Re: [sqlite] Question about concurrency

2009-01-12 Thread Dan

On Jan 11, 2009, at 3:37 AM, Lawrence Gold wrote:

> This question may sound a bit daft, but I'll ask anyway: If I use  
> SQLite
> in the default SQLITE_CONFIG_SERIALIZED threading mode and share a
> connection among threads, does that connection support multiple
> simultaneous reads, or will each read access be serialized?

With CONFIG_SERIALIZED, database and prepared statement handles are
thread-safe objects. All API calls to a single database handle or
any of its statement handles are serialized.

> I'm assuming that for maximum concurrency in a multithreaded app, I
> would need to set the threading mode to SQLITE_CONFIG_MULTITHREAD and
> have a connection per thread, but I wanted to confirm this before I  
> made
> any big code changes.

In CONFIG_MULTITHREAD mode, you are responsible for serializing calls
on a single database handle and its statement handles yourself. If you
make calls on a single database handle from two or more threads  
simultaneously
the application will likely crash or malfunction.

The degree of concurrency provided is the same in either case, just that
in CONFIG_MULTITHREAD mode you are responsible for enforcing it  
yourself.

Dan.

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Re: [sqlite] Memory loss with sqlite3_bind - issue resolved

2009-01-12 Thread John Delaney

Hi Jay,
 
Thanks for your response and it is the cache as you say.
 
After ~ 150 inserts memory stabilises thereafter. This equates approx to the 
2000 cache pages.
Thanks again.
 
John D.
 
> Using SQLite3 3.5.9, I am seeing a consistent rise in memory with each  > 
> call to sqlite3_step().
>> Jay A. Kreibich wrote:
>> I'd assume it is the normal cache behavior. By default, SQLite>> database 
>> pages are 1K and the max page cache is 2000, using a total>> of about 3MB of 
>> RAM (each page as a ~0.5K overhead).>> >> You could try a lot more queries 
>> and see if things level out and/or>> lower the cache limit via PRAGMA.
 
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Re: [sqlite] .dump and transactions

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Jarosch
On Friday, 9. January 2009 10:34:32 Thomas Jarosch wrote:
> I run a small script every night via cron to backup a database
> using the ".dump" statement. SQlite version is 3.6.6.2 on Linux.
>
> Normally this script works fine and from time to time
> I get a backup file that looks like this:
> ---
> BEGIN TRANSACTION;
> END TRANSACTION;
> ---

Here's a short example to reproduce the problem:

sqlite3 test.db
create table test (name varchar(16));
begin transaction;
insert into test values ('test');

Now open a second shell and do this:

sqlite3 test.db
.dump

This will output:
---
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
END TRANSACTION;
---

I tested sqlite 3.5.9 on my workstation, it correctly
dumps the table even if a transaction is open,
only 3.6.6.2 shows this behavior so far.

Is this supposed to be?

Cheers,
Thomas

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Re: [sqlite] Hi, a question from Colombia

2009-01-12 Thread MikeW
Ribeiro, Glauber  writes:

> 
> Carlos,
> 
> If you don't mind, I'll answer through the list, because there are
> people there who know much more than I do.
> 
> 
> glauber
> 
Hey, glauber, you didn't say which country you were from !
;-)

MikeW (UK)

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Re: [sqlite] .dump and transactions

2009-01-12 Thread P Kishor
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Thomas Jarosch
 wrote:
> On Friday, 9. January 2009 10:34:32 Thomas Jarosch wrote:
>> I run a small script every night via cron to backup a database
>> using the ".dump" statement. SQlite version is 3.6.6.2 on Linux.
>>
>> Normally this script works fine and from time to time
>> I get a backup file that looks like this:
>> ---
>> BEGIN TRANSACTION;
>> END TRANSACTION;
>> ---
>
> Here's a short example to reproduce the problem:
>
> sqlite3 test.db
> create table test (name varchar(16));
> begin transaction;
> insert into test values ('test');
>

did you forget to COMMIT here?

> Now open a second shell and do this:
>
> sqlite3 test.db
> .dump
>
> This will output:
> ---
> BEGIN TRANSACTION;
> END TRANSACTION;
> ---
>
> I tested sqlite 3.5.9 on my workstation, it correctly
> dumps the table even if a transaction is open,
> only 3.6.6.2 shows this behavior so far.
>
> Is this supposed to be?
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>




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Re: [sqlite] .dump and transactions

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Jarosch
On Monday, 12. January 2009 13:52:47 P Kishor wrote:
> > Here's a short example to reproduce the problem:
> >
> > sqlite3 test.db
> > create table test (name varchar(16));
> > begin transaction;
> > insert into test values ('test');
>
> did you forget to COMMIT here?

Thanks for your reply. In fact it's the core of the problem: You can't dump a 
database if there is an open, uncommited transaction. This used to work in 
3.5.9 and is needed for creating backups of databases.

If an open transaction would block the dump of the database,
then the second command line tool should busy wait until a timeout occurs
or atleast return an error message.

Thomas

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Re: [sqlite] week number - feature request - extend strftime for ISO week?

2009-01-12 Thread MikeW
PooLpi  writes:

> 
> Thanks MikeW,
> 
> Is there a way to do strftime %W with another function.
> It don't seems to be possible with datetime.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> PooLpi

The Linux 'date' command does support %G/%g/%V referring to ISO week num,
which suggests an extension feature for ISO support.

Perhaps an SQLite feature request to add these format specifiers
would be looked on favourably, after all, there is a precedent with
%f and %J.

If using the C API, you could also create your own function to do the job
using http://www.sqlite.org/c3ref/create_function.html

Regards,
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[sqlite] Testing SQLite on embedded platform with no Tcl

2009-01-12 Thread John Efstathiades
Hello,

I am looking into porting the latest SQLite to an embedded platform running
a commercial real-time operating system. I'd like to use as much of the
existing regression test code as possible to ensure the port is correct but
unfortunately the target environment does not have Tcl. 

The host environment is Windows and we will have a host-target link (via
serial or telnet) to a CLI (a port of sqlite3) on the target. At present I
am thinking about writing scripts that send SQL over the serial link and
capture the response.

Can anyone suggest a testing approach that would allow us to make use of the
existing regression test code without having Tcl on the target system?

Should I give serious consideration to porting Tcl just to run the
regression tests?  

Thanks,
John



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Re: [sqlite] Testing SQLite on embedded platform with no Tcl

2009-01-12 Thread Michael Schlenker
John Efstathiades schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> I am looking into porting the latest SQLite to an embedded platform running
> a commercial real-time operating system. I'd like to use as much of the
> existing regression test code as possible to ensure the port is correct but
> unfortunately the target environment does not have Tcl. 
Thats rare. Tcl gets ported to really weird places. Unless its really tiny
there should be some Tcl port. Which OS are you using?

If its vxworks have a look at:
http://wiki.tcl.tk/21062
> 
> Should I give serious consideration to porting Tcl just to run the
> regression tests?  
Might be easier than the work around. Usually Tcl is pretty easy to port as
it has very few external dependencies.

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Re: [sqlite] Testing SQLite on embedded platform with no Tcl

2009-01-12 Thread D. Richard Hipp

On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:53 AM, John Efstathiades wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am looking into porting the latest SQLite to an embedded platform  
> running
> a commercial real-time operating system. I'd like to use as much of  
> the
> existing regression test code as possible to ensure the port is  
> correct but
> unfortunately the target environment does not have Tcl.
>
> The host environment is Windows and we will have a host-target link  
> (via
> serial or telnet) to a CLI (a port of sqlite3) on the target. At  
> present I
> am thinking about writing scripts that send SQL over the serial link  
> and
> capture the response.
>
> Can anyone suggest a testing approach that would allow us to make  
> use of the
> existing regression test code without having Tcl on the target system?
>
> Should I give serious consideration to porting Tcl just to run the
> regression tests?
>

One approach taken by many companies is to trust that the workstation- 
based TCL tests correctly validate SQLite and don't worry so much  
about doing complete testing on the target.  Just write a few simple  
sanity checks to make sure that it was compiled correctly and make due  
with that.

Another approach is to port TCL to your target platform.  Depending on  
your platform, this might be a small or a huge task.

The third approach is the TH3 test suite for SQLite described at 
http://www.sqlite.org/testing.html 
.  This third way is, alas, not a free option, but it is available to  
you if are using SQLite in an embedded mission-critical application  
and are uncomfortable  with either of the other two options above.

D. Richard Hipp
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[sqlite] SQLite version 3.6.8

2009-01-12 Thread D. Richard Hipp
Version 3.6.8 of SQLite is now available on the website:

 http://www.sqlite.org/

SQLite version 3.6.8 adds support for nested transactions and improved  
optimization of WHERE clauses with OR-connected terms. There is also a  
new compile-time option that changes the way full-text search patterns  
are parsed so that they can contain nested paratheses.

These are substantial changes. Even so, the release testing for SQLite  
has become so extensive that the developers have high confidence that  
this release is stable and ready for production use.

D. Richard Hipp
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[sqlite] Number precision

2009-01-12 Thread vlemaire
Hello,

As described in SQL syntax
(http://www.sqlite.org/syntaxdiagrams.html#type-name) a column type may be
declared like this :
int(x)
or float(x, y)
...

what does x and y means ? max number of digits ? max value ? max bytes
encoding ? ...

a subsidiary question is : how to specify a precision on numbers if this
syntax is not appropriated ?

Thanks,

Vincent


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Re: [sqlite] Number precision

2009-01-12 Thread D. Richard Hipp

On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:10 AM, vlema...@ausy.org wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As described in SQL syntax
> (http://www.sqlite.org/syntaxdiagrams.html#type-name) a column type  
> may be
> declared like this :
> int(x)
> or float(x, y)
> ...
>
> what does x and y means ? max number of digits ? max value ? max bytes
> encoding ? ...
>
> a subsidiary question is : how to specify a precision on numbers if  
> this
> syntax is not appropriated ?

The x and y are for compatibility with other database engines.  They  
are ignored by SQLite.  SQLite stores numbers as either (1) 64-bit  
signed integers or (2) 64-bit IEEE floating point numbers.

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vincent
>
>
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[sqlite] Is this legal SQL?

2009-01-12 Thread Mike McGonagle
Hello all,

I am working on connecting SQLite up to another programming language,
and had a question about how SQLite (or SQL in general) would handle
this...

I want to be able to create some tables dynamically (same structure,
different name), and I thought this might work...

CREATE TABLE ?1 (x double, y double);

And then I would assign '?1' to a string...

BUT, it would appear that SQLite does not like this, because when I
try to 'prepare' the SQL, it complains about "error near '?1': syntax
error"...

Is there something that I can do, short of generating the SQL
dynamically (ie allow the use of placeholders for the table name)?

Thanks,

Mike


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Re: [sqlite] Hi, a question from Colombia

2009-01-12 Thread Ribeiro, Glauber
Brazil, but living in the Chicago area of the USA since 1991. 

-Original Message-
From: MikeW [mailto:mw_p...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:35 AM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Hi, a question from Colombia

Ribeiro, Glauber  writes:

> 
> Carlos,
> 
> If you don't mind, I'll answer through the list, because there are
> people there who know much more than I do.
> 
> 
> glauber
> 
Hey, glauber, you didn't say which country you were from !
;-)

MikeW (UK)


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Re: [sqlite] Is this legal SQL?

2009-01-12 Thread John Stanton
You can only bind data elemeents.  If you want to chjange table names 
you have to recompile the SQL (think about it).

Mike McGonagle wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am working on connecting SQLite up to another programming language,
> and had a question about how SQLite (or SQL in general) would handle
> this...
>
> I want to be able to create some tables dynamically (same structure,
> different name), and I thought this might work...
>
> CREATE TABLE ?1 (x double, y double);
>
> And then I would assign '?1' to a string...
>
> BUT, it would appear that SQLite does not like this, because when I
> try to 'prepare' the SQL, it complains about "error near '?1': syntax
> error"...
>
> Is there something that I can do, short of generating the SQL
> dynamically (ie allow the use of placeholders for the table name)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>   

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.6.8

2009-01-12 Thread Darren Duncan
D. Richard Hipp wrote:
> SQLite version 3.6.8 adds support for nested transactions

This is *excellent* news!

Thank you so much for implementing nested transactions in SQLite!

As far as I was concerned, and AFAIK had argued in the past, that was the 
single 
most important piece of missing functionality.  Something whose presence can 
make reliable database development an order of magnitude easier.  Unlike some 
add-on features which could be done in wrappers, nested transactions was 
definitely something that was only appropriate to be implemented in the same 
low 
level as normal transactions in the DBMS.  Its about code being able to declare 
and have enforced at any level of granularity that a set of operations is 
atomic, as a transaction, without worrying about what calling code is doing 
with 
transactions, and making it easier to do error handling and retry/abort etc.

I'm now a step closer to being able to easily implement my Muldis D relational 
database language over SQLite.

I'll hopefully be able to start testing in a few weeks, assuming that 
DBD::SQLite et al / the Perl bindings are still functional under Mac OS X and 
Linuxen with the new version.

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Re: [sqlite] Is this legal SQL?

2009-01-12 Thread Mohd Radzi Ibrahim
You should use

sprintf(buf, "CREATE TABLE %s(x double, y double)", tableName);

then use prepare and execute using from that string.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike McGonagle" 
To: "General Discussion of SQLite Database" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:43 AM
Subject: [sqlite] Is this legal SQL?


Hello all,

I am working on connecting SQLite up to another programming language,
and had a question about how SQLite (or SQL in general) would handle
this...

I want to be able to create some tables dynamically (same structure,
different name), and I thought this might work...

CREATE TABLE ?1 (x double, y double);

And then I would assign '?1' to a string...

BUT, it would appear that SQLite does not like this, because when I
try to 'prepare' the SQL, it complains about "error near '?1': syntax
error"...

Is there something that I can do, short of generating the SQL
dynamically (ie allow the use of placeholders for the table name)?

Thanks,

Mike


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Re: [sqlite] Is this legal SQL?

2009-01-12 Thread Igor Tandetnik
Mike McGonagle  wrote:
> I want to be able to create some tables dynamically (same structure,
> different name), and I thought this might work...
>
> CREATE TABLE ?1 (x double, y double);

Parameters can only appear where a literal could legally appear.

Why do you want to create a bunch of identical tables in the first 
place? What are you trying to achieve?

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.6.8

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Dodgen
Please post back with success/failure of the Perl bindings.

Thanks Jim

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Darren Duncan wrote:

> D. Richard Hipp wrote:
> > SQLite version 3.6.8 adds support for nested transactions
>
> This is *excellent* news!
>
> Thank you so much for implementing nested transactions in SQLite!
>
> As far as I was concerned, and AFAIK had argued in the past, that was the
> single
> most important piece of missing functionality.  Something whose presence
> can
> make reliable database development an order of magnitude easier.  Unlike
> some
> add-on features which could be done in wrappers, nested transactions was
> definitely something that was only appropriate to be implemented in the
> same low
> level as normal transactions in the DBMS.  Its about code being able to
> declare
> and have enforced at any level of granularity that a set of operations is
> atomic, as a transaction, without worrying about what calling code is doing
> with
> transactions, and making it easier to do error handling and retry/abort
> etc.
>
> I'm now a step closer to being able to easily implement my Muldis D
> relational
> database language over SQLite.
>
> I'll hopefully be able to start testing in a few weeks, assuming that
> DBD::SQLite et al / the Perl bindings are still functional under Mac OS X
> and
> Linuxen with the new version.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
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Re: [sqlite] Is this legal SQL?

2009-01-12 Thread Mike McGonagle
Thanks for the advice, everyone was a help in this...

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Igor Tandetnik > Why do you want to
create a bunch of identical tables in the first
> place? What are you trying to achieve?

I am working with Multimedia stuff, and each table, while holding the
same fields, are used to represent different time frames of the larger
work.

Do you have any better suggestions? I am trying to figure out what the
best way to handle this sort of thing. While all the data is pretty
much the same, it does have different parts that come at different
times.

Thanks again,

Mike


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Re: [sqlite] Is this legal SQL?

2009-01-12 Thread Igor Tandetnik
"Mike McGonagle"  wrote
in message
news:370dda580901121949u3d2bf52ai87bfd7102cd7...@mail.gmail.com
> Thanks for the advice, everyone was a help in this...
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Igor Tandetnik > Why do you want to
> create a bunch of identical tables in the first
>> place? What are you trying to achieve?
>
> I am working with Multimedia stuff, and each table, while holding the
> same fields, are used to represent different time frames of the larger
> work.

How about

create table work(timeframe int, x double, y double);

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.6.8

2009-01-12 Thread Darren Duncan
Jim Dodgen wrote:
> Please post back with success/failure of the Perl bindings.

Yes, about that ... it seems the bindings have gotten stale and have some 
outstanding issues ... I'm hoping that someone will step up and maintain them 
... I currently lack the C experience to do it easily myself if any such 
maintenance is needed, except on an experimental basis ... I'll also try 
contacting the most recent maintainers about it. -- Darren Duncan
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.6.8

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Dodgen
I am having better luck with the amalgamation that  has been created by
Audrey Tang.
My production is still on 3.4 and testing on 3.6 with the amalgamation has
been promising

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Darren Duncan wrote:

> Jim Dodgen wrote:
> > Please post back with success/failure of the Perl bindings.
>
> Yes, about that ... it seems the bindings have gotten stale and have some
> outstanding issues ... I'm hoping that someone will step up and maintain
> them
> ... I currently lack the C experience to do it easily myself if any such
> maintenance is needed, except on an experimental basis ... I'll also try
> contacting the most recent maintainers about it. -- Darren Duncan
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite version 3.6.8

2009-01-12 Thread Darren Duncan
I have contacted both flavors' authors about the update, even offering to 
co-maintain the binding experimentally if necessary, so we'll see what happens. 
  Part of the outstanding issue is that according to some users I trust 
DBD::SQLite 1.14 introduced significant bugs that weren't in 1.13, such that 
they recommend using 1.13 instead, so there are binding-specific issues still 
to 
resolve as well.  Hence doing the update well isn't as simple as just 
substituting updated SQLite source files. -- Darren Duncan

Jim Dodgen wrote:
> I am having better luck with the amalgamation that  has been created by
> Audrey Tang.
> My production is still on 3.4 and testing on 3.6 with the amalgamation has
> been promising
> 
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Darren Duncan wrote:
> 
>> Jim Dodgen wrote:
>>> Please post back with success/failure of the Perl bindings.
>> Yes, about that ... it seems the bindings have gotten stale and have some
>> outstanding issues ... I'm hoping that someone will step up and maintain
>> them
>> ... I currently lack the C experience to do it easily myself if any such
>> maintenance is needed, except on an experimental basis ... I'll also try
>> contacting the most recent maintainers about it. -- Darren Duncan

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[sqlite] Cross compilation

2009-01-12 Thread mkrajachandru
Hello all

How can i cross compile tcl and sqlite for arm and ppc

Tahnks in advance

Chandru K
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[sqlite] Upgrade sqlite 3.3.4 to sqlite 3.6.7

2009-01-12 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Hi,

I consider upgrade sqlite 3.3.4 to sqlite 3.6.7. So, I wonder there is
any change (or problem) of file format.

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