Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-19 Thread Geeta Ramani
Danilo:

Is there a chapter or two which you could make available on-line for a
preview..?  :)

Geeta

Danilo Gurovich wrote:

 Actually, a struts cookbook is just in the finishing stages.  George
 Franciscus and I have been hard at work at it for the last year, and
 it's in final review.


Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-19 Thread Jignesh Patel
Good Suggestion,

-Jignesh
On Friday 19 March 2004 18:17, Geeta Ramani wrote:
 Danilo:

 Is there a chapter or two which you could make available on-line for a
 preview..?  :)

 Geeta

 Danilo Gurovich wrote:
  Actually, a struts cookbook is just in the finishing stages.  George
  Franciscus and I have been hard at work at it for the last year, and
  it's in final review.


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RE: Struts cookbook

2004-03-19 Thread Danilo Gurovich
I think that publication of chapters must happen through Manning's site. I'm
contractually bound to work within their parameters concerning publication
of materials.  I'm sure that the Manning site will announce and publish some
teasers as soon as they can, as they are anxious to get the book to market.

We (George and I) still want to incorporate our final changes and
suggestions from the reviewers (Cedric DuMoulin, Joe Germuska, Steve
Raeburn, et.al.).  Check http://books.manning.com/  for the announcement.



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Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Andy Engle
Hi all,

I am a huge fan of O'Reilly's cookbooks, which seem to contain a good
deal of useful material for doing all sorts of different things.  Today
I thought about the idea of making a Struts cookbook, although two
things would be different from how O'Reilly does it:

1. It wouldn't be a published book, but rather a web site, and
2. I'm not going to be writing all of it

With that in mind, I would like to ask all of you (who I have received
some excellent advice from, by the way) if any of you would be
interested in contributing material to such a web site.  I simply don't
have the time or experience to come up with everything, but I'm sure
that collectively we could put something together that could be pretty
slick.  I could easily host the site, and perhaps simply organize all
of the information I receive from you.  I appreciate all the
information already available with Struts, but I also like it when I
can simply look it up and be done with it.

I would like to see recipes posted there that cover everything from how
to do stuff with tags, iBatis, tiles, and whatever else.  Even delving
into other stuff like web services and how that ties in with Struts
would be good.  I don't want to focus so much on concept as I would
simply how to get something done quickly and easily.

What do you think?  Good idea?  Dumb idea?  I'm interested in your
thoughts on such a thing.  Looking forward to hearing from you.


Regards,
Andy


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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Hubert Rabago
I've had this idea for months now and actually had some entries already
written (with full web apps to illustrate) and I've also started collecting
cookbook entries from responses to this mailing list.  I was in the process
of writing the app to hold them late last year but got sidetracked.  

So yes, I'm interested and would certainly participate.  What did you have in
mind?  Where do you plan to host this?  What would the interface be?  Would
it contain just code samples or would there be some way to also attach actual
files/classes?

Hubert


--- Andy Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am a huge fan of O'Reilly's cookbooks, which seem to contain a good
 deal of useful material for doing all sorts of different things.  Today
 I thought about the idea of making a Struts cookbook, although two
 things would be different from how O'Reilly does it:
 
 1. It wouldn't be a published book, but rather a web site, and
 2. I'm not going to be writing all of it
 
 With that in mind, I would like to ask all of you (who I have received
 some excellent advice from, by the way) if any of you would be
 interested in contributing material to such a web site.  I simply don't
 have the time or experience to come up with everything, but I'm sure
 that collectively we could put something together that could be pretty
 slick.  I could easily host the site, and perhaps simply organize all
 of the information I receive from you.  I appreciate all the
 information already available with Struts, but I also like it when I
 can simply look it up and be done with it.
 
 I would like to see recipes posted there that cover everything from how
 to do stuff with tags, iBatis, tiles, and whatever else.  Even delving
 into other stuff like web services and how that ties in with Struts
 would be good.  I don't want to focus so much on concept as I would
 simply how to get something done quickly and easily.
 
 What do you think?  Good idea?  Dumb idea?  I'm interested in your
 thoughts on such a thing.  Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
 
 Regards,
 Andy


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RE: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Wendy Smoak
 From: Andy Engle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I could easily host the site, and perhaps simply organize all
 of the information I receive from you.  I appreciate all the
 information already available with Struts, but I also like it when I
 can simply look it up and be done with it.

Wonderful idea... Why not create StrutsCookbook on the Wiki:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?StrutsProjectPages

 I would like to see recipes posted there that cover 
 everything from how to do stuff with tags, iBatis, tiles, and whatever
else.

There is already StrutsCatalog, but that's Best/Common Practices, which
is not, I think, what you're after.  Or maybe it is. :)

-- 
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Application Systems Analyst, Sr.
ASU IA Information Resources Management 

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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Nick Heudecker
Wouldn't this be a great use of the (already existing) Struts Wiki?

On 2004-Mar-18 13:03, Hubert Rabago wrote:
 I've had this idea for months now and actually had some entries already
 written (with full web apps to illustrate) and I've also started collecting
 cookbook entries from responses to this mailing list.  I was in the process
 of writing the app to hold them late last year but got sidetracked.  
 
 So yes, I'm interested and would certainly participate.  What did you have in
 mind?  Where do you plan to host this?  What would the interface be?  Would
 it contain just code samples or would there be some way to also attach actual
 files/classes?
 
 Hubert
 
 
 --- Andy Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I am a huge fan of O'Reilly's cookbooks, which seem to contain a good
  deal of useful material for doing all sorts of different things.  Today
  I thought about the idea of making a Struts cookbook, although two
  things would be different from how O'Reilly does it:
  
  1. It wouldn't be a published book, but rather a web site, and
  2. I'm not going to be writing all of it
  
  With that in mind, I would like to ask all of you (who I have received
  some excellent advice from, by the way) if any of you would be
  interested in contributing material to such a web site.  I simply don't
  have the time or experience to come up with everything, but I'm sure
  that collectively we could put something together that could be pretty
  slick.  I could easily host the site, and perhaps simply organize all
  of the information I receive from you.  I appreciate all the
  information already available with Struts, but I also like it when I
  can simply look it up and be done with it.
  
  I would like to see recipes posted there that cover everything from how
  to do stuff with tags, iBatis, tiles, and whatever else.  Even delving
  into other stuff like web services and how that ties in with Struts
  would be good.  I don't want to focus so much on concept as I would
  simply how to get something done quickly and easily.
  
  What do you think?  Good idea?  Dumb idea?  I'm interested in your
  thoughts on such a thing.  Looking forward to hearing from you.
  
  
  Regards,
  Andy
 
 
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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Andy Engle
Hubert Rabago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've had this idea for months now and actually had some entries
 already written (with full web apps to illustrate) and I've also
 started collecting cookbook entries from responses to this mailing
 list.

Ahh ok, good deal.


 So yes, I'm interested and would certainly participate.  What did you
 have in mind?

I thought it would be best if it is easy to use.  So, the index page
would be an index, but more like a table of contents.  Everything would
be broken down into sections, and then beneath each section would be
the recipes that would be placed in that section, all of which would be
links to the recipes.


 Where do you plan to host this?

I have some space where we can host it.


 What would the interface be?

Well, nothing more than HTML and perhaps a few graphics here and there
to make it look decent.  But not too decent; this is, after all, a
technical web site. :)


 Would it contain just code samples or would there be some way to
 also attach actual files/classes?

I thought it best to just have source code, and then perhaps a links
page where visitors could go to download materials, such as a link to
the Struts page, a link to reumann.net, and so on.  I really want to
focus on the ease of use and usefulness aspects of the site. 

As far as receiving material is concerned, perhaps that could be best
accomplished by a page with a form on it where we could collect the
author's name, e-mail address, topic, and then a textarea where they
could write their recipe.  From there, we'd receive it and simply post
it onto the site, hopefully with very little/no editing involved.  When
the recipe(s) are posted, the author's name will be included at the top
of the page, along with maybe some sort of optional method to contact
the author.


Andy


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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Hubert Rabago

--- Nick Heudecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wouldn't this be a great use of the (already existing) Struts Wiki?

That's right.  I don't think it supports attachments, though.  I really got
started thinking this way because I was thinking of a personal repository of
struts extensions I use in all my projects.  It started from that to a more
generic cookbook, and that's why the attachments remained in my mind
whenever I thought about it.

Of course from there it (in my mind) it grew to a cookbook containing helpful
code samples not just for Struts, but for other frameworks and libraries as
well, such as JSTL.  

Hubert

 On 2004-Mar-18 13:03, Hubert Rabago wrote:
  I've had this idea for months now and actually had some entries already
  written (with full web apps to illustrate) and I've also started
 collecting
  cookbook entries from responses to this mailing list.  I was in the
 process
  of writing the app to hold them late last year but got sidetracked.  
  
  So yes, I'm interested and would certainly participate.  What did you
 have in
  mind?  Where do you plan to host this?  What would the interface be? 
 Would
  it contain just code samples or would there be some way to also attach
 actual
  files/classes?
  
  Hubert
  


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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Hubert Rabago
Yup, sounds like something that the StrutsProjectPages can already fulfill.
:)

--- Andy Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hubert Rabago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've had this idea for months now and actually had some entries
  already written (with full web apps to illustrate) and I've also
  started collecting cookbook entries from responses to this mailing
  list.
 
 Ahh ok, good deal.
 
 
  So yes, I'm interested and would certainly participate.  What did you
  have in mind?
 
 I thought it would be best if it is easy to use.  So, the index page
 would be an index, but more like a table of contents.  Everything would
 be broken down into sections, and then beneath each section would be
 the recipes that would be placed in that section, all of which would be
 links to the recipes.
 
 
  Where do you plan to host this?
 
 I have some space where we can host it.
 
 
  What would the interface be?
 
 Well, nothing more than HTML and perhaps a few graphics here and there
 to make it look decent.  But not too decent; this is, after all, a
 technical web site. :)
 
 
  Would it contain just code samples or would there be some way to
  also attach actual files/classes?
 
 I thought it best to just have source code, and then perhaps a links
 page where visitors could go to download materials, such as a link to
 the Struts page, a link to reumann.net, and so on.  I really want to
 focus on the ease of use and usefulness aspects of the site. 
 
 As far as receiving material is concerned, perhaps that could be best
 accomplished by a page with a form on it where we could collect the
 author's name, e-mail address, topic, and then a textarea where they
 could write their recipe.  From there, we'd receive it and simply post
 it onto the site, hopefully with very little/no editing involved.  When
 the recipe(s) are posted, the author's name will be included at the top
 of the page, along with maybe some sort of optional method to contact
 the author.
 
 
 Andy
 
 

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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Martin Cooper

Hubert Rabago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 --- Nick Heudecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wouldn't this be a great use of the (already existing) Struts Wiki?

 That's right.  I don't think it supports attachments, though.

The current one does not, but we (meaning Struts) will be moving to a new
wiki pretty soon, and that one does support attached files.

--
Martin Cooper


 I really got
 started thinking this way because I was thinking of a personal repository
of
 struts extensions I use in all my projects.  It started from that to a
more
 generic cookbook, and that's why the attachments remained in my mind
 whenever I thought about it.

 Of course from there it (in my mind) it grew to a cookbook containing
helpful
 code samples not just for Struts, but for other frameworks and libraries
as
 well, such as JSTL.

 Hubert

  On 2004-Mar-18 13:03, Hubert Rabago wrote:
   I've had this idea for months now and actually had some entries
already
   written (with full web apps to illustrate) and I've also started
  collecting
   cookbook entries from responses to this mailing list.  I was in the
  process
   of writing the app to hold them late last year but got sidetracked.
  
   So yes, I'm interested and would certainly participate.  What did you
  have in
   mind?  Where do you plan to host this?  What would the interface be?
  Would
   it contain just code samples or would there be some way to also attach
  actual
   files/classes?
  
   Hubert
  


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Re: Struts cookbook

2004-03-18 Thread Danilo Gurovich








Actually, a struts cookbook is just in the finishing
stages. George Franciscus and I have been hard at work at it for the last
year, and it's in final review. Manning will publish it during the
last part of the next quarter.



I got into the project for the same reason that others on
the list are talking about it. Lots of books out there with theory and general
knowledge (some of it great, some of it not so great!), but not much in the way
of implementation, good solid explanations, or integration with other
technologies and tools, like Hibernate, StrutsTestCase, the struts-layout tag
library, Ant, etc.



We hope that we've addressed many of these to the
satisfaction of the community. It's not an easy thing to do!



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