Re: working with a team
Stephen Smithstone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Have u tried sharing the drive as a network drive with permissions on it ?? then get the jsp developer to map the network to a drive on his computer We aren't even in the same county, so this will be a little hard. I guess a good question to ask would be, can an ant script build on a remote computer? I think the answer to this is yes, but of course I have to figure out how to do it ;( I guess CVS is the way to go...sure would be nice if someone wrote an article on this though. Sometimes the hardest part is just setting everything up. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Personally, I'm not finding Windows to be less expensive to administer, but those security holes--that'll kill 'em, -- Al Gillen, IDC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: working with a team
Stephen Smithstone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Have u tried sharing the drive as a network drive with permissions on it ?? then get the jsp developer to map the network to a drive on his computer We aren't even in the same county, so this will be a little hard. I guess a good question to ask would be, can an ant script build on a remote computer? I think the answer to this is yes, but of course I have to figure out how to do it ;( I guess CVS is the way to go...sure would be nice if someone wrote an article on this though. Sometimes the hardest part is just setting everything up. If the main thing that you're after is JSP's, just have your markup dude FTP the JSP's directly into the web app, and have the servlet container reload them automatically without restart?... Static resources like images will be naturally handled. If you run Resin, it'll recompile the java classes on the fly too. Arron. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So far I don't see much I like. If the JSP developer uploads right to the webapp then my web resources are out of sync. That means if I make a tweak to the JSP the next time he uploads, poof. That is damn ugly. The best scenario is as follows. There is a single CVS repository. I have tomcat (or whatever) running and he does too. We both checkout the original source. He messes with the JSPs, reloads he local app, get's it all tweaked. Then, he CVS commits all changes. I do the same. At the end of the day, week or whatever interval, the CVS version is checked out into a war file and deployed. The last step is the only tricky part, I will have to make an ant script for that. This brings me to my next question, which may be container specific. Don't let this throw off the topic of the post, maybe a quick little reponse. If I copy over a new version of the *.war file for an app, why doesn't the container redeploy it over the old version? It seems like once a war has been deployed, you have to nix the whole folder, restart the container and copy in the new war. It would seem to me the container should check the timestamp of the war against the folder or something and if it is newer, redeploy it. This also causes issues with files that were removed from the war, which are now trash files and left in the deployed app. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The package said 'Windows 95 or better', so I installed Linux - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What is your container? I have JBoss and when I redeploy a webapp in a .war file everything's fine. When I redeploy a webapp in expanded format I need only touch the web.xml file and JBoss redeploys the app automatically. Hope this helps. Drago -Original Message- From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:39 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: working with a team So far I don't see much I like. If the JSP developer uploads right to the webapp then my web resources are out of sync. That means if I make a tweak to the JSP the next time he uploads, poof. That is damn ugly. The best scenario is as follows. There is a single CVS repository. I have tomcat (or whatever) running and he does too. We both checkout the original source. He messes with the JSPs, reloads he local app, get's it all tweaked. Then, he CVS commits all changes. I do the same. At the end of the day, week or whatever interval, the CVS version is checked out into a war file and deployed. The last step is the only tricky part, I will have to make an ant script for that. This brings me to my next question, which may be container specific. Don't let this throw off the topic of the post, maybe a quick little reponse. If I copy over a new version of the *.war file for an app, why doesn't the container redeploy it over the old version? It seems like once a war has been deployed, you have to nix the whole folder, restart the container and copy in the new war. It would seem to me the container should check the timestamp of the war against the folder or something and if it is newer, redeploy it. This also causes issues with files that were removed from the war, which are now trash files and left in the deployed app. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The package said 'Windows 95 or better', so I installed Linux - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: working with a team
We have a team of several jsp and ejb developers. We all develop and unit test with local instances of the application and communicate our changes via CVS. Only when we are ready for a release do we commit the latest to a server. We agree that several JSP developers working off the same deployment is a Bad Thing, so we don't. As for struts-config management, that too can be problematic. We avoid those issues as well by using XDoclet. chris - Original Message - From: Dan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts-User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: working with a team I am looking for some advice/articles on setting up my struts application so that all members of the team can all work with it. Let me first state my situation/dilemma and let you know what I am looking for. 1. I have a source tree (/home/me/src/struts/projects/project1) outside of the web folder (ie /var/tomcat/webapps) where I am coding. When I change a source file I run `ant build` and `ant reload`, if I just change a web file, I run `ant update`. All of these processes copy the files into the /var/tomcat4/webapps/project1 folder and change the state of the running application (if necessary) 2. My JSP developer, working on his own computer, copies down all the web files, modifies the ones he is working on and ftps them back to the source folder 3. I then have to run `ant update` to move the web files to the container. This is obviously not the way to do things, but we just got started using struts 2 weeks ago and haven't had a chance to organize things. Now it is time to organize things. I am running Eclipse and it makes it very easy to rebuild and restart the application or container, but I am not sure how to handle the case of multiple developers on mutiple computers. In short, how does the JSP developer update the web content and restart the application from a remote computer and still keep the files in sync with what I am working on? I have CVS experience and I guess I could setup CVS, but that still doesn't handle the issue that the source repository is outside of the container and something needs to move the files into the container and possibly restart the applicaiton or container if necessary (if there is a change to struts-config.xml or tiles-definitions.xml). My JSP developer is coming from the viewpoint of just uploading a page and being able to access it, so this is all foreign to him. Since an action must proceed every page, it is necessary to restart the application each time a change to struts-config.xml is made. Plus, the JSP developer has to use struts-console (or edit by hand, prone to error) the struts-config.xml file. I am looking for a tutorial on setting up a team to run struts. Anyone, any info, please! Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Windows is packaged with Solitaire (ooh)! Linux is distributed with Doom... you can have your deck of cards, I'll take a chainsaw! -- Linus Torvalds - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: working with a team
seem to me the container should check the timestamp of the war against the folder or something and if it is newer, redeploy it. This also causes issues with files that were removed from the war, which are now trash files and left in the deployed app. One a container redeploys your war it will clean out the old deploy. So unless your 'trash files' are still in the new war it will not get redeployed. Also if you are having struts-config management issues but dont want to use xdoclet. It is possible to separate out the files on ur own. Just use XML include statements within the master file to bring it all together. There's are several article that talk about this (One by Chuck Cavaness is 'Seven Lessons from the Trenches [Oct 30, 2002 - OnJava.com]). -Tim -Original Message- From: Chris Trawick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:46 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: working with a team We have a team of several jsp and ejb developers. We all develop and unit test with local instances of the application and communicate our changes via CVS. Only when we are ready for a release do we commit the latest to a server. We agree that several JSP developers working off the same deployment is a Bad Thing, so we don't. As for struts-config management, that too can be problematic. We avoid those issues as well by using XDoclet. chris - Original Message - From: Dan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts-User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: working with a team I am looking for some advice/articles on setting up my struts application so that all members of the team can all work with it. Let me first state my situation/dilemma and let you know what I am looking for. 1. I have a source tree (/home/me/src/struts/projects/project1) outside of the web folder (ie /var/tomcat/webapps) where I am coding. When I change a source file I run `ant build` and `ant reload`, if I just change a web file, I run `ant update`. All of these processes copy the files into the /var/tomcat4/webapps/project1 folder and change the state of the running application (if necessary) 2. My JSP developer, working on his own computer, copies down all the web files, modifies the ones he is working on and ftps them back to the source folder 3. I then have to run `ant update` to move the web files to the container. This is obviously not the way to do things, but we just got started using struts 2 weeks ago and haven't had a chance to organize things. Now it is time to organize things. I am running Eclipse and it makes it very easy to rebuild and restart the application or container, but I am not sure how to handle the case of multiple developers on mutiple computers. In short, how does the JSP developer update the web content and restart the application from a remote computer and still keep the files in sync with what I am working on? I have CVS experience and I guess I could setup CVS, but that still doesn't handle the issue that the source repository is outside of the container and something needs to move the files into the container and possibly restart the applicaiton or container if necessary (if there is a change to struts-config.xml or tiles-definitions.xml). My JSP developer is coming from the viewpoint of just uploading a page and being able to access it, so this is all foreign to him. Since an action must proceed every page, it is necessary to restart the application each time a change to struts-config.xml is made. Plus, the JSP developer has to use struts-console (or edit by hand, prone to error) the struts-config.xml file. I am looking for a tutorial on setting up a team to run struts. Anyone, any info, please! Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Windows is packaged with Solitaire (ooh)! Linux is distributed with Doom... you can have your deck of cards, I'll take a chainsaw! -- Linus Torvalds - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am looking for some advice/articles on setting up my struts application so that all members of the team can all work with it. Let me first state my situation/dilemma and let you know what I am looking for. 1. I have a source tree (/home/me/src/struts/projects/project1) outside of the web folder (ie /var/tomcat/webapps) where I am coding. When I change a source file I run `ant build` and `ant reload`, if I just change a web file, I run `ant update`. All of these processes copy the files into the /var/tomcat4/webapps/project1 folder and change the state of the running application (if necessary) 2. My JSP developer, working on his own computer, copies down all the web files, modifies the ones he is working on and ftps them back to the source folder 3. I then have to run `ant update` to move the web files to the container. This is obviously not the way to do things, but we just got started using struts 2 weeks ago and haven't had a chance to organize things. Now it is time to organize things. I am running Eclipse and it makes it very easy to rebuild and restart the application or container, but I am not sure how to handle the case of multiple developers on mutiple computers. In short, how does the JSP developer update the web content and restart the application from a remote computer and still keep the files in sync with what I am working on? I have CVS experience and I guess I could setup CVS, but that still doesn't handle the issue that the source repository is outside of the container and something needs to move the files into the container and possibly restart the applicaiton or container if necessary (if there is a change to struts-config.xml or tiles-definitions.xml). My JSP developer is coming from the viewpoint of just uploading a page and being able to access it, so this is all foreign to him. Since an action must proceed every page, it is necessary to restart the application each time a change to struts-config.xml is made. Plus, the JSP developer has to use struts-console (or edit by hand, prone to error) the struts-config.xml file. I am looking for a tutorial on setting up a team to run struts. Anyone, any info, please! Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Windows is packaged with Solitaire (ooh)! Linux is distributed with Doom... you can have your deck of cards, I'll take a chainsaw! -- Linus Torvalds - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: working with a team
Have u tried sharing the drive as a network drive with permissions on it ?? then get the jsp developer to map the network to a drive on his computer On Friday 21 March 2003 5:01 am, Dan Allen wrote: I am looking for some advice/articles on setting up my struts application so that all members of the team can all work with it. Let me first state my situation/dilemma and let you know what I am looking for. 1. I have a source tree (/home/me/src/struts/projects/project1) outside of the web folder (ie /var/tomcat/webapps) where I am coding. When I change a source file I run `ant build` and `ant reload`, if I just change a web file, I run `ant update`. All of these processes copy the files into the /var/tomcat4/webapps/project1 folder and change the state of the running application (if necessary) 2. My JSP developer, working on his own computer, copies down all the web files, modifies the ones he is working on and ftps them back to the source folder 3. I then have to run `ant update` to move the web files to the container. This is obviously not the way to do things, but we just got started using struts 2 weeks ago and haven't had a chance to organize things. Now it is time to organize things. I am running Eclipse and it makes it very easy to rebuild and restart the application or container, but I am not sure how to handle the case of multiple developers on mutiple computers. In short, how does the JSP developer update the web content and restart the application from a remote computer and still keep the files in sync with what I am working on? I have CVS experience and I guess I could setup CVS, but that still doesn't handle the issue that the source repository is outside of the container and something needs to move the files into the container and possibly restart the applicaiton or container if necessary (if there is a change to struts-config.xml or tiles-definitions.xml). My JSP developer is coming from the viewpoint of just uploading a page and being able to access it, so this is all foreign to him. Since an action must proceed every page, it is necessary to restart the application each time a change to struts-config.xml is made. Plus, the JSP developer has to use struts-console (or edit by hand, prone to error) the struts-config.xml file. I am looking for a tutorial on setting up a team to run struts. Anyone, any info, please! Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, can the developers just run tests locally, then when they are ready to integrate, they can use CVS to move files to Project1, and your ant script can just jar,war, and ear the project into the destination directory. Instead of having 3 copies of each of the directory stuctures, the target is essentially 1 file packaged up. _ Thank You Mick Knutson Sr. Designer - Project Trust aUBS AG, Financial - Zürich Office: +41 (0)1/234.42.75 Internal: 48194 Mobile: 079.726.14.26 _ -Original Message- From: Dan Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:02 AM To: Struts-User List Subject: working with a team I am looking for some advice/articles on setting up my struts application so that all members of the team can all work with it. Let me first state my situation/dilemma and let you know what I am looking for. 1. I have a source tree (/home/me/src/struts/projects/project1) outside of the web folder (ie /var/tomcat/webapps) where I am coding. When I change a source file I run `ant build` and `ant reload`, if I just change a web file, I run `ant update`. All of these processes copy the files into the /var/tomcat4/webapps/project1 folder and change the state of the running application (if necessary) 2. My JSP developer, working on his own computer, copies down all the web files, modifies the ones he is working on and ftps them back to the source folder 3. I then have to run `ant update` to move the web files to the container. This is obviously not the way to do things, but we just got started using struts 2 weeks ago and haven't had a chance to organize things. Now it is time to organize things. I am running Eclipse and it makes it very easy to rebuild and restart the application or container, but I am not sure how to handle the case of multiple developers on mutiple computers. In short, how does the JSP developer update the web content and restart the application from a remote computer and still keep the files in sync with what I am working on? I have CVS experience and I guess I could setup CVS, but that still doesn't handle the issue that the source repository is outside of the container and something needs to move the files into the container and possibly restart the applicaiton or container if necessary (if there is a change to struts-config.xml or tiles-definitions.xml). My JSP developer is coming from the viewpoint of just uploading a page and being able to access it, so this is all foreign to him. Since an action must proceed every page, it is necessary to restart the application each time a change to struts-config.xml is made. Plus, the JSP developer has to use struts-console (or edit by hand, prone to error) the struts-config.xml file. I am looking for a tutorial on setting up a team to run struts. Anyone, any info, please! Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Windows is packaged with Solitaire (ooh)! Linux is distributed with Doom... you can have your deck of cards, I'll take a chainsaw! -- Linus Torvalds - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
