Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)

2022-01-10 Thread RoyalScam


d6jg wrote: 
> At minimum you need to select a binary. You may be better off posting
> this is the UpnpBridge thread under 3rd Party Software. Hopefully
> someone has your amp and has it working properly. It is fiddly because
> upnp is a flaky and often badly implemented protocol.

Will do. Thanks for the help thus far. This is really becoming more
trouble than it's really worth, IMO. I just wanna cast some music. :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)

2022-01-09 Thread RoyalScam


Ok...now I'm starting to understand why people just do Roon, Sonos or
Airplay. This gets aggravating quickly.

I've got the UPnP Bridge installed, am trying to read and understand the
User Guide to get things configured, but I'm getting stuck.

1. I'd like the volume to be controlled by the Onkyo, not LMS. Ideally,
I'd like a fixed volume out of LMS, controllable at the Onkyo. If not
possible, I'd at least like the two to accurately reflect the same
volume. As it stands, the synch between the two is off. For example, LMS
Volume says "30", Onkyo says "18". They're constantly fighting with each
other. Which setting and where can accomplish this?

2. I hit play on a song in LMS, song appears to start playing, not
audible in the Onkyo. If I move the playhead to the middle of the song,
3-4 seconds later it becomes audible in the Onkyo. The at the end of the
song, the next track doesn't play. It appears "stuck" at the end of the
current track. Any setting or solution to that?

3. What is the function of the Power Button in LMS where the tracks
play? I accidentally hit that button in the middle of a track and my
Onkyo's volume immediately pinned to 100. Guessing that should always be
"On"?

Screenshots of my settings are below. Any suggestions as to changes are
welcome.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)

2022-01-09 Thread RoyalScam

d6jg wrote: 
> Just chiming in with my 2p. If you can get Phillipe’s upnpbridge
> to work with your Onkyo and you are ok controlling playback with a
> browser based plugin Material on your phone etc then that is the way to
> go.
> However. If you only what to play 16/44.1 stuff Phillipe’s Airplay
> bridge is MUCH easier to get working with an Onkyo. It will do gapless
> but the Airplay 1 protocol is 16/44.1 only.
> Also some Onkyo’s have Chromecast built in in which case there is
> also Phillipe’s cast bridge to try.
> 
> Edit. I have an Onkyo AVR which has DLNA/Airplay/Chromecast but I have a
> Pi4 based player plugged into it which is what I generally use but I
> have tested all three bridge plugins with it. The most seamless is
> definitely the Airplay bridge but I have a lot of 24bit stuff these
> days.
> 
> Edit 2. You can get a good feel for LMS’s full capability by
> upgrading iPeng on your iPad to player mode (couple of £). Plug a set of
> headphones in and your away. IPeng is one of only 2 apps that provide
> LMS PLAYBACK on an iPad but for control try the Material LMS plugin and
> use Safari on the iPad. Once open do “Add to Home Screen”.
> Other essential plugins are Music & Artist Info and Spotty/Qobuz etc

Good info/advice, thanks! Yeah, my Onkyo is the TX-8160, so no
Chromecast unfortunately, just DLNA or Airplay. It would've been a
no-brainer for anything above 16/44.1, and I suppose I could get a
used/leftover Chromecast Audio to connect to it, but I'd rather stay
with just the Onkyo.

I know Airplay would be the smoothest option. I could even simply
convert all of my FLAC to ALAC, use iTunes/Apple Music for my library
and control with the iOS Remote app, no LMS necessary. BUT...I prefer
FLAC, and I'd be stuck at 16/44.1, as you've mentioned. Nice Plan B,
though, after I've pulled my remaining hair out.

I only want to use iPeng as a remote controller to play FLACs from my
Mac to my Onkyo, so not sure the player mode is necessary. I keep
reading about the Raspberry Pi options, but I'd still prefer to not add
anything extra to my setup.

So you say Material/Safari vs iPeng for control, huh? Interesting...



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)

2022-01-08 Thread RoyalScam


philippe_44 wrote: 
> LMS is a music center system. It helps you manage your music library and
> search/play tracks, create playlists, access streaming services and so
> on. It has clients to control it from a web browser but also from your
> smartphone. Normally, players should be specialized devices named
> "squeezeboxes". They are not produced anymore by Logitech, but some
> clones can be created using a raspberry Pi and some weirdos like me have
> made "bridges" that allow airplay/chromecast/upnp players to fake a real
> squeezebox and integrate them into the LMS "ecosystem". One important
> feature of LMS is to be able to play synchronized music on multiple
> players, but that does *not* work with upnp or chromecast.
> 
> Now, if you have only one UPnP device, don't know about LMS and just
> want to organize your library, there are other solutions that are UPnP
> aware and which might be easier to use (I don't want to say better
> because I don't want to start a useless heated debate and I don't have a
> strong opinion anyway).
> 
> Using my bridge is fine, but UPnP players can be temperamental and can
> be frustrating to tweak to work well under LMS. 
> 
> Now, here you have a really good community of people that will help you.

Thanks so much, Phillipe! This should at least give me a better
understanding and a good start. The reason I might switch to LMS
permanently is that Universal Media Server doesn't have a great web app,
and no native iOS control app (other than mconnect, which is gliitchy).
Otherwise, UMS served my purpose. Plex, didn't.

So...if I understand correctly, if I wasn't going to use the library
organization or remote app element of LMS, then Andy's plugin would
basically give me similar functionality to UMS, while yours will give me
enhanced functionality (still hindered my DLNA). Have I got that right
now?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)

2022-01-07 Thread RoyalScam

philippe_44 wrote: 
> If you want to use your player as if it is a regular squeezebox, you
> need my bridge. 
> 
> If you want to use the UI of your player to browse the LMS library, you
> need Andy’s plugin.

See…I know nothing about Squeezebox. Is there an advantage or
disadvantage to using my Onkyo as a Squeezebox? What does that even
mean?



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)

2022-01-07 Thread RoyalScam


Hello, all. I'll cut to the point.

I've got a Mac filled with FLAC files. I've got an Onkyo TX-8160 stereo
network receiver. I'd like to get the two wirelessly speaking to each
other via DLNA (since my wireless choice on that receiver is either DLNA
or Airplay). I've fiddled around with Universal Media Server and Plex,
so this isn't -totally- foreign to me.

Ideally, I'd like to access my Mac/FLAC library remotely via iPeng (or
similar) on my iPad and feed the music to the Onkyo.

Where I'm confused is to which plugin I'd need to enable to accomplish
this: Andy's UPnP/DLNA Media _Interface_ or Phillipe's UPnP/DLNA Media
_Bridge_. Yes, I've searched and read a bunch of explanations...still
confused as to which and why, or if either, advantages/disadvantages.

As they say on Reddit: explain like I'm five. :o



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