Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-09 Thread Stefan Kubicek



xsi = Application
ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
for N in ad.Views:
if N.Type == Menu Window:
   print N.GetAttributeValue(metadata)


This is gold! I'm really curious as to how you found that.
I've been attempting to do more with menus for years, but the SDK functionality 
is just not there, and it doesn't seem to have any dev priority whatsoever.
E.g., there is no method to get rid of factory-installed menu items, or insert 
custom menu items between factory-installed ones (can't enumerate menu items), 
or is there?


This will return the name of the Menu Window...don't ask how I found that,
pure luck.

I now realize even getting the name won't be enough to know it's part of my
menu.  If someone tears off a sub-menu for instance, the name will not be
the same name as the original Menu name.

-tony



On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks Luc-Eric.

I am able to find the torn off menu but I'm trying to find the right one.
 Using this:

xsi = Application
ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
for N in ad.Views:
print N.Name

prints Menu Window.  Is there a way to find the title of the torn off Menu
Window so I can be sure it's the right one I want to close?'

-tony


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:


I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the reply, Brad!!

 Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Tony-

 I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't
 think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it
didn't
 in the versions we were using.

 -B

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
  different entries.  The menu building is all functioning
correctly...unless
  a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly,
but the
  torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
exist in
  memory.
 
  Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn
off
  menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any
torn off
  menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer
does
  anything.
 
  Are either of these solutions currently possible?
 
  Thanks much!
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony





--
-tony








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Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-09 Thread Tony Barbieri
Pure luck...I've never really worked with the Softimage API before, so
perhaps my being nieve helped figure this out :).

Also as I found out afterwards and this blog
posthttp://xsisupport.com/2013/07/09/identifying-tear-off-menus/
states,
you can pass any string to GetAttributeValue and it will return the Menu
Window's title.

-tony


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote:


  xsi = Application
 ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
 for N in ad.Views:
 if N.Type == Menu Window:
print N.GetAttributeValue(metadata**)


 This is gold! I'm really curious as to how you found that.
 I've been attempting to do more with menus for years, but the SDK
 functionality is just not there, and it doesn't seem to have any dev
 priority whatsoever.
 E.g., there is no method to get rid of factory-installed menu items, or
 insert custom menu items between factory-installed ones (can't enumerate
 menu items), or is there?


  This will return the name of the Menu Window...don't ask how I found that,
 pure luck.

 I now realize even getting the name won't be enough to know it's part of
 my
 menu.  If someone tears off a sub-menu for instance, the name will not be
 the same name as the original Menu name.

 -tony



 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Luc-Eric.

 I am able to find the torn off menu but I'm trying to find the right one.
  Using this:

 xsi = Application
 ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
 for N in ad.Views:
 print N.Name

 prints Menu Window.  Is there a way to find the title of the torn off
 Menu
 Window so I can be sure it's the right one I want to close?'

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
 for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
 doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks for the reply, Brad!!
 
  Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...
 
  -tony
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Tony-
 
  I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I
 don't
  think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it
 didn't
  in the versions we were using.
 
  -B
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hello!
  
   I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
   different entries.  The menu building is all functioning
 correctly...unless
   a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated
 correctly,
 but the
   torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
 exist in
   memory.
  
   Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn
 off
   menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any
 torn off
   menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer
 does
   anything.
  
   Are either of these solutions currently possible?
  
   Thanks much!
  
   --
   -tony
 
 
 
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony






 --
 --**---
   Stefan Kubicek   ste...@keyvis.at
 --**---
keyvis digital imagery
   Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3
A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien
 Phone:  +43 (0) 699 12614231
  www.keyvis.at
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-- 
-tony


Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-09 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
That's funny ... there is a bug in the tear menu window get attribute method

It's supposed to return the name of the menu for targetcontent
but the instead it returns it if the name of the attribute is anything
except targetcontent.

so you could probably go GetAttributeValue(Luc-Eric) and it would work anyway.

my apologies


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote:

 xsi = Application
 ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
 for N in ad.Views:
 if N.Type == Menu Window:
print N.GetAttributeValue(metadata)


 This is gold! I'm really curious as to how you found that.
 I've been attempting to do more with menus for years, but the SDK
 functionality is just not there, and it doesn't seem to have any dev
 priority whatsoever.
 E.g., there is no method to get rid of factory-installed menu items, or
 insert custom menu items between factory-installed ones (can't enumerate
 menu items), or is there?


 This will return the name of the Menu Window...don't ask how I found that,
 pure luck.

 I now realize even getting the name won't be enough to know it's part of
 my
 menu.  If someone tears off a sub-menu for instance, the name will not be
 the same name as the original Menu name.

 -tony



 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Luc-Eric.

 I am able to find the torn off menu but I'm trying to find the right one.
  Using this:

 xsi = Application
 ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
 for N in ad.Views:
 print N.Name

 prints Menu Window.  Is there a way to find the title of the torn off
 Menu
 Window so I can be sure it's the right one I want to close?'

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau
 luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
 for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
 doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks for the reply, Brad!!
 
  Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...
 
  -tony
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Tony-
 
  I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I
  don't
  think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it
 didn't
  in the versions we were using.
 
  -B
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello!
  
   I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
   different entries.  The menu building is all functioning
 correctly...unless
   a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated
   correctly,
 but the
   torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
 exist in
   memory.
  
   Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn
 off
   menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any
 torn off
   menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer
 does
   anything.
  
   Are either of these solutions currently possible?
  
   Thanks much!
  
   --
   -tony
 
 
 
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony






 --
 -
   Stefan Kubicek   ste...@keyvis.at
 -
keyvis digital imagery
   Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3
A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien
 Phone:  +43 (0) 699 12614231
  www.keyvis.at
 --   This email and its attachments are--
 -- confidential and for the recipient only --




Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-09 Thread Stefan Kubicek

Thanks a lot, that's good to know. One exclamation mark at too much in the code 
I guess :-)



That's funny ... there is a bug in the tear menu window get attribute method

It's supposed to return the name of the menu for targetcontent
but the instead it returns it if the name of the attribute is anything
except targetcontent.

so you could probably go GetAttributeValue(Luc-Eric) and it would work anyway.

my apologies


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote:



xsi = Application
ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
for N in ad.Views:
if N.Type == Menu Window:
   print N.GetAttributeValue(metadata)



This is gold! I'm really curious as to how you found that.
I've been attempting to do more with menus for years, but the SDK
functionality is just not there, and it doesn't seem to have any dev
priority whatsoever.
E.g., there is no method to get rid of factory-installed menu items, or
insert custom menu items between factory-installed ones (can't enumerate
menu items), or is there?



This will return the name of the Menu Window...don't ask how I found that,
pure luck.

I now realize even getting the name won't be enough to know it's part of
my
menu.  If someone tears off a sub-menu for instance, the name will not be
the same name as the original Menu name.

-tony



On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks Luc-Eric.

I am able to find the torn off menu but I'm trying to find the right one.
 Using this:

xsi = Application
ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
for N in ad.Views:
print N.Name

prints Menu Window.  Is there a way to find the title of the torn off
Menu
Window so I can be sure it's the right one I want to close?'

-tony


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau
luceri...@gmail.comwrote:


I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Thanks for the reply, Brad!!

 Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Tony-

 I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I
 don't
 think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it
didn't
 in the versions we were using.

 -B

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
  different entries.  The menu building is all functioning
correctly...unless
  a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated
  correctly,
but the
  torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
exist in
  memory.
 
  Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn
off
  menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any
torn off
  menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer
does
  anything.
 
  Are either of these solutions currently possible?
 
  Thanks much!
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony





--
-tony








--
-
  Stefan Kubicek   ste...@keyvis.at
-
   keyvis digital imagery
  Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3
   A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien
Phone:  +43 (0) 699 12614231
 www.keyvis.at
--   This email and its attachments are--
-- confidential and for the recipient only --






--
-
  Stefan Kubicek   ste...@keyvis.at
-
   keyvis digital imagery
  Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3
   A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien
Phone:  +43 (0) 699 12614231
 www.keyvis.at
--   This email and its attachments are--
-- confidential and for the recipient only --



Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Barbieri
Hello!

I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
different entries.  The menu building is all functioning correctly...unless
a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly, but
the torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
exist in memory.

Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn off
menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any torn off
menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer does
anything.

Are either of these solutions currently possible?

Thanks much!

-- 
-tony


Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Bradley Gabe
Hi Tony-

I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't think 
the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it didn't in the 
versions we were using.

-B

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with different 
 entries.  The menu building is all functioning correctly...unless a torn off 
 menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly, but the torn off 
 menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer exist in memory.
 
 Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn off menu.  
 If that is not possible then I would just like to close any torn off menus to 
 limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer does anything.
 
 Are either of these solutions currently possible?
 
 Thanks much!
 
 -- 
 -tony



Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Barbieri
Thanks for the reply, Brad!!

Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...

-tony


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tony-

 I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't
 think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it didn't
 in the versions we were using.

 -B

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
 different entries.  The menu building is all functioning correctly...unless
 a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly, but
 the torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
 exist in memory.
 
  Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn off
 menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any torn off
 menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer does
 anything.
 
  Are either of these solutions currently possible?
 
  Thanks much!
 
  --
  -tony




-- 
-tony


Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Barbieri
Is it possible to disallow tearing off a menu?  Because of the frequency of
menu updates, there could be a lot of orphaned torn off menus about...


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the reply, Brad!!

 Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tony-

 I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't
 think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it didn't
 in the versions we were using.

 -B

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
 different entries.  The menu building is all functioning correctly...unless
 a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly, but
 the torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
 exist in memory.
 
  Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn off
 menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any torn off
 menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer does
 anything.
 
  Are either of these solutions currently possible?
 
  Thanks much!
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony




-- 
-tony


Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the reply, Brad!!

 Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tony-

 I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't
 think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it didn't
 in the versions we were using.

 -B

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
  different entries.  The menu building is all functioning correctly...unless
  a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly, but 
  the
  torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer exist in
  memory.
 
  Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn off
  menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any torn off
  menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer does
  anything.
 
  Are either of these solutions currently possible?
 
  Thanks much!
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony


Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Barbieri
Thanks Luc-Eric.

I am able to find the torn off menu but I'm trying to find the right one.
 Using this:

xsi = Application
ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
for N in ad.Views:
print N.Name

prints Menu Window.  Is there a way to find the title of the torn off Menu
Window so I can be sure it's the right one I want to close?'

-tony


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
 for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
 doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the reply, Brad!!
 
  Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...
 
  -tony
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Tony-
 
  I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't
  think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it
 didn't
  in the versions we were using.
 
  -B
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello!
  
   I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
   different entries.  The menu building is all functioning
 correctly...unless
   a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly,
 but the
   torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
 exist in
   memory.
  
   Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn off
   menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any
 torn off
   menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer does
   anything.
  
   Are either of these solutions currently possible?
  
   Thanks much!
  
   --
   -tony
 
 
 
 
  --
  -tony




-- 
-tony


Re: Programmatically Close a Torn off Menu

2013-07-08 Thread Tony Barbieri
xsi = Application
ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
for N in ad.Views:
if N.Type == Menu Window:
   print N.GetAttributeValue(metadata)

This will return the name of the Menu Window...don't ask how I found that,
pure luck.

I now realize even getting the name won't be enough to know it's part of my
menu.  If someone tears off a sub-menu for instance, the name will not be
the same name as the original Menu name.

-tony



On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Luc-Eric.

 I am able to find the torn off menu but I'm trying to find the right one.
  Using this:

 xsi = Application
 ad = xsi.Desktop.ActiveLayout
 for N in ad.Views:
 print N.Name

 prints Menu Window.  Is there a way to find the title of the torn off Menu
 Window so I can be sure it's the right one I want to close?'

 -tony


 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think you should be able to find the tear off menu view by searching
 for the floating window on the desktop, and then close that.
 doesn't it apear in the Window menu?

 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the reply, Brad!!
 
  Wasn't sure if you had messed with that...bummer...
 
  -tony
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bradley Gabe witha...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Tony-
 
  I remember looking into that issue and coming up empty handed. I don't
  think the SDK provides any handles for menu windows, or at least it
 didn't
  in the versions we were using.
 
  -B
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Tony Barbieri great...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello!
  
   I am working on a project that is dynamically rebuilding menus with
   different entries.  The menu building is all functioning
 correctly...unless
   a torn off menu exists.  The non-torn off menu is updated correctly,
 but the
   torn off menu becomes orphaned because the old callbacks no longer
 exist in
   memory.
  
   Ideally (and I know this is a long shot) we would rebuild the torn
 off
   menu.  If that is not possible then I would just like to close any
 torn off
   menus to limit confusion as to why pressing a menu item no longer
 does
   anything.
  
   Are either of these solutions currently possible?
  
   Thanks much!
  
   --
   -tony
 
 
 
 
  --
  -tony




 --
 -tony




-- 
-tony