Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Mirko Jankovic]

hoax was when they bough it at the first place. I still remember chill I've
got down my spine the moment I saw that they bought it.. it was fully
proven to be correct predicament


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Jordi Bares  wrote:

> Is this a hoax?
>
> Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com
>
> On 4 Mar 2014, at 11:45, Stephen Blair  wrote:
>
> As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like
> this:
>
> http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or
>> autodesk.com?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum <
>> hear...@glassworks.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>  Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we
>>> would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on
>>> the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a
>>> dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational
>>> establishments don't teach softimage.
>>>
>>> I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to
>>> come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Alastair Hearsum
>>>  Head of 3d
>>> [image: GLASSWORKS]
>>>  33/34 Great Pulteney Street
>>> London
>>> W1F 9NP
>>> +44 (0)20 7434 1182
>>> glassworks.co.uk 
>>>  Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at
>>> glassworks.co.uk
>>>  (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office
>>> 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729)
>>>  Please consider the environment before you print this email.
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>>> private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated
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>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are
>>> not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail
>>> in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying
>>> of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in
>>> error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from
>>> your system.
>>>  On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>   +1 And I will add.
>>>
>>>  Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to
>>> be as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>>>
>>>  As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
>>> Who cares what are you working with.
>>>
>>>  As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
>>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
>>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>>>
>>>  So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>>>
 Agree a 100%

 On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:

>  Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide
> and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer
> bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro
> tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of
> entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on
> the back of software that come with the pro label and price.
>
> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>
>  Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>
>
>  A
>
>
>
> ...
> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>
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> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
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>
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>
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Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Jordi Bares]

Is this a hoax?

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com

On 4 Mar 2014, at 11:45, Stephen Blair  wrote:

> As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like 
> this:
> http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name  wrote:
> Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or 
> autodesk.com?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum  
> wrote:
> Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would 
> have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the 
> project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling 
> resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't 
> teach softimage.
> 
> I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but 
> it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alastair Hearsum
> Head of 3d
> 
> 33/34 Great Pulteney Street
> London
> W1F 9NP
> +44 (0)20 7434 1182
> glassworks.co.uk
> Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk
> (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 
> Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729)
> Please consider the environment before you print this email.
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> prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it 
> to the sender and delete this message from your system.
> On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>> +1 And I will add.
>> 
>> Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as 
>> efficient and slim as Softimage.
>> 
>> As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.  Who 
>> cares what are you working with.
>> 
>> As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks 
>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my 
>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>> 
>> So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>> Agree a 100%
>> 
>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule 
>> through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody 
>> mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like 
>> softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely 
>> unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of 
>> software that come with the pro label and price.
>> 
>> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a 
>> number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along 
>> the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly 
>> architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a 
>> more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>> 
>> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>> 
>> 
>> A
>> 
>> 
>> ...
>> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
>> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
>> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>> 
>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended 
>> solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or 
>> opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily 
>> represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.
>> 
>> If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take 
>> any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.
>> 
>> Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in 
>> error.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Mirko Jankovic]

so here is also official FUCK YOU autodesk and good bye.
lying to customers for the past couple years, can't call it anything else
but that.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Stephen Blair wrote:

> As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like
> this:
>
> http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or
>> autodesk.com?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum <
>> hear...@glassworks.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>  Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we
>>> would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on
>>> the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a
>>> dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational
>>> establishments don't teach softimage.
>>>
>>> I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to
>>> come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Alastair Hearsum
>>>  Head of 3d
>>> [image: GLASSWORKS]
>>>  33/34 Great Pulteney Street
>>> London
>>> W1F 9NP
>>> +44 (0)20 7434 1182
>>> glassworks.co.uk 
>>>  Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at
>>> glassworks.co.uk
>>>  (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office
>>> 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729)
>>>  Please consider the environment before you print this email.
>>>  DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged,
>>> private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated
>>> recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the
>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are
>>> not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail
>>> in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying
>>> of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in
>>> error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from
>>> your system.
>>>  On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>   +1 And I will add.
>>>
>>>  Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to
>>> be as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>>>
>>>  As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
>>> Who cares what are you working with.
>>>
>>>  As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
>>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
>>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>>>
>>>  So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>>>
 Agree a 100%

 On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:

>  Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide
> and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer
> bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro
> tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of
> entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on
> the back of software that come with the pro label and price.
>
> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>
>  Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>
>
>  A
>
>
>
> ...
> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>
>  This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.
>
> If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither
> take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.
>
> Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email
> in error.
> 
>

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Stephen Blair]

As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like
this:
http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name  wrote:

> Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or
> autodesk.com?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum <
> hear...@glassworks.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>  Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we
>> would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on
>> the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a
>> dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational
>> establishments don't teach softimage.
>>
>> I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come
>> but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Alastair Hearsum
>>  Head of 3d
>> [image: GLASSWORKS]
>>  33/34 Great Pulteney Street
>> London
>> W1F 9NP
>> +44 (0)20 7434 1182
>> glassworks.co.uk 
>>  Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk
>>  (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office
>> 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729)
>>  Please consider the environment before you print this email.
>>  DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private
>> and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any
>> views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not
>> necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended
>> recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that
>> any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is
>> strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please
>> kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system.
>>  On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>>
>>   +1 And I will add.
>>
>>  Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to
>> be as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>>
>>  As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
>> Who cares what are you working with.
>>
>>  As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>>
>>  So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>>
>>> Agree a 100%
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>>>
  Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide
 and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer
 bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro
 tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of
 entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on
 the back of software that come with the pro label and price.

 People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
 for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
 new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
 and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
 seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.

  Revenge is best served cold for a reason


  A



 ...
 http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
 https://vimeo.com/user4174293
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21


  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
 http://spylon.tumblr.com/

  This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
 intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
 views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
 necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.

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 take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.

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>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[nick name]

Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or
autodesk.com?


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum
wrote:

>  Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we
> would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on
> the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a
> dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational
> establishments don't teach softimage.
>
> I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come
> but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Alastair Hearsum
>  Head of 3d
> [image: GLASSWORKS]
>  33/34 Great Pulteney Street
> London
> W1F 9NP
> +44 (0)20 7434 1182
> glassworks.co.uk 
>  Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk
>  (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25
> Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729)
>  Please consider the environment before you print this email.
>  DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private
> and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any
> views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended
> recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that
> any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is
> strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please
> kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system.
>  On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>
>   +1 And I will add.
>
>  Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be
> as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>
>  As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
> Who cares what are you working with.
>
>  As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>
>  So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>
>> Agree a 100%
>>
>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>>
>>>  Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide
>>> and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer
>>> bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro
>>> tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of
>>> entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on
>>> the back of software that come with the pro label and price.
>>>
>>> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
>>> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
>>> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
>>> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
>>> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>>>
>>>  Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>>>
>>>
>>>  A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
>>> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
>>> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>>>
>>>  This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
>>> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
>>> necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.
>>>
>>> If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither
>>> take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.
>>>
>>> Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in
>>> error.
>>> 
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Alastair Hearsum]

Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we 
would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on 
the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a 
dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational 
establishments don't teach softimage.


I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to 
come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have.






Alastair Hearsum
Head of 3d
GLASSWORKS
33/34 Great Pulteney Street
London
W1F 9NP
+44 (0)20 7434 1182
glassworks.co.uk 
Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk
(Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 
25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729)

Please consider the environment before you print this email.
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and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). 
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On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

+1 And I will add.

Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to 
be as efficient and slim as Softimage.


As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the 
job.  Who cares what are you working with.


As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks 
because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from 
my clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".


So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.








2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado >:


Agree a 100%

On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall mailto:hack...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want.
Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of
soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it
all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to
kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed
on the back of software that come with the pro label and price.

People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients
using soft for a number of years to come but it would be
prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's
wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly
architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get
your cash.

Revenge is best served cold for a reason


A



...
http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
https://vimeo.com/user4174293
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21


http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
http://spylon.tumblr.com/

This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and
are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it
is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those
of the author and do not necessarily represent those of
Hackney Effects Ltd.

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neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or
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RE: Ensuing Chaos

[Matt Lind]

Ditto.

We have roughly 65-70 Soft licenses under maintenance, are located in the West, 
owned by a Korean company who's largest shareholders are Japanese venture 
capitalists, and are the largest publishers worldwide of games in our genre.  I 
don't think it's had any influence with AD.


Matt



From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:46 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Ensuing Chaos

If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my NDA.
But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much 
consideration.

Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the whole 
commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance I've stopped 
caring much for any of them a while ago.

IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast moving 
orbital fuck about any of their Western M&E clients when it comes to Soft, but 
in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not true to any 
relevant extent.
Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access, previews, 
participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship and so on, but 
ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has the dullest of hooks 
in there.

This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything short of 
fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice, involved and 
friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is just not 
conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly catered for, 
not to the extent smaller firms do.
I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys rules 
that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity the next 
time I fall on my ass :p

If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could only 
be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen 
culturally).
I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of seats 
under maintenance.

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron 
mailto:car...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Raff

Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a 
parting gift...

Steven

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[nick name]

So they say, but I'm still hoping we won't be. For me maybe it's the 1st
phase - denial, I don't know.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Artur Woźniak  wrote:

> So, paraphrasing some famous movie "we are proper fucked" starting
> tomorrow?
>
> Artur Woźniak
>
>
> https://vimeo.com/83506156
> https://vimeo.com/user3560131/videos
>
>
> 2014-03-04 2:45 GMT+01:00 Raffaele Fragapane 
> :
>
> If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my
>> NDA.
>> But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much
>> consideration.
>>
>> Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the
>> whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance
>> I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago.
>>
>> IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast
>> moving orbital fuck about any of their Western M&E clients when it comes to
>> Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not
>> true to any relevant extent.
>> Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access,
>> previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship
>> and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has
>> the dullest of hooks in there.
>>
>> This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything
>> short of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice,
>> involved and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is
>> just not conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly
>> catered for, not to the extent smaller firms do.
>> I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys
>> rules that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity
>> the next time I fall on my ass :p
>>
>> If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it
>> could only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to
>> happen culturally).
>> I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of
>> seats under maintenance.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Raff
>>>
>>> Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As
>>> a parting gift...
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Artur Woźniak]

So, paraphrasing some famous movie "we are proper fucked" starting tomorrow?

Artur Woźniak


https://vimeo.com/83506156
https://vimeo.com/user3560131/videos


2014-03-04 2:45 GMT+01:00 Raffaele Fragapane :

> If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my
> NDA.
> But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much
> consideration.
>
> Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the
> whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance
> I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago.
>
> IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast
> moving orbital fuck about any of their Western M&E clients when it comes to
> Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not
> true to any relevant extent.
> Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access,
> previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship
> and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has
> the dullest of hooks in there.
>
> This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything
> short of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice,
> involved and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is
> just not conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly
> catered for, not to the extent smaller firms do.
> I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys
> rules that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity
> the next time I fall on my ass :p
>
> If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could
> only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen
> culturally).
> I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of
> seats under maintenance.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron  wrote:
>
>> Hey Raff
>>
>> Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As
>> a parting gift...
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Raffaele Fragapane]

If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my
NDA.
But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much
consideration.

Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the
whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance
I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago.

IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast
moving orbital fuck about any of their Western M&E clients when it comes to
Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not
true to any relevant extent.
Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access,
previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship
and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has
the dullest of hooks in there.

This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything short
of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice, involved
and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is just not
conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly catered
for, not to the extent smaller firms do.
I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys rules
that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity the
next time I fall on my ass :p

If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could
only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen
culturally).
I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of
seats under maintenance.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron  wrote:

> Hey Raff
>
> Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a
> parting gift...
>
> Steven
>
>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Steven Caron]

Hey Raff

Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a
parting gift...

Steven


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Well, not being able to scale up by buying more seats if the need was ever
> to arise is a pretty major issue with companies killing software.
>
> For individuals it's one thing, you can ride an existing license like
> Soft's for years, especially when you consider how little drastic
> innovation we've seen in mainstream apps in quite a while. If you scale
> between dozens and hundreds, or even dozen to a score, it's a deal breaker
> and it has consequences.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>
>> +1 And I will add.
>>
>> Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be
>> as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>>
>> As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
>> Who cares what are you working with.
>>
>> As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>>
>> So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>>
>> Agree a 100%
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>>>
 Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and
 rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody
 mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like
 softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
 unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back
 of software that come with the pro label and price.

 People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
 for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
 new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
 and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
 seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.

 Revenge is best served cold for a reason


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Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Well, not being able to scale up by buying more seats if the need was ever
to arise is a pretty major issue with companies killing software.

For individuals it's one thing, you can ride an existing license like
Soft's for years, especially when you consider how little drastic
innovation we've seen in mainstream apps in quite a while. If you scale
between dozens and hundreds, or even dozen to a score, it's a deal breaker
and it has consequences.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:

> +1 And I will add.
>
> Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be
> as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>
> As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
> Who cares what are you working with.
>
> As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>
> So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>
> Agree a 100%
>>
>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>>
>>> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and
>>> rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody
>>> mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like
>>> softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
>>> unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back
>>> of software that come with the pro label and price.
>>>
>>> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
>>> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
>>> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
>>> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
>>> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>>>
>>> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>>>
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
>>> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>>>
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Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Maurício PC]

Tomorrow!


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:31 PM, nick name  wrote:

> So when is this rumor supposed to become news if ever?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:29 AM, pedro santos  wrote:
>
>> True, bad mouthing can soft kill things that otherwise would hold on. On
>> the other hand shows more lack of confidence in ADSK than in Softimage.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  + 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:
>>>
 +1 And I will add.

 Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to
 be as efficient and slim as Softimage.

 As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
 Who cares what are you working with.

 As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
 because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
 clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".

 So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.








 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :

 Agree a 100%
>
> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>
>> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide
>> and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer
>> bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro
>> tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act 
>> of
>> entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on
>> the back of software that come with the pro label and price.
>>
>> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using
>> soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn
>> something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated
>> work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning
>> curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get
>> your cash.
>>
>> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>>
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>> ...
>> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
>> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
>> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>>
>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 
>> Any
>> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
>> necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.
>>
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>> take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.
>>
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>>
>
>


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Re: Ensuing Chaos

[nick name]

So when is this rumor supposed to become news if ever?


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:29 AM, pedro santos  wrote:

> True, bad mouthing can soft kill things that otherwise would hold on. On
> the other hand shows more lack of confidence in ADSK than in Softimage.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  + 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys.
>>
>>
>> On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:
>>
>>> +1 And I will add.
>>>
>>> Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to
>>> be as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>>>
>>> As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
>>> Who cares what are you working with.
>>>
>>> As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
>>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
>>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>>>
>>> So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>>>
>>> Agree a 100%

 On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:

> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide
> and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer
> bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro
> tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of
> entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on
> the back of software that come with the pro label and price.
>
> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>
> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>
>
> A
>
>
>
> ...
> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>
> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.
>
> If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither
> take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.
>
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>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[pedro santos]

True, bad mouthing can soft kill things that otherwise would hold on. On
the other hand shows more lack of confidence in ADSK than in Softimage.

Cheers


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  + 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys.
>
>
> On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:
>
>> +1 And I will add.
>>
>> Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be
>> as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>>
>> As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
>> Who cares what are you working with.
>>
>> As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
>> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
>> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>>
>> So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>>
>> Agree a 100%
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>>>
 Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and
 rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody
 mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like
 softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
 unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back
 of software that come with the pro label and price.

 People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
 for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
 new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
 and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
 seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.

 Revenge is best served cold for a reason


 A



 ...
 http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
 https://vimeo.com/user4174293
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21


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Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Sebastien Sterling]

 + 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys.


On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:

> +1 And I will add.
>
> Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be
> as efficient and slim as Softimage.
>
> As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.
> Who cares what are you working with.
>
> As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
> because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
> clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".
>
> So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :
>
> Agree a 100%
>>
>> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>>
>>> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and
>>> rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody
>>> mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like
>>> softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
>>> unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back
>>> of software that come with the pro label and price.
>>>
>>> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
>>> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
>>> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
>>> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
>>> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>>>
>>> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>>>
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
>>> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
>>> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
>>> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
>>> necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.
>>>
>>> If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither
>>> take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.
>>>
>>> Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in
>>> error.
>>> 
>>>
>>
>

Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Emilio Hernandez]

+1 And I will add.

Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be
as efficient and slim as Softimage.

As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job.  Who
cares what are you working with.

As I said before I never heard of a client saying "Hey you work sucks
because it is not done in Maya".  Au contraire. What I've heard from my
clients is "Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy".

So... again.  I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken.








2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado :

> Agree a 100%
>
> On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:
>
>> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and
>> rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody
>> mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like
>> softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
>> unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back
>> of software that come with the pro label and price.
>>
>> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft
>> for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something
>> new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow
>> and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
>> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>>
>> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
>>
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>> ...
>> http://www.hackneyeffects.com/
>> https://vimeo.com/user4174293
>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/
>> http://spylon.tumblr.com/
>>
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Re: Ensuing Chaos

[Francisco Criado]

Agree a 100%

On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall  wrote:

> Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and
> rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody
> mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like
> softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely
> unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back
> of software that come with the pro label and price.
>
> People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for
> a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new
> along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and
> elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it
> seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash.
>
> Revenge is best served cold for a reason
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