM To: RC Soaring Exchange Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment And why is that? Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. Dan George L Meyers wrote: I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send international mail. This might not seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I have a parcel come in. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Oh yeah, all the rules. Address must me in caps, and contents must be listed on the way bill. Once the package crosses the border, tracking no longer works day by day, but it's then only matter of a day or two. The tracking# will let you know that the package has been delivered. Sorry I'm getting steamed about this, but it's infuriating to attempt to spend money at a retailer in the US only to be told they don't ship to Canada "because it's too problematic". It's pure laziness. Refusal to address the label in caps, and a lack of willingness to spend an extra 2 minutes at the post office to fill out a way bill. Other than that, it's exactly the same. If you state the weight, dimensions, and contents accurately, there should never be any issues. When I see people publicly posting about how "problematic" it is to ship to Canada, it means to me that there are now 1 or 2 more people on this list that will take that to heart and be unwilling to ship north in the future. I've been buying hobby stuff from retailers and private people the US for over 5 years and have never had a shipment go awry, not once. Dan Ed Berris wrote: Dan Mailing to Canada is not as easy as you suggest because the Canadian customs or mail service seems to have a strong desire to screw with US posted mail. Some vendors in our hobby simply won't or don't want to ship to Canada because of this. Delays are not uncommon. Tracing a package is nearly impossible once it leaves the US. Packages are returned for minute infractions on Canadian rules. When I ship to Canada I inform my customers that once it leaves my hands I assume no responsibility for the safe arrival of the package. If that is not acceptable to a customer (and I can understand why it might not be) I just won't take the chance. I'd rather not have the business or an unhappy customer. Ed - Original Message - From: "Dan Kitching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RC Soaring Exchange" Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment And why is that? Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. Dan George L Meyers wrote: I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send international mail. This might not seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I have a parcel come in. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Because bureaucratic costs and delays often makes it a losing proposition. By the way UPS/Fedex/DHL are no better as they hit you with outrageous "brokerage" fees. Phil -Original Message- From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 8, 2006 8:45 PM To: RC Soaring Exchange Subject: Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment And why is that? Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. Dan George L Meyers wrote: > I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address > but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in > Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send > international mail. > > This might not > >> seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I >> have a >> parcel come in. >> Phil > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based > email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
And why is that? Put the address on the box, take it to the post office. Fill out the way bill, pay the fee, and say goodbye to it. Dan George L Meyers wrote: I initially thought it was strange that you had USA mailing address but then I remembered that I wanted to mail a package to a friend in Alberta. I found that Canada is not a user friendly place to send international mail. This might not seem like a big thing but I have a USA mailbox which calls me when I have a parcel come in. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
