Re: Paso Robles Track
I am behind on reading my email. On the track damage in transport issue I borrowed from my days in N-trak and use a 12 section of track at the table joints. This keeps the end of the flex track back from the edge. I have had no damage to the end of the track. My track has 2 meter radius curves and set up measures 15' X 25'. Each curve is made up of three pieces 10 wide with an eight foot straight section in the middle that is 2' wide. For transport I bolt two sections track to track. It fits in a full size pickup or small trailer. I can set it up in one hour. http://www.johnsgardenrailway.com/images/Steam-ups/Devries-2003/BAGRS_small.JPG http://www.johnsgardenrailway.com/images/Steam-ups/Devries-2003/TomsFlyingScotsman2.JPG This years steamup is fast approaching (June 19). If anyone wants to steam in West Michigan let me know. Robb Gary wrote: Our club had to scrap our portable aluminum track system because of transportation damage that always occurred to track.
Re: Paso Robles Track
Robb, Thanks for the info, Looks great, it sure deserved the honor of Tom's Flying Scotsman!! Can I ask what coaches the FS is pulling? Thanks Geoff I am behind on reading my email. On the track damage in transport issue I borrowed from my days in N-trak and use a 12 section of track at the table joints. This keeps the end of the flex track back from the edge. I have had no damage to the end of the track. My track has 2 meter radius curves and set up measures 15' X 25'. Each curve is made up of three pieces 10 wide with an eight foot straight section in the middle that is 2' wide. For transport I bolt two sections track to track. It fits in a full size pickup or small trailer. I can set it up in one hour. http://www.johnsgardenrailway.com/images/Steam-ups/Devries-2003/BAGRS_small.JPG http://www.johnsgardenrailway.com/images/Steam-ups/Devries-2003/TomsFlyingScots man2.JPG This years steamup is fast approaching (June 19). If anyone wants to steam in West Michigan let me know. Robb Gary wrote: Our club had to scrap our portable aluminum track system because of transportation damage that always occurred to track.
Re: Paso Robles Track
Below is the reply I got from Tom M (Steam Tom 1) The baggage car is metal, with the name David J. Parkins on the bottom. It was originally green, in Southern livery. I bought it about three years ago at DH from Bob Moser. The other two coaches, one third class, and one autocoach, are Tenmille kits, assembled for me by Barry Harper. Barry also painted the baggage car in cream and brown Great Western livery. I usually run the train behind my Great Western Pannier. Last June at your house that was the only British train I had to run behind either my Scotsman or my Schools. I have since corrected that problem. Tom Geoff Spenceley wrote: Robb, Thanks for the info, Looks great, it sure deserved the honor of Tom's Flying Scotsman!! Can I ask what coaches the FS is pulling?
Re[3]: Paso Robles Track
Dave You should be able to get ones with damaged superstructure free. To them they are scrap. A course of anger to customers. Do them a favor, save them having to pay to have them removed by the refuse people. Bert - Bert Edmunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paso Robles Track
Our club had to scrap our portable aluminum track system because of transportation damage that always occurred to track. I noticed, with envy, the Portland O Gaugers club uses a trailer with racks to prevent modules from contacting each other. Does the Paso Robles Track have a transportation system that minimizes damage? Steaming Sparking over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon ~ Gary http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor | Gentlemen, | Heads Up Work Party assistance required. | Phase 3 for reworking the Paso Robles Track to running condition is | lifting, adjusting and aligning all the section track ends, replacing some | kinked rails, fitting rail joiners, replacing end section ties etc. This is | not a job which can wait till Wednesday at McClennan. | Talking to Tom King this pm, we agreed to schedule this for next | Saturday June 12th. Subject to Gary receiving the balance of rail joiners | early next week.(Monday). | We also need to check the balance of the loaded trailer and may need | to re-arrange some of the load layout. | Please advise availability and intentions to assist. | Thank You, | Regards, | Tony D.
Re: Paso Robles Track
ah, were it only so. in prioritizing the work that needs to be done, we are first trying to get the track usable for the national summer steamup (http://www.summersteamup.com/) in sacramento, july 22-25. up until a few months ago, the paso robles track was stored underneath someone's house ... it needs lots of different things done to it and we've only just begun. suffice it to say, the project turned out to be a lot more work than we had anticipated. we were able to buy a trailer -- it's a big one -- and our goal is to build carts that will transport not only the paso robles track but also the pcls track. before the paso robles track came on the market, we were going to build carts for the pcls track this spring; instead we're working on the paso robles track. once we have a cart system together, we'll be hauling the tracks around for more use than just four days every summer. \dmc At 10:00 AM -0700 6/5/04, Gary wrote: Our club had to scrap our portable aluminum track system because of transportation damage that always occurred to track. I noticed, with envy, the Portland O Gaugers club uses a trailer with racks to prevent modules from contacting each other. Does the Paso Robles Track have a transportation system that minimizes damage? Steaming Sparking over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon ~ Gary http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor | Gentlemen, | Heads Up Work Party assistance required. | Phase 3 for reworking the Paso Robles Track to running condition is | lifting, adjusting and aligning all the section track ends, replacing some | kinked rails, fitting rail joiners, replacing end section ties etc. This is | not a job which can wait till Wednesday at McClennan. | Talking to Tom King this pm, we agreed to schedule this for next | Saturday June 12th. Subject to Gary receiving the balance of rail joiners | early next week.(Monday). | We also need to check the balance of the loaded trailer and may need | to re-arrange some of the load layout. | Please advise availability and intentions to assist. | Thank You, | Regards, | Tony D. -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA http://45mm.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers http://45mm.com/sslivesteam/lists/ ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 22-25, 2004 For more information, visit the web site at http://www.summersteamup.com ^^^
Re: Paso Robles Track
I used Nickel Silver rail, but you could use Stainless Steel, it is tough. I put 1/2 high legs on the bottom of each section and had upright posts to contain the stack of modules. The track traveled many thousands of miles and never had a bit of damage. Keep your steam up! Walt, Mr. Lunkenheimer's associate
Re: Paso Robles Track
Dave's message got deleted before I had a chance to reply. If you haven't done so, look at some of the lumber carts that Home Depot uses. They have a set of wheels in the center of the long side, and a smaller swivel wheel in the center of the ends. Makes for a very easy to maneuver cart. Be sure to make some sort of shim to place under the end wheels so the cart can be secured for transport without making it a veritable 'camelback.' Keep your steam up! Walt
Re[2]: Paso Robles Track
Hello Dave I see you are in the throws of preparing your track for a steam up We use modules of 1.2m x 0.6m about 4ft by 2ft. They have a 2x1 wooden frame and the top is a laminate which is oil and water resistant. This material is usually used to protect chip board in transit at the top and bottom of the pack therefor it is usually free from timber importers etc. We use one folding leg at one end only they are usually found under party tables. Here again the renters often have to scrap tables and the legs of metal are also more often than not recycled free The modules are bolted together with coach bolts and wing nuts. After building the units to a square there are two corners without support We simply put 2 leg sets under these ends. The track is laid on the tables the heating up area is on a metal stairway grid 4ft x 2ft module naturally which allows water to drop thro into a drip tray. There is also a large mirror underneath which can be brought into position for alco. firing systems so that they can keep an eye on thing from above. All the modules are moved on a recycled Supermarket hardware dept. trolly and the whole thing (36 modules usually) can be ready to run within 45 minutes. Dismantling takes the same time a quick rub with a cloth and it clean enough to store away without further cleaning. I don't know if this is any help, but it is easy to transport in a car with fold down seats and the 3m long track we use goes up on the roof tied to timbers. Thats it Cheap, easy, fast, one man can do it. I have detail photos. Regards Bert - Bert Edmunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Paso Robles Track
At 9:22 PM +0200 6/5/04, Bert Edmunda wrote: I don't know if this is any help, but it is easy to transport in a car with fold down seats and the 3m long track we use goes up on the roof tied to timbers. Thats it Cheap, easy, fast, one man can do it. I have detail photos. it's always helpful to hear what other folks are doing ... with the paso robles track we are starting with something another group built, so we are having to improve upon their engineering. again, our goal in the next few weeks is to make the track steamable ... next fall we'll start working on longterm fixes in addition to carts. thanks. \dmc ps: walt -- the home depot carts are a good idea ... i wonder if they sell used ones? ... -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA http://45mm.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers http://45mm.com/sslivesteam/lists/ ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 22-25, 2004 For more information, visit the web site at http://www.summersteamup.com ^^^
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As soon as I can track down one of their managers, I'll try to find out. Around here those guys are harder to get to see than getting an appointment with an MD! what ever happened to the frames that I sent out to San Jose some time back in the 90s? Keep your steam up! Walt
Re: Re[2]: Paso Robles Track
At 8:43 PM -0400 6/5/04, Walt Swartz wrote: what ever happened to the frames that I sent out to San Jose some time back in the 90s? those were the basis for what we call the pcls track. you wouldn't recognize your frames, but they are in there somewhere ... you can see pictures of it on mike martin's web site http://www.panyo.com/nss2003/ it's the track that has the camouflage paint job on the deck (thank you vickie-marie). \dmc -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA http://45mm.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers http://45mm.com/sslivesteam/lists/ ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 22-25, 2004 For more information, visit the web site at http://www.summersteamup.com ^^^
