Re: Slowing simulation down?

[Pingo van der Brinkloev]

You could cheat.. with high framerate/sec. 3D Slowmotion :-P

Cheers!

On 09/09/2013, at 10.09, Morten Bartholdy  wrote:

> I am making thin ribbons hanging from a hot air lantern , which are supposed 
> to be flowing gently and poetically in the air. I am using Syflex (not the 
> ICE version) which is fast and reliable. However, the motion is too fast, so 
> I have tried caching the deformed geometry, loading it back as a clip in the 
> AnimationMixer which I then scale to make it slow down. It does slow down, 
> but it seems it does not interpolate cached point positions properly, 
> creating jittery motion.
> 
> I guess I am not doing this right, but the docs say it is possible to 
> timewarp cached simulation, so I guess there is a way to do this - are there 
> any of you simulation TD's that can point me in the right direction?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Morten
> 
> 

RE: Softimage Rental?

[Matt Lind]

Well, if they want to generate revenue they’re not reading the situation very 
well.

To use an analogy, they’re running a lemonade stand and are realizing there 
aren’t as many customers when summer ends.  However, instead of reducing prices 
to encourage more customers to stop by for a drink, they’re jacking the price 
up to recoup the voids from lesser traffic.

If Autodesk wants more revenue they should develop something appropriate for 
the times, perhaps something other than lemonade.

Matt




From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of pete...@skynet.be
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:48 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?

This does not come out of a need from Autodesk (or Adobe or any other vendor) 
to accommodate your activities – it comes out of a need from them to generate 
revenue.
Surely they can see the number of new licenses declining – so perhaps rentals 
can compensate somewhat?

Next? licenses bundled with hardware or turnkey solutions – or 
selling/licensing parts of software,...



From: Angus Davidson
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage Rental?

Apart from the glaring omission of SI from that list the things that worries me 
in the FAQ is that rental options dont have previous version rights. Unless I 
have read that incorrectly your SOL if your client needs you to work on a older 
version.

One wonders how much if any thought has gone into this at all.


From: Rob Wuijster [r...@casema.nl]
Sent: 09 September 2013 05:38 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?
not seeing Softimage on that list


Rob



\/-\/\/
On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
So are we going to be getting a rental option?

http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices



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Re: Softimage Rental?

[Miquel Campos]

Other thing that I was wondering if you take a annual rental. Do you pay
all at once? Or is break it down in month like Adobe, for a year commitment?






Miquel Campos
www.miquelTD.com



2013/9/9 Fabrice Altman 

>  Smaller upfront cost. In case of (humm) Maya, you pay $1840/year rental,
> instead of $3675 + yearly subs.
>
> AD are following Adobe like a shadow…
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Morris
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 17:24
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage Rental?
>
> ** **
>
> Those prices have to be a joke surely. Their quarterly prices are the same
> as my yearly subs. How exactly is that going to encourage people to rent?
> Can only see it being any kind of value for a short term job (couple of
> weeks where you need a certain software for compatibility).
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On 9 September 2013 17:05, Miquel Campos  wrote:*
> ***
>
> just for fun lets compare https://creative.adobe.com/plans?plan=offers
>
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
> 
>
> Miquel Campos
> www.miquelTD.com
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> 2013/9/9 Miquel Campos 
>
> I love the super saving (In Maya for example)   for 3 month contract you
> only save 10$ .  
>
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
> 
>
> Miquel Campos
> www.miquelTD.com
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> 2013/9/9 Jeremy Smith 
>
> Yeah.. where is Softimage on that list?  I hope we won’t have to hire the
> Suite just to get access to Soft…  Come on Autodesk!
>
>  
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sofronis
> Efstathiou
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:51
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>
>  
>
> Ahhh – you mean individually – arse…..
>
>  
>
> Sofronis Efstathiou
>
> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
>
> Computer Animation Academic Group
>
> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>
>
> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>
>  
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>
>  
>
> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>
>
> Student Work: 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>
>  
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>
>  
>
> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>
> with wide scientific and creative applications
>
>  
>
> *From:* Sofronis Efstathiou
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:50
> *To:* 'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com'; 'r...@casema.nl'
> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>
>  
>
> Doesn’t it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite – Premium/Ultimate -
> which is $425/525 Monthly?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Sofronis Efstathiou
>
> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
>
> Computer Animation Academic Group
>
> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>
>
> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>
>  
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>
>  
>
> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>
>
> Student Work: 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>
>  
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>
>  
>
> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>
> with wide scientific and creative applications
>
>  
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Nicolas
> Esposito
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:44
> *To:* r...@casema.nl; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage Rental?
>
>  
>
> Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in 

Re: Softimage Rental?

[peter_b]

This does not come out of a need from Autodesk (or Adobe or any other vendor) 
to accommodate your activities – it comes out of a need from them to generate 
revenue. 
Surely they can see the number of new licenses declining – so perhaps rentals 
can compensate somewhat?

Next? licenses bundled with hardware or turnkey solutions – or 
selling/licensing parts of software,... 



From: Angus Davidson 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: RE: Softimage Rental?

Apart from the glaring omission of SI from that list the things that worries me 
in the FAQ is that rental options dont have previous version rights. Unless I 
have read that incorrectly your SOL if your client needs you to work on a older 
version. 

One wonders how much if any thought has gone into this at all.




From: Rob Wuijster [r...@casema.nl]
Sent: 09 September 2013 05:38 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?


not seeing Softimage on that list

Rob

\/-\/\/On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:

  So are we going to be getting a rental option? 

  http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices 



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Re: Softimage Rental?

[Daniel Brassard]

$1840 for a yearly rental of and individual license of Maya or 3DMax.

I'll stay on subscription, thank you!


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Angus Davidson
>  wrote:
> >
> > Apart from the glaring omission of SI from that list the things that
> worries me in the FAQ is that rental options dont have previous version
> rights. Unless I have read that incorrectly your SOL if your client needs
> you to work on a older version.
> >
> > One wonders how much if any thought has gone into this at all.
>
> Presently, that's not technical possible anyway, as the older builds
> cannot deal with the new kind of licensing implementation.  Only 2014
> SP1 and up can.
>

Re: uv broken on export

[Chris Concepcion]

Hi Gerbrand

Usually I get this problem from softimage to maya...It totally screws my
UV's in maya.
But from softimage to Zbrush I use OBJ. Also when projecting are you using
the "PROJECT ALL" in the subtool menu cause this one always works for me in
the newest version of Zbrush.
I do not know the technique you are using to grab the detail so will be
good to know that. Cause that is where it could break.
Also after Zbrush I guess you are going back to softimage right ? Cause
that one should work fine.
Let us know how you go.

Chris C.

nanoconstrukt.com




On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Gerbrand Nel  wrote:

> Hey Guys and Girls.
> I've done a search on broken uv's in the archive, and it seems like I'm
> not the only one having this problem.
> No solution though  :(
> The problem is as follows:
> I modelled an elephant in zbrush.
> Imported the highress mesh into soft and re-modelled with proper topology
> and uv's.
> As soon as I export the model to go and grab the detail in zbrush, The uvs
> on the one side of the model breaks.
> Each face in a uv island is now separated into each own island.
> Most faces are flipped, but the uv layout looks the same.
> Anyone seen this and found a fix?
> Thanks
> Gerbrand
>



-- 
Chris Concepcion

nanoconstrukt.com

Re: Softimage Rental?

[Byron Nash]

In contrast, it seems Adobe is trying harder to innovate than AD. If AD is
following, let's hope they start following in that regard as well.

$0.02


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Angus Davidson wrote:

>  Apart from the glaring omission of SI from that list the things that
> worries me in the FAQ is that rental options dont have previous version
> rights. Unless I have read that incorrectly your SOL if your client needs
> you to work on a older version.
>
>  One wonders how much if any thought has gone into this at all.
>
>   --
> *From:* Rob Wuijster [r...@casema.nl]
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 05:38 PM
>
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage Rental?
>
>   not seeing Softimage on that list
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
>
> On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
> So are we going to be getting a rental option?
>
> http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices
>
>
>
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Re: Would you like to recover your scene?

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

if you had ascii you could delete part of the scene file until it
loads.. right now it's impossible to do that.
when "merge scene" avoid the crash, the problem is usually loading the
information (cameras, modes, etc) for the viewports or some other view
in the layout that saves extra information in the scene.  it shouldn't
happen, but it's been known the happen, especially with real time
shader modes I think. Saving normally the scene after merge is fine.

there is a Scene Debugging tab in the user preferences with options
that may help debugging more difficult crashes

look especially at Load Recovery Journal File

http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2014/en_us/index.html?url=files/userprefs519.htm,topicNumber=d30e804537,hash=WSC52E97AF964D6E4A85D54D15483CB299-0021

also
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=13487723&linkID=12544120


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Guillaume Laforge
 wrote:
> Hi Raph,
>
> We all agree that ASCII file editing (like with Maya .ma) would be very
> useful.
>
> My point was just about the crash issue. Having working with the source code
> of Softimage (even if I was not a persistence specialist), I can imagine how
> hard it would be to debug a crash in an ASCII scene file. By hard, I mean,
> from a production point of view. Of course people are free to spend
> days/weeks/months trying to debug such problem :).
>
>

Re: Softimage Rental?

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Angus Davidson
 wrote:
>
> Apart from the glaring omission of SI from that list the things that worries 
> me in the FAQ is that rental options dont have previous version rights. 
> Unless I have read that incorrectly your SOL if your client needs you to work 
> on a older version.
>
> One wonders how much if any thought has gone into this at all.

Presently, that's not technical possible anyway, as the older builds
cannot deal with the new kind of licensing implementation.  Only 2014
SP1 and up can.

Re: Softimage Rental?

[Miquel Campos]

I love the super saving (In Maya for example)   for 3 month contract you
only save 10$ .




Miquel Campos
www.miquelTD.com



2013/9/9 Jeremy Smith 

>  Yeah.. where is Softimage on that list?  I hope we won’t have to hire
> the Suite just to get access to Soft…  Come on Autodesk!
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sofronis
> Efstathiou
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:51
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>
> ** **
>
> Ahhh – you mean individually – arse…..
>
> ** **
>
> Sofronis Efstathiou
>
> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
>
> Computer Animation Academic Group
>
> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>
>
> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>
> ** **
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>
> ** **
>
> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>
>
> Student Work: 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>
> ** **
>
> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>
> with wide scientific and creative applications
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Sofronis Efstathiou
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:50
> *To:* 'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com'; 'r...@casema.nl'
> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>
> ** **
>
> Doesn’t it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite – Premium/Ultimate -
> which is $425/525 Monthly?
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Sofronis Efstathiou
>
> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
>
> Computer Animation Academic Group
>
> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>
>
> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>
> ** **
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>
> ** **
>
> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>
>
> Student Work: 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
> 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description:
> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>
> ** **
>
> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>
> with wide scientific and creative applications
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Nicolas
> Esposito
> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:44
> *To:* r...@casema.nl; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage Rental?
>
> ** **
>
> Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot that
> they acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
>
> Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software
>
> ** **
>
> Anyway a rental option would be nice
>
> ** **
>
> 2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster 
>
> not seeing Softimage on that list
>
> ** **
>
> Rob
>
> ** **
>
> \/-\/\/
>
>  On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
>  So are we going to be getting a rental option?
>
> http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices 
>
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RE: Softimage Rental?

[Sofronis Efstathiou]

Ahhh - you mean individually - arse.

Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

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Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching
with wide scientific and creative applications

From: Sofronis Efstathiou
Sent: 09 September 2013 16:50
To: 'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com'; 'r...@casema.nl'
Subject: RE: Softimage Rental?


Doesn't it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite - Premium/Ultimate - 
which is $425/525 Monthly?


Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

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[cid:image003.jpg@01CEAD7C.C6D4D530]

Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching
with wide scientific and creative applications

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 On Behalf Of Nicolas Esposito
Sent: 09 September 2013 16:44
To: r...@casema.nl; 
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?

Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot that they 
acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software

Anyway a rental option would be nice

2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster mailto:r...@casema.nl>>
not seeing Softimage on that list



Rob



\/-\/\/
On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
So are we going to be getting a rental option?

http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices

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RE: Softimage Rental?

[Jeremy Smith]

Yeah.. where is Softimage on that list?  I hope we won't have to hire the Suite 
just to get access to Soft...  Come on Autodesk!

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sofronis 
Efstathiou
Sent: 09 September 2013 16:51
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage Rental?

Ahhh - you mean individually - arse.

Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk

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From: Sofronis Efstathiou
Sent: 09 September 2013 16:50
To: 'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com'; 'r...@casema.nl'
Subject: RE: Softimage Rental?


Doesn't it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite - Premium/Ultimate - 
which is $425/525 Monthly?


Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

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with wide scientific and creative applications

From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 On Behalf Of Nicolas Esposito
Sent: 09 September 2013 16:44
To: r...@casema.nl; 
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?

Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot that they 
acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software

Anyway a rental option would be nice

2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster mailto:r...@casema.nl>>
not seeing Softimage on that list



Rob



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http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices
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RE: Softimage Rental?

[Sofronis Efstathiou]

Doesn't it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite - Premium/Ultimate - 
which is $425/525 Monthly?


Sofronis Efstathiou

Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
Computer Animation Academic Group
National Centre for Computer Animation

Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805

Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou

Student Work:
http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation
http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX
http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation

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From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Esposito
Sent: 09 September 2013 16:44
To: r...@casema.nl; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?

Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot that they 
acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software

Anyway a rental option would be nice

2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster mailto:r...@casema.nl>>
not seeing Softimage on that list




Rob



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http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices


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Re: Softimage Rental?

[Rob Wuijster]

not seeing Softimage on that list


Rob

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So are we going to be getting a rental option?

http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices



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Re: Softimage Rental?

[Greg Maguire]

This rental approach looks interesting. However, I hope they adopt a more
appstore approach for the UK and don't just swop the $ for a £ sign.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rob Wuijster  wrote:

>  not seeing Softimage on that list
>
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
>
> On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
> So are we going to be getting a rental option?
>
> http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices
>
>
>
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RE: Would you like to recover your scene?

[Matt Lind]

I don't think too many people would debug an ASCII scene as much as edit it so 
they can salvage work.

The main problem with Softimage is it's file format is largely a black box and 
there are very few, if any, options to working around problems encountered in 
production when things go awry.  If the SDK were fully transparent we'd have 
seen a number of 3rd party solutions by now, but we don't.  I tried writing my 
own XML based file format for this project a few years ago only to run into the 
problem of not having enough information available to properly rebuild the 
scene accurately.

A simple example is the movecomponent operator.  All it does is apply a 
transformation on vertices and should be very easy to support - but it's 
impossible because the transformation applied by the movecomponent operator is 
not exposed anywhere where my code can get at it.  As a result I have to either 
freeze construction history to remove dependencies, or force users to not use 
certain tools so I can parse and rebuild the scene.  Freeze construction 
history is not really an option because when you get to envelopes, ICE, and 
secondary shape corrections, it's nearly impossible to guess how to reconstruct 
things as again, much of the required information is not exposed in the SDK.


Matt



From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Guillaume Laforge
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:26 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Would you like to recover your scene?

Hi Raph,

We all agree that ASCII file editing (like with Maya .ma) would be very useful.

My point was just about the crash issue. Having working with the source code of 
Softimage (even if I was not a persistence specialist), I can imagine how hard 
it would be to debug a crash in an ASCII scene file. By hard, I mean, from a 
production point of view. Of course people are free to spend days/weeks/months 
trying to debug such problem :).





On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
There's actually a surprising number of issues that you can spot right away 
when you have an ascii file that don't involve the kind of ASCII search that 
feels like picking fleas off a wolf.
Scene bloat, something Maya suffers for enormously but Soft isn't exactly 
immune to, is just one of many examples where if you have an ascii file finding 
the recurring pattern of orphaned data is easy and can bring a file back from 
the death.

Mind, not that it seems this is ever going to happen for Soft anyway at this 
point.

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Guillaume Laforge 
mailto:guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't want to be the TD searching in this ASCII .scn file trying to find out 
how to fix the crash.

Just saying :)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Andy Jones 
mailto:andy.jo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I 100% agree and am fully in favor of an ascii scene format.  Just
pointing out that it alone unfortunately doesn't solve the crash
recovery problem.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Angus Davidson
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
> An Ascii file format really is a must. Apart from being able to hack and 
> restore file (which saved many of my students when we were still using Maya, 
> it also allow Czars Git plugin to become far more useful. To be able to run 
> diffs on a scene to find out whats actually changed  would be amazing.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Angus
> 
> From: Andy Jones [andy.jo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 08 September 2013 10:15 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Would you like to recover your scene?
>
> I'd love an ascii scene file format as much as the next guy, but
> people still lose plenty of unsaved changes with Maya ascii.  Aside
> from general hackability, the big advantage of .ma is being able to
> fix broken scenes after they've been saved.
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Toonafish 
> mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl>> wrote:
>> Word !  That would save sooo many lives.
>>
>>
>> - Ronald
>>
>>
>> On 9/7/2013 18:23, Octavian Ureche wrote:
>>
>> Native ascii scene file format. Period.
>> Though we've been asking for it forever now.
>>
>> -Octav
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Matt Lind 
>> mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My only beef with your plugin is it cannot account for commands which do
>>> not log.  There's a good probability the scene your plugin generates is not
>>> an accurate representation of what last state of the scene actually was
>>> before it crashed.  Animation edits, for example, do not log at all.  Custom
>>> tools flagged to not log, or tools called from self installing commands do
>>> not log either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Back in good ol' days of XSI v6.x when we were treading water to get
>>> anything to function in XSI without exploding, I desper

RE: Softimage Rental?

[Angus Davidson]

Apart from the glaring omission of SI from that list the things that worries me 
in the FAQ is that rental options dont have previous version rights. Unless I 
have read that incorrectly your SOL if your client needs you to work on a older 
version.

One wonders how much if any thought has gone into this at all.


From: Rob Wuijster [r...@casema.nl]
Sent: 09 September 2013 05:38 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Rental?

not seeing Softimage on that list

Rob

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On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
So are we going to be getting a rental option?

http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices



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Re: Softimage Rental?

[Matt Morris]

Those prices have to be a joke surely. Their quarterly prices are the same
as my yearly subs. How exactly is that going to encourage people to rent?
Can only see it being any kind of value for a short term job (couple of
weeks where you need a certain software for compatibility).



On 9 September 2013 17:05, Miquel Campos  wrote:

> just for fun lets compare https://creative.adobe.com/plans?plan=offers
>
>
> 
>
> Miquel Campos
> www.miquelTD.com
>
>
>
> 2013/9/9 Miquel Campos 
>
>> I love the super saving (In Maya for example)   for 3 month contract you
>> only save 10$ .
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Miquel Campos
>> www.miquelTD.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/9/9 Jeremy Smith 
>>
>>>  Yeah.. where is Softimage on that list?  I hope we won’t have to hire
>>> the Suite just to get access to Soft…  Come on Autodesk!
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sofronis
>>> Efstathiou
>>> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:51
>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Ahhh – you mean individually – arse…..
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Sofronis Efstathiou
>>>
>>> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director***
>>> *
>>>
>>> Computer Animation Academic Group
>>>
>>> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>>>
>>>
>>> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>>>
>>>
>>> Student Work: 
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>>>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
>>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
>>> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
>>> 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>>> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>>>
>>> with wide scientific and creative applications
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Sofronis Efstathiou
>>> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:50
>>> *To:* 'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com'; 'r...@casema.nl'
>>> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Doesn’t it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite – Premium/Ultimate
>>> - which is $425/525 Monthly?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Sofronis Efstathiou
>>>
>>> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director***
>>> *
>>>
>>> Computer Animation Academic Group
>>>
>>> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>>>
>>>
>>> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>>>
>>>
>>> Student Work: 
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>>>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
>>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
>>> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
>>> 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>>> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>>>
>>> with wide scientific and creative applications
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Nicolas
>>> Esposito
>>> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:44
>>> *To:* r...@casema.nl; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Softimage Rental?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot
>>> that they acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
>>>
>>> Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Anyway a rental option would be nice
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> 2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster 
>>>
>>> not seeing Softimage on that list
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> \/-\/\/
>>>
>>>  On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>>>
>>>  So are we going to be getting a rental option?
>>>

Re: Softimage Rental?

[Nicolas Esposito]

Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot that
they acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software

Anyway a rental option would be nice


2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster 

>  not seeing Softimage on that list
>
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
>
> On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>
> So are we going to be getting a rental option?
>
> http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices
>
>
>
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Re: Softimage Rental?

[Miquel Campos]

just for fun lets compare https://creative.adobe.com/plans?plan=offers




Miquel Campos
www.miquelTD.com



2013/9/9 Miquel Campos 

> I love the super saving (In Maya for example)   for 3 month contract you
> only save 10$ .
>
>
> 
>
> Miquel Campos
> www.miquelTD.com
>
>
>
> 2013/9/9 Jeremy Smith 
>
>>  Yeah.. where is Softimage on that list?  I hope we won’t have to hire
>> the Suite just to get access to Soft…  Come on Autodesk!
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sofronis
>> Efstathiou
>> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:51
>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ahhh – you mean individually – arse…..
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sofronis Efstathiou
>>
>> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
>>
>> Computer Animation Academic Group
>>
>> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>>
>>
>> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>>
>>
>> Student Work: 
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
>> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>>
>> with wide scientific and creative applications
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Sofronis Efstathiou
>> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:50
>> *To:* 'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com'; 'r...@casema.nl'
>> *Subject:* RE: Softimage Rental?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Doesn’t it come with the Entertainment Creation Suite – Premium/Ultimate
>> - which is $425/525 Monthly?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sofronis Efstathiou
>>
>> Postgraduate Framework Leader and BFX Competition & Festival Director
>>
>> Computer Animation Academic Group
>>
>> *National Centre for Computer Animation*
>>
>>
>> Email: sefstath...@bournemouth.ac.uk
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1202 965805
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Profile: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/sofronisefstathiou
>>
>>
>> Student Work: 
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCA3DAnimation 
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCADigitalFX 
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/NCCAAnimation
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Pictures\nccalogo.jpg]
>>   [image: Description: Description: Description:
>> C:\Users\sefstathiou\Documents\My
>> Dropbox\Work_Files\NCCA\VFXandAnimation_competition\BFX_website\BFX_Website\bfx_logo_facebook.png]
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> [image: Description: Description: Description:
>> http://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/Images/QueensAwardLogo.jpg]
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Awarded for world-class computer animation teaching 
>>
>> with wide scientific and creative applications
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Nicolas
>> Esposito
>> *Sent:* 09 September 2013 16:44
>> *To:* r...@casema.nl; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Softimage Rental?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Maybe someone need to send an email to Autodesk, in case they forgot that
>> they acquired Softimage a couple of years ago
>>
>> Its amazing and really sad how they don't care about this software
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Anyway a rental option would be nice
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 2013/9/9 Rob Wuijster 
>>
>> not seeing Softimage on that list
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> \/-\/\/
>>
>>  On 9-9-2013 17:18, Eric Thivierge wrote:
>>
>>  So are we going to be getting a rental option?
>>
>> http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices 
>>
>> -
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Softimage Rental?

[Eric Thivierge]

So are we going to be getting a rental option?

http://www.autodesk.com/buy/us-prices

Re: unsubscribe

[Holger Weiss]

Re: uv broken on export

[olivier jeannel]

I understand your problem is in "the other way", but Orlando Esponda 
posted a quick fix for destroyed Uvs.

https://vimeo.com/groups/168156/videos/67783125


Le 09/09/2013 14:47, Gerbrand Nel a écrit :

I tried that.
nothing!!
2014 seems to be better, but not perfect.
I would export and re-import broken.
Close the scene, open and try again... fixed..
This is bloody annoying but I got it working so I'm moving right along :)
Thanks for the input!
G

BTW I still hate that google won't show me my own posts!

On 2013/09/09 02:16 PM, Toonafish wrote:

If you're using GOZ try export - import an Obj manually.

- Ronald

On 9/9/2013 11:40, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey Guys and Girls.
I've done a search on broken uv's in the archive, and it seems like 
I'm not the only one having this problem.

No solution though  :(
The problem is as follows:
I modelled an elephant in zbrush.
Imported the highress mesh into soft and re-modelled with proper 
topology and uv's.
As soon as I export the model to go and grab the detail in zbrush, 
The uvs on the one side of the model breaks.

Each face in a uv island is now separated into each own island.
Most faces are flipped, but the uv layout looks the same.
Anyone seen this and found a fix?
Thanks
Gerbrand

Re: uv broken on export

[Gerbrand Nel]

I tried that.
nothing!!
2014 seems to be better, but not perfect.
I would export and re-import broken.
Close the scene, open and try again... fixed..
This is bloody annoying but I got it working so I'm moving right along :)
Thanks for the input!
G

BTW I still hate that google won't show me my own posts!

On 2013/09/09 02:16 PM, Toonafish wrote:

If you're using GOZ try export - import an Obj manually.

- Ronald

On 9/9/2013 11:40, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey Guys and Girls.
I've done a search on broken uv's in the archive, and it seems like 
I'm not the only one having this problem.

No solution though  :(
The problem is as follows:
I modelled an elephant in zbrush.
Imported the highress mesh into soft and re-modelled with proper 
topology and uv's.
As soon as I export the model to go and grab the detail in zbrush, 
The uvs on the one side of the model breaks.

Each face in a uv island is now separated into each own island.
Most faces are flipped, but the uv layout looks the same.
Anyone seen this and found a fix?
Thanks
Gerbrand

Re: uv broken on export

[Toonafish]

If you're using GOZ try export - import an Obj manually.

- Ronald

On 9/9/2013 11:40, Gerbrand Nel wrote:

Hey Guys and Girls.
I've done a search on broken uv's in the archive, and it seems like 
I'm not the only one having this problem.

No solution though  :(
The problem is as follows:
I modelled an elephant in zbrush.
Imported the highress mesh into soft and re-modelled with proper 
topology and uv's.
As soon as I export the model to go and grab the detail in zbrush, The 
uvs on the one side of the model breaks.

Each face in a uv island is now separated into each own island.
Most faces are flipped, but the uv layout looks the same.
Anyone seen this and found a fix?
Thanks
Gerbrand

Re: Would you like to recover your scene?

[Guillaume Laforge]

Hi Raph,

We all agree that ASCII file editing (like with Maya .ma) would be very
useful.

My point was just about the crash issue. Having working with the source
code of Softimage (even if I was not a persistence specialist), I can
imagine how hard it would be to debug a crash in an ASCII scene file. By
hard, I mean, from a production point of view. Of course people are free to
spend days/weeks/months trying to debug such problem :).






On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> There's actually a surprising number of issues that you can spot right
> away when you have an ascii file that don't involve the kind of ASCII
> search that feels like picking fleas off a wolf.
>
> Scene bloat, something Maya suffers for enormously but Soft isn't exactly
> immune to, is just one of many examples where if you have an ascii file
> finding the recurring pattern of orphaned data is easy and can bring a file
> back from the death.
>
> Mind, not that it seems this is ever going to happen for Soft anyway at
> this point.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Guillaume Laforge <
> guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't want to be the TD searching in this ASCII .scn file trying to
>> find out how to fix the crash.
>>
>> Just saying :)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Andy Jones  wrote:
>>
>>> I 100% agree and am fully in favor of an ascii scene format.  Just
>>> pointing out that it alone unfortunately doesn't solve the crash
>>> recovery problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Angus Davidson
>>>  wrote:
>>> > An Ascii file format really is a must. Apart from being able to hack
>>> and restore file (which saved many of my students when we were still using
>>> Maya, it also allow Czars Git plugin to become far more useful. To be able
>>> to run diffs on a scene to find out whats actually changed  would be
>>> amazing.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards
>>> >
>>> > Angus
>>> > 
>>> > From: Andy Jones [andy.jo...@gmail.com]
>>> > Sent: 08 September 2013 10:15 AM
>>> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> > Subject: Re: Would you like to recover your scene?
>>> >
>>> > I'd love an ascii scene file format as much as the next guy, but
>>> > people still lose plenty of unsaved changes with Maya ascii.  Aside
>>> > from general hackability, the big advantage of .ma is being able to
>>> > fix broken scenes after they've been saved.
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Toonafish  wrote:
>>> >> Word !  That would save sooo many lives.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - Ronald
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/7/2013 18:23, Octavian Ureche wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Native ascii scene file format. Period.
>>> >> Though we've been asking for it forever now.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Octav
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Matt Lind 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My only beef with your plugin is it cannot account for commands
>>> which do
>>> >>> not log.  There’s a good probability the scene your plugin generates
>>> is not
>>> >>> an accurate representation of what last state of the scene actually
>>> was
>>> >>> before it crashed.  Animation edits, for example, do not log at all.
>>>  Custom
>>> >>> tools flagged to not log, or tools called from self installing
>>> commands do
>>> >>> not log either.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Back in good ol’ days of XSI v6.x when we were treading water to get
>>> >>> anything to function in XSI without exploding, I desperately tried to
>>> >>> salvage crashed scenes using a similar technique, but because many
>>> commands
>>> >>> were not logged it was not possible to salvage work or even rebuild
>>> it
>>> >>> enough to send to Softimage to diagnose the cause of the crash to
>>> get it
>>> >>> fixed.  Critical missing steps caused the rebuild script to error
>>> out, or if
>>> >>> it was lucky enough to get to the end without error, the end result
>>> was not
>>> >>> at all like what it should’ve been.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Matt
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> >>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Andy
>>> Jones
>>> >>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:44 PM
>>> >>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Would you like to recover your scene?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've said this before, but the script log comes really really close
>>> to
>>> >>> implementing "journalling" which is the thing that made filesystems
>>> more
>>> >>> robust in the 2000's.  the binary dump emergency save thing is
>>> really kind
>>> >>> of a silly way to attack the problem of replaying a journal of
>>> operations.
>>> >>> If Autodesk realized this, they'd prioritize the completeness of
>>> command
>>> >>> logging and build a simple toolset for replaying the unsaved
>>> operation
>>> >>> journal.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I sent my "repeatHistor

Re: ICE puzzle

[olivier jeannel]

Excellent trick !

Le 09/09/2013 11:07, Mladen Kevic a écrit :
if you need just to puzzle plane object, is easier to use imported 
vector file, and for illustrator is easy to create it (for example 
just for quick google search 
http://levelx.me/art-design/create-a-jigsaw-puzzle-in-adobe-illustrator/)
save form Illustrator as SWF and import into XSI as curves + objects 
with http://www.inframez.com/dev_swfi.htm





On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Mirko Jankovic 
mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Anyone aware of ICE compound that breaks up plane into puzzle like
tiles?
Thanks

Re: Slowing simulation down?

[Oscar Juarez]

You can also try KP_PointCacheTools, it has subsampling for the caching so
you can interpolate nicely.

Also you can plot the simulation as shapes, shapes will be interpolated
while as far as I know using the cache manager wont let you interpolate
them.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Morten Bartholdy wrote:

> **
>
>  I am making thin ribbons hanging from a hot air lantern , which are
> supposed to be flowing gently and poetically in the air. I am using Syflex
> (not the ICE version) which is fast and reliable. However, the motion is
> too fast, so I have tried caching the deformed geometry, loading it back as
> a clip in the AnimationMixer which I then scale to make it slow down. It
> does slow down, but it seems it does not interpolate cached point positions
> properly, creating jittery motion.
>
>
>I guess I am not doing this right, but the docs say it is possible to
> timewarp cached simulation, so I guess there is a way to do this - are
> there any of you simulation TD's that can point me in the right direction?
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>Morten
>
>
>
>

uv broken on export

[Gerbrand Nel]

Hey Guys and Girls.
I've done a search on broken uv's in the archive, and it seems like I'm 
not the only one having this problem.

No solution though  :(
The problem is as follows:
I modelled an elephant in zbrush.
Imported the highress mesh into soft and re-modelled with proper 
topology and uv's.
As soon as I export the model to go and grab the detail in zbrush, The 
uvs on the one side of the model breaks.

Each face in a uv island is now separated into each own island.
Most faces are flipped, but the uv layout looks the same.
Anyone seen this and found a fix?
Thanks
Gerbrand

Re: ICE puzzle

[Mladen Kevic]

if you need just to puzzle plane object, is easier to use imported vector
file, and for illustrator is easy to create it (for example just for quick
google search
http://levelx.me/art-design/create-a-jigsaw-puzzle-in-adobe-illustrator/)
save form Illustrator as SWF and import into XSI as curves + objects with
http://www.inframez.com/dev_swfi.htm




On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

> Anyone aware of ICE compound that breaks up plane into puzzle like tiles?
> Thanks
>

Re: ICE puzzle

[Rob Wuijster]

That first video is awesome.

thanks for the link!

Rob

\/-\/\/

On 9-9-2013 10:02, olivier jeannel wrote:

Booleans with Implosia maybe ?

Vincent Ullmann seems to be THE specialist in tiling things as well :
https://vimeo.com/59532255
https://vimeo.com/56176239


Le 09/09/2013 09:17, Mirko Jankovic a écrit :
Anyone aware of ICE compound that breaks up plane into puzzle like 
tiles?

Thanks




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Slowing simulation down?

[Morten Bartholdy]

I am making thin ribbons hanging from a hot air lantern , which are
supposed to be flowing gently and poetically in the air. I am using Syflex
(not the ICE version) which is fast and reliable. However, the motion is
too fast, so I have tried caching the deformed geometry, loading it back as
a clip in the AnimationMixer which I then scale to make it slow down. It
does slow down, but it seems it does not interpolate cached point positions
properly, creating jittery motion.

I guess I am not doing this right, but the docs say it is possible to
timewarp cached simulation, so I guess there is a way to do this - are
there any of you simulation TD's that can point me in the right direction?


Thanks!

Morten

Re: ICE puzzle

[olivier jeannel]

Booleans with Implosia maybe ?

Vincent Ullmann seems to be THE specialist in tiling things as well :
https://vimeo.com/59532255
https://vimeo.com/56176239


Le 09/09/2013 09:17, Mirko Jankovic a écrit :

Anyone aware of ICE compound that breaks up plane into puzzle like tiles?
Thanks

ICE puzzle

[Mirko Jankovic]

Anyone aware of ICE compound that breaks up plane into puzzle like tiles?
Thanks