RE: BSS web site
Richard Isn't it nice to know how much you were missed when you fell ill ;~) Hope you're feeling better now. Andrew Pettit -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Richard Mallett Sent: 26 November 2009 00:20 To: John Carmichael Cc: 'Andrew James'; sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: BSS web site John Carmichael wrote: This is very bad news Andrew! It's just a guess, but it looks like the British Sundial Society might have let its Domain Name registration expire and it was purchased by this lawn supply business! The British Sundial Society needs to look into this problem immediately! Who is the webmaster? John Carmichael That would be me. As luck would have it, I have been ill today, but I hope it will be sorted out tomorrow. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
BSS web site
Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 2199653 Measure - Inform - Empower This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s).If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Wow! I think you are right. Look on the bright side, sundials are often on lawns, lawns need mowing, hence the connection:) Simon www.illustratingshadows.com --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk wrote: From: Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk Subject: BSS web site To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 3:55 AM Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 2199653 Measure - Inform - Empower This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s).If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
In message 84fe788428c5064ab2097694206a3309035c7...@exchpri.pri.com, Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk writes Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James Andrew My link to the BSS website seems OK. at 3.00pm today. Has your PC been hi-jacked? -- Mike Isaacs --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: BSS web site
This is very bad news Andrew! It's just a guess, but it looks like the British Sundial Society might have let its Domain Name registration expire and it was purchased by this lawn supply business! The British Sundial Society needs to look into this problem immediately! Who is the webmaster? John Carmichael -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Andrew James Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:56 AM To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: BSS web site Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 2199653 Measure - Inform - Empower This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s).If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Try clearing your web browser cache and see if you still get through. I can't. -- Richard Langley Quoting Mike Isaacs m...@mdji.co.uk: In message 84fe788428c5064ab2097694206a3309035c7...@exchpri.pri.com, Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk writes Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James Andrew My link to the BSS website seems OK. at 3.00pm today. Has your PC been hi-jacked? -- Mike Isaacs --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial === Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/ === --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Are you sure you got the site and not your own computer's cached version? Simon --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Mike Isaacs m...@mdji.co.uk wrote: From: Mike Isaacs m...@mdji.co.uk Subject: Re: BSS web site To: Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk Cc: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 7:58 AM In message 84fe788428c5064ab2097694206a3309035c7...@exchpri.pri.com, Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk writes Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James Andrew My link to the BSS website seems OK. at 3.00pm today. Has your PC been hi-jacked? -- Mike Isaacs --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: BSS web site
Does anyone know the actual IP address of the true site? If so, you could connect to it, I think, by using the IP number as the URL. -- Richard Langley Quoting John Carmichael jlcarmich...@comcast.net: I tested the link http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ on both Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer after deleting the browsing history caches of both, and that stupid lawn website keeps coming up. Note that on that website, there is no way to contact the owners or the webmaster of that site! Note to Dave Bell: Hey Dave, since you know more about webmastering than most of us, could you look at this bogus website and see if there is anything odd about it (a virus maybe?). Could somebody have hijacked the BSS site? Who holds the domain name registration? -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Andrew James Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:56 AM To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: BSS web site Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 2199653 Measure - Inform - Empower This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s).If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial === Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/ === --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: BSS web site
I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm , the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content). When searching with Google for site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.: Webmaster Mr R C Mallett 21 Cantilupe Close Eaton Bray DUNSTABLE Beds. LU6 2EA Tel: 01525 15 Email: 100114@compuserve.com General Secretary Mr G Aldred 4 Sheardhall Avenue Disley, STOCKPORT Cheshire SK12 2DE Tel: 01663 762415 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk Kind regards, Wolfgang Dick --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: BSS web site
And, there is the Way-back Internet archive machine, but the BSS pages haven't been updated for two years there: http://web.archive.org/web/20071019031557/http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ -- Richard Langley Quoting Wolfgang R. Dick wd...@astrohist.org: I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm , the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content). When searching with Google for site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.: Webmaster Mr R C Mallett 21 Cantilupe Close Eaton Bray DUNSTABLE Beds. LU6 2EA Tel: 01525 15 Email: 100114@compuserve.com General Secretary Mr G Aldred 4 Sheardhall Avenue Disley, STOCKPORT Cheshire SK12 2DE Tel: 01663 762415 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk Kind regards, Wolfgang Dick --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial === Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/ === --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
There are info about the owner of a site in http://whois.domaintools.com and the answer for www.sundialssoc.org.uk are not good. it seems to be expired yesterday (24/11) and renewed today, the first registration is 10 years old, the registrant is The British Sundial Society but something is changed in the site profile. Fabio Fabio Savian fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it Paderno Dugnano, Milan, Italy 45° 34' 10'' N 9° 10' 9'' E GMT +1 (DST +2) - Original Message - From: Richard B. Langley l...@unb.ca To: Wolfgang R. Dick wd...@astrohist.org Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: RE: BSS web site And, there is the Way-back Internet archive machine, but the BSS pages haven't been updated for two years there: http://web.archive.org/web/20071019031557/http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ -- Richard Langley Quoting Wolfgang R. Dick wd...@astrohist.org: I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm , the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content). When searching with Google for site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.: Webmaster Mr R C Mallett 21 Cantilupe Close Eaton Bray DUNSTABLE Beds. LU6 2EA Tel: 01525 15 Email: 100114@compuserve.com General Secretary Mr G Aldred 4 Sheardhall Avenue Disley, STOCKPORT Cheshire SK12 2DE Tel: 01663 762415 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk Kind regards, Wolfgang Dick --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial === Richard B. LangleyE-mail: l...@unb.ca Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics EngineeringPhone:+1 506 453-5142 University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/ === --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: BSS web site
The space-holder site seems to be safe, for what that's worth. I think Fabio hit it on the head, with the domain registration expiring. Looks like it was successfully re-registered, so once the DNS information is passed through the system, it should return to accessability. Unfortunately, the IP address in the WhoIs record ( 69.64.155.127 ) is still dead, leading to searchalligator, another fall-back page. Dave I tested the link http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ on both Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer after deleting the browsing history caches of both, and that stupid lawn website keeps coming up. Note that on that website, there is no way to contact the owners or the webmaster of that site! Note to Dave Bell: Hey Dave, since you know more about webmastering than most of us, could you look at this bogus website and see if there is anything odd about it (a virus maybe?). Could somebody have hijacked the BSS site? Who holds the domain name registration? -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Andrew James Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:56 AM To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: BSS web site Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 2199653 Measure - Inform - Empower This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s).If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
bss web site
No skullduggery. They apparently forgot to renew the web site registration. The contact is b...@exford.co.uk if you want to chastise them. It was apparently renewed only today, 11/25/2009 Alex *** --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Andrew James wrote: Dear all I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to sell lawnmowers and such like! What is going on? Andrew James PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 2199653 Measure - Inform - Empower This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s).If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial John Davis (our former treasurer) informs me that our registrar (ENOM) has let our registration expire without giving us any prior warning. I hope that this will be sorted out with ENOM tomorrow. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
John Carmichael wrote: This is very bad news Andrew! It's just a guess, but it looks like the British Sundial Society might have let its Domain Name registration expire and it was purchased by this lawn supply business! The British Sundial Society needs to look into this problem immediately! Who is the webmaster? John Carmichael That would be me. As luck would have it, I have been ill today, but I hope it will be sorted out tomorrow. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
John Carmichael wrote: I tested the link http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ on both Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer after deleting the browsing history caches of both, and that stupid lawn website keeps coming up. Note that on that website, there is no way to contact the owners or the webmaster of that site! Note to Dave Bell: Hey Dave, since you know more about webmastering than most of us, could you look at this bogus website and see if there is anything odd about it (a virus maybe?). Could somebody have hijacked the BSS site? Who holds the domain name registration? ENOM holds the website registration. I tried to contact them by their online support form several times this evening without success, so I guess it will have to be a 'phone call tomorrow. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Wolfgang R. Dick wrote: I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm , the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content). When searching with Google for site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.: Webmaster Mr R C Mallett 21 Cantilupe Close Eaton Bray DUNSTABLE Beds. LU6 2EA Tel: 01525 15 Email: 100114@compuserve.com General Secretary Mr G Aldred 4 Sheardhall Avenue Disley, STOCKPORT Cheshire SK12 2DE Tel: 01663 762415 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk Kind regards, Wolfgang Dick --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial John Davis has contacted me to say that the registrar ENOM have terminated our registration without warning, so I hope it will be sorted out tomorrow. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Richard B. Langley wrote: And, there is the Way-back Internet archive machine, but the BSS pages haven't been updated for two years there: http://web.archive.org/web/20071019031557/http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ -- Richard Langley I don't know what one has to do (if anything) to get archived there. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BSS web site
Fabio Savian wrote: There are info about the owner of a site in http://whois.domaintools.com and the answer for www.sundialssoc.org.uk are not good. it seems to be expired yesterday (24/11) and renewed today, the first registration is 10 years old, the registrant is The British Sundial Society but something is changed in the site profile. Fabio Fabio Savian fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it Paderno Dugnano, Milan, Italy 45° 34' 10'' N 9° 10' 9'' E GMT +1 (DST +2) It says 'last updated Nov. 25th.' but it also says 'Renewal required' so I hope that it can be sorted out tomorrow. -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: bss web site
Alex Botkin wrote: No skullduggery. They apparently forgot to renew the web site registration. The contact is b...@exford.co.uk if you want to chastise them. It was apparently renewed only today, 11/25/2009 Alex Peter Scott of Exford Systems was the BSS webmaster in 2002. We have had a few since then :-) -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: bss web site
Well as we say in Pittsburgh Yinz better redd up That information came from the official registration. Which explains why no one renewed the registration...the renewal notices were going to the wrong person. Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:56:46 + From: 100114@compuserve.com To: alexbot...@businesscalendar.org CC: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: bss web site Alex Botkin wrote: No skullduggery. They apparently forgot to renew the web site registration. The contact is b...@exford.co.uk if you want to chastise them. It was apparently renewed only today, 11/25/2009 Alex Peter Scott of Exford Systems was the BSS webmaster in 2002. We have had a few since then :-) -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly. Last comment in this thread! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS. (DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE) My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-) Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE. However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it first anyway. What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ... Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06 To: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site Hello Richard: It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun program with a palm-held devise. There is hope! I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number? Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion also. John - Original Message - From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter. You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37 To: anselmo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that Anselmo mentioned. Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer? How about Dialist Companion? thanks, John - Original Message - From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo - - - - - - -
RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
Richard Hollands wrote: Last comment in this thread! I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to install and use DC. PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right - the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find it. Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about specific handhelds can be sent directly to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly. Last comment in this thread! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS. (DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE) My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-) Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE. However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it first anyway. What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ... Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06 To: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site Hello Richard: It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun program with a palm-held devise. There is hope! I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number? Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion also. John - Original Message - From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter. You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37 To: anselmo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that Anselmo mentioned. Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer? How about Dialist Companion? thanks, John - Original Message - From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any
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Amazingly, nobody seems to have mentionned the excellent (shareware) program 'Planetarium' for Palm computers, by A. Hofer... It is a complete Planetarium, as the name implies, and gives Rise Set + Transit times, twilight times, and the position of the Sun and planets, even a detailed celestial map. It calculates solstices and many other things. See http://www.aho.ch/pilotplanets Fantastic! A simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise, Set, Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length. It can be found, as well as othe nice programs, on the author's David W. Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/ Highly recommended! There is also info for the development of Palm programs: maybe the source of DC can be used to compile a Palm version? Yet another program is Sol! (shareware) Palm PDAs have the advantage that they use a very stable OS, very compact programs, and a lot of freeware and shareware is available. Look for example at http://www.palmgear.com or www.palmsource.com among many other download sites (Tucows, etc.) Cheers, Thierry 50.5 N 4.3 E Robert Terwilliger wrote: Richard Hollands wrote: Last comment in this thread! I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to install and use DC. PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right - the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find it. Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about specific handhelds can be sent directly to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly. Last comment in this thread! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS. (DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE) My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-) Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE. However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it first anyway. What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ... Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06 To: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site Hello Richard: It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun program with a palm-held devise. There is hope! I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number? Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion also. John - Original Message - From: "Richard Hollands" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Sundial List" sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter. You do need to have _javascript_ enabled for it to work. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37 To: anselmo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able to use either the BSS "Where's the sun" or the Sp
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Thierry van Steenberghe contributed: A simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise, Set, Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length. It can be found, as well as othe nice programs, on the author's David W. Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/ Highly recommended! I had this downloaded and installed on my Palm Tungsten T3 within minutes. It's always nice to have backup/confirmation of calculations and RiseSet does just that with minimum fuss. Magic! Pure magic! Easy to use and freeware too! There are some very kind people in this world. Tony Moss. -
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So you wanna fight, huh? :-) If we're talking about astronomy that provides info useful to dialists:- For Pocket PC: An Ephemeris program from Jonathan Sachs. Has a nice compass feature: point the PC at the Sun (or Moon as appropriate) and it indicates True North. Produces a table of the Sun's position throughout the day. Freeware. Link: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsachs/ You might like his Scientific Calculator too. Nomad Electronics' "Pocket Stars": http://www.nomadelectronics.com/a planetarium program. Rise, Set, Altitude and Azimuth (in real time). $19.99 but incorporates NASA's ephemeris for Sun, Moon and planets for dates in this century. (Back to 1700 if you have 60 Meg spare) If you're real DOS fan you might try looking for Steven Moshier's AA, an ephemeris program for DOS. Another program that uses routines to get NASA-standard accuracy - just what the average dial constructor needs, right? Cheers, Richard -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Thierry van SteenbergheSent: 10 May 2005 16:15To: Robert TerwilligerCc: 'Richard Hollands'; 'John Carmichael'; 'Sundial List'Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web siteAmazingly, nobody seems to have mentionned the excellent (shareware) program 'Planetarium' for Palm computers, by A. Hofer...It is a complete Planetarium, as the name implies, and gives Rise Set + Transit times, twilight times, and the position of the Sun and planets, even a detailed celestial map. It calculates solstices and many other things.See http://www.aho.ch/pilotplanetsFantastic!A simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise, Set, Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length.It can be found, as well as othe nice programs, on the author's David W. Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/Highly recommended!There is also info for the development of Palm programs: maybe the source of DC can be used to compile a Palm version?Yet another program is Sol! (shareware)Palm PDAs have the advantage that they use a very stable OS, very compact programs, and a lot of freeware and shareware is available.Look for example at http://www.palmgear.com or www.palmsource.com among many other download sites (Tucows, etc.)Cheers,Thierry50.5 N 4.3 ERobert Terwilliger wrote: Richard Hollands wrote: Last comment in this thread! I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to install and use DC. PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right - the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find it. Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about specific handhelds can be sent directly to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly. Last comment in this thread! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS. (DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE) My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-) Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE. However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it first anyway. What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ... Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06 To: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site Hello Richard: It's good to know that at least one of y
RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter. You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37 To: anselmo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that Anselmo mentioned. Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer? How about Dialist Companion? thanks, John - Original Message - From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo - - -
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It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun program with a palm-held devise. There is hope! I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number? Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion also. John - Original Message - From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter. You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37 To: anselmo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that Anselmo mentioned. Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer? How about Dialist Companion? thanks, John - Original Message - From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo - - - -
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John, Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS. (DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE) My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-) Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site John, The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE. However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it first anyway. What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ... Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06 To: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site Hello Richard: It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun program with a palm-held devise. There is hope! I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number? Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion also. John - Original Message - From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter. You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37 To: anselmo Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that Anselmo mentioned. Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer? How about Dialist Companion? thanks, John - Original Message - From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo - - - - - -
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to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that Anselmo mentioned. Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer? How about Dialist Companion? thanks, John - Original Message - From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo - -
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ie, zero is north, east is 90 degrees, south is 180 degrees and west is 270 degrees Regards, best wishes and many grateful thanks for adding this additional azimuth box to your excellant programs. David. Message date : May 06 2005, 08:34 AM From : "anselmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To : "Chris Lusby Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Copy to : sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject : Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on "Where is the sun?". It uses _javascript_ embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, "Where is the sun?" has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded _javascript_ and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, "Dialist Companion" soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo - Whatever you WanadooThis email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here
Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Dear all, Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically. I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any interested user (see file UbiSol.js). Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts. Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from it for future versions of UbiSol! :- Anselmo -
Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
Hi All, I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems. Note that the accuracy of the instantaneous EoT and declination should be good to the nearest second, but I don't recalculate them at dawn, noon and dusk, so the quoted times for those may be a few seconds out. As it uses your computer's clock, you can change the time or date, then refresh the page to get the EoT etc at any other time or date. Once you've told it your Lat and Long, it stores them in a cookie, so you only have to do it once (unless you've disabled persistent cookies). Best wishes to you all Chris Lusby Taylor 51.4N 1.3W - Original Message - From: John Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. Tallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software Hi Jim: Your question is a good one. I don't have a handheld computer but maybe this will help. Alain Ferreira yesterday told me that there is a new link on the BSS website that gives almost all essential dialing data for a particular place. All you have to do is enter your coordinates. It's sort of like the Dialist Companion, but a little quicker and easier to use, although it doesn't do quite as much as DC. Go to The Home Page at http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ and click NEW on the left side. Would Dialist Companion work on a Palm-held devise I wonder? Let us know if you are successful in finding software that works. I'm tired of borrowing my friend's laptop when I go out in the field! John - Original Message - From: J. Tallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:20 AM Subject: Handheld dialing software Hello all, Does anyone know if any useful dialing software (for field measurements, altitude/azimuth etc) exists for use on a Palm handheld device? Best, Jim Tallman www.artisanindustrials.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - -