Re: instant Aster collection

[Geoff Spenceley]

Right on Gary,

Wotta an idea, you are brilliant!   I have an LGB wine car too. I intended
to use it as a water or fuel supply for the locos. --Now I'll fill it with
cognac to inhale and sip--after the steaming as I sit in satisfaction after
another successful? steamup..   By the bye, be careful pulling that wine
car over that long dizzy  trestle!!  Hic!

Geoff.


Personally, I prefer to haul cognac in LGB wine cask cars. They dispense in
>a manner that pleases all.
>Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: FBM Studios
>To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
>Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:31 AM
>Subject: Re: instant Aster collection
>
>
>Now I know the secret to remaining calm and collected while boiling
>water in the little metal dragons. :-))
>
>On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 09:21  AM, steve boylan wrote:
>
>>>  Comes with bottle of Tanqueray
>>> to drink while fiddling."
>>
>
>


 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[J.D. Toumanian]

Anyone who knows me would certainly not say I was an Aster basher, or
that I think fine models should not appreciate in value... I have a
number of Aster models.  I love them and I definitely run them.  Being a
machinist and having made a number of live steamers, I respect the
amount of work that goes into making them.

Actually, If that BigBoy sold for $16,000 it would probably be less than
inflation, considering the approximate $9,000 price tag in 1980.  If you
justify it that way, or on the basis of hiring a master machinist to
make one for you, it does not seem like a bad price.  The simple reality
is that they are available for much less.

Realize also that a lot of people put things on eBay with no intention
of actually selling them... they use ridiculously high reserves to see
what the item COULD have sold for.  Certainly the fellow with a nice
collection of G1 Marklin and Bassett-Lowke tinplate live steamers on
eBay a few years ago was doing this. (All had absurd reserves, and none
sold)

If you are looking for a BigBoy or Daylight, I strongly suggest you
wait... They come around often enough, and you'll save yourself
$5,000...

-Jon 
 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Earle]

Well said Tony!
- Original Message -
From: "Anthony Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Instant Aster Collection


> Hi Geoff,
> Great eloquence and timing, I totally agree.
> Sadly a fact of life that when someone produces a superior product, or
> initiates standards which others cannot meet, then the remaining 99% of
the
> population seem to devote their time and energy to knocking down the
> product, instead of trying to meet or beat the opposition with even higher
> standards of products and value for money.
>  Also a fact, that fortunately everyone is different, diverse and
> living in their own unique situations and means. Therefore have to cut
> their cloth accordingly, and many are content in doing so. No matter what
> the product, houses, cars, boats and the numerous hobbies/toys/sports
etc.,
> everyone want the best bang for the buck. Regardless of being for personal
> use, or as an ornament for investment.
>  The savvy marketing guys at Aster, Accucraft and Roundhouse each
> recognize and exploit different marketing niches and product release
methods.
>  Aster having set the standards with the high end, high quality,
> limited editions, super loco builds.
> Roundhouse with on-going limited releases of high quality designs,
with
> straight out of the box robustness, reliability and scaling of  unique
> protypical "work horse" engines.
> Both having set the high standards we see in each field for many
years.
> Accucraft are now joining the market, utilizing their high volume cost
> effective manufacturing methods, and quality standards. As used on its
mass
> produced electrical products, to introduce its own unique low cost live
> steam engines in a price range, not strictly covered by the other two.
With
> their long term reliability still in its infancy.
> All of which makes the market more competitive, and hopefully more
cost
> effective value
> for us, the customers.
>
>Many people delight in knocking each others ideologies. Unfortunately,
> according to their unique intellectual standards this sometimes gets out
of
> hand, if someone has had a bad hair day. All the above personal traits are
> greatly magnified and manipulated by marketeers, advertisers, TV  and 24
hr
> "experts" etc., in order to sell many "non- value", poor quality products,
> and make people "think" they have the best bang for their buck when
parting
> with their hard earned money.
> However the best marketing tool is from "experienced" prior users.
> Fortunately, there are still many people who recognize a good buy when
they
> see it, within their own "cost of fun" boundaries. Thereby getting
> excellent quality, value and reliability, and who are willing and able to
> pass on these experiences, good and bad, in helping others make sound
> purchasing decisions according to their limits. To those who know are
> prepared to listen.
> I suggest we all remember, and some still have,  our first favorite
> toys we had in the initial 10 years of our lives. Whether a tinplate car
or
> engine etc., we had no idea of its actual cost, but its true personal
value
> was a treasure. We also remember the great disappointments of toys which
> broke immediately out of the box, and were discarded as useless.
> Similarly, as more people are drawn into the live steam hobby, and
> mature with experience, each will remember his first favorite engine
> regardless of actual cost, pedigree and usage. Sometimes the worst
> performers, bring back the best memories also.
> Some people prefer just look at the beauty of their engines in glass
> cases. Not wanting to hear or see it steaming, but knowing it is retaining
> more value than their 401k investments.
> Of course as time goes by, we will also remember and experience, the
> cost of quality, reliability and "fun factor", or lack thereof.
> Here endeth, etc.etc!.
> TTFN.
> Tony D.
>
>
>
> 11/17/02 -0800, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
> >Thanks Harry,
> >
> >Too many hobbyists seem to enjoy being snotty about Aster. They have been
a
> >tremendous asset to the hobby and even if you never buy one, can't afford
> >to,  or never  have the intention,  they have helped you in some way or
> >another. The Big Boy is certainly expensive but some consider them as an
> >asset, like buying stock or bonds. It is a shame they sit and don't run,
> >but don't knock the investors--each to his own. They help keep Aster in
> >business which is important to many of us. Also, re 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Dave Cole]

At 11:39 AM -0800 11/17/02, Geoff Spenceley wrote:

tremendous asset to the hobby and even if you never buy one, can't afford
to,  or never  have the intention,  they have helped you in some way or
another.


geoff is right and here is a concrete example: the aster catalog and 
manual was my first real clear explanation of all the technical 
aspects of this hobby. i had read magazine articles and had visited 
steamups, but going through the catalog's technical section was what 
got me up-to-speed on a variety of issues, not the least of which was 
a set of simple, how-to instructions on steaming.

as our own vance bass has written, "the manual is probably the best 
introductory book on small-scale live steam available today, and as 
such has a place on every small-scale live steamer's bookshelf."

while other parts of its product line may be priced outside my 
ability to pay, $15 for the aster catalog and manual is right in line 
with what i would expect it to cost.

\dmc


--
^^^
Dave Cole
Gen'l Sup't:  Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co.
  Pacifica, Calif. USA  
List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers
  

^^^ 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Anthony Dixon]

Hi Geoff,
   Great eloquence and timing, I totally agree.
   Sadly a fact of life that when someone produces a superior product, or 
initiates standards which others cannot meet, then the remaining 99% of the 
population seem to devote their time and energy to knocking down the 
product, instead of trying to meet or beat the opposition with even higher 
standards of products and value for money.
Also a fact, that fortunately everyone is different, diverse and 
living in their own unique situations and means. Therefore have to cut 
their cloth accordingly, and many are content in doing so. No matter what 
the product, houses, cars, boats and the numerous hobbies/toys/sports etc., 
everyone want the best bang for the buck. Regardless of being for personal 
use, or as an ornament for investment.
The savvy marketing guys at Aster, Accucraft and Roundhouse each 
recognize and exploit different marketing niches and product release methods.
Aster having set the standards with the high end, high quality, 
limited editions, super loco builds.
   Roundhouse with on-going limited releases of high quality designs, with 
straight out of the box robustness, reliability and scaling of  unique 
protypical "work horse" engines.
   Both having set the high standards we see in each field for many years.
   Accucraft are now joining the market, utilizing their high volume cost 
effective manufacturing methods, and quality standards. As used on its mass 
produced electrical products, to introduce its own unique low cost live 
steam engines in a price range, not strictly covered by the other two. With 
their long term reliability still in its infancy.
   All of which makes the market more competitive, and hopefully more cost 
effective value
for us, the customers.

  Many people delight in knocking each others ideologies. Unfortunately, 
according to their unique intellectual standards this sometimes gets out of 
hand, if someone has had a bad hair day. All the above personal traits are 
greatly magnified and manipulated by marketeers, advertisers, TV  and 24 hr 
"experts" etc., in order to sell many "non- value", poor quality products, 
and make people "think" they have the best bang for their buck when parting 
with their hard earned money.
   However the best marketing tool is from "experienced" prior users. 
Fortunately, there are still many people who recognize a good buy when they 
see it, within their own "cost of fun" boundaries. Thereby getting 
excellent quality, value and reliability, and who are willing and able to 
pass on these experiences, good and bad, in helping others make sound 
purchasing decisions according to their limits. To those who know are 
prepared to listen.
   I suggest we all remember, and some still have,  our first favorite 
toys we had in the initial 10 years of our lives. Whether a tinplate car or 
engine etc., we had no idea of its actual cost, but its true personal value 
was a treasure. We also remember the great disappointments of toys which 
broke immediately out of the box, and were discarded as useless.
   Similarly, as more people are drawn into the live steam hobby, and 
mature with experience, each will remember his first favorite engine 
regardless of actual cost, pedigree and usage. Sometimes the worst 
performers, bring back the best memories also.
   Some people prefer just look at the beauty of their engines in glass 
cases. Not wanting to hear or see it steaming, but knowing it is retaining 
more value than their 401k investments.
   Of course as time goes by, we will also remember and experience, the 
cost of quality, reliability and "fun factor", or lack thereof.
   Here endeth, etc.etc!.
   TTFN.
   Tony D.



11/17/02 -0800, Geoff Spenceley wrote:
Thanks Harry,

Too many hobbyists seem to enjoy being snotty about Aster. They have been a
tremendous asset to the hobby and even if you never buy one, can't afford
to,  or never  have the intention,  they have helped you in some way or
another. The Big Boy is certainly expensive but some consider them as an
asset, like buying stock or bonds. It is a shame they sit and don't run,
but don't knock the investors--each to his own. They help keep Aster in
business which is important to many of us. Also, re Aster products, There
are very few sources  for Brit 1/32 locos and they are more expensive when
built by individuals. Aster produces what the market will bear, not to
produce them  necessarily for investors, and I have never seen them
advertise in that  manner.

So lets keep this hobby on a sensible level, we are all in it together, we
should help each other.  Example: I think this Ruby-versus- Roundhouse got
a bit out of hand--I like both and would like to have both if they  were
built to my  preferred scale.

Geoff.





At 09:30 AM 11/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>>Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster
>>standards, and then assemble it for you.
>
> Let's say that there was no Aster Big

Re: instant Aster collection

[Gary]

Personally, I prefer to haul cognac in LGB wine cask cars. They dispense in
a manner that pleases all.
Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon


- Original Message -
From: FBM Studios
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: instant Aster collection


Now I know the secret to remaining calm and collected while boiling
water in the little metal dragons. :-))

On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 09:21  AM, steve boylan wrote:

>>  Comes with bottle of Tanqueray
>> to drink while fiddling."
>

 

Re: instant Aster collection

[FBM Studios]

Now I know the secret to remaining calm and collected while boiling
water in the little metal dragons. :-))

On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 09:21  AM, steve boylan wrote:


 Comes with bottle of Tanqueray
to drink while fiddling."

Re: instant Aster collection

[steve boylan]

Geoff,

You wrote:

> Yes, it's sad indeed. IF I was to sell one of my Asters on ebay the ad
> would read--e.g.
>
> "Beat up old Aster (blank) for sale. Scratchily assembled by old man. Many
> many hours of running,  two wrecks, three track fires. Will still fire up
> if you are willing to fiddle for two hours. Comes with bottle of Tanqueray
> to drink while fiddling."

I don't know about the rest of the crowd, but personally, I'd be much more
inclined to bid on that offer!  Hmmm, let me check my pockets:  a quarter
of a dollar, three quarters of a pound, half a Euro, and 3,000 won.  Think
that would win?  :-)

- - Steve

 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Royce Woodbury]

steve speck wrote:

>   Think what would be involved to set
> up tooling, then to make each part, fit each part, finish, then make it all
> work.Steve S.
>

If i had the time & the money, i'd PAY someone $16000 to let me do it for them.

royce in SB
 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Geoff Spenceley]

Thanks Harry,

Too many hobbyists seem to enjoy being snotty about Aster. They have been a
tremendous asset to the hobby and even if you never buy one, can't afford
to,  or never  have the intention,  they have helped you in some way or
another. The Big Boy is certainly expensive but some consider them as an
asset, like buying stock or bonds. It is a shame they sit and don't run,
but don't knock the investors--each to his own. They help keep Aster in
business which is important to many of us. Also, re Aster products, There
are very few sources  for Brit 1/32 locos and they are more expensive when
built by individuals. Aster produces what the market will bear, not to
produce them  necessarily for investors, and I have never seen them
advertise in that  manner.

So lets keep this hobby on a sensible level, we are all in it together, we
should help each other.  Example: I think this Ruby-versus- Roundhouse got
a bit out of hand--I like both and would like to have both if they  were
built to my  preferred scale.

Geoff.





At 09:30 AM 11/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>>Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster
>>standards, and then assemble it for you.
>
> Let's say that there was no Aster Big Boy but you wanted a custom
>builder to make one for you to the same or better technical, mechanical,
>and appearance standard as the Aster.  The time/cost of development,
>engineering and mastering, one such a model would far exceed the time/cost
>of construction. At least with Aster the development costs are spread out
>over several hundred units and thus put them within reach of someone.
>
>Regards,
>Harry
>


 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[steve speck]

Thanks Harry,  that is the only point I was trying to make.  Most things 
that are of quality, and produced in a limited run appreciate in value, not 
just loco's.  I also do not hold it against someone to make that 
appreciation or profit at time of sale.  Also, what's the big deal if 
someone does not have the time or want to run the wheels off there loco's 
and do enjoy them on display and only run them occasionally? $16,000  looks 
more reasonable when you factor all this in.  But the great thing is that 
you do not have to spend that kind of money to enjoy live steam. Look at 
all the new inexpensive loco's that are out there from Roundhouse and 
others.   Steve S.


At 11:11 AM 11/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
At 09:30 AM 11/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster
>standards, and then assemble it for you.

 Let's say that there was no Aster Big Boy but you wanted a custom
builder to make one for you to the same or better technical, mechanical,
and appearance standard as the Aster.  The time/cost of development,
engineering and mastering, one such a model would far exceed the time/cost
of construction. At least with Aster the development costs are spread out
over several hundred units and thus put them within reach of someone.

Regards,
Harry

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Harry Wade]

At 09:30 AM 11/17/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster 
>standards, and then assemble it for you.

 Let's say that there was no Aster Big Boy but you wanted a custom
builder to make one for you to the same or better technical, mechanical,
and appearance standard as the Aster.  The time/cost of development,
engineering and mastering, one such a model would far exceed the time/cost
of construction. At least with Aster the development costs are spread out
over several hundred units and thus put them within reach of someone.

Regards,
Harry
 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Cgnr]

In a message dated 11/17/02 7:31:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster 
 standards, and then assemble it for you >>
Unfortunately, no modeler could ever compare to the comparatives of CNC 
machining to whatever degree it is taken.  One of many will never outweigh to 
the uniqueness of the "only one".
Bob 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[Tag Gorton]

On 17/11/02 15:30, "steve speck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster
> standards, and then assemble it for you.  Even if you found someone that
> could do this for you, I believe that  the time and expense that this would
> involve for a master metal worker and model builder to do such a job would
> make the $16,000.00  seem reasonable.  Think what would be involved to set
> up tooling, then to make each part, fit each part, finish, then make it all
> work.Steve S.


H! One might say the same about a video recorder and come to a similar
conclusion!  The fact is that this is a manufactured item that has an
inflated secondhand price based on perceived investment value. Many of these
models offered for sale seem to have been steamed but once.
Each to his own, but I see no pleasure in stuffed steam and very much hope
that no one sees fit to "collect" in my particular scale.  This sort of
thing can only serve to help put the real hobby out of reach for many
people.

-- 

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
 

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[steve speck]

Try to get someone to custom machine, fit and finish a Big Boy to Aster 
standards, and then assemble it for you.  Even if you found someone that 
could do this for you, I believe that  the time and expense that this would 
involve for a master metal worker and model builder to do such a job would 
make the $16,000.00  seem reasonable.  Think what would be involved to set 
up tooling, then to make each part, fit each part, finish, then make it all 
work.Steve S.



At 04:22 AM 11/17/02 -0800, you wrote:
Unfired or not, anyone who pays $16,000 for a Big Boy is a SUCKER!!!

$13,000 for a Daylight is, of course, way off base also.

Neither 'Buy it Now' has been taken yet (and I don't think anyone will).

Mint Condition:
Big Boy = $10k - $12k
Daylight = $8k - $10

I'll wait for Accucraft's Cab Forward to blow a ton of cash...

Re: Instant Aster Collection

[J.D. Toumanian]

Unfired or not, anyone who pays $16,000 for a Big Boy is a SUCKER!!!

$13,000 for a Daylight is, of course, way off base also.

Neither 'Buy it Now' has been taken yet (and I don't think anyone will).

Mint Condition:
Big Boy = $10k - $12k
Daylight = $8k - $10

I'll wait for Accucraft's Cab Forward to blow a ton of cash...
 

Re: Fwd: Re: instant Aster collection

[Don Plasterer]

About 4 years ago an Aster Big Boy was going for about $10,000.  If this one 
sold for almost $16,000 I'd say the return beat most of my mutual funds over 
ther period by a long shot!!

Don


From: steve speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: instant Aster collection
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 23:19:43 -0600



Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:59:27 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: steve speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: instant Aster collection

Why all the negative responses?  Who knows, maybe these loco's are just 
like the seller says, and since he may have purchased them at original 
issue price they have become a great return for his investment.  Has 
anyone checked what CD's are paying lately...?
Steve S.




At 08:07 AM 11/15/02 +, you wrote:
On 15/11/02 6:23, "Tom Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm surprised at the number of live steam locos on sale at eBay and 
other
> sites that say the owner only ran them once or twice.  Sad.


While I never say how many steam locomotives I have (in case this
information gets back to the present Mrs Gorton) -all are working
locomotives and all have been altered and improved.  When I read about 
these
sad sack collections I am always reminded of Donald Ducks uncle, sitting 
bad
temperedly on his pile of gold.
--

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash






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Fwd: Re: instant Aster collection

[steve speck]

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:59:27 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: steve speck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: instant Aster collection

Why all the negative responses?  Who knows, maybe these loco's are just 
like the seller says, and since he may have purchased them at original 
issue price they have become a great return for his investment.  Has 
anyone checked what CD's are paying lately...?
Steve S.




At 08:07 AM 11/15/02 +, you wrote:
On 15/11/02 6:23, "Tom Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm surprised at the number of live steam locos on sale at eBay and other
> sites that say the owner only ran them once or twice.  Sad.


While I never say how many steam locomotives I have (in case this
information gets back to the present Mrs Gorton) -all are working
locomotives and all have been altered and improved.  When I read about these
sad sack collections I am always reminded of Donald Ducks uncle, sitting bad
temperedly on his pile of gold.
--

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash

Re: instant Aster collection

[WaltSwartz]

Nero fiddled while Rome burned, Geoff fiddles while his Aster burns!
Keep your steam up!
B. W. Lunkenheimer
PS we will be off line for a few days starting Monday. Third attack on "The 
Hernia from Hell." Will also be closing out the AOL account. Don't need 
another mortgage, don't need to enlarge anything, and hate to take pills, and 
I don't give a DxxN who's wife or girlfriend just got a web cam! New address 
will be:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: instant Aster collection

[Geoff Spenceley]

Yes, it's sad indeed. IF I was to sell one of my Asters on ebay the ad
would read--e.g.

"Beat up old Aster (blank) for sale. Scratchily assembled by old man. Many
many hours of running,  two wrecks, three track fires. Will still fire up
if you are willing to fiddle for two hours. Comes with bottle of Tanqueray
to drink while fiddling."

Geoff


On 15/11/02 6:23, "Tom Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised at the number of live steam locos on sale at eBay and other
>> sites that say the owner only ran them once or twice.  Sad.
>
>
>While I never say how many steam locomotives I have (in case this
>information gets back to the present Mrs Gorton) -all are working
>locomotives and all have been altered and improved.  When I read about these
>sad sack collections I am always reminded of Donald Ducks uncle, sitting bad
>temperedly on his pile of gold.
>--
>
>Yours Aye
>
>Tag Gorton
>Longlands & Western Railway
>Trematon Office
>Saltash
>
>Cornwall
>
>Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
>


 

RE: instant Aster collection

[Ciambrone, Steve @ OS]

Ebay still shows it active.

Steve Ciambrone

> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Walters [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 3:18 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
> Subject:      RE: instant Aster collection
> 
> The Big Boy sold fast.  $15,999 on a 'Buy It Now'.
> 
> My Best,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> Charles W. Walters
> Twin Lakes Railway CEO
> http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sslivesteam@;colegroup.com]On
> Behalf Of VR Bass
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:08 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
> Subject: instant Aster collection
> 
> 
> Here's your chance to acquire an instant Prestige Aster Collection, thanks
> to eBay
> and somebody who bought a bunch of high-end locos and never even ran them.
> (He
> states this with an air of pride)
> 
> Daylight <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1788615613>
> Big Boy <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1788615613>
> 
> Makes you wonder (well, it makes ME wonder).
> 
> -vance-
> 
> 
>   

RE: instant Aster collection

[Chuck Walters]

The Big Boy sold fast.  $15,999 on a 'Buy It Now'.

My Best,

Chuck

Charles W. Walters
Twin Lakes Railway CEO
http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sslivesteam@;colegroup.com]On
Behalf Of VR Bass
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 1:08 AM
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Subject: instant Aster collection


Here's your chance to acquire an instant Prestige Aster Collection, thanks
to eBay
and somebody who bought a bunch of high-end locos and never even ran them.
(He
states this with an air of pride)

Daylight 
Big Boy 

Makes you wonder (well, it makes ME wonder).

-vance-


 

Re: instant Aster collection

[Tag Gorton]

On 15/11/02 6:23, "Tom Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm surprised at the number of live steam locos on sale at eBay and other
> sites that say the owner only ran them once or twice.  Sad.


While I never say how many steam locomotives I have (in case this
information gets back to the present Mrs Gorton) -all are working
locomotives and all have been altered and improved.  When I read about these
sad sack collections I am always reminded of Donald Ducks uncle, sitting bad
temperedly on his pile of gold.
-- 

Yours Aye

Tag Gorton
Longlands & Western Railway
Trematon Office
Saltash

Cornwall

Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
 

RE: instant Aster collection

[Tom Hudson]

I'm surprised at the number of live steam locos on sale at eBay and other
sites that say the owner only ran them once or twice.  Sad.

-Tom

> -Original Message-
> Here's your chance to acquire an instant Prestige Aster
> Collection, thanks to eBay
> and somebody who bought a bunch of high-end locos and never even
> ran them.  (He
> states this with an air of pride)