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To all members of sslivesteam colegroup my sincere Apologia to all for my comments here! Walt right this site is for are enjoyment of live steam to discuss chat even yell if need be but the content always should be about are great hobby live steam small scale locomotives hobby! am sorry Guys Walt comments hit to close to home here Sorry to vent steam i must have had my head up my caboose last nit, Walt just one more little comment here i do have little back ground to having BA in education and former high school teacher and football coach moreover my father was employed by the Santa Fe RR in Colorado for 28 years! i mean he my Father -started- from -the -bottom- sweeping -floors -track- work- mail -baggage grease- monkey -you- name it he did it but always got paid fair be because of you know who and what! and finally he my Father made station agent so I have seen both sides of the coin! Its real shame though-when I can make better living working for grocery store than teaching history and PE! but thank you Walt when your right your right I was wrong so = Please keep your steam up and have fun --sorry dumb and why did i write that stuff ---very embarrass---tom :)
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Tom Group No apology necessary, I too sometimes get on my tree stump and try to be a preacher. I haven't met a perfect person yet (but old Geoff comes close)! Keep your steam up! Walt Mr. Lunkenheimer
Re: OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...
At 9:47 AM -0700 8/30/00, Richard Finlayson wrote: Finally, you will likely agree with me that in many cases the written word does not convey the meaning as well as a real conversation with all the verbal/non-verbal cues that go with it. Agreed. Having spoken to Richard about this previously, I should have pointed out that he is probably the first one willing to make compromises on this issue. \dmc *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ David M. Cole[EMAIL PROTECTED] Editor Publisher: The Cole Papers; NEWSINC.V: (650) 557-9595 Consultant: The Cole Group http://colegroup.com/ F: (650) 557-9696 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ o
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Thankyou Father Walt Mr. Lunkenheimer, We all thankyou , you are our oracle--Wait--a Preacher??-you are bringing in religion--a "no, no" too--gotcha!! Never mind-I luv your steam up reports! So, it's now "Amen" on the subject--Wait --wot's that comment about "old Geoff coming close"--I'll lay awake all night worrying about that one--any other Geoffs out there? Hopefully! Well back to my 3-1/2" track--whoops, another no no! Gaugeful Uncle Geoff. (Z to 3-1/2"-(not to Clark's--YET!!) Tom Group No apology necessary, I too sometimes get on my tree stump and try to be a preacher. I haven't met a perfect person yet (but old Geoff comes close)! Keep your steam up! Walt Mr. Lunkenheimer
Re: OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...
Personal comment. Thank you for the dialog over this matter. Points of consideration were enlightening. As to date, July is not a viable month for me, May is. While only able to attend for a part of one day at the Pleasanton venue, I do hope to spend at least two days in 2001. I look forward to an event in Sacramento and like others will spend some time at the Railroad museum which I tend to visit bi-annually. mp --- Richard Finlayson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So lets not shoot down the idea until we have heard the whole story. I hope I'm not perceived to be in that camp. Not the case. Also, there is no "whole story" yet hence the requirement for feedback on ideas to improve the event. I personally think that Sacramento will make a better venue for the event than the bay area just on the airport/travel front, among other reasons. Also, the operation assumption is that the event moves, with Sacramento the most likely destination. I know for a fact that we do not have a suitable bay area venue available to us this coming spring. I should have make this assumption clear in my list of pros/cons. Dave brings up a good point; it was my understanding in conversations with Kevin that the venue he found is equally available/viable in May or July. That's an important point to clarify. Grover, who's whining? I miss your point. To the point; does it matter to you if the event is in May or July? Finally, you will likely agree with me that in many cases the written word does not convey the meaning as well as a real conversation with all the verbal/non-verbal cues that go with it. Let me state out loud: I will completely support of any decisions that are made relative to the steamup by PCLS and Kevin El Presidente. I am extremely interested in seeing a major event on the west coast that is sustainable for decades; I've invested time and money to try to help make such a thing happen. I have opinions and will express them but when decisions are made and it comes down to making this event successful I will be there with full support. I can't wait to attend the steamup in attendee/volunteer mode and spend more time with my friends at the event! My next step is to contact all of the 2000 NSS attendees and let them know that if they care one way or the other about dates to contact Kevin or myself so that the feedback can be considered. Later! -Richard == Richard Finlayson Check out: http://www.steamup.com "Steam In The Garden Online" __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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I agree with Jim, Sacramento in July or whenever is fine with me! Good public transportation too, as I recall As for the heat--well, this year we had a heat wave at the NSS, up to 100F so we are broken in for Sacramento. Geoff I personally will be there whether its the Nat'l Spring Steamup or the Nat'l Summer... The travel costs from HOU to SMF (Sacramento) is same as to SJC. The costs to me are after I get there -- food and lodging. The big draw for me for a change of venue is the Calif RR Museum. I would surely like to spend time there. July is too hot anywhere to do anything outside -- so, why not play trains inside in Sacramento. Several in our merry group down here in Texas (who have never been to NSS) are excited about coming to Sacramento. Normal disclaimers! Jim Crabb Seabrook (Houston), Texas
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Geoff Spenceley wrote: Well back to my 3-1/2" track--whoops, another no no! Gaugeful Uncle Geoff. (Z to 3-1/2"-(not to Clark's--YET!!) Just get your gauge stretcher out Geoff. I am installing a full sized machine shop (13x40 lathe 9x42 mill) in my house as we speak. And I will start on a 7 1/2 inch gauge engine after Diamondhead 2001. I just returned from the IBLS millennium meet at Train Mountain Oregon. Unbelievable layout (17 actual miles) and number of folks with 7 1/2 inch gauge equipment. 28 came from New Zealand with a shay loco and several cars. Clark
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Clark, Fantastic!! But Whoops and Whoops again, now Dave will surely fire both of us!!--Shut up Father Lunkenheimer, before you even begin! Fired up and "fired" Geoff. (better make tracks!) Geoff Spenceley wrote: Well back to my 3-1/2" track--whoops, another no no! Gaugeful Uncle Geoff. (Z to 3-1/2"-(not to Clark's--YET!!) Just get your gauge stretcher out Geoff. I am installing a full sized machine shop (13x40 lathe 9x42 mill) in my house as we speak. And I will start on a 7 1/2 inch gauge engine after Diamondhead 2001. I just returned from the IBLS millennium meet at Train Mountain Oregon. Unbelievable layout (17 actual miles) and number of folks with 7 1/2 inch gauge equipment. 28 came from New Zealand with a shay loco and several cars. Clark
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What room are you clearing out to put that kind of equipment, Clark? I am real jealous! Bob
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The dinning room of course. I plan to install double doors where the two windows are presently located. Peace of cake. 220v power is already outside in the conduit and just has to be re-routed to the room. It's 50 amp service for a spa that once was on my side patio. CBL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What room are you clearing out to put that kind of equipment, Clark? I am real jealous! Bob
