RE: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
Thanks for all the ideas. I pulled out the monokote iron and a dirty covering sock, and about 15 minutes later all the remaining covering was in little, burnt balls on the floor. I just kept going back and forth over the covering on fairly high heat; it would heat up, roll up, and fall off - very slick. You all saved me hours with an Exacto - very much appreciated. Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
Hi All Removing old monokote/solarfilm/ultracoat colo(u)r from balsa is fairly easy. Using a covering iron, iron some paper kitchen towel down on to the mess and remove after a few seconds while still warm - the coloured adhesive comes away easily with the tissue and can be discarded. Applying any solvents initially just makes the mess a lot harder to clean. If the kitchen roll doesn't remove it all, then that's the time to resort to the alcohol rub :-)) Hope this helps Cheers Neil PS Failng that, a very coarse wirebrush fitted to your electric drill will remove it rapidly :-)) ___ Neil D. Gillies Tel: +44 (0)1383-823489 iGull Technologies Mobile: +44 (0)771-4330793 11 River View [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dalgety Bay, Fife http://www.igull.co.uk Scotland KY11 9YE http://www.sea-gull.demon.co.uk RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
I spent a little bit of time giving my impressions of the process of getting monokote off of built up balsa structures to Charlie Waller, who was wanting to strip the brown metallic monokote off of his Oly II to recover in transparent. I thought everyone might be able to relate to parts of this. Ed Jett - Original Message - From: "Ed Jett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Francis Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Aquila Grande Charlie, every time I have tried to get Monokote off to recover it has been a huge PITA. That's why I am trying to salvage as much of the Monokote that is on the AG as I can and do just the minimum to it that I can to put "my brand" on it. What I have done in the past (and I really haven't heard of anyone having better success with a "secret" technique) is: 1) Carefully peel as much off as you can trying your best not to let it tear into a lot of pieces. On the top and bottom of the wing, I would try to cut the film spanwise about a half inch or so behind the spar or spoiler structure, just far enough to give me something to grab onto and carefully peel it from there forward and from there to the trailing edge. It will stick and try to tear. No, it will tear. But if it does try to work the tear back toward the other edge of the tear, hopefully leaving some overhanging material to pull back the other way. If you are lucky, it'll all come off. You won't be that lucky. 2) After you get as much off with the careful-as-possible peeling technique as you can, go back an try to work any small tears off in the opposite direction that you were working from in (1). You will get more off, but not all of it. 3) Get the tweezers and Xacto out and carefully worry the remaining small bits off as best you can. You won't get it all. You will find spots where the adhesive has separated from the film and stuck to the wood. If you haven't had a cuss fit yet, you probably will at this point. 4) You can try using some monokote and other film (use small scraps) and sticking the new film to the old adhesive and sometimes it will lift when you pull up the scrap that you ironed to it. All of it won't. 5) Now, you begin to think thoughts such as "What the heck was I thinking?!!!" and "That metallic brown Monokote looked pretty good and it was unique; I've never seen another one like it." 6) Sometimes I have managed to get some of the adhesive to come loose by scraping with the edge of a knife/xacto blade. 7) You will begin to think about finding some transparent brown covering so that the areas, that you missed won't show so badly. You check and nobody makes a transparent brown. 8) Try getting the balance off with judicious use of suitable solvent. Acetone or MEK. Some of it will soak into the wood and stain it. Do this as a last resort because you can't get the stains out. 9) It's finally off. You will now swear that you'll never do this again. It is easier to build a new plane. 10) Your work area looks like a bomb went off in it due to all the little bits of brown monokote all over the place. 11) Recover, in your choice of transparent Monokote. Let me know if your experience is better. If you find that "secret" technique, please let me in on it. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
doug: It has been some time but if I remember right I solved this by doing the following. Take a new piece of monokoat and place it over the color splotch left behind. Heat it with an iron until it sticks. Then pull it off. It will take the old color off with it. Do it to a small area at a time. Good Luck!! Bruce Lewis At 02:31 PM 4/19/2005 -0400, Douglas, Brent wrote: OK, this was a mess... I'm uncovering a rudder, and the monokote is seperating from its color - eg, the clear layer comes off, but the color is stuck. It's almost impossible to get off with a blade, is there another technique? My next step usually involves a sanding bar to loosen it up, but if you've got a better way, I'm open. Thanks, B RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
Guys, I have found that by taking a new scrap of Ultracote and ironing it over the area I want to remove the color from that usually the color will stick to the Ultracote and come right off the wood. The trick is to remove the scrap while it is still warm and to peel it back over itself when pulling it off. Might give it a try, a lot less smelly and messy and safer than Acetone. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS > > From: Erica and or Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/04/19 Tue PM 05:20:05 EDT > CC: Soaring > Subject: Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal > > Hey now, > For me the heat gun works best. Heat up the money-cote and peel it > back like you would masking tape. If it's ultra cote this'll work all by > it self, if it's mono on the other hand no matter what, you'll have to do > some sanding. For some odd reason monokote has the colour and adhesive as > more or less one layer whereas ultracote has some seperation between them. > Good luck. > RobII > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Erica Frank & Rob CarterII > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Everybody understands Mickey mouse. > Few understand Herman Hesse. > Hardly anyone understands Albert Einstein. > And nobody understands Emperor Norten" > -Malaclypse the younger- > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
Hey now, For me the heat gun works best. Heat up the money-cote and peel it back like you would masking tape. If it's ultra cote this'll work all by it self, if it's mono on the other hand no matter what, you'll have to do some sanding. For some odd reason monokote has the colour and adhesive as more or less one layer whereas ultracote has some seperation between them. Good luck. RobII ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Erica Frank & Rob CarterII [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Everybody understands Mickey mouse. Few understand Herman Hesse. Hardly anyone understands Albert Einstein. And nobody understands Emperor Norten" -Malaclypse the younger- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal
flourescent monokote / ultracoat removalBrent Put on some gloves get in a well ventilated area and get out the Acetone. Use it liberally and you will be able to pull almost all the color. At the most there will be a light haze left that will not show through the new covering. Be sure to check all glue joints before recovering. Especially if the part was built with CA (Acetone can dissolve CA) Hope this helps Maurice - Original Message - From: Douglas, Brent To: Soaring Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: [RCSE] flourescent monokote / ultracoat removal OK, this was a mess... I'm uncovering a rudder, and the monokote is seperating from its color - eg, the clear layer comes off, but the color is stuck. It's almost impossible to get off with a blade, is there another technique? My next step usually involves a sanding bar to loosen it up, but if you've got a better way, I'm open. Thanks, B RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
