RE: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
I went through this with my 10x. I did manage to replace it myself, but I am in the business, and a professional risk taker. A joke :-} I would not recommend replacing the battery yourself, in fact Horizon is very reluctant to sell one to you for your own installation. Why? Several reasons. It is hard soldered in, at least on the 10X. If you do not remove it carefully you will damage the radio permanently. If you do not use a grounded professional grade soldering iron you run the same risk of zapping your radio innards. Moreover, the replacement cell is a generic type which you have to modify by using a dremel tool to relieve some metal on the solder tabs. Is it worth the risk to do it yourself? I do usually send radios back for a bi yearly check up, If your radio is more than three years old, take my advice and have it gone over and have the Lithium cell replaced by the very competent Horizon tech dept. and protect your warranty. "too soon old, and too late smart" John Endless Mountain Models [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/rand.htm -Original Message- From: brent douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question I just got my JR back from Horizon, and they changed that as part of their standard procedure. All my settings were intact, so I'm betting that if you have battery power, you can change that out / have it done. Horizon had my (sorry-*ss) radio back to me inside of 2 weeks, for not much money: I replaced my elevator/aileron stick and a switch, about 70 bucks plus shipping. Good luck, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
I just got my JR back from Horizon, and they changed that as part of their standard procedure. All my settings were intact, so I'm betting that if you have battery power, you can change that out / have it done. Horizon had my (sorry-*ss) radio back to me inside of 2 weeks, for not much money: I replaced my elevator/aileron stick and a switch, about 70 bucks plus shipping. Good luck, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
I believe if you leave the TX battery connected you can change the lithium without fear of losing any settings. I think I saw that in the manual. Dennis - Original Message - From: "Robert (Bob) P. Andris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question Andrew, What you say is always a good idea. However, it can be done by the consumer with some care. I recently got the "L" on one of my 8103s. The change over probably made it 'batteryless' for 10 to 15 min. Lo, and behold, the settings were still there. Maybe there is a big capacitor in there somewhere that will hold the voltage for a small period of time. Bob > >Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:29:01 -0500 >From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Karl Miller wrote: >> I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens >> when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory >> and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear >> when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium >> battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. > >AFAIK, it has to be unlocked by a tech :( Hence changing the battery >yourself requires extreme care to avoid loss of power during the >process. > >-- >Andrew E. Mileski >Ottawa, Canada >http://isoar.ca/ -- Robert P. Andris 12155 Terrence Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 USA (408) 252-5469 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF 004, AMA 5055 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIM E turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Andrew, What you say is always a good idea. However, it can be done by the consumer with some care. I recently got the "L" on one of my 8103s. The change over probably made it 'batteryless' for 10 to 15 min. Lo, and behold, the settings were still there. Maybe there is a big capacitor in there somewhere that will hold the voltage for a small period of time. Bob Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:29:01 -0500 From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karl Miller wrote: I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. AFAIK, it has to be unlocked by a tech :( Hence changing the battery yourself requires extreme care to avoid loss of power during the process. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca/ -- Robert P. Andris 12155 Terrence Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 USA (408) 252-5469 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF 004, AMA 5055 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Why worry about what will happen ? Just send it back to Horizion Hobbies and get a new Lith battery installed--and ask them to check the xmtr over while they have it. I sent my 388 back last year and got excellent service, reasonable prices and about a 2-3 week turnaround. No need to push your luck. Jim - Original Message - From: "Steve Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Karl Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question > Karl, > > I would be guessing, but even though a low battery condition exists on your > Lithium battery it should be at least a week possibly a month before it was > low enough to start to lose memory. > > Steve > > At 10:37 PM 3/30/2003 -0600, Karl Miller wrote: > >I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens > >when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory > >and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear > >when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium > >battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. > > > >Has anyone experienced what really happens and how long after the flashing L > >appears does the lithium battery last until it completely dies? Just > >wondering in case this happens at an out of town contest if it would still > >be safe to fly. > > > >Thanks for any info, > > > >Karl Miller > > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > >that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format > >with MIME turned off. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Karl, I would be guessing, but even though a low battery condition exists on your Lithium battery it should be at least a week possibly a month before it was low enough to start to lose memory. Steve At 10:37 PM 3/30/2003 -0600, Karl Miller wrote: I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what happens when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model memory and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will appear when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function. Has anyone experienced what really happens and how long after the flashing L appears does the lithium battery last until it completely dies? Just wondering in case this happens at an out of town contest if it would still be safe to fly. Thanks for any info, Karl Miller RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
