Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-18 Thread Rick Van Clief
Jim,
Don't remember this.  Which issue was this in?
Thanks.
RVC

Another option is to build the slow charger published in the AMA's Model
Aviation magazine.
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Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-18 Thread Jim Holliman
Rick Van Clief on 12-18-04 12:31 PM wrote:

 Don't remember this.  Which issue was this in?

The Universal Slow Charger (USC) was designed by Bob Kopski, author of the
monthly column Radio Control Electrics in the AMA's magazine Model
Aviation.  Quoting Mr. Kopski from the October 2004 issue (page 130) of MA:

[...] you can get copies of the original article from AMA Liberian Rich
LaGrange at (765) 287-1256, extension 506.  Ask for a copy of Universal
Slow charger on pages 37-46 of the September 2000 issue.  You also need to
get copies of correction information from the October 2000 issue (page 60)
and the November 2000 issue (page 7).  I am unable to supply these copies.

Second, the original article included a detailed parts list describing all
of the components and the suppliers for them.  [The author failed] to
mention that one of the key suppliers had discontinued doing business
approximately two years ago.  But not to worry!

In October 2002 I [Bob Kopski] developed a multipage USC Update,
addressing the latter problem.  It remains available, and you can get one by
sending me an SASE. [Bob Kopski, 25 West End Dr., Lansdale, PA 19446-1927]
To the best of my knowledge, this update covers all necessary information,
in conjunction with the preceding references, to allow you to build a USC,
as many others have done.

I hope this reference to Mr. Kopski's articles and address, which is
published in his column, does not offend he or the AMA as I have placed it
on RCSE without permission.

-- 
Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma
AMA  TULSOAR

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Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-18 Thread Stuart A. Hall
Thanks for the information Jim, I was able to find the article from the 
members only section of the AMA website and have printed the article. 
Fortunately in this case they stopped scanning the magazine at the end 
of 2000 - so this one is definitely there.  A search of the issue 
brought up all 7 pages.

Jim Holliman wrote:
Rick Van Clief on 12-18-04 12:31 PM wrote:

Don't remember this.  Which issue was this in?

The Universal Slow Charger (USC) was designed by Bob Kopski, author of the
monthly column Radio Control Electrics in the AMA's magazine Model
Aviation.  Quoting Mr. Kopski from the October 2004 issue (page 130) of MA:
[...] you can get copies of the original article from AMA Liberian Rich
LaGrange at (765) 287-1256, extension 506.  Ask for a copy of Universal
Slow charger on pages 37-46 of the September 2000 issue.  You also need to
get copies of correction information from the October 2000 issue (page 60)
and the November 2000 issue (page 7).  I am unable to supply these copies.
Second, the original article included a detailed parts list describing all
of the components and the suppliers for them.  [The author failed] to
mention that one of the key suppliers had discontinued doing business
approximately two years ago.  But not to worry!
In October 2002 I [Bob Kopski] developed a multipage USC Update,
addressing the latter problem.  It remains available, and you can get one by
sending me an SASE. [Bob Kopski, 25 West End Dr., Lansdale, PA 19446-1927]
To the best of my knowledge, this update covers all necessary information,
in conjunction with the preceding references, to allow you to build a USC,
as many others have done.
I hope this reference to Mr. Kopski's articles and address, which is
published in his column, does not offend he or the AMA as I have placed it
on RCSE without permission.
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Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-18 Thread Jim Holliman
Russ,
I worked pretty hard a couple of months ago trying to find out just the same
thing.  The folks at Great Planes -- Model Services confirmed what others
had said, it can't be done.  Sorry for the bad news.

Since I really didn't need the extra capacity of the Triton I sold mine and
bought an ACE R/C Digital Dual Vari-Charger at my LHS and a used Sirius
Charge Pro. (By the way, the folks at Sirius told me that any of their
chargers have an unlimited life time warranty, doesn't matter who owns it,
original owner or not.)  One draw back to the DDVC is that it doesn't have a
shut off timer, but other ACE R/C chargers do.  The DDVC goes as low as 5 mA
so I can charge my tiny mosquito class HLG batteries.
http://www.acehobby.com/acehobby/products/electronics/chargers/index.html

Another option is to build the slow charger published in the AMA's Model
Aviation magazine.

-- 
Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma
AMA  TULSOAR

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[RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-17 Thread Russ Light
I have a new NiMH receiver pack and wanted to slow charge the pack for the 
first time using a Triton charger.  The Triton documentation refers to slow 
charging but I can't seem to figure out how to set it up.  I can set the 
charge current to a low value and set the safety timer to a large value but 
it seems the charger will always try for a peak detect and if it gets one 
then stop.   The manual indicates that the safety timer comes into effect 
when 'peak or full charge is not detected'.   Is there a way to ensure peak 
detection will not occur and thus get essentially a constant current 
charger with timer?


Regards,
Russ Light
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Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-17 Thread Doug McLaren
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 09:06:02AM -0800, Russ Light wrote:

| Is there a way to ensure peak detection will not occur and thus get
| essentially a constant current charger with timer?

No, not really.  Peak detection is always on on the Triton.

If it's in NiMH mode, there's a small amount of trickle charge after
the peak is detected, but beyond that there's no place to specify a
constant charge current without detecting a peak.

However, you can tell it how big a peak must be before it's detected,
so I guess in theory you could set that value (in milivolts/cell) as
large as possible, and then it may not ever detect a peak ...

But if you're looking for a constant current charger without peak
detection, really, the Triton is not the right tool.  Certainly, the
hardware is capable of it, but the firmware just doesn't support it.
Other options include using the power from a wal-wart, getting some
sort of adjustable current/adjustable voltage power supply (expensive,
but you may already have one), or getting a cheap charger that doesn't
do peak detection at all.

For the latter option, something like this is ideal --

   http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXL331P=7

as it lets you pick the charge rate, and lets you do 4 packs at once.
And it's cheap!

-- 
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Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?

2004-12-17 Thread Jon Stone
Title: Re: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?






Russ,


There is a setup menu option telling the charger not to peak detect for so

many minutes. I doubt it can be set to 14 hours or so. Maybe.


Jon



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Subject: [RCSE] Tritin Charger - how to slow charge?



 I have a new NiMH receiver pack and wanted to slow charge the pack for the

 first time using a Triton charger. The Triton documentation refers to

slow

 charging but I can't seem to figure out how to set it up. I can set the

 charge current to a low value and set the safety timer to a large value

but

 it seems the charger will always try for a peak detect and if it gets one

 then stop. The manual indicates that the safety timer comes into effect

 when 'peak or full charge is not detected'. Is there a way to ensure

peak

 detection will not occur and thus get essentially a constant current

 charger with timer?