Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Lance Norskog wrote: One of Parkinson's Laws is that the most trivial item on the agenda receives the most attention. Don't doubt the law, don't doubt the logo is trivial, certainly doubt its receiving more attention than the code.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Yeah, no names. Also, I think we need a Solr-Powered logo, too, that people can use to display, if they want, that shows they are using Solr. On Jul 27, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run- off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Grant Ingersoll http://www.lucidimagination.com Lucene Helpful Hints: http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/BasicsOfPerformance http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/LuceneFAQ
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. How did this turn out? We're running out of time if anyone wants to make changes in time for 1.3 -Yonik Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Here are the results http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html I'll post the stats shortly too. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. How did this turn out? We're running out of time if anyone wants to make changes in time for 1.3 -Yonik Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Stats have been added. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the results http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/%7Eshalin/poll.html I'll post the stats shortly too. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. How did this turn out? We're running out of time if anyone wants to make changes in time for 1.3 -Yonik Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stats have been added. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the results http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/%7Eshalin/poll.html I'll post the stats shortly too. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. How did this turn out? We're running out of time if anyone wants to make changes in time for 1.3 -Yonik Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Very cool. At this point, I guess what we should do is call a vote for the committers (on solr-dev) nominating the highest vote getter as the new Solr logo. On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Stats have been added. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the results http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/%7Eshalin/poll.html I'll post the stats shortly too. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. How did this turn out? We're running out of time if anyone wants to make changes in time for 1.3 -Yonik Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Grant Ingersoll http://www.lucidimagination.com Lucene Helpful Hints: http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/BasicsOfPerformance http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/LuceneFAQ
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Ok, sorry for the confusion. Yes everybody got two votes (the best-fit and second-best). The stats I posted are only for the best-fit image. I shall post the stats for the second-best fit image too. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) The original poll form is no longer up I thought I remember seeing a 1st and 2nd choice on a single form, but perhaps that was one of Mark's polls. Anyway, my analysis was about the splitting of a vote... many variations of one logo while only a single variation of another style. Doesn't make for a fair vote. I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) Whatever you like ;-) I'll personally go with the community at large in this look-n-feel business (that's why I didn't vote). -Yonik
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Updated with second preference votes, total votes and corresponding charts. http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) The original poll form is no longer up I thought I remember seeing a 1st and 2nd choice on a single form, but perhaps that was one of Mark's polls. Anyway, my analysis was about the splitting of a vote... many variations of one logo while only a single variation of another style. Doesn't make for a fair vote. I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) Whatever you like ;-) I'll personally go with the community at large in this look-n-feel business (that's why I didn't vote). -Yonik -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
OK, so looking at family totals: 33 - the curvy family (9,10,11) 36 - #3 (normal font) 64 - straight line family Again 36 and 64 aren't directly comparable since #3 was the only representative for it's family (hence no one would vote for it as 1st and 2nd best). -Yonik On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Updated with second preference votes, total votes and corresponding charts. http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) The original poll form is no longer up I thought I remember seeing a 1st and 2nd choice on a single form, but perhaps that was one of Mark's polls. Anyway, my analysis was about the splitting of a vote... many variations of one logo while only a single variation of another style. Doesn't make for a fair vote. I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) Whatever you like ;-) I'll personally go with the community at large in this look-n-feel business (that's why I didn't vote). -Yonik -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
So how about a run off between #2 (straight line family member with most votes) and #3 (normal font)? -Sean Yonik Seeley wrote: OK, so looking at family totals: 33 - the curvy family (9,10,11) 36 - #3 (normal font) 64 - straight line family Again 36 and 64 aren't directly comparable since #3 was the only representative for it's family (hence no one would vote for it as 1st and 2nd best). -Yonik On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Updated with second preference votes, total votes and corresponding charts. http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) The original poll form is no longer up I thought I remember seeing a 1st and 2nd choice on a single form, but perhaps that was one of Mark's polls. Anyway, my analysis was about the splitting of a vote... many variations of one logo while only a single variation of another style. Doesn't make for a fair vote. I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) Whatever you like ;-) I'll personally go with the community at large in this look-n-feel business (that's why I didn't vote). -Yonik -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
I'm hesitant to do another poll. It can only delay things. We have only 17 issues left to resolve in 1.3 out of which 3-4 are almost cooked and we must focus on the rest. Since the ones in the poll were the only designs available and keeping in mind that everyone got ample time to cast their vote, I guess we should choose the one with maximum number of votes. As per Grant's suggestion, let's do a quick vote on solr-dev and finalize things. Thoughts? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Sean Timm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how about a run off between #2 (straight line family member with most votes) and #3 (normal font)? -Sean Yonik Seeley wrote: OK, so looking at family totals: 33 - the curvy family (9,10,11) 36 - #3 (normal font) 64 - straight line family Again 36 and 64 aren't directly comparable since #3 was the only representative for it's family (hence no one would vote for it as 1st and 2nd best). -Yonik On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Updated with second preference votes, total votes and corresponding charts. http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/%7Eshalin/poll.html On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some comments: The straight line family: 29 votes #3 (the normal font one): 21 votes *but* everyone got two votes (right?). If these published vote totals represent both votes, then #3 was disadvantaged by having only one representative of it's family there. So odds are, if people had only a choice between their favorite straight line logo and their favorite #3 looking logo, that #3 would win. This of course ignores weighting first choices higher than second choices (which I don't see stats on) and assumes that people voting from all the two other logo families (cartoon curvy) would break evenly. There. clear as mud ;-) -Yonik There was no restriction on how many times one can vote. However, I don't see any repeated names, though people could vote again with another name ;) The original poll form is no longer up I thought I remember seeing a 1st and 2nd choice on a single form, but perhaps that was one of Mark's polls. Anyway, my analysis was about the splitting of a vote... many variations of one logo while only a single variation of another style. Doesn't make for a fair vote. I can't say that I follow you and your assumptions, just let me know what to do next ;) Whatever you like ;-) I'll personally go with the community at large in this look-n-feel business (that's why I didn't vote). -Yonik -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess we should choose the one with maximum number of votes. I'd prefer that the community decide on the best logo. Choosing #3 on a simple majority when there were 6 variants of #2 to split the vote, doesn't feel fair. The fair thing to me looks like a runoff between #2 and #3. -Yonik
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
: I'd prefer that the community decide on the best logo. : Choosing #3 on a simple majority when there were 6 variants of #2 to : split the vote, doesn't feel fair. : The fair thing to me looks like a runoff between #2 and #3. Agreed, but I'd suggest including #9 as well. Between #9,1011 there was fairly decent vote close to what #3 got and while #1011 both have some fine detail that's hard to reproduce in smaller versions, 9 is both simple to scale and fairly representative of the group. A simple 1person==1vote runoff of #2, #3, and #9 lasting 72 hours should be quick and fairly representative. Assuming that produces a decent number of votes indicating a concesus there's no need to call a vote of committers anymore then there would be for any other documentation/site change. (Disclaimer: i also didn't vote before, and i plan on abstaining from the runoff, but i'm with yonik: i don't think there was a clear mandate from the community given the number of small variations on similar designs) -Hoss
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Chris Hostetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I'd prefer that the community decide on the best logo. : Choosing #3 on a simple majority when there were 6 variants of #2 to : split the vote, doesn't feel fair. : The fair thing to me looks like a runoff between #2 and #3. Agreed, but I'd suggest including #9 as well. Between #9,1011 there was fairly decent vote close to what #3 got and while #1011 both have some fine detail that's hard to reproduce in smaller versions, 9 is both simple to scale and fairly representative of the group. A simple 1person==1vote runoff of #2, #3, and #9 lasting 72 hours should be quick and fairly representative. There's still the splitting-the-vote possibility. Not a huge deal, but in this specific case, it's easy to eliminate if we want (give people a first and second choice again). -Yonik
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
I've closed the poll. 71 votes have come in. I'll publish statistics shortly. Not sure if it would be ok to publish the spreadsheet itself since it contains names -- I don't want any privacy lawsuits ;) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
54 votes and counting! Let's give it one more day and close it tomorrow (July 24, 2008) Preliminary results may bias the poll :) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll? -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
: http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html Except the existing Solr logo isn't on that list. i smell election tampering :) Seriously though: I realized a long time ago that there was too much email to reply too, too many features to work on, too many patches to review, and too few hours in the day for me to really care what the Solr Admin screens or the Solr Logo looked like. As long as the admin screens are functional and readable, and as long as the logo contains the word Solr I'm happy -- You crazy kids, with all your energy and enthusiasm, should feel free to go nuts. -Hoss
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Chris Hostetter wrote: : http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html Except the existing Solr logo isn't on that list. i smell election tampering :) I had put it in my poll :) I actually considered bringing that up to Shalin as well, but couldn't bring myself to be so fair I suppose g Seriously though: I realized a long time ago that there was too much email to reply too, too many features to work on, too many patches to review, and too few hours in the day for me to really care what the Solr Admin screens or the Solr Logo looked like. In general, I couldn't agree more. Talented guys like yourself should be kept busy on important non visual stuff for sure. The work on what solr actually does should come first, no question! I am not trying to pull any busy developer into the admin gui. As long as the admin screens are functional and readable, and as long as the logo contains the word Solr I'm happy -- You crazy kids, with all your energy and enthusiasm, should feel free to go nuts. Good, cause all that above said, I still want improvement! In some ways, its not the best bang for your buck, but some volunteers might be into the design thing. The open source user is usually well aware that admin gui's come last, and doesn't make any judgments of code/product quality on such things - if you did you'd be making the wrong judgments! But those outside of the open source circle often associate superficial looks with quality (and vice versa)- which is why commercial stuff 'tends' (not always for sure) to look better than open source stuff. They pay a designer to make something that looks pleasing. But I don't care about the possibly small value of it. I have energy to spare, and I want solr to look fantastic. Don't ask me why - personal itch. So no work necessary from anyone else, and I'll try to stay out of the way - I have a personal itch to upgrade the look - the current look just rubs me wrong :) Its not that important, but I want to help improve it anyway - I think thats part of the beauty of open source - no budgets. I am fully prepared to get nowhere as well - no use not trying though. Already there may be an improved logo g - Mark -Hoss
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
How about releasing the preliminary results so we can see if a run-off is in order! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion: if its already a runaway, we might as well not prolong things. If not though, we should probably give some time for any possible laggards. The 'admin look' poll received its first 19-20 votes in the first night / morning, and has only gotten 2 or 3 since then, so probably no use going to long. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: 28 votes so far and counting! When should we close this poll?
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Too bad the polls created with Google docs don't support images in them (or atleast i couldn't figure out how to do it) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Sorry you can't vote guys - makes me look realy smart eh g I can vote even when I log out of the admin section, so I am clueless why you cannot. But I am going to fix things somehow and add those new logos for consideration. - Mark Ryan McKinley wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
nor does http://selectricity.org/ On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Too bad the polls created with Google docs don't support images in them (or atleast i couldn't figure out how to do it) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
I looked for a long time for an easy free image polling system, and couldn't find much beyond shareware. I am still looking for something though... Ryan McKinley wrote: nor does http://selectricity.org/ On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Too bad the polls created with Google docs don't support images in them (or atleast i couldn't figure out how to do it) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
How about a form that has a 1 to 5 radio button option beside each logo and a box to enter your name? -Mike On 21-Jul-08, at 11:43 AM, Mark Miller wrote: I looked for a long time for an easy free image polling system, and couldn't find much beyond shareware. I am still looking for something though... Ryan McKinley wrote: nor does http://selectricity.org/ On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Too bad the polls created with Google docs don't support images in them (or atleast i couldn't figure out how to do it) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
RE: Vote on a new solr logo
Mark, No worries, you are still way ahead of electronic voting! -Original Message- From: Mark Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Vote on a new solr logo Sorry you can't vote guys - makes me look realy smart eh g I can vote even when I log out of the admin section, so I am clueless why you cannot. But I am going to fix things somehow and add those new logos for consideration. - Mark Ryan McKinley wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Will this do? A 1-5 for each image is difficult but I guess this goes 80% with 20% effort :) http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Mike Klaas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a form that has a 1 to 5 radio button option beside each logo and a box to enter your name? -Mike On 21-Jul-08, at 11:43 AM, Mark Miller wrote: I looked for a long time for an easy free image polling system, and couldn't find much beyond shareware. I am still looking for something though... Ryan McKinley wrote: nor does http://selectricity.org/ On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Too bad the polls created with Google docs don't support images in them (or atleast i couldn't figure out how to do it) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar. -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: Vote on a new solr logo
Perfect! Thank you Shalin. Much appreciated, and a dead simple system. My vote is in. - Mark Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Will this do? A 1-5 for each image is difficult but I guess this goes 80% with 20% effort :) http://people.apache.org/~shalin/poll.html On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Mike Klaas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a form that has a 1 to 5 radio button option beside each logo and a box to enter your name? -Mike On 21-Jul-08, at 11:43 AM, Mark Miller wrote: I looked for a long time for an easy free image polling system, and couldn't find much beyond shareware. I am still looking for something though... Ryan McKinley wrote: nor does http://selectricity.org/ On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar wrote: Too bad the polls created with Google docs don't support images in them (or atleast i couldn't figure out how to do it) On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Ryan McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't figure how to use the poll either... here are a few others to check out: http://lapnap.net/solr/ perhaps a and f could live together, you use 'a' if you need a background other then white On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Mike Klaas wrote: On 20-Jul-08, at 6:19 PM, Mark Miller wrote: From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ I don't really understand how to use the poll. I click on a logo, and am then taken to a page on which the stars are unclickable. Which stars should be clicked on? -Mike -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Vote on a new solr logo
From the dev list: Shalin Shekhar Mangar: +1 for a new logo. It's a new release, let's have a new logo too! First step is to decide which one of these is more Solr-ish. I'm looking to improve the look of solr, so I am going to do my best to push this process along. Not to keep shoving polls down everyones throat, but if you could, please go to the following site and rate the solr logos that you love or hate: http://solrlogo.myhardshadow.com/solr-logo-vote/ If you want to submit a logo as a candidate, I am working on allowing auto upload if possible, but you can just shoot me the logo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will add it right away. Thanks for any and all cooperation in improving the look of this fantastic software. - Mark
