Saturday steam up.
Well we had a running day herein Clematis[Oz] on Saturday, and it rained all day! not Aussie weather at all,but it didnt stop them, 20 runners,and locos from Roundhouse,Accucraft,Argyle Aster and home builds..it was so wet that by 3 pm ,the Asters with 6 cars on where slipping at the top of the grade,due to wet and oily track,but so where Accucrafts with he same load.but the steam exhaust was wonderful! cool ,wet day and long trails hanging over the track.. And the funniest run was Sir Nigel Gresley with 7 on, chasing a Ruby with 1 car, it took 3 laps to run him down! Gordon Watson.
Posts and frost line.
Joe, When I built my track I tried both digging holes and earth backfill and digging and concrete..thats for the Boids! Second hand steel pipe ,galvanised. 1 1/2 or larger. no holes just drive it in with a tube hammer or sledge hammer.3 ft seems fine. top with an adjustable slip bracket.. no rot no holes.no movement..recommended. Gordon Watson.
Ruby conversion.
Kevin, Congratulations. thats very believable as a forney.I particularly like the tapered stack, and firebox profile.. Gordon watson.
Spoked wheels for Lady Ann.
Chris, Because you do not need a crankpin boss, you can use a pony truck wheel, whcih is just plain spokes..you will also need access to a lathe as to replicate the Roundhouse collar fixing you need to bore out the wheel mount an dinsert a turned collar with the fixing grub screw.. Mark Wood Part no:T98 would suit. Marks fax no : 0011 44 1787 238458. Gordon Watson.
Stephenson valve gear
Steve, Both the Accucraft and Roundhouse valve gears are a single eccentric gear, using a slotted link for reversing, thier is no lap and no expansive working possible, notching up only shortens the valve travel and gives late admission and early closing.. This gear is fine for models which can make excess steam from gas firing in non drafted boilers, and is an easier production job, which is why it persists in use, and there is nothing wrong with it applied to a siutable model. Gordon Watson.
R/C in steamers
Bert, one thing thats worth trying is to buy a spare set of crystals and install..I had a dreadful glitcher once and new crystals fixed it..apparently sometimes they are not a good match and this causes poor performance. Having said that, RCS gear will not glitch,Tony does a lot of his testing on my track as it has on ground level, and raised track with metal and timber deck and a variety of rail/track brands.. gordon Watson.
Aristocraft 2-8-2 steamer.
Vance, Im ambivalent about this ,to me a great deal of the joy in this live steam hobby is Tactile/Visual and by this I mean ,if the full size loco had wood end beams , then the model should have too,and if the smokebox was metal then so should the model!and if the full size one was lit up and fussed over /lubed and prepared by the driver, then thats what I want to do as well..it seems they are marketing it to the switch on and run crowd.no knowledge needed! I think we may hear some grievous stories in the future. Gordon Watson.
Grade of material.
Pete, For plate frames I use 1/16th mild steel sheet. CRCQ [cold rolled commercial pickled ] has a clean matt grey look and laser cuts well..for US style bar frames hot rolled pickled sheet[ 4 mm thick] which can be laser cut or milled out for one offs..dont try milling out with cold rolled bar flat stock..when you come back the next day it will have bowed as much as 2 or 3mm over 400mm lenght as stresses relieve..which is very! irritating... Gordon Watson.
sectional track.
Until the change over to mechanical harvesting of sugar cane in the 70,s protable track was everywhere on the queensland sugar trams..whole stick wagons where pushed out into the fields next to the cutters on the sectional rails[ giant hornby set] and when the field was cut out. they just picked it up and moved to the next field. Now the sugar is mechnical harvest into truck bins, and tipped into bulk wagons at transfer sidings..the main haulage can be 1000 tons with mid train slaves!r/c controlled [ bogies diesels], concrete ties and heavy rail.. and all on 2 foot gauge! queensland has around 2000km of 2 ft gauge still in use for sugar trams.. Gordon Watson.
Patinas
Hey, Walt.
Australian hounds {aka Blue heeler] are the best dog in the
world..and our Kelpies are right up there as well!but I know what you
mean..we use chemical blacking..on brass and copper parts for a matt black
finish where durability is not a worry using selenium dioxide and the black
is a very thin[molicular copper oxide layer] I find it best to give two
treatments, drying off and buffing with soft cloth between this gives a much
more durable and even coating.
Gordon Watson.. Australia.
K27 burner,
Jeffery, To quieten down the Accucraft burners, obtain some fine mesh stainless steel,about 20 to 25 openings to the inch, cut this to a length which will fit inside the slotted burner tube, roll it up into a hollow tube using a rod as mandrel and ahard surface[ we need a single layer of mesh, so you may have to cut off any excess] Then remove the burners and slide these mesh sleeves up inside the slotted part. work the rod you rolled them up on into the mesh sleeve and get it as even fitted as you can.,reassemble the burners and test,, you will find easier lighting and no whistle, with a generally quie ter performance. Gordon Watson.
Scrappers
Harry, I seem to remember saying to a group at Diamonhead once that my first loco had more in the scrap bucket than was on the engine! and my early modelsare hidden away in sections ,so that prying eyes cannot reconstruct the story... Gordon Watson.
Australian Boiler codes
Mike, A little background on small boilers and AMBSC might help understand whats afoot here. RITGoG is a group of friends who built and operate at public model exhibitioins a 32/45mm live steam layout, sceniced, and very nice indeed..when we started several years ago, there was no knowledge among the model rail fraternity about 16mm csale live steam and this layout being seen in public was largely responsible for the growth in small scale live steam modelling here. As it grew and we got more and more requests to show, we felt it was time to clarify the position on liabilty insurance, unfortunately this coincided with a collapse of a very large insurance co here which threw the entire insurance industry into turmoil, premiums in some cases quadrupled, and some public events which had been held for many years without problems became uninsurable and closed down.[rodeos and similar ,tourist horse riding , adventure tours etc where some affected] The end result was that RIGoG was asked to codify a boiler operating and construction manual for these small boilers so that we could obtain insurance for public shows..once we had what looked like a suitable code we approached the AMBSC poeple as they have responsiblity for administrating the codes for ride on sizes, and our small subminature boilers are excluded at the bottom end of there code.. by Max1 litre, max 700kpa max 50mm outside diameter rulings. We made this approach because we knew that the fastest growing part of the live steam hobby was these small models and many ride on club members would want to run these at thier club tracks. without an accepted code so they where covered by the clubs insurance there was a looming problem..a great deal of work has been done, at getting a practical set of parameters so that Aster and Accucraft models would be able to run, insured ,at future club tracks and show events, no one! stated that they just wanted to play trains, and the work being done was for the benefit of all small scale steamers here, yes we where the only body working on it, but in this large and sparsely populated country ,there was no other group existing.. The work continues, and will ensure affordable public liabilty cover for running small steam models. I hesitate to point out that this whole lawyer driven ambit claim madness originated in the USA! Gordon Watson.
Gas fired Dee
John, the fire on a ceramic burner should be short blue flame.. not easy to find the ceramic here, but try Gas heating poeple and ask for the ceramic panels uesd on infra red heaters.. For your gas jet camping goods stores carry Primus jets. for lanterns and stoves using butane I fyou ask for a G jet or HM jet you will get the right thing..tap needed for the jet holder is 4.5mm by .5 mm pitch.. this may be hard in Brissy.. if so mail your jet holder to me and Ill do it.. Gordon Watson.
GINJ
And it arived here in wildest Victoria[OZtoday ] and its a ripper, thanks Art. Gordon Watson.
Roudhouse axle bushes
Richard, the bushes are a press fit in the frames, could be drifted out with a turned punch fiarly easily.. gordon.
lubricator piping
Royce, I have 1/16th piping on dead leg lubricators, but with short direct. route[about 1 " long ] for longer runs 1/8th " works ok, make the offtake from the lubricator removable and fit up with 1mm hole to start with, can always enlarge by small steps until youre happy with the feed rate.. Having said all that, working on an Aster Jumbo today and noted that the lub connection is 1/16th inch and goes up hill! at one point[ I dont believe this] and they all oil just fine. Gordon W
Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 1002
interesting discussion on Aster values,,and custom work. We do quite a lot of custom work and a rough costing rule for an average detail build is [number of axles loco and tender] multiplied by US$600..for a big model build like a big Boy /Daylight US$900 and its the small detail all over US locos that takes the time! and you aint going to get rich.. Gordon Watson. - Original Message - From: sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:04 PM Subject: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 1002 > sslivesteam-Digest Sunday, November 17, 2002 Issue 1002 > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Southern Pacific No. 2472 > 2. Re: Fwd: Re: instant Aster collection > 3. silver soldering > 4. Re: Soldering and welding require practice. > 5. Re: Soldering and welding require practice. > 6. Re: silver soldering > 7. Metal supplier > 8. Re: Hi Ho Silver (Brazing)! > 9. RE: Soldering and welding require practice. > > > > > -- > > > > > Message Number: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 07:17:24 -0500 > From: "Don Plasterer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Southern Pacific No. 2472 > > Hay Dave, > > How about throwing a turnout and sending the train to Northern Ohio. > > Don > > > > > > > >From: Dave Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Southern Pacific No. 2472 > >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:53:01 -0800 > > > >At 3:46 PM -0800 11/15/02, Shyvers, Steve wrote: > >>This is San Francisco/Silicon Valley local news. A friend of mine saw in > >>the > >>Palo Alto Daily News that the Golden Gate Railroad Museum's SP #2472 will > >>pull a "Train for Tots" on the evenings of November 30 and December 1 as > >>part of the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves' Toys for Tots Program. Stops are > >>scheduled at 4 different stops each night between San Francisco and Santa > >>Clara, starting at San Franciso both nights. Stops are scheduled for 25 > >>minutes at each location. > >> > >> > > > >just to clarify ... there won't be any rides on the train ... it just pulls > >up at a station, the marines do their toys for tots thing, a band plays, > >etc. the train will apparently be decorated for the holidays ... > > > >\dmc > > > >-- > >^^^ > >Dave Cole > >Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co. > > Pacifica, Calif. USA <http://45mm.com/> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >^^^ > > > _ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > -- > > Message Number: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 07:21:50 -0500 > From: "Don Plasterer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: instant Aster collection > > About 4 years ago an Aster Big Boy was going for about $10,000. If this one > sold for almost $16,000 I'd say the return beat most of my mutual funds over > ther period by a long shot!! > > Don > > > >From: steve speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Fwd: Re: instant Aster collection > >Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 23:19:43 -0600 > > > > > >>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:59:27 -0600 > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>From: steve speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: Re: instant Aster collection > >> > >>Why all the negative responses? Who knows, maybe these loco's are just > >>like the seller says, and since he may have purchased them at original > >>issue price they have become a great return for his investment. Has > >>anyone checked what CD's are paying lately...? > >>Steve S. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>At 08:07 AM 11/15/02 +
Project Locomotive
Steve,
Ive had afair bit of practise building US 4-4-0s and offer the
following ,
[1] Frames .laser cut in 3/16 steel,, the main problem is the long thin
front portion which carries the cylinders it will finish up about 1/4 inch
deep if you keep scale proportion, but is ok once you bolt up the cylinder
assembly to the boiler and frame..
[2] in 1:20 scale there is plenty of room for a 2 inch boiler inside a
cosmetic shell/casing and because the firebox area is deep and long coal
should be easy, its also ideal for alcohol firing.
[3] Proper stephenson valve gear is fine because therse plenty of space in
front of the main drivers.
[4] Drive wheels are something of a problem now as Locosteam no,longer
exist and we got our castings from them..you want 12 or 13 spoke and around
55 to 60 mm diameter, the segmental balance wieghts can be brass glued on
and filled with epoxy .
[4] we can still cast ,Smokebox fronts, and pilots, and saddles for 1870s
Baldwins in bronze[lost wax].
[5] axle pumps need to under the cab floor, therse no room on the drive
axle.[
[6] Wieght distribution is a problem, the front end is heavy ni models , I
find its best to have the front truck , unsprung on a bearing pad[but with
side control] and just the drivers sprung, this way you can "set" the ride
hieght with the truck and get the adhesion from sprung drivers also a good
ride for youe engineer!.
Maybe we could have a session at Diamonhead in January? over beer of
course.
Gordon Watson.
NYC Hudson
Richard, For the whistling burner, wrap stainless steel insect screen round the burner, tightly,, 2 layers.. for the axle pump, remove the balls, clean the seats with a D bit, install new balls[after the tap the ball in the seat trick] brings tears to the eyes! these pumps supply more water than needed when in good condition. Regards Gordon,
flying Scotsman,
Art, Yes its a JVR type C 2 off 1/2 inch tubes..I think it might be the fairly large smokebox volume and the choke of the petticoat looks larger than some other Asters Ive run. whatever it works! Gordon.
Flying Scotsman
Geoff, if you think it looks pretty, wait till you hear it! it can be heard 50 yards away, a loud, cracking, 3 cylinder beat. I have never heard any thing like it from a Gauge 1 loco..we had a little run day last Saturday, it had to haul a LNWR train[not much LNER coaches here in OZ] but at least it looked Pommie.It steams well and tracks well but seems a litle slippery on its feet, track was oily though and that didnt help.. Gordon Watson
Tender hand pumps
Ive built hand pumps with goodall type valves on the discharge side,once you
get the "fit" correct for the tubing works well..they will not work on the
suction side.suction side valve must be lowest possible resistance to
flow,and that means ball valve.I also tried goodall type as a boiler
clack,very good! absolutely leak free. but again needs to be very carefully
sized so that flow resistance is as low as possible the silicone tube
internal diameter should be about0.002 smaller than the sleeve.
Gordon Watson
Slip rolls and shears
Argyle has had a chinese origin combination slip roll/shear and brake for 7 years now .used every day..tend to be poorly set up when you buy it but worth its weight in gold. we grind the shear blades yearly and dont let Father in law crop hardened screws to length on it! the regrind cost $80 Vance to set up the shear..drop the top shear thru the cuttong zone.bring the horizontal blade hard up using the adjustment screws at each end ,tapping with leather hammer and check with feeler gauges every 2 inches or so along the length, there is a jacking screw on the rear support to the vertical blade and this needs to be used to egt the vertical blade straight.once you happy that the contact area is straight, back the horizontal blade off a wisker,just enough so the blades are not rubbing at the cutting edge. Lastly dont try to cut heavier than 1mm in long lenghts,you can get away with 1/16copper/brass in small pieces. Gordon.Watson
Drivers again
Ken, A boxpoc driver would be very useful to have,lots of modern locos used them..I would suggest cast iron done by lost wax process,this will give the fine finish needed and the pattern making isnt difficult,look in Yellow pages under Ferrous Foundries for companies doing precision castings..you will need to discuss shrinkage factors etc before pattern making. Gordon Watson.
Steamlines Shay.
Gary, You can buy 3:1 gears in brass from Chicago Gears they are for 1/8 inch shafts and beatifully made, 10ba grub screws cab be used in the pinion and 6ba in the crown wheel..If I can make a suggestion, the mating surfaces off the Osmotor are best lapped on 1000 grade wet and dry,using a plate glass surface this will show up all sorts of posible leak areas.But I do think fitting a set of David Baileys trucks is the best move. Gordon Watson.
Electric boilers
Flouty, Its been done .commercially..German co in 1980s Ive got a section drawing of a 2-8-2 tanker in HO scale..worked on 18vdc resistance heater in horizontal boiler..can mailk you a drawing copy if you like. Gordon Watson.
mike Martins loco,
Mike, Very nice indeed.I love the polished boiler! I assume its 7/8 scale? looks tall enough.. Gordon Watson
Fasteners for Loco building
Argyle uses british,BA in 10,8 and 6BA and ME series for fittings..Metric taps and dies are only available here in a range down to 3mm and generally the coarse pitch series, metric small fasteners such as Aster uses are absolutely unobtainable.and this is what we need for our Models Asters sizes are typically 2mm and 2.3mm and 0.7mm pitch:roughly equivalent to 8BA. BA screws are becoming difficult here to buy now and we do a bulk buy from UK supplier once a year some sizes of Socket heads are no longer made,and we may have to mix metric and BA at future times in the one loco.just to be able to build, about that time Ill retire! Gordon WatsonArgyle Australia.
Nitrile balls
Harry, I tried these in axle pumps some time ago.they are fine in the discharge side,particularly if your seat maching isnt good,but dont work on the suction side,reason: on the pump inwards stroke the pressure forces the ball down into the seat so hard ,that it distorts and jams ! no water comes in on the next outwards stroke..we now use bronze balls on suction side and outlet.but Ithink bronze suction and nitrile discharge might be ideal. Gordon Watson.
Diamonhead in Janurary.
This is a little off topic, but I couldnt think of a better way to reach relevant people. Is anyone planning on driving from the LA area to Diamonhead? Im not to keen on flying inside the US at present. happy to share costs etc of ride ..can also drive on wrong side of road. Gordon Watson.
Turf Burning,
for those interested in lateral thinking.O. Bullied while CME of Eire National Railways in 1950,s built and ran a Locmotive somewhat like a small Jawn Henry [N&W] in looks,,it had piston valved engines in each bogie[truck] a boiler which was double ended and fired by stoker in a firebox at the middle with turf from a hopper, this loco ran successfully at its designed speed of 70MPH, was very quiet in running [fan drafting at both ends of the boiler] and tracked like a 6 axle diesel.. it was planned to supplement diesels in case of Oil shortages, but did not proceed..in use it burned about 90lbs of turf /mile, since turf ahs about half the BTUs of coal,this was a pretty good boiler/engine design when compared to average coal burning locos of the time..the small bore high speed steam engines in the bogies had characteristics similar to electric motors and this was a deliberate part of the design to give similar acceleration to D/E locos..very interesting!
Gas Burner data..
Larry, Basic data for gas burners.. To steam 10mm[3/8"] cylinders. air mixing chamber inside diameter 3/8" lenght from face of gas jet to entry into slotted tube 20mm.2 air holes 6mm dia half way along the chamber...jet holder to be a sliding fit in outer end of air mix chamber, grub screw to clamp..gas piping to be 1/16" copper tube [K&S] suitable gas jet 18 micron[ this size is used in small butane camp stoves ,circular burner type about 50mm]..sloitted burner tube made from thick wall brass tube, 1/4" or 3/8" dia 15 slots 0.025" wide or slightly l;arger.. For 9/16" dia cylinders same burner but gas jet 22 micron[ used in larger camp stove burners 75mm dia] If you draw the burner up ,in side view, remember that the gas stream after the jet behaves similar to steam from blast nozzle.ie: diverges at 6 degrees included and this determines distance from the gas jet to entry to slotted tube... hope this helps. Gordon W.
Elevated roadbeds.
My experience has ben good with cement sheeting, although it does need timber edgeing to prevent crumble [it seems to get brittle after 4 or 5 years.] but one method I can endorse is to use Cable tray..this is used in high rise buildings to carry electric cables its galvanised ,made from pressed steel, has a turned up edge about 1 " high,which is very useful if derailments happen as a safety fence. the bottom is punched with drainage holes ,it can be curved to radius needed, and comes in widths from 10 " wide to 3 feet...I aly insect wire in the bottom of the tray.bolt the track using small screws thru the bottom, and then loose ballast around, looks good, drains perfectly, never moves ,doesnt warp, twist or rotsounds a bit like an advert! its only problem is looking for any screw thats fallen off your loco.youll never find it! Gordon W
Gauge Glasses
Royce, Perhaps MUST was a bit didactic..shouldwould have been better..just experience,Cross section same all the way seems to help with clarity of readings,,I think a lot of our problem begins with the upper[steam] passage which can get a splash of water nito it which then acts as a membrane if the passage is small and capillirary action works to hold it across the passage.. rather like blowing bubbles with soapy water,, this problem is also apparent in alcohol chicken feed systems which have the air bleed tube too small,,bubble/membrane gets into the tube and the loco fire dies for no obvious reason.. with these 1/4" dia is minimum.. absolute! Gordon W
Sight glasses
Ive followed this with interest..becuase Ive had the Plastic plate in Mamods blow out while running ,very scary[but not real dangerous!] the type of water glass on the Merlin /Beck locos is easy to make. Body from 3/8 sq brass . milled channel in center with bolt holes around outside, recess milled to retain glass and cover plate from 1/16th brass with slot milled to show glassand level, top and bottom connections silver soldered to entrancs holes at the back of body..but the connections must equal in cross section the milled channel in the main body ie; if the channel is 1/4 sq. the pipes should be 5/16th dia.. Gordon W.
brass Colouring.
I have used a brass blackener which is Selenium Dioxide
[5%] W/W Brass should be clean and degreased before immersion, takes about
8 minutes max.bestresults seem to be drying using heat and rubbing of
surplus with soft clean cloth ,followed by a second treatment.this will
blacken copper /brasses/ but not all bronzes and not silver solder.
Trade name is "Ebonol" The coating /colour is copper oxide.
Gordon Watson.
Raised letters on wheel patterns
Royce, I would try this, [1] cut a segment/backing plate for the letters from brass, say 0.5mm thick. [2] clean up ,and using rub on lettering [letraset os similar] put down the SPCO etc on the segment, make sure the letters are well down on the brass. [3] mask the back and edges of the brass with nail polish. [4] immerse in Ferric chloride solution for 20 minutes . [5] rinse of in water, remove the masking with thinners . Radio shacks etchant for circuit boards is ferric chloride..about 10% only. Gordon Watson.
Compouding of Steam locos,
Been watching this thread with interest..Aster has built several compound locos,,Swiss A3/5 and DR 0+8+0 ++0+8+0 and J.V.R. did a lot of the Design calcs etc for them ,he wrote a very good article in G1MRA Journal on compouding in our small size about 2 years ago.Basics seem to be ahigh enough pressure from the boiler so that aftre the first stage cylinders theres sufficient left to do useful work in the low pressure side, the ratio of cylinder sizes comes out different to full size locos from memory on the DR loco it was 10mm bore [high] and 13mm [low] this loco is very strong once its warmed through and runs like the wind! and no reheating was fitted.. Gordon Watson.
Propane Tanks
Bob, i think your right that most jet blockages are from residue in soldered tanks, try a small wad of cotton wool in the back of the jet,almost certain cure.. on welded tanks certainly thats how there made in larger sizes whether its feasible in our small sizes I doubt can you weld mig on a workpiece 3 inches long? I cant. I think Charlies very correct on this ..fabricate using mechanical assembly with O ring seals and verifiable materials.. As a point of interest in oZ Propane tanks are scrapped at 10 years age unless they pass a mandated inspection so the corrosion issue is present! gordon Watson.
Propane/Butane Tanks.
Following this thread with interest. Two points to consider, CMynhier designs Propane tanks for use at remote locations from boiler heat. Most commercial designs carry the gas tank close to boiler to obtain some warmth to ensure Butane vapour pressure. The filler valve issue is also valid. I think that steel for a brazed/ silver soldered tank is unwise because you must pickle in mild acid to remove flux residues, you will never ! be sure the tank is free of corrosion inside and it may result in a sudden failure years down the track.Remeber that Propane vapour pressure rises rapidly with temp, and note that Charlies designs can be dismantled for inspection /cleaning and are not Brazed. Here in OZ the requirements for Propane tanks manufacture are onerous...1000psi proof test andsupervision by govt agency we would not even consider it. Gordon Watson.
Re: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 258
Jun, I have not recievde any reply from Locosteam from several enquiries over many months,, I dont think they wish to deal outside of UK. Gordon Watson - Original Message - From: "sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 5:00 PM Subject: sslivesteam-Digest - Number 258 > sslivesteam-Digest Friday, June 16, 2000 Issue 258 > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Boiler design help... > 2. Loco wheel > 3. Re: card files > > > > > -- > > > > > Message Number: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:24:40 +1000 > From: Paul Trevaskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Boiler design help... > > Trot > It has been done > Les Knoll being the author > Have a look at the Nov/Dec 1999 issue of Steam in the Garden > Paul > > > > > > -- > > Message Number: 2 > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:45:59 + > From: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCNUxAbiEhPWMbKEI=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Loco wheel > > Last month I mailed Walsall and Locosteam to order G1MRA Project Loco > wheel.But I have not gotten responce yet. Please let me know how to > contact with them. > > >Jun Kitsukawa >JAPAN > > > > -- > > Message Number: 3 > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:32:59 -0400 > From: Robb and Cheryl DeVries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: card files > > Yes Trent I have seen cars with chalk markings on them as to where they > go when switching. This is in the last 5 years. > > Trent Dowler wrote: > > > > > P.S.- Has anyone else ever known of the large chalk like the kids now buy to draw > > on the streets and driveways with, to be originally used in the railroad yards for > > marking cars? I heard it once but never found out for sure. Just curious. > > > > -- > > > End of sslivesteam-Digest #258 > > > >
Ruby gas filler leak
Having examined a Ruby, and its filler valve for gas..these valves are meant to have a Flat! seal ring in section,not an O ring ..the flat ring withstands the outwards forces because it clamps evenly under the valve top flange, Accucraft have probably been supplied these in error by their supplier...if you look at a Roundhouse or Argyle or Pearse valve you will see the difference.. I think the Loctite plus a twist if Teflon tape would be the best temporary fix..use the Gasfitters grade of Teflon this is heavier than the el cheapo type and designed for gas joints.. Gordon.
Bio.
Short bio for Gordon Watson. 56 yrs,, live in the Dandenong Ranges east of Melbourne [OZ] Puffing billy rlwy runs past the house.. always interested in Steam trains but no time for 20 yrs while Marriage /career /kids etc and then in about 1985 picked up a Magazine which had an article by Jack Weldon on steam tramming...hooked utterly!dusted down my Fathers lathe. bought brass that weekend and cut metal on the Sunday,,havent stopped since,for 10 years now have been Argyle Locomotive Works in partner ship with my wife Michele. full time engine builder.mostly US Prototypes as the Market here is small but growing and we live on the export market..
puffing billy Rlwy and Zbigniew,
Zbigniew, I was glad to see your final infection with steam took place on our Railway.. If you can remeber the trip,after the first station[Menzies Creek] the train ran down hill with long views out to the right hand side over farmland and forest and then crossed a road and along alevel stretch fairly straight.if you had looked to the right hand side you would have seen our home and Argyles Shed! We built a run of NA class locos as our first commercial model about 10 years ago, they are a big..loco in this size,about the size of this keyboard,and had springing on all axles, axle pumps, working side tanks and baldwin 4 bar crossheads[ which are a B to fit up!each one took 150 hours too build and where sold for about half thier true value..a good first lesson in this business. gordon Watson.
Bantam../Goodall type va;lve
Richard /Phil and all, Bantam does not have a bush under the dummy fill hatch as standard..richards was aspecial request/deal..if you have astandard build one and want a goodall type valve it can be fitted into the bush on boiler top just behind the cab wall, if you have apressure gauge fitted to this bush, can still make one to fit above the banjo fitting which carries the P/G pipe..the steam dome functions correctly in that the regulator collector pipe goes up into the dome top to give drier steam this pip eis located under the bush so be carefull when poking around inside .. Gordon Watson.
