Re: Cylinder Gaskets
My local Western Auto store sold (it closed last month) gasket paper in .015, .010, and .006 thicknesses. The owner just cut off from a larger sheet as much as I wanted, and I bought one piece about 6 x 12 of each thickness. The .006 feels the closest to a greenback dollar. I doubt that the cost was remarkable, or I would not have bought one piece of each thickness. Bob Blackson
adapter
I am looking for the adapter for filling Ruby's butane tank from butane cartridges. Please let me know it. Jun Kitsukawa 4-10-15 KugenumaSakuragaoka Fujisawa, Kanagawa 251-0027 JAPAN mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hp:http://www6.plala.or.jp/locomotive/
Re: Cylinder Gaskets
Bob, Yup, I roll that will last several lifetimes cost about $2... --- Robert M. Blackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My local Western Auto store sold (it closed last month) gasket paper in .015, .010, and .006 thicknesses. The owner just cut off from a larger sheet as much as I wanted, and I bought one piece about 6 x 12 of each thickness. The .006 feels the closest to a greenback dollar. I doubt that the cost was remarkable, or I would not have bought one piece of each thickness. Bob Blackson __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: adapter
I am looking for the adapter for filling Ruby's butane tank from butane cartridges. Please let me know it. Jun, when you write cartridges, we think of the small metal bottles (for example, 100ml) used for refilling cigarette lighters. These should have adapters included. (The ones sold in the US do, and I assume it's the same everywhere, but that may not be true.) The larger cans used for camping stoves (350ml or larger) must have an adapter. You can get these from Sulphur Springs Steam Models and other live steam suppliers. Go to http://www.sssmodels.com/, choose Burner Parts, and look for Gas Filler Adaptor. This is the part you want. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Thin Steel Sheet
Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
The guys in the larger scales use stove pipe that is a dark blue color. Just a thought Kevin Clark Kevin Strong wrote: Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
Try shim stock. Grainger and MacMaster Carr both sell it. Jon - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: Thin Steel Sheet Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
Hi Kevin. I've seen shim steel advertised in machinery supply company catalogs at most thicknesses from .001 to .032. Cheap ! Try MSC Industrial, JL Industrial, KBC Tools. If you need their websites, let me know. royce in SB PS Philly coming along nicely :-) Kevin Strong wrote: Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
Kevin, I have found that large Olive Oil cans are made of thin steel, thicker than you asked for, I think, but if you are going to use it as a boiler wrapper, thicker might be better. I know it looks good for ore cars! Terry Griner Columbus Ohio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/02 01:54PM Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
At 11:54 AM 4/18/02 -0600, you wrote: Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. Kevin, It's a shame that mild steel shim behaves so well as wrapper material but unfortunately it will rust through from the back side pretty quickly. Priming/treating only slightly delays the eventual agony. But if you want to give it a try ask in at a local machine shop to see if they have any .005 steel shim stock. If you can't beg a piece somewhere near you I think I have some 6 x .006 shim you can experiment with. Regards, Harry
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
I get it from Grainger, as Jonathan suggested. The .005 brass is about $15 for 6 x 100 -- that will do a lot of boiler jackets, tenders, saddle tanks, wrappers for tank cars, etc. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Cylinder gaskets
Phil et al, You're so right Phil. I bet, that with plate glass and myGood Friend Bon-Ami, the same surfaces could be achieved on most steam engine assemblies, ie; valve chest covers, valve chests to cylinder, cyl end covers etc. Geoff. As Geoff knows; We're both O.S. fans, so we're used to good finishes and fitting parts. Phil
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
In a message dated 4/18/02 10:57:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? There is a company I have been dealing with for years with my metal sculptures. They produce a brass or copper clad steel in various thickness. I like these kind of products better than shim stock as they are soft, so easier to form. I think the thinnest is .010. This is the material you see used in those leaf sculptures. E. Jordan. Brookes, 4121 Business Center Dr, Freemont, Ca 94538 (510)770-1500. Pretty good prices for all sorts of sheet metal, but they do have a minimum. I got no connection with these people; just done business with them for 20 some years. Bob
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
Kevin, You may have a hard time finding it anymore, but what you want is the old style Blued stove pipe! It is a heat blued thin sheet steel that was the primary type of stove pipe for many years. I have it on at least three of my locomotives now for upwards of thirty years. So long as you wipe it down after a run with some thin 10 W oil, it maintains a beautiful blue color similar to what I've seen on protected sections of antique locomotive models etc. such as was made by Bassett-Lowke in England, and Bing in Germany. It is getting harder to find, as the painted black stove pipe is easier to take care of. But you may find some old unsold stock in an old time hardware store in rural areas. I have found some, wiithin the last few years at a general store in Windsor, Maine! This is about as close as you will come to Russia Iron. True Russia Iron is probably less of a blue color, but looked that way out of doors when viewed under a clear blue sky. No matter what, it is a very attractive blue color, and if you can get a sheet metal guy to shear off strips to use as jacket bands, along with the blue stove pipe, it end up with a very pretty look. Keith Taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Thin Steel Sheet Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: butane
I was in my local Target store and in the camping dept they have cans of straight Butane, 7.8 ozs, for $2.99. It goes under the name greatlands outdoors, it's in a two toned green can. The nozzle will fit the Ronson valve without an adapter. The only problen is if it is recessed then it wouldn't reach. It works on my roundhouse SRR no. 24 and my Accucraft C16. bob root - Original Message - From: Keith Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Thin Steel Sheet Kevin, You may have a hard time finding it anymore, but what you want is the old style Blued stove pipe! It is a heat blued thin sheet steel that was the primary type of stove pipe for many years. I have it on at least three of my locomotives now for upwards of thirty years. So long as you wipe it down after a run with some thin 10 W oil, it maintains a beautiful blue color similar to what I've seen on protected sections of antique locomotive models etc. such as was made by Bassett-Lowke in England, and Bing in Germany. It is getting harder to find, as the painted black stove pipe is easier to take care of. But you may find some old unsold stock in an old time hardware store in rural areas. I have found some, wiithin the last few years at a general store in Windsor, Maine! This is about as close as you will come to Russia Iron. True Russia Iron is probably less of a blue color, but looked that way out of doors when viewed under a clear blue sky. No matter what, it is a very attractive blue color, and if you can get a sheet metal guy to shear off strips to use as jacket bands, along with the blue stove pipe, it end up with a very pretty look. Keith Taylor - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Thin Steel Sheet Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
Dear Kevin, How much of the steel .006shim material do you need? I am going to the States on the 25th of April and I can mail you what you need. I have the stuff in my factory. It comes in 6 wide rolls and I am sure that I have it available---at no cost to you. Just get me back your (I think) new Denver address. My best wishes, Arthur Cohen, Mexico City __ - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Thin Steel Sheet Does anyone know of a source for .005 steel sheet? The hobby shops tend to have brass, copper, and aluminum, but not steel. I've been using blackened brass sheet for boiler jackets with very nice results, but it dawned on me that most folks describe boiler jackets as resembling a blackened gunmetal. Seems logical to me, then, that all one would have to do would be to get some thin sheet steel, and some gun blackening agent, and viola!! All we have to do is find steel that thin. No, I don't want a list of Yugo dealers. Later, K
Re: adapter
The cheapest source for 100% butane is Asian grocery stores. The supplier is generally Korean. In my area, I can get 7.8 oz cans (the size of a spray paint can) for $1 each. The nozzle on the can doesn't require any adaptor to reach the Ruby fill spout. = 橘川 純 wrote: I am looking for the adapter for filling Ruby's butane tank from butane cartridges. Please let me know it. Jun Kitsukawa 4-10-15 KugenumaSakuragaoka Fujisawa, Kanagawa 251-0027 JAPAN mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hp:http://www6.plala.or.jp/locomotive/
Re: adapter
Hello Jun Kitsukawa. The adapter most commonly used is made by Roundhouse Engineering in England. They have a web site at http://www.roundhouse-eng.com/ There part number for this part is GFA and the cost is GBP 8 that is 8 Pounds Sterling. An idententical part is available from Sulphur Springs Steam Models in America. They have a web site athttp://www.sssmodels.com/ Their part number is TGF1 and the cost is $US 17.50 Both of these companies give excellent service, and will export, and do take credit cards. I usually have stock of these filling adapters, but have none in stock at the moment, and they are not expected for a month or two. Jim Gregg. Precision Industrial Model Makers. Western Australia. At 11:26 PM 4/18/02 -0800, you wrote: I am looking for the adapter for filling Ruby's butane tank from butane cartridges. Please let me know it. Jun Kitsukawa 4-10-15 KugenumaSakuragaoka Fujisawa, Kanagawa 251-0027 JAPAN mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hp:http://www6.plala.or.jp/locomotive/
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
K Any automotive parts shop should have shim steel in sheets or rolls. very inexpensive. Keep your steam up! Walt
Re: Thin Steel Sheet
Hello Kevin, Keith and all, Don't let the office manager catch you, but I regularly use our paper shear at work to slice off nicely trimmed, narrow pieces of brass shim stock. It gives a lot smoother result than using sheet metal shears or scissors, but does tend to put a slight bit of twist into the sheared off parts. Lot's cheaper and easier than tracking down a sheet metal shop. Obviously it won't work too well on thicker materials or perhaps even thin steel, but... Later, Trent Keith Taylor wrote: and if you can get a sheet metal guy to shear off strips to use as jacket bands, along with the blue stove pipe, it end up with a very pretty look.
Re: Cylinder gaskets
Geoff, Yet another reason to be thankful to be an American! grin Honestly, that's quite interesting. Later, Trent Geoff Spenceley wrote: there used to be a thick brown toilet paper sold in England (truly!!) that was rough and sandy on one side and shiny smooth on the other. I always figured it was his and hers.
