Re: [Fwd: Re: [sqlalchemy] Book]

2010-01-16 Thread Mark Ramm
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, werner wbru...@free.fr wrote:
 Seeing that Mark Ramm is co-author of this book, will it cover TurboGears in
 any why when it comes out?

It has been massively postponed, but it's not altogether stopped.
I've been working some the last two weeks to try to get it unjammed
and going again.

Chances are that it will not partiularly cover TurboGears, but that it
might use TG or Pylons in some examples, along with Django and some
desktop GUI toolkit or other.

--Mark Ramm
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[sqlalchemy] SQLAlchemy schema migrations: Oracle tester needed

2007-11-02 Thread Mark Ramm

Migrate, the SQLALchemy migration tool has a new home and a new name.
You can find the new improved sqlalchemy-migrate at:

http://code.google.com/p/sqlalchemy-migrate/

Jan Dittberner and dykang have done the nessisary work to get migrate
back into a functional state for SQLAlchemy 0.3.10, and that work was
merged into trunk today.

There are plans to do the SQLAlchemy 0.4 migration as soon as possible
and release a sqlalchemy-migrate packate that is 0.4 compatable.   But
right now we need people who are willing to test migrate on 0.3 and
let us know if everything works -- in particular we need someone who
has a full oracle licence to test and see if migrate works there (we
have failing oracle test, but we're not sure if it's the result of 10g
XE limitations, or if the oracle support is actually broken).

There's a to-do list on the wiki at:

http://code.google.com/p/sqlalchemy-migrate/wiki/Todo

Any input/help/advice/critique from the community is welcome.  When I
talked about SQLAlchemy at PyCon the issue of Migrations was one of
the most discussed features, and I would really like to see world
class migration support in SQLAlchemy to go along with all of it's
other world class features ;)

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[sqlalchemy] Fwd: Migrate: svndump loaded into google code project

2007-10-02 Thread Mark Ramm

I thought this might be of interest to many of you.

We've been trying to gather up a few people to and revive the
floundering SQLAlchemy migrations project.  There's actually some
pretty good code there already, it just needs a bit of love and
tenderness to get it up to date wth SQLALchemy 0.4.

It would be a huge benefit to have a clear story to tell in the python
world about how to do agile database development, or just how to
manage database upgrades as your application evolves.

If you feel up to it, join the mailing list,
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) look over the code, ask some
questions, and get involved.

--Mark

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Date: Oct 2, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Migrate: svndump loaded into google code project?
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 I just loaded Evan's svndump into the shiny new google code repository
 at: http://sqlalchemy-migrate.googlecode.com/svn/

 Now everything is ready to start the work on reviving migrate.

Thanks Jan!

Just a reminder, I think we should work on getting the monkey patch
removal branch working with 0.3.10 first.

I think someone may have even completed this work, if so now would be
a great time to check that in. ;)

Once that's done I would propose moving that branch to trunk and
working on making it 0.4 ready.

--Mark


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[sqlalchemy] Re: major help required with SQLAlchemy and Turbogears.

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Ramm

 Great.  This gives us a very good reason to shift everything we have
 to Pylons.  I like the fact that Pylons gives us that controller as I
 think that control is very important in developing a robust
 application.  I want to know what goes one versus having the framework
 do everything for me.  Moving to pylons now.

You can also turn off automatic transaction handling in TurboGears.
It's a one line config change, and then you are back in controll of
your transactions.

But the on/off switch is a bit too course grained for what we
ultimately want, so TG 2 will have a much more configurable
transaction system.

--Mark

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[sqlalchemy] Re: major help required with SQLAlchemy and Turbogears.

2007-06-30 Thread Mark Ramm

 it appears that they are binding their metadata to a connection
 completely distinct from the one they bind their SessionTransaction
 to, is generally disastrous for a straight SQL statement like
 table.update().

This is something we should fix in the 1.x line, and make sure we
don't replicate in the 2.0 transaction managment middleware when that
gets built.

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[sqlalchemy] Re: TurboEntity announcement

2006-10-30 Thread Mark Ramm

 I've seen some other TG-named stuff (Turbo(Mail|Setup)) that only looks
 to work with TG, so some people might assume that about your project as
 well (if they're lazy and don't read).

I think the turbo prefix may not always mean that it's intended for
use with TurboGears.

Turbogears is spinning off some core parts (widgets in particular)
into framework independent libraries.   And those may also have the
Turbo prefix.

But really I don't think the lack of a naming convention will create
too much trouble.   It is worth a mention on the TurboEntity site
though!

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[sqlalchemy] Re: TurboEntity announcement

2006-10-30 Thread Mark Ramm

 Right, TGWidgets.  I wasn't suggesting it would cause mass confusion
 or anything, just that since it's its own thing, being under the TG
 namespace makes it look related to TG as opposed to a something that
 works well with TG but just as well without.

Yep.  Makes sense.  I just noticed that it's called TGWidgets because
TurboWidgets is already taken, and it's NOT a TurboGears or even a
Python related project.

The namespace confusion is inescapable!

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