Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > Did you get a chance to have a look at this Michael? > > I'm sorry, no. Have yet to figure out how to reproduce this timeout. > > -- > > MichaelI use Hd-idle to allow my HDD to sleep on my Pi. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Did you get a chance to have a look at this Michael? I'm sorry, no. Have yet to figure out how to reproduce this timeout. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > From further experiments the artwork falls a track behind after the > > first Spotify track in a playlist which is long enough to allow the > HDD > > to sleep. If another long Spotify track appears later in the playlist > > then the artwork does not fall further behind but remains a single > track > > behind. > > That might explain why I've never seen it on my dev system: it's all > SSD. But it wouldn't explain why I saw it on my main system (with the > "ghost" track), as that's a busy NAS which never puts disks to sleep. > That said I've seen slow response times when it's really busy. > > The other system OTOH is an old NAS connected to pCP. That one would go > to sleep. I'll give that a try for more reproducible results. > > -- > > MichaelDid you get a chance to have a look at this Michael? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > @mherger have you fixed this? I just tried playing a 12 minute Spotify > song inserted in a local playlist and it seems to update the track info > now. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkHmm maybe not, I just tried a 6 minute > track and suffered the issue again. Strange that the 11 minute track didn't trigger it. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
@mherger have you fixed this? I just tried playing a 12 minute Spotify song inserted in a local playlist and it seems to update the track info now. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > > Obviously in normal use if I start a new playlist when the HDD is > sleeping the artwork and track info of the first track is correct so why > is that situation different to this one? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I have wondered about this, too. I don't recall any problems with a cold start. There was a delay while the disk spun up before music started playing, but LMS never lost its place in that situation. LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > From further experiments the artwork falls a track behind after the > > first Spotify track in a playlist which is long enough to allow the > HDD > > to sleep. If another long Spotify track appears later in the playlist > > then the artwork does not fall further behind but remains a single > track > > behind. > > That might explain why I've never seen it on my dev system: it's all > SSD. But it wouldn't explain why I saw it on my main system (with the > "ghost" track), as that's a busy NAS which never puts disks to sleep. > That said I've seen slow response times when it's really busy. > > The other system OTOH is an old NAS connected to pCP. That one would go > to sleep. I'll give that a try for more reproducible results. > > -- > > MichaelBefore the HDD sleep theory was mentioned I was doing some testing on a Windows 10 server with local music on the internal HDD and couldn't trigger the issue by adding Spotify tracks which makes sense as the HDD wouldn't be sleeping. On the Pi I can see the HDD waking up before the end of the Spotify track. Obviously in normal use if I start a new playlist when the HDD is sleeping the artwork and track info of the first track is correct so why is that situation different to this one? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
From further experiments the artwork falls a track behind after the first Spotify track in a playlist which is long enough to allow the HDD to sleep. If another long Spotify track appears later in the playlist then the artwork does not fall further behind but remains a single track behind. That might explain why I've never seen it on my dev system: it's all SSD. But it wouldn't explain why I saw it on my main system (with the "ghost" track), as that's a busy NAS which never puts disks to sleep. That said I've seen slow response times when it's really busy. The other system OTOH is an old NAS connected to pCP. That one would go to sleep. I'll give that a try for more reproducible results. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > From further experiments the artwork falls a track behind after the > first Spotify track in a playlist which is long enough to allow the HDD > to sleep. If another long Spotify track appears later in the playlist > then the artwork does not fall further behind but remains a single track > behind. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I'm sorry I didn't remember the details of my experience earlier, but it was part of a larger problem that was resolved some time ago, It was no longer on my mind. Thinking about it now, I think I sometimes experienced the out of sync display after playing a very long track from my collection, like a Beethoven symphony movement or an Allman Brothers jam. That's what led me to speculate that the file was being read in advance and the drive might not be accessed for many minutes, until the next track was needed. LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I think you have hit the nail on the head. I changed the timeout to 5 > > minutes from 3 minutes and now the artwork etc changes correctly at > the > > end of the track I was using for testing. It also explains why if the > > following track was also from Spotify then the artwork fell behind > when > > the local tracks resumed. It does seem that this is exposing a bug in > > LMS which can also occur when only local music is played but much less > > frequently. > > You're saying that the issue could arise when LMS timed out loading a > track or something? > > That wouldn't explain the case I've seen where it was playing a track > which wasn't even shown in the playlist. Have you ever seen this? > > -- > > MichaelFrom further experiments the artwork falls a track behind after the first Spotify track in a playlist which is long enough to allow the HDD to sleep. If another long Spotify track appears later in the playlist then the artwork does not fall further behind but remains a single track behind. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
RobbH wrote: > It used to be that I sometimes found that what LMS indicated was Now > Playing was wrong. I can't be sure about the details, but I think it was > as slartibartfast has described it. It hasn't happened lately, and I > think it stopped happening when I switched from a mechanical HDD to > SSD. > > I was thinking that LMS reads ahead and caches the current track as it > plays, so that it may not access the disk where the library is stored > for some time. And it's not accessing the disk while playing online > tracks. My not-very-educated guess was that the library disk would spin > down until LMS attempts to read the next track. At that point, there > would be a delay while the disk spins up before LMS starts receiving any > data, leading LMS to "think" that the play command has failed and it > needs to play the next track instead. With absolutely no knowledge of > the internal workings, that's as far as my imagination can go. > > I do not think I have ever seen LMS play a track that does not appear in > the playlist.LMS always plays the correct track but displays the same artwork > and info for two consecutive tracks causing the artwork to be a track behind the playback from that moment on. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I think you have hit the nail on the head. I changed the timeout to 5 > > minutes from 3 minutes and now the artwork etc changes correctly at > the > > end of the track I was using for testing. It also explains why if the > > following track was also from Spotify then the artwork fell behind > when > > the local tracks resumed. It does seem that this is exposing a bug in > > LMS which can also occur when only local music is played but much > less > > frequently. > > You're saying that the issue could arise when LMS timed out loading a > track or something? > > That wouldn't explain the case I've seen where it was playing a track > which wasn't even shown in the playlist. Have you ever seen this? > > -- > > Michael It used to be that I sometimes found that what LMS indicated was Now Playing was wrong. I can't be sure about the details, but I think it was as slartibartfast has described it. It hasn't happened lately, and I think it stopped happening when I switched from a mechanical HDD to SSD. I was thinking that LMS reads ahead and caches the current track as it plays, so that it may not access the disk where the library is stored for some time. And it's not accessing the disk while playing online tracks. My not-very-educated guess was that the library disk would spin down until LMS attempts to read the next track. At that point, there would be a delay while the disk spins up before LMS starts receiving any data, leading LMS to "think" that the play command has failed and it needs to play the next track instead. With absolutely no knowledge of the internal workings, that's as far as my imagination can go. I do not think I have ever seen LMS play a track that does not appear in the playlist. LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I think you have hit the nail on the head. I changed the timeout to 5 > > minutes from 3 minutes and now the artwork etc changes correctly at > the > > end of the track I was using for testing. It also explains why if the > > following track was also from Spotify then the artwork fell behind > when > > the local tracks resumed. It does seem that this is exposing a bug in > > LMS which can also occur when only local music is played but much less > > frequently. > > You're saying that the issue could arise when LMS timed out loading a > track or something? > > That wouldn't explain the case I've seen where it was playing a track > which wasn't even shown in the playlist. Have you ever seen this? > > -- > > Michael I have never seen the situation you describe but I have seen the same issue of artwork falling behind when I left a random playlist of local tracks playing overnight when I wouldn't expect the drive to sleep. In the case of the Spotify tracks the drive wakes up and the next track plays but LMS doesn't fetch the artwork. It also does not seem to fall any further behind than one track even when other Spotify tracks are in the playlist. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I think you have hit the nail on the head. I changed the timeout to 5 minutes from 3 minutes and now the artwork etc changes correctly at the end of the track I was using for testing. It also explains why if the following track was also from Spotify then the artwork fell behind when the local tracks resumed. It does seem that this is exposing a bug in LMS which can also occur when only local music is played but much less frequently. You're saying that the issue could arise when LMS timed out loading a track or something? That wouldn't explain the case I've seen where it was playing a track which wasn't even shown in the playlist. Have you ever seen this? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
RobbH wrote: > Where is your local music stored? Is it possible that it's on a drive > that spins down after a period of not being used? And could it be that > some Spotify tracks are long enough for the drive to spin down?I think you > have hit the nail on the head. I changed the timeout to 5 minutes from 3 minutes and now the artwork etc changes correctly at the end of the track I was using for testing. It also explains why if the following track was also from Spotify then the artwork fell behind when the local tracks resumed. It does seem that this is exposing a bug in LMS which can also occur when only local music is played but much less frequently. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
RobbH wrote: > Where is your local music stored? Is it possible that it's on a drive > that spins down after a period of not being used? And could it be that > some Spotify tracks are long enough for the drive to spin down?Local music is > on a HDD plugged into the Pi. This isn't only an issue with Spotify tracks it just appears to happen a lot more frequently with them. Having said that the drive does spin down during the Spotify tracks so there could be something in that. I will try changing the timeout and see what happens. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > If I hit previous track then the previous track plays with correct > artwork. In normal operation when music and artwork/info is in sync > hitting previous track once restarts the current track and hitting next > track plays the next track so this behaviour changes when the > artwork/info falls behind. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Where is your local music stored? Is it possible that it's on a drive that spins down after a period of not being used? And could it be that some Spotify tracks are long enough for the drive to spin down? LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > When the artwork etc has fallen one track behind if I hit the next track > icon then the currently playing track restarts but with the correct > artwork and info. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkIf I hit previous track then the previous > track plays with correct artwork. In normal operation when music and artwork/info is in sync hitting previous track once restarts the current track and hitting next track plays the next track so this behaviour changes when the artwork/info falls behind. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
When the artwork etc has fallen one track behind if I hit the next track icon then the currently playing track restarts but with the correct artwork and info. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > Hah! Now it's playing a track I can't even see in the queue! I wonder > whether there's some race condition between removing and adding > tracks... > > I can even switch back and forth between this title and next/previous. > I'd > consistently get to hear that "invisible" track. And as it's not visible > in the list > there's obviously a one-off for the following tracks. > > player.playlist might be a logging flag helpful to get to the ground of > this. > > -- > > MichaelI tried turning off the function where a new track is added after a track has played and I still see the issue so probably not a race condition. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Hah! Now it's playing a track I can't even see in the queue! I wonder whether there's some race condition between removing and adding tracks... -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I tried this again today. Five times I started a random mix and added a Spotify track as the second track. Four times the artwork and track info fell one track behind after the Spotify track and the other time the artwork etc fell a track behind after the third track which also happened to be a Spotify track. If I knew what to log it should be easy to isolate this issue but nothing seems to be relevant. Any ideas Michael? Unfortunately I still have no idea what to log. But I was wondering whether this was related to when new tracks are being added (or played removed). I was able to reproduce it now with a little patience. I think the problem occured when RandomPlay added new tracks. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I tried this again today. Five times I started a random mix and added a Spotify track as the second track. Four times the artwork and track info fell one track behind after the Spotify track and the other time the artwork etc fell a track behind after the third track which also happened to be a Spotify track. If I knew what to log it should be easy to isolate this issue but nothing seems to be relevant. Any ideas Michael? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Another strange thing is I have never seen it fall two tracks behind. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I think the best way to trigger it is > > 1 Start a random song mix > > 2 Add a Spotify track as the next track > > 3 Let it play > > I tried this today twice, but haven't seen the issue (yet). > > That said: I do remember having seen similar issues in the past. I > hardly use Random Play nowadays. And I've never been able to reproduce > it. It was rare enough to not trigger more interest in me :-) > > -- > > Michael i tried this twice and the second time the issue occurred. I have attached a short video of the track change. I have also seen this happen on a random playlist without Spotify tracks. Leave a random mix running overnight and you are likely to see the issue. Spotify tracks seem to increase the probability. What can I log to catch this? +---+ |Filename: 20200803_103730_Trim.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31185| +---+ slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I think the best way to trigger it is > > 1 Start a random song mix > > 2 Add a Spotify track as the next track > > 3 Let it play > > I tried this today twice, but haven't seen the issue (yet). > > That said: I do remember having seen similar issues in the past. I > hardly use Random Play nowadays. And I've never been able to reproduce > it. It was rare enough to not trigger more interest in me :-) > > -- > > MichaelI have seen it happen after DSTM kicks in. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I think the best way to trigger it is > > 1 Start a random song mix > > 2 Add a Spotify track as the next track > > 3 Let it play > > I tried this today twice, but haven't seen the issue (yet). > > That said: I do remember having seen similar issues in the past. I > hardly use Random Play nowadays. And I've never been able to reproduce > it. It was rare enough to not trigger more interest in me :-) > > -- > > MichaelAnything I can log? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I think the best way to trigger it is 1 Start a random song mix 2 Add a Spotify track as the next track 3 Let it play I tried this today twice, but haven't seen the issue (yet). That said: I do remember having seen similar issues in the past. I hardly use Random Play nowadays. And I've never been able to reproduce it. It was rare enough to not trigger more interest in me :-) -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > I can't reproduce this. Are there more conditions, like whether the > > track needs to be placed at the end of the list, or anywhere? Spotify > > only? Would it work if you skipped through the tracks, or would I have > > > to play them out? > > Ok, just skimmed the whole discussion one more time. Many of these > questions have been answered before - with contradictory information... > > Letting a mix play now, to see whether it happens. > > -- > > MichaelI t actually happened again yesterday while just letting a mix play. > The first Spotify track didn't trigger it but the second did. I think the best way to trigger it is 1 Start a random song mix 2 Add a Spotify track as the next track 3 Let it play Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I can't reproduce this. Are there more conditions, like whether the track needs to be placed at the end of the list, or anywhere? Spotify only? Would it work if you skipped through the tracks, or would I have to play them out? Ok, just skimmed the whole discussion one more time. Many of these questions have been answered before - with contradictory information... Letting a mix play now, to see whether it happens. -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Michael if you get a chance can you have a look at this? If I insert a Spotify track in a random mix playlist the artwork and track info does not change after the Spotify track plays so the next track shows the same info as the Spotify track. From then on the artwork and info are one track out. I can't reproduce this. Are there more conditions, like whether the track needs to be placed at the end of the list, or anywhere? Spotify only? Would it work if you skipped through the tracks, or would I have to play them out? Basically: can you give step-by-step instructions how you can reproduce this the simplest way? -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
mherger wrote: > > Michael if you get a chance can you have a look at this? If I insert a > > I will. But it's busy times here... > > -- > > MichaelI know [emoji3]. Can I log anything useful? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Michael if you get a chance can you have a look at this? If I insert a I will. But it's busy times here... -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Michael if you get a chance can you have a look at this? If I insert a Spotify track in a random mix playlist the artwork and track info does not change after the Spotify track plays so the next track shows the same info as the Spotify track. From then on the artwork and info are one track out. What can I log to try to isolate this problem? I have also seen this happen during a random mix playlist with no Spotify tracks but that is much more rare. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
tw99 wrote: > Tried letting it play all the way through the first 3 tracks and didn't > see the problem. Not doubting you're seeing it, but maybe it needs > Michael to look at the logs to see if he can suggest something. Here is a very short video showing the issue.3 +---+ |Filename: 20200723_124715.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31112| +---+ slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
tw99 wrote: > Tried letting it play all the way through the first 3 tracks and didn't > see the problem. Not doubting you're seeing it, but maybe it needs > Michael to look at the logs to see if he can suggest something.That's the > problem. I don't know what to log. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > I tried fast forwarding the Spotify track and the issue didn't occur for > me either but allowing the track to play to the end triggered the issue. > So if you want to try again... [emoji3] > > Tried letting it play all the way through the first 3 tracks and didn't see the problem. Not doubting you're seeing it, but maybe it needs Michael to look at the logs to see if he can suggest something. tw99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51684 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
tw99 wrote: > I just had a try a couple of times, and can't reproduce it. LMS 8 dated > sometime in May, builtin Random Mix. Start a "Song" playlist, first > track from my local library starts playing. I then select a Spotify > track as "Play Next". I didn't see the problem, although admittedly I > didn't let the songs play all the way through, but ffwd'd to near the > end. I tried fast forwarding the Spotify track and the issue didn't occur for me either but allowing the track to play to the end triggered the issue. So if you want to try again... [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > I just tried again this morning adding a Spotify track as the second > track in a Random Mix playlist and it triggered the issue. I am using > the latest LMS 8.0.0 on a Pi4. Try using the built-in Random Mix of you > can. It would be strange if the issue was unique to Random Mix but you > never know. > I just had a try a couple of times, and can't reproduce it. LMS 8 dated sometime in May, builtin Random Mix. Start a "Song" playlist, first track from my local library starts playing. I then select a Spotify track as "Play Next". I didn't see the problem, although admittedly I didn't let the songs play all the way through, but ffwd'd to near the end. tw99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51684 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
RobbH wrote: > I still have not been able to make this happen. Adding Spotify tracks to > a random playlist isn't doing it for me. It may be worth noting that I > now use Erland's Dynamic Playlists plugin to make random mixes. It's > been some time since I used the built-in Random Mix, and I did sometimes > get the displaced Now Playing indicator back then. I just tried again this morning adding a Spotify track as the second track in a Random Mix playlist and it triggered the issue. I am using the latest LMS 8.0.0 on a Pi4. Try using the built-in Random Mix of you can. It would be strange if the issue was unique to Random Mix but you never know. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I still have not been able to make this happen. Adding Spotify tracks to a random playlist isn't doing it for me. It may be worth noting that I now use Erland's Dynamic Playlists plugin to make random mixes. It's been some time since I used the built-in Random Mix, and I did sometimes get the displaced Now Playing indicator back then. LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I seem to be able to trigger this issue by starting to play a random mix (songs) playlist and then inserting a Spotify track in the playlist ( I used "play next"). The artwork and track info do not change after the Spotify track. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Is the artwork in the queue of songs to be played also wrong when the > playing track is out of sync ? I have another log, this time from a playlist with Spotify tracks included. I have attached a jpg of the playlist queue which shows track times. As well as the server log another file shows a version of the server log filtered on (Slim::Music::Info). The metadata and artwork fall one track behind after the Spotify track by Arcade Fire. This track should be followed by Spock's Beard after 6:29 minutes but you can see that Spock's Beard info isn't requested until 13:35 minutes after the Spotify track. +---+ |Filename: tracks.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31107| +---+ slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
RobbH wrote: > I did not respond to this thread at first, because I did not recognize > that it concerned a problem I've had. And I'm still not certain. So > please pardon me if I'm off base. > > In the past, there have been times when the "now playing" icon (a pair > of beamed eighth notes or quavers in the default interface, a play > button in Material) consistently appeared on the wrong track in the > current playlist. It was consistently off by one, but I do not remember > if it was the previous track or the next track. I also do not remember > if the information in the player panel above the playlist was also > incorrect, although I think it was. > > This has not happened recently and so far I have not been able to > reproduce it now. I don't know when this last happened, but it may have > been before I switched from LMS 7.9.2 to 8. > > I used to assume that it was related to networking issues caused by my > use of powerline networking. The displacement sometimes occurred after a > brief interruption in playback, which I assumed was caused by some sort > of network problem. It would also sometimes occur after I paused > playback and then restarted it immediately. > > Sorry that this is very vague, but I hope it may be worth reporting in > case it has any bearing on the current issue. It sounds like the same issue. If you want to try to trigger it try a playlist with Spotify tracks included. They "seem" to make it more likely. Any extra feedback is welcome. slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I did not respond to this thread at first, because I did not recognize that concerned a problem I've had. And I'm still not certain. So please pardon me if I'm off base. In the past, there have been times when the "now playing" icon (a pair of beamed eighth notes or quavers in the default interface, a play button in Material) consistently appeared on the wrong track in the current playlist. It was consistently off by one, but I do not remember if it was the previous track or the next track. I also do not remember if the information in the player panel above the playlist was also incorrect, although I think it was. This has not happened recently and so far I have not been able to reproduce it now. I don't know when this last happened, but it may have been before I switched from LMS 7.9.2 to 8. I used to assume that it was related to networking issues caused by my use of powerline networking. The displacement sometimes occurred after a brief interruption in playback, which I assumed was caused by some sort of network problem. It would also sometimes occur after I paused playback and then restarted it immediately. Sorry that this is very vague, but I hope it may be worth reporting in case it has any bearing on the current issue. LMS 8 nightly; 3 Squeezelite players connected by powerline ethernet; 5 wireless players connected via Airplay Bridge; 1 SqueezeAmp player no high-end or esoteric audio gear 1 Squeezebox Radio (upgraded UE Smart Radio) now mostly retired RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I am sure I am not logging the correct information needed to know what is going on here. There must be a way to log the info that the now playing screen displays but I have no idea how to do that. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Is the artwork in the queue of songs to be played also wrong when the > playing track is out of sync ?The artwork in the queue is always correct but > the now playing indicator in the queue is shown against the track before the playing track. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > I am not sure I understand what you mean. The Gotye track and Silvio > Rodriguez were in sync and The Raconteurs and Pavel Sporcl were out of > sync. When the Raconteurs track was playing the WebUI was showing China > Crisis. Is the artwork in the queue of songs to be played also wrong when the playing track is out of sync ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > This sounds like a different problem or a different manifestation > Originally - artwork & metadata for the playing track was out of sync > with the playing track. Artwork & metadata was for a played track. > This is saying in a playlist (queued but not playing) artwork is out of > sync with metadata and tracks in playlist. I am not sure I understand what you mean. The Gotye track and Silvio Rodriguez were in sync and The Raconteurs and Pavel Sporcl were out of sync. When the Raconteurs track was playing the WebUI was showing China Crisis. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > I finally had another occurrence with a Random Mix Song playlist. I hope > this server log shows something. The first couple of songs have correect > artwork, the final two definitely don't. This sounds like a different problem or a different manifestation Originally - artwork & metadata for the playing track was out of sync with the playing track. Artwork & metadata was for a played track. This is saying in a playlist (queued but not playing) artwork is out of sync with metadata and tracks in playlist. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Not really, all metadata is taken from a saved "$url" variable which may > be a real URL or a trackid object - this is just restating the problem, > the object that is being played is out of sync which url/object > providing metadata. I finally had another occurrence with a Random Mix Song playlist. I hope this server log shows something. The first couple of songs have correect artwork, the final two definitely don't. +---+ |Filename: playlist.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31100| +---+ slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I did reboot the Touch before the latest test as it was approaching the 24 day watchdog limit if that makes any difference. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
atrocity wrote: > I've noticed that as well, the issue is global. > > While I've definitely had this happen over the years, it doesn't happen > to me anywhere near as often as it happens to you. And while I most > closely associate the problem with playing on a Touch, I *think* I may > have seen it on a Pi running Squeezelite and JiveLite, but it's been a > long time and I can't swear to it. > > In my situation, it's always been while playing files from my own > library, and most of mine are FLAC. One time that really stands out was > when playing the 3-CD live Crowded House set several years ago. I had > fallen asleep, and woke up to hear that gapless playback was very > obviously gone. Everything should flow on that album, but didn't. The > artwork and metadata was also consistently one song behind. I had > specifically played that album, it wasn't randomly put on the playlist > by any of the available options for doing so. > > Most nights I use TrackStat + CustomSkip to play Never Played Albums all > night long on a Pi. So the playlists are large and the music continuous, > but as I say, I don't tend to see the problem there and can't be sure > that I ever have. It's definitely happened repeatedly on the Touch, > though. > > The fact that others have pointed out that skipping "forward", which > actually restarts the currently playing track, fixes the problem > certainly makes me think that all of us seeing this are seeing exactly > the same issue. > > Frankly, if this happened to me as often as it does to you, it would be > an absolute deal-breaker.It happens often when I play long playlists but it > isn't something I generally do. I am doing it now to try to isolate this issue. As I write my Touch has been playing for 3.5 hours with no issue. With one playlist including Spotify tracks the issue occurred after the first track. From the limited testing so far it seems to happen more quickly if Spotify tracks are included but it could just be coincidence. I was hoping that the overnight playlist of albums would be issue free which would have supported my Spotify theory but it wasn't to be. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > The incorrect artwork and metadata is common across all interfaces. > WebUI and Touch display are both affected if that means anything. I've noticed that as well, the issue is global. While I've definitely had this happen over the years, it doesn't happen to me anywhere near as often as it happens to you. And while I most closely associate the problem with playing on a Touch, I *think* I may have seen it on a Pi running Squeezelite and JiveLite, but it's been a long time and I can't swear to it. In my situation, it's always been while playing files from my own library, and most of mine are FLAC. One time that really stands out was when playing the 3-CD live Crowded House set several years ago. I had fallen asleep, and woke up to hear that gapless playback was very obviously gone. Everything should flow on that album, but didn't. The artwork and metadata was also consistently one song behind. I had specifically played that album, it wasn't randomly put on the playlist by any of the available options for doing so. Most nights I use TrackStat + CustomSkip to play Never Played Albums all night long on a Pi. So the playlists are large and the music continuous, but as I say, I don't tend to see the problem there and can't be sure that I ever have. It's definitely happened repeatedly on the Touch, though. The fact that others have pointed out that skipping "forward", which actually restarts the currently playing track, fixes the problem certainly makes me think that all of us seeing this are seeing exactly the same issue. Frankly, if this happened to me as often as it does to you, it would be an absolute deal-breaker. atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Where I am right ow I only have access to LMS 7.9.2. I have just started a repeatable test using .cue file - of course, I don't know yet if the issue will happen again or if making it happen with a .cue is the same underlying problem as others are seeing via different methods. Anyone can try the same thing ... I downloaded a 1 hour mp3 file https://github.com/anars/blank-audio/blob/master/1-hour-of-silence.mp3 and then created a .cue file to sit alongside it - and then did a scan for new music 1-hour-of-silence.cue contents below. If you start it playing on the hour then you should see the track name (Section nn) chaning where nn is the same as the number of minutes that the test has been running (starts from 00 and ends at 59) PERFORMER "Test Artist" FILE "1-hour-of-silence.mp3" MP3 TITLE "1 Hour of Silence" TRACK 01 AUDIO TITLE "Section 00" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 000:00:00 TRACK 02 AUDIO TITLE "Section 01" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 001:00:00 TRACK 03 AUDIO TITLE "Section 02" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 002:00:00 TRACK 04 AUDIO TITLE "Section 03" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 003:00:00 TRACK 05 AUDIO TITLE "Section 04" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 004:00:00 TRACK 06 AUDIO TITLE "Section 05" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 005:00:00 TRACK 07 AUDIO TITLE "Section 06" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 006:00:00 TRACK 08 AUDIO TITLE "Section 07" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 007:00:00 TRACK 09 AUDIO TITLE "Section 08" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 008:00:00 TRACK 10 AUDIO TITLE "Section 09" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 009:00:00 TRACK 11 AUDIO TITLE "Section 10" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 010:00:00 TRACK 12 AUDIO TITLE "Section 11" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 011:00:00 TRACK 13 AUDIO TITLE "Section 12" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 012:00:00 TRACK 14 AUDIO TITLE "Section 13" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 013:00:00 TRACK 15 AUDIO TITLE "Section 14" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 014:00:00 TRACK 16 AUDIO TITLE "Section 15" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 015:00:00 TRACK 17 AUDIO TITLE "Section 16" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 016:00:00 TRACK 18 AUDIO TITLE "Section 17" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 017:00:00 TRACK 19 AUDIO TITLE "Section 18" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 018:00:00 TRACK 20 AUDIO TITLE "Section 19" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 019:00:00 TRACK 21 AUDIO TITLE "Section 20" PERFORMER "Test Artist" INDEX 01 020:00:00 Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Not really, all metadata is taken from a saved "$url" variable which may > be a real URL or a trackid object - this is just restating the problem, > the object that is being played is out of sync which url/object > providing metadata.There appears to be no way to log what we need to know. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > The incorrect artwork and metadata is common across all interfaces. > WebUI and Touch display are both affected if that means anything Not really, all metadata is taken from a saved "$url" variable which may be a real URL or a trackid object - this is just restating the problem, the object that is being played is out of sync which url/object providing metadata. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Not sure, maybe more for scanning than playing. > > StreamingController.pm which uses logging player.source - controls which > song is played next and starts it playing. For remote streams - metadata > display queries what song/track is playing to get info to display so I'm > guessing same is true for files/playlist > > player.source to DEBUG should show when a new track is selected to be > played. metadata update should happen afterwards and driven by UI (I.e. > SB receiver nothing, SB3 is different to WebUI is different to Touch) . > > I think all player UI use getCurrentTitle > > I'm going around in circles - my knowledge of this area is limited. I > think more details of when it happens is needed as it is probably a > subtle bug and so harder to find.The incorrect artwork and metadata is common > across all interfaces. WebUI and Touch display are both affected if that means anything. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Not sure, maybe more for scanning than playing. > > StreamingController.pm which uses logging player.source - controls which > song is played next and starts it playing. For remote streams - metadata > display queries what song/track is playing to get info to display so I'm > guessing same is true for files/playlist > > player.source to DEBUG should show when a new track is selected to be > played. metadata update should happen afterwards and driven by UI (I.e. > SB receiver nothing, SB3 is different to WebUI is different to Touch) . > > I think all player UI use getCurrentTitle > > I'm going around in circles - my knowledge of this area is limited. I > think more details of when it happens is needed as it is probably a > subtle bug and so harder to find.When it happens is hard to pin down. At > first I thought it was somehow related to Spotify files in the playlist but after playing random albums all night that was a red herring. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > How about "formats.audio" File metadata & Audio Parsing Information? Not sure, maybe more for scanning than playing. StreamingController.pm which uses logging player.source - controls which song is played next and starts it playing. For remote streams - metadata display queries what song/track is playing to get info to display so I'm guessing same is true for files/playlist player.source to DEBUG should show when a new track is selected to be played. metadata update should happen afterwards and driven by UI (I.e. SB receiver nothing, SB3 is different to WebUI is different to Touch) . I think all player UI use getCurrentTitle I'm going around in circles - my knowledge of this area is limited. I think more details of when it happens is needed as it is probably a subtle bug and so harder to find. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > Looks like these routines are used to support plugins. Not core LMS file > playing.How about "formats.audio" File metadata & Audio Parsing Information? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > If you want to check the logging the routines which related to changing > metadata data title - use logging database.info to "INFO" . I think > they are used for files as well as remote. Looks like these routines are used to support plugins. Not core LMS file playing. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > Track could be any type or length. When I said out of sync I meant that > at a transition between two tracks the new track will start playing but > the track info and artwork are still from the previous track. From there > on the info and artwork change at track transitions but are always for > the previous track (like the old Two Ronnies Mastermind sketch > [emoji3]). So for the duration of the playlist, all metadata is out of step - then it is very unlikely to be the delayed title code but it cannot rule out If you want to check the logging the routines which related to changing metadata data title - use logging database.info to "INFO" . I think they are used for files as well as remote. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > long or short track - e.g. pop music, classical movements ? > > Codec ? > > Out of sync by how much ? 30 secs ? 2mins 10 mins ? > > If the sync difference is of the order of the internal buffer size (e.g. > many minutes for 32kbps MP3, few minutes for Flac or WAV, SB3 vs Touch) > and it feels like "setDelayedTitle" would be the first place to add a > log message to see what it has estimated. > > edit: > > Is it both title, other metadata or just artwork ? Track could be any type or length. When I said out of sync I meant that at a transition between two tracks the new track will start playing but the track info and artwork are still from the previous track. From there on the info and artwork change at track transitions but are always for the previous track (like the old Two Ronnies Mastermind sketch [emoji3]). Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Paul Webster wrote: > For me with long mp3 (128k) and split with .cue files (radio show) ... > once it gets out of sync it seems to remain exactly one track out > I.e. the info changes when the new track starts but it is one behind > what is playing. > Hitting next brings it back in sync (audio for the track restarts ... > although I presume this is because LMS thinks it is jumping forward to > the next track). If it has happened with a specific long MP3 + cue - does it happen every time ? or is it occasional (i.e. there is another factor TBD) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
For me with long mp3 (128k) and split with .cue files (radio show) ... once it gets out of sync it seems to remain exactly one track out I.e. the info changes when the new track starts but it is one behind what is playing. Hitting next brings it back in sync (audio for the track restarts ... although I presume this is because LMS thinks it is jumping forward to the next track). Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > The track info falls one track behind the playing track. I have never > seen it fall further behind. I turned on info logging for "artwork > display and matching" and "player source" but maybe there is a better > option as the track info and artwork are both affected. long or short track - e.g. pop music, classical movements ? Codec ? Out of sync by how much ? 30 secs ? 2mins 10 mins ? If the sync difference is of the order of the internal buffer size (e..g many minutes for 32kbps MP3, few minutes for Flac or WAV) and it feels like "setDelayedTitle" would be the first place to add a log message to see what it has estimated. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > If you characteristise the problem - it will be easier to find. > How much is it out of sync ? Is art ahead of track or track ahead of art > ? > It's been a long time since I looked at that part of the code but IIRC - > LMS has to estimate how much audio "time" is left in a buffer to delay > before showing the artwork asspociated with data being sent to the > player. This estimation was based on data rate - not sure if that > delay was only for remote streams or it included playlists.The track info > falls one track behind the playing track. I have never seen it fall further behind. I turned on info logging for "artwork display and matching" and "player source" but maybe there is a better option as the track info and artwork are both affected. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
philchillbill wrote: > Interesting. I wonder if that could be tweaked for the situation where > LMS is streaming to an Amazon Echo as audio sink. I cannot display the > artwork of the currently-playing track because the large buffer in the > Echo causes a big sync issue and I chose to display no metadata rather > than badly-wrong metadata. Any idea if LMS could be tamed in its hunger > to fill awaiting buffers? This is way OT - I think belongs in a different thread. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
bpa wrote: > If you characteristise the problem - it will be easier to find. > How much is it out of sync ? Is art ahead of track or track ahead of art > ? > It's been a long time since I looked at that part of the code but IIRC - > LMS has to estimate how much audio "time" is left in a buffer to delay > before showing the artwork asspociated with data being sent to the > player. This estimation was based on data rate - not sure if that > delay was only for remote streams or it included playlists. Interesting. I wonder if that could be tweaked for the situation where LMS is streaming to an Amazon Echo as audio sink. I cannot display the artwork of the currently-playing track because the large buffer in the Echo causes a big sync issue and I chose to display no metadata rather than badly-wrong metadata. Any idea if LMS could be tamed in its hunger to fill awaiting buffers? philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
If you characteristise the problem - it will be easier to find. How much is it out of sync ? Is art ahead of track or track ahead of art ? It's been a long time since I looked at that part of the code but IIRC - LMS has to estimate how much audio "time" is left in a buffer to delay before showing the artwork asspociated with data being sent to the player. This estimation was based on data rate. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I have done some more experimenting with playlists the most recent was leaving a random mix of albums playing overnight and sure enough by the morning the track information and artwork were one track before the playing track. I can only think that this is an issue that will always occur given enough time and the only reason it doesn't often happen when playing a single album is pure luck. Hopefully @mherger can have a look at this issue when he returns [emoji1696] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
After it happened again tonight during a Random Mix playlist I am beginning to think it will happen with every similar playlist and the only reason I rarely see it is because I normally play albums. Any idea which logging I can turn on to investigate further? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
atrocity wrote: > I've seen it, definitely. And although you may not notice if you aren't > listening to something where it matters, when this happens to me it also > destroys gapless playback. > > I've fixed it in the past by skipping forward, which actually restarts > the currently playing track. > > It's happened off and on for years but it's rare and I've never seen it > put anything useful in the log.For me it seems to happen more with playlists > generated by "Don't Stop The Music" but I have sometimes noticed unexpected gaps between tracks. I'll pay more attention next time it happens. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
slartibartfast wrote: > Has anyone ever figured out why artwork can sometimes become out of sync > when playing a playlist? It doesn't happen very often but when it does > it annoys me enough to make me stop the playlist and restart it to > regain sync. I've seen it, definitely. And although you may not notice if you aren't listening to something where it matters, when this happens to me it also destroys gapless playback. I've fixed it in the past by skipping forward, which actually restarts the currently playing track. It's happened off and on for years but it's rare and I've never seen it put anything useful in the log. atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
I see it sometimes when I play a long mp3 that is split up virtually using a .cue file When it happens, if I click Next track then it starts playing the track that was already playing but from the start and with the correct info shown. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
Does nobody else see this? It isn't just the artwork but all of the track info shown on the now playing screen is for the previous track. I am sure I have seen this same issue mentioned on the forum before. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Track artwork out of sync
When I say it doesn't happen very often it has happened twice in my current playlist. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112623 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
