RE: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
Thanks however, the artist who had the issue is not remember to use Pivot Compensation. I'll tell them though! Thanks the info!! From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform I'm at home now, and opened your scene in SI 2014. You're using Pivot and Pivot Compensation. That's why you are having awkward results with Freeze SRT. You need to reset the pivot before Freeze SRT it. Open Your Local Transform properties, look for Pivot, and preset Reset Pivot. M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Martin furik...@gmail.com wrote: What is not in the origin? the center or the manipulator? The manipulator is aligned with the pivot, not the center. Is your model node also frozen? M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.com wrote: Thanbks Guys, We use 2014, and model format wouldn't help too much since there's no backward compatibility. I tried all the reset transforms, etc, that's the issue. The center is not where it should be. When I display the center, it's not at the same position as the transform manipulator display in local mode, but all the transform data are zeroed (Scaling is 1). So the transform should be in the origin, but it's not. There is no neutral pose too. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:10 PM To: g...@inlifesize.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform We are using only Softimage 2011 here at work so I can't open your file. Freeze SRT aligns the center of the object with it's model center. Pivot and Center are different concepts, so be sure you are not confusing them. Just to be sure, reset your pivot like Jack said. You could try moving your center manually, just select your center and move it, rotate it and or scale it. This should do something similar to Freeze Translation: // JScript var obj = selection(0) Translate(null, -obj.posx.value, -obj.posy.value, -obj.posz.value, siRelative, siGlobal, siCtr, siXYZ); M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Greg Maguire g...@inlifesize.com wrote: I don't have an late enough version of Soft installed. Can you send as a model? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.com wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but freezing a transform should put the center into the origin. Apparently, there are cases, when the center is not positioned properly, moreover, when I switch on the visibility of the center, and I'm in Local transform, they are not aligned at all. These objects are fubar, I have to merge those objects, and the extract them again, but this way I lose all coordinate data which is crucial for us, in our game engine. Anyone met this issue, and if yes how it is resolved? I ask for support, but meanwhile I'd like to have a quick solution. Remodeling is not an option, due to the tight deadline... Thanks, Szabolcs ___ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Crytek GmbH - http://www.crytek.com - Grüneburgweg 16-18, 60322 Frankfurt - HRB77322 Amtsgericht Frankfurt a. Main- UST IdentNr.: DE20432461 - Geschaeftsfuehrer: Avni Yerli, Cevat Yerli, Faruk Yerli -- Greg Maguire | Inlifesize Mobile: +44 7512 361462 tel:%2B44%207512%20361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 tel:%2B44%202890%20204739 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
RE: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
Have your tried reset pivot?
Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
I don't have an late enough version of Soft installed. Can you send as a model? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.comwrote: Correct me if I’m wrong, but freezing a transform should put the center into the origin. Apparently, there are cases, when the center is not positioned properly, moreover, when I switch on the visibility of the center, and I’m in Local transform, they are not aligned at all. These objects are fubar, I have to merge those objects, and the extract them again, but this way I lose all coordinate data which is crucial for us, in our game engine. ** ** Anyone met this issue, and if yes how it is resolved? I ask for support, but meanwhile I’d like to have a quick solution. Remodeling is not an option, due to the tight deadline… ** ** ** ** Thanks, ** ** ** ** ** ** Szabolcs ** ** ___ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Crytek GmbH - http://www.crytek.com - Grüneburgweg 16-18, 60322 Frankfurt - HRB77322 Amtsgericht Frankfurt a. Main- UST IdentNr.: DE20432461 - Geschaeftsfuehrer: Avni Yerli, Cevat Yerli, Faruk Yerli -- *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
We are using only Softimage 2011 here at work so I can't open your file. Freeze SRT aligns the center of the object with it's model center. Pivot and Center are different concepts, so be sure you are not confusing them. Just to be sure, reset your pivot like Jack said. You could try moving your center manually, just select your center and move it, rotate it and or scale it. This should do something similar to Freeze Translation: // JScript var obj = selection(0) Translate(null, -obj.posx.value, -obj.posy.value, -obj.posz.value, siRelative, siGlobal, siCtr, siXYZ); M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Greg Maguire g...@inlifesize.com wrote: I don't have an late enough version of Soft installed. Can you send as a model? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.comwrote: Correct me if I’m wrong, but freezing a transform should put the center into the origin. Apparently, there are cases, when the center is not positioned properly, moreover, when I switch on the visibility of the center, and I’m in Local transform, they are not aligned at all. These objects are fubar, I have to merge those objects, and the extract them again, but this way I lose all coordinate data which is crucial for us, in our game engine. ** ** Anyone met this issue, and if yes how it is resolved? I ask for support, but meanwhile I’d like to have a quick solution. Remodeling is not an option, due to the tight deadline… ** ** ** ** Thanks, ** ** ** ** ** ** Szabolcs ** ** ___ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Crytek GmbH - http://www.crytek.com - Grüneburgweg 16-18, 60322 Frankfurt - HRB77322 Amtsgericht Frankfurt a. Main- UST IdentNr.: DE20432461 - Geschaeftsfuehrer: Avni Yerli, Cevat Yerli, Faruk Yerli -- *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
RE: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
Thanbks Guys, We use 2014, and model format wouldn't help too much since there's no backward compatibility. I tried all the reset transforms, etc, that's the issue. The center is not where it should be. When I display the center, it's not at the same position as the transform manipulator display in local mode, but all the transform data are zeroed (Scaling is 1). So the transform should be in the origin, but it's not. There is no neutral pose too. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:10 PM To: g...@inlifesize.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform We are using only Softimage 2011 here at work so I can't open your file. Freeze SRT aligns the center of the object with it's model center. Pivot and Center are different concepts, so be sure you are not confusing them. Just to be sure, reset your pivot like Jack said. You could try moving your center manually, just select your center and move it, rotate it and or scale it. This should do something similar to Freeze Translation: // JScript var obj = selection(0) Translate(null, -obj.posx.value, -obj.posy.value, -obj.posz.value, siRelative, siGlobal, siCtr, siXYZ); M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Greg Maguire g...@inlifesize.com wrote: I don't have an late enough version of Soft installed. Can you send as a model? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.com wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but freezing a transform should put the center into the origin. Apparently, there are cases, when the center is not positioned properly, moreover, when I switch on the visibility of the center, and I'm in Local transform, they are not aligned at all. These objects are fubar, I have to merge those objects, and the extract them again, but this way I lose all coordinate data which is crucial for us, in our game engine. Anyone met this issue, and if yes how it is resolved? I ask for support, but meanwhile I'd like to have a quick solution. Remodeling is not an option, due to the tight deadline... Thanks, Szabolcs ___ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Crytek GmbH - http://www.crytek.com - Grüneburgweg 16-18, 60322 Frankfurt - HRB77322 Amtsgericht Frankfurt a. Main- UST IdentNr.: DE20432461 - Geschaeftsfuehrer: Avni Yerli, Cevat Yerli, Faruk Yerli -- Greg Maguire | Inlifesize Mobile: +44 7512 361462 tel:%2B44%207512%20361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 tel:%2B44%202890%20204739 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com
Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
Check there is not a neutral pose set. S. On 13/05/2013 11:39, Szabolcs Matefy wrote: Thanbks Guys, We use 2014, and model format wouldn't help too much since there's no backward compatibility. I tried all the reset transforms, etc, that's the issue. The center is not where it should be. When I display the center, it's not at the same position as the transform manipulator display in local mode, but all the transform data are zeroed (Scaling is 1). So the transform should be in the origin, but it's not. There is no neutral pose too.
Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
What is not in the origin? the center or the manipulator? The manipulator is aligned with the pivot, not the center. Is your model node also frozen? M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.comwrote: Thanbks Guys, ** ** We use 2014, and model format wouldn’t help too much since there’s no backward compatibility. ** ** I tried all the reset transforms, etc, that’s the issue. The center is not where it should be. When I display the center, it’s not at the same position as the transform manipulator display in local mode, but all the transform data are zeroed (Scaling is 1). So the transform should be in the origin, but it’s not. There is no neutral pose too. ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 12:10 PM *To:* g...@inlifesize.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform ** ** We are using only Softimage 2011 here at work so I can't open your file.** ** ** ** Freeze SRT aligns the center of the object with it's model center. ** ** Pivot and Center are different concepts, so be sure you are not confusing them. Just to be sure, reset your pivot like Jack said. ** ** You could try moving your center manually, just select your center and move it, rotate it and or scale it. ** ** This should do something similar to Freeze Translation: // JScript var obj = selection(0) Translate(null, -obj.posx.value, -obj.posy.value, -obj.posz.value, siRelative, siGlobal, siCtr, siXYZ); ** ** M.Yara ** ** On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Greg Maguire g...@inlifesize.com wrote: I don't have an late enough version of Soft installed. Can you send as a model? ** ** On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.com wrote: Correct me if I’m wrong, but freezing a transform should put the center into the origin. Apparently, there are cases, when the center is not positioned properly, moreover, when I switch on the visibility of the center, and I’m in Local transform, they are not aligned at all. These objects are fubar, I have to merge those objects, and the extract them again, but this way I lose all coordinate data which is crucial for us, in our game engine. Anyone met this issue, and if yes how it is resolved? I ask for support, but meanwhile I’d like to have a quick solution. Remodeling is not an option, due to the tight deadline… Thanks, Szabolcs ___ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Crytek GmbH - http://www.crytek.com - Grüneburgweg 16-18, 60322 Frankfurt - HRB77322 Amtsgericht Frankfurt a. Main- UST IdentNr.: DE20432461 - Geschaeftsfuehrer: Avni Yerli, Cevat Yerli, Faruk Yerli ** ** -- *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com ** **
Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform
I'm at home now, and opened your scene in SI 2014. You're using Pivot and Pivot Compensation. That's why you are having awkward results with Freeze SRT. You need to reset the pivot before Freeze SRT it. Open Your Local Transform properties, look for Pivot, and preset Reset Pivot. M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Martin furik...@gmail.com wrote: What is not in the origin? the center or the manipulator? The manipulator is aligned with the pivot, not the center. Is your model node also frozen? M.Yara On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.comwrote: Thanbks Guys, ** ** We use 2014, and model format wouldn’t help too much since there’s no backward compatibility. ** ** I tried all the reset transforms, etc, that’s the issue. The center is not where it should be. When I display the center, it’s not at the same position as the transform manipulator display in local mode, but all the transform data are zeroed (Scaling is 1). So the transform should be in the origin, but it’s not. There is no neutral pose too. ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 12:10 PM *To:* g...@inlifesize.com; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Awkward center of object after freeze transform ** ** We are using only Softimage 2011 here at work so I can't open your file.* *** ** ** Freeze SRT aligns the center of the object with it's model center. ** ** Pivot and Center are different concepts, so be sure you are not confusing them. Just to be sure, reset your pivot like Jack said. ** ** You could try moving your center manually, just select your center and move it, rotate it and or scale it. ** ** This should do something similar to Freeze Translation: // JScript var obj = selection(0) Translate(null, -obj.posx.value, -obj.posy.value, -obj.posz.value, siRelative, siGlobal, siCtr, siXYZ); ** ** M.Yara ** ** On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Greg Maguire g...@inlifesize.com wrote: I don't have an late enough version of Soft installed. Can you send as a model? ** ** On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Szabolcs Matefy szabol...@crytek.com wrote: Correct me if I’m wrong, but freezing a transform should put the center into the origin. Apparently, there are cases, when the center is not positioned properly, moreover, when I switch on the visibility of the center, and I’m in Local transform, they are not aligned at all. These objects are fubar, I have to merge those objects, and the extract them again, but this way I lose all coordinate data which is crucial for us, in our game engine. Anyone met this issue, and if yes how it is resolved? I ask for support, but meanwhile I’d like to have a quick solution. Remodeling is not an option, due to the tight deadline… Thanks, Szabolcs ___ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Crytek GmbH - http://www.crytek.com - Grüneburgweg 16-18, 60322 Frankfurt - HRB77322 Amtsgericht Frankfurt a. Main- UST IdentNr.: DE20432461 - Geschaeftsfuehrer: Avni Yerli, Cevat Yerli, Faruk Yerli ** ** -- *Greg Maguire* | Inlifesize Mobile: +44 7512 361462 | Phone: +44 2890 204739 g...@inlifesize.com | www.inlifesize.com ** **
