Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Yes, the TA4 is a good unit, but a bit cumbersome for me. I should have been saying the TA3 instead of using McCann or Winchdoc names when I talked about pivoting. T - Original Message - From: "Dan Ahearn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rcse" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds For what it's worth, my turnaround, the McCann A-4 does indeed pivot. It clips onto a tripod with a caribener type hook and hands freely, able to move about all axis. Pretty slick and easy to setup. Dan On 9/28/05, TJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, but it follows the plane as good as any low turnaround out there. It pivots on the bottom plate. I will bring it to the next contest for you to see. It is low to the ground so the line doesn't get caught on it. No one unit is perfect for all uses, but this one really works well for what I fly. The McCann one doesn't pivot, which is why I said it needs to be mounted on a spike with a bearing so it can. I have one mounted on a plate so it can pivot. The ones on the tall stakes are good if there are no downwind launches. Jeff would be more knowledgeable as far as F3J and F3B goes. I would agree with Jeff, if you don't mind an occasional walk, the WinchDoc one is the best one that follows the plane very well and is pre-made. You can do what Phil does and put guy lines out to each side to help keep the line from getting caught. Tom T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rcse" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds > Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. > The > reason, if someone comes off the launch to the side, or snaps on the > launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround > limits > their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's > design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side. > The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or > F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch > better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc > units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get > me > wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the > ground too. > Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But > the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional > > In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the > ground > In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut > by > other F3B fliers. > In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig. > Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent > mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin. > > Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J > if > you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back > to > buy the winchdoc unit.. > > I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all > ESL > winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price. > > > TJB wrote: > >> The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones >> with >> stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall >> stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle. >> Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line >> can't >> get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I >> made >> one of these and absolutely love it. >> >> You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you >> use >> a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line >> rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom >> T&G >> 32 Mount View Dr >> Afton, VA 22920 >> 540 943-3356 >> fax 943-4178 >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> To: mailto:soaring@airage.com>> >> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM >> Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds >> >> > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks >> > for >> > ur help >> > >> > bob >> > >> > >> > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send >> "subscribe"
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Actually the other turnarounds are better for downwind launches... Maybe you should see how we go around the back. You can't with a ground based one. And if you do a conventional launch it isn't too much of a problem if you hit the pedal for 1-2 seconds after the zoom. I have used both turnarounds. I had custom made units before I bought a winchdoc unit. I have four turnarounds. The ESL uses the winch doc unit. We used to use the ground based one.. It burnt the line (from small diameter hub, and from being on the ground and dragging). We had more failures to the line with the ground based one. But I guess you don't remember that. I am done with this discussion. If you plan on doing more than TD don't buy a ground based turnaround. You will buy twice. If you want something that is better by design and more versatile then go with the winchdoc unit. You can use it more ways.. And if you ever learn to really launch good you'll be happier with the winchdoc unit... Ask anyone who knows how to hook off and go around a turnaround to get into the wind. You can become better with a winchdoc unit.. Oh and if you want to keep it ground based then don't put it on a stake. Instead use chain in a Y and keep it on the ground... It won't get tangled on the downwind launch... but it will serve all the other operations well. My braided, and my mono go on a winchdoc and winchdoc style (predated the winchdoc) turnaround. TJB wrote: Sorry, but it follows the plane as good as any low turnaround out there. It pivots on the bottom plate. I will bring it to the next contest for you to see. It is low to the ground so the line doesn't get caught on it. No one unit is perfect for all uses, but this one really works well for what I fly. The McCann one doesn't pivot, which is why I said it needs to be mounted on a spike with a bearing so it can. I have one mounted on a plate so it can pivot. The ones on the tall stakes are good if there are no downwind launches. Jeff would be more knowledgeable as far as F3J and F3B goes. I would agree with Jeff, if you don't mind an occasional walk, the WinchDoc one is the best one that follows the plane very well and is pre-made. You can do what Phil does and put guy lines out to each side to help keep the line from getting caught. Tom T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rcse" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. The reason, if someone comes off the launch to the side, or snaps on the launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround limits their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side. The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get me wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the ground too. Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the ground In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut by other F3B fliers. In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig. Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin. Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J if you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back to buy the winchdoc unit.. I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all ESL winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price. TJB wrote: The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones with stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle. Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line can't get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I made one of these and absolutely love it. You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <ma
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
For what it's worth, my turnaround, the McCann A-4 does indeed pivot. It clips onto a tripod with a caribener type hook and hands freely, able to move about all axis. Pretty slick and easy to setup. Dan On 9/28/05, TJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, but it follows the plane as good as any low turnaround out there. It > pivots on the bottom plate. > I will bring it to the next contest for you to see. It is low to the ground > so the line doesn't get caught on it. No one unit is perfect for all uses, > but this one really works well for what I fly. > The McCann one doesn't pivot, which is why I said it needs to be mounted on > a spike with a bearing so it can. I have one mounted on a plate so it can > pivot. The ones on the tall stakes are good if there are no downwind > launches. > > Jeff would be more knowledgeable as far as F3J and F3B goes. I would agree > with Jeff, if you don't mind an occasional walk, the WinchDoc one is the > best one that follows the plane very well and is pre-made. You can do what > Phil does and put guy lines out to each side to help keep the line from > getting caught. > > Tom > > T&G > 32 Mount View Dr > Afton, VA 22920 > > 540 943-3356 > fax 943-4178 > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "rcse" > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds > > > > Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. The > > reason, if someone comes off the launch to the side, or snaps on the > > launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround limits > > their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's > > design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side. > > The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or > > F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch > > better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc > > units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get me > > wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the > > ground too. > > Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But > > the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional > > > > In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the > > ground > > In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut by > > other F3B fliers. > > In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig. > > Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent > > mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin. > > > > Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J if > > you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back to > > buy the winchdoc unit.. > > > > I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all ESL > > winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price. > > > > > > TJB wrote: > > > >> The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones with > >> stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall > >> stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle. > >> Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line can't > >> get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I made > >> one of these and absolutely love it. > >> > >> You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use > >> a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line > >> rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom > >> T&G > >> 32 Mount View Dr > >> Afton, VA 22920 > >> 540 943-3356 > >> fax 943-4178 > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >> To: mailto:soaring@airage.com>> > >> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM > >> Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds > >> > >> > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for > >> > ur help > >> > > >> > bob > >> > > >> > > >> > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > >> "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requ
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Sorry, but it follows the plane as good as any low turnaround out there. It pivots on the bottom plate. I will bring it to the next contest for you to see. It is low to the ground so the line doesn't get caught on it. No one unit is perfect for all uses, but this one really works well for what I fly. The McCann one doesn't pivot, which is why I said it needs to be mounted on a spike with a bearing so it can. I have one mounted on a plate so it can pivot. The ones on the tall stakes are good if there are no downwind launches. Jeff would be more knowledgeable as far as F3J and F3B goes. I would agree with Jeff, if you don't mind an occasional walk, the WinchDoc one is the best one that follows the plane very well and is pre-made. You can do what Phil does and put guy lines out to each side to help keep the line from getting caught. Tom T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rcse" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. The reason, if someone comes off the launch to the side, or snaps on the launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround limits their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side. The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get me wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the ground too. Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the ground In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut by other F3B fliers. In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig. Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin. Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J if you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back to buy the winchdoc unit.. I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all ESL winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price. TJB wrote: The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones with stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle. Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line can't get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I made one of these and absolutely love it. You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: mailto:soaring@airage.com>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for > ur help > > bob > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com <mailto:soaring-request@airage.com>. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
When I first picked up my A-4 turnaround as part of my McCann winch kit I was concerned about the ability to pull the chute through the turn around. Then I figured out all I need to do is take off the chute prior to the last launch. Problem solved All I can say it it works like a hose! I am a very satisfied customer! Dan in Dallas ... On 9/28/05, Tim McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Response to a few items: > > Only Tim McCann makes the Tim McCann turnaround. All my products are > manufactured in-house by me. > > There are many occasions where the ability to pull the chute quickly through > the turnaround has proven useful including lightning storm, illness/injury, > herd of sheep moving across field, herd of cows moving across field, herd of > soccer players moving across field, mad dog, mean bull, bee swarm, farm > machine/mowers, ATVs, horse riders, landing aircraft, bandits, irate > landowner, the fuzz and sometimes it saves a walk. I've set a towline across > a country road knowing I could stomp on the winch and clear it quickly for > traffic. > > Lines tend to twist together with elevated turnarounds but I've had a > turnaround with a large diameter narrow pulley mounted on an elevated swivel > (TA2 replaced by TA4) for years. > > In my opinion the number one turnaround design consideration is anti > fouling. Pulleys and mounting hardware should be free of anything that could > snag the line and have the ability to clear a load of towline dumped on top > of or behind. Rollers should have low mass and be made of metal so they > won't degrade in sunlight. > > Everyone has an opinion about the best turnaround, it depends on your > application. If you only fly contests at a club field your needs are > different than LSF tasking where you're likely to encounter some weird > situations. You should buy them all just in case:-) > > Tim McCann LSF V #79 > Harrison, AR > AMA Contest Director - Leader Member > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.superskeg.com > Injection Molded Landing Skids and Skegs > Winches, Winch Kits, Turnarounds > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Response to a few items: Only Tim McCann makes the Tim McCann turnaround. All my products are manufactured in-house by me. There are many occasions where the ability to pull the chute quickly through the turnaround has proven useful including lightning storm, illness/injury, herd of sheep moving across field, herd of cows moving across field, herd of soccer players moving across field, mad dog, mean bull, bee swarm, farm machine/mowers, ATVs, horse riders, landing aircraft, bandits, irate landowner, the fuzz and sometimes it saves a walk. I've set a towline across a country road knowing I could stomp on the winch and clear it quickly for traffic. Lines tend to twist together with elevated turnarounds but I've had a turnaround with a large diameter narrow pulley mounted on an elevated swivel (TA2 replaced by TA4) for years. In my opinion the number one turnaround design consideration is anti fouling. Pulleys and mounting hardware should be free of anything that could snag the line and have the ability to clear a load of towline dumped on top of or behind. Rollers should have low mass and be made of metal so they won't degrade in sunlight. Everyone has an opinion about the best turnaround, it depends on your application. If you only fly contests at a club field your needs are different than LSF tasking where you're likely to encounter some weird situations. You should buy them all just in case:-) Tim McCann LSF V #79 Harrison, AR AMA Contest Director - Leader Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.superskeg.com Injection Molded Landing Skids and Skegs Winches, Winch Kits, Turnarounds RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. The reason, if someone comes off the launch to the side, or snaps on the launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround limits their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side. The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get me wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the ground too. Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the ground In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut by other F3B fliers. In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig. Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin. Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J if you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back to buy the winchdoc unit.. I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all ESL winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price. TJB wrote: The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones with stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle. Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line can't get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I made one of these and absolutely love it. You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: mailto:soaring@airage.com>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for > ur help > > bob > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com <mailto:soaring-request@airage.com>. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones with stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle. Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line can't get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I made one of these and absolutely love it. You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom T&G32 Mount View DrAfton, VA 22920 540 943-3356fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <soaring@airage.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for > ur help> > bob> > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format>
RE: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
WinchDoc, Are you still able to build complete winch setups? I would like to buy one of yours. Several people at our club have them and they are wonderful. Perhaps you have a new or nearly new one for sale? Best Regards, --Jim Laurel Seattle Soaring Society From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:33 PM To: Bob Crane; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds I have a few left in stock, they are $75 each shipped. I just sent a batch to Tom Copp (Mr. F3X.com) and he will have them for sale at Visalia. Come and Get 'em!!! (free plug for ya TC) These pulleys work well with braided line or monofilament, as they have a larger diameter sheave than other pulleys. This means the mono dosen't have to bend around such a small radius, and the bearing RPM is lower for any given line speed. The only downside is that you can't pull the chute thru the pulley at the end of the day. If you absolutely HAVE to be able to pull the chute thru your turnaround, Tim Mcann's pulley will allow this. I just never saw it as a big requirement, as you have to go up there and get the pulley at the end of the day anyway, and clanging the chute thru the turnaround is a good way to bugger the pulley, and over stress the chute. IMHO, the larger diameter far outweighs the chute clearance thing. WinchDoc > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for > ur help > > bob
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
I have a few left in stock, they are $75 each shipped. I just sent a batch to Tom Copp (Mr. F3X.com) and he will have them for sale at Visalia. Come and Get 'em!!! (free plug for ya TC) These pulleys work well with braided line or monofilament, as they have a larger diameter sheave than other pulleys. This means the mono dosen't have to bend around such a small radius, and the bearing RPM is lower for any given line speed. The only downside is that you can't pull the chute thru the pulley at the end of the day. If you absolutely HAVE to be able to pull the chute thru your turnaround, Tim Mcann's pulley will allow this. I just never saw it as a big requirement, as you have to go up there and get the pulley at the end of the day anyway, and clanging the chute thru the turnaround is a good way to bugger the pulley, and over stress the chute. IMHO, the larger diameter far outweighs the chute clearance thing. WinchDoc > what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for > ur help > > bob
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Walt Dimmick also has a turnaround called the “Ultimate Turnaround” and it is one of the best I’ve ever used. He’s in the northwest and his business is called IFR or IRF Machine…sorry….can’t tell you more. He also makes the wonderful super duty RDS components. BCNU Bruce Hobbs -Original Message- From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:43 AM To: Bob Crane; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds Tim McCann: http://www.superskeg.com/ta3.html Dan Bob Crane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for ur help bob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Tim McCann: http://www.superskeg.com/ta3.html DanBob Crane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for ur helpbobRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Probably the winch doc... Very nice. It will work F3B, US TD, F3J... you can't ask for more. Ask him for a killer stake... :-) Bob Crane wrote: what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for ur help bob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for ur help bob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
