RE: BSS web site

2009-11-26 Thread Andrew Pettit
 Richard

Isn't it nice to know how much you were missed when you fell ill ;~)

Hope you're feeling better now.

Andrew Pettit

-Original Message-
From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of Richard Mallett
Sent: 26 November 2009 00:20
To: John Carmichael
Cc: 'Andrew James'; sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: BSS web site

John Carmichael wrote:
 This is very bad news Andrew!

 It's just a guess, but it looks like the British Sundial Society might 
 have let its Domain Name registration expire and it was purchased by 
 this lawn supply business!  The British Sundial Society needs to look 
 into this problem immediately!  Who is the webmaster?

 John Carmichael
   
That would be me.  As luck would have it, I have been ill today, but I hope
it will be sorted out tomorrow.

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BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Andrew James
Dear all

I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
sell lawnmowers and such like! 

What is going on?

Andrew James


PRI Limited,
PRI House, Moorside Road
Winchester, Hampshire
SO23 7RX United Kingdom   
Tel:  +44 (0) 1962 840048
Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046
www.pri.co.uk
PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 
2199653
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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Simon [illustratingshadows
Wow! I think you are right. Look on the bright side, sundials are often on 
lawns, lawns need mowing, hence the connection:)

Simon
www.illustratingshadows.com

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk wrote:

 From: Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk
 Subject: BSS web site
 To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 3:55 AM
 Dear all
 
 I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have
 been hijacked to
 sell lawnmowers and such like! 
 
 What is going on?
 
 Andrew James
 
 
 PRI Limited,
 PRI House, Moorside Road
 Winchester, Hampshire
 SO23 7RX United Kingdom   
 Tel:  +44 (0) 1962 840048
 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046
 www.pri.co.uk
 PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales
 with company number 2199653
                
                
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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Mike Isaacs
In message 84fe788428c5064ab2097694206a3309035c7...@exchpri.pri.com, 
Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk writes
Dear all

I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
sell lawnmowers and such like!

What is going on?

Andrew James



Andrew

My link to the BSS website seems OK. at 3.00pm today.

Has your PC been hi-jacked?
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RE: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread John Carmichael
This is very bad news Andrew!

It's just a guess, but it looks like the British Sundial Society might have
let its Domain Name registration expire and it was purchased by this lawn
supply business!  The British Sundial Society needs to look into this
problem immediately!  Who is the webmaster? 

John Carmichael



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From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of Andrew James
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:56 AM
To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Subject: BSS web site

Dear all

I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
sell lawnmowers and such like! 

What is going on?

Andrew James


PRI Limited,
PRI House, Moorside Road
Winchester, Hampshire
SO23 7RX United Kingdom   
Tel:  +44 (0) 1962 840048
Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046
www.pri.co.uk
PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number
2199653
   Measure - Inform - Empower
 
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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard B. Langley
Try clearing your web browser cache and see if you still get through. I can't.
-- Richard Langley

Quoting Mike Isaacs m...@mdji.co.uk:

 In message 84fe788428c5064ab2097694206a3309035c7...@exchpri.pri.com, 
 Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk writes
 Dear all
 
 I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
 sell lawnmowers and such like!
 
 What is going on?
 
 Andrew James
 
 
 
 Andrew
 
 My link to the BSS website seems OK. at 3.00pm today.
 
 Has your PC been hi-jacked?
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 University of New Brunswick   Fax:  +1 506 453-4943
 Fredericton, N.B., Canada  E3B 5A3
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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Simon [illustratingshadows
Are you sure you got the site and not your own computer's cached version?

Simon

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Mike Isaacs m...@mdji.co.uk wrote:

 From: Mike Isaacs m...@mdji.co.uk
 Subject: Re: BSS web site
 To: Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk
 Cc: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 7:58 AM
 In message 84fe788428c5064ab2097694206a3309035c7...@exchpri.pri.com,
 
 Andrew James andrew.ja...@pri.co.uk
 writes
 Dear all
 
 I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have
 been hijacked to
 sell lawnmowers and such like!
 
 What is going on?
 
 Andrew James
 
 
 
 Andrew
 
 My link to the BSS website seems OK. at 3.00pm today.
 
 Has your PC been hi-jacked?
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RE: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard B. Langley
Does anyone know the actual IP address of the true site? If so, you could 
connect to it,
I think, by using the IP number as the URL.
-- Richard Langley

Quoting John Carmichael jlcarmich...@comcast.net:

 I tested the link http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ on both Mozilla Firefox and
 Internet Explorer after deleting the browsing history caches of both, and
 that stupid lawn website keeps coming up.  Note that on that website, there
 is no way to contact the owners or the webmaster of that site!
 
 Note to Dave Bell: Hey Dave, since you know more about webmastering than
 most of us, could you look at this bogus website and see if there is
 anything odd about it (a virus maybe?).  Could somebody have hijacked the
 BSS site?  Who holds the domain name registration? 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
 Behalf Of Andrew James
 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:56 AM
 To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Subject: BSS web site
 
 Dear all
 
 I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
 sell lawnmowers and such like! 
 
 What is going on?
 
 Andrew James
 
 
 PRI Limited,
 PRI House, Moorside Road
 Winchester, Hampshire
 SO23 7RX United Kingdom   
 Tel:  +44 (0) 1962 840048
 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046
 www.pri.co.uk
 PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number
 2199653
Measure - Inform - Empower
  
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 University of New Brunswick   Fax:  +1 506 453-4943
 Fredericton, N.B., Canada  E3B 5A3
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RE: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Wolfgang R. Dick
I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site
is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm ,
the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content).

When searching with Google for
site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts
and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page
from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.:

Webmaster

Mr R C Mallett
21 Cantilupe Close
Eaton Bray
DUNSTABLE Beds.   LU6 2EA
Tel: 01525 15
Email: 100114@compuserve.com

General Secretary

Mr G Aldred
4 Sheardhall Avenue
Disley, STOCKPORT
Cheshire  SK12 2DE
Tel: 01663 762415
Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk

Kind regards,
Wolfgang Dick

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RE: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard B. Langley
And, there is the Way-back Internet archive machine, but the BSS pages 
haven't been
updated for two years there:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071019031557/http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/
-- Richard Langley

Quoting Wolfgang R. Dick wd...@astrohist.org:

 I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site
 is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm ,
 the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content).
 
 When searching with Google for
 site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts
 and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page
 from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.:
 
 Webmaster
 
 Mr R C Mallett
 21 Cantilupe Close
 Eaton Bray
 DUNSTABLE Beds.   LU6 2EA
 Tel: 01525 15
 Email: 100114@compuserve.com
 
 General Secretary
 
 Mr G Aldred
 4 Sheardhall Avenue
 Disley, STOCKPORT
 Cheshire  SK12 2DE
 Tel: 01663 762415
 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk
 
 Kind regards,
 Wolfgang Dick
 
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 University of New Brunswick   Fax:  +1 506 453-4943
 Fredericton, N.B., Canada  E3B 5A3
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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Fabio Savian
There are info about the owner of a site in

http://whois.domaintools.com

and the answer for www.sundialssoc.org.uk are not good.

it seems to be expired yesterday (24/11) and renewed today, the first 
registration is 10 years old, the registrant is The British Sundial Society 
but something is changed in the site profile.

Fabio

Fabio Savian
fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
Paderno Dugnano, Milan, Italy
45° 34' 10'' N   9° 10' 9'' E
GMT +1 (DST +2)


- Original Message - 
From: Richard B. Langley l...@unb.ca
To: Wolfgang R. Dick wd...@astrohist.org
Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: BSS web site


 And, there is the Way-back Internet archive machine, but the BSS pages 
 haven't been
 updated for two years there:
 http://web.archive.org/web/20071019031557/http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/
 -- Richard Langley

 Quoting Wolfgang R. Dick wd...@astrohist.org:

 I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web 
 site
 is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm ,
 the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content).

 When searching with Google for
 site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts
 and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses 
 page
 from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, 
 e.g.:

 Webmaster

 Mr R C Mallett
 21 Cantilupe Close
 Eaton Bray
 DUNSTABLE Beds.   LU6 2EA
 Tel: 01525 15
 Email: 100114@compuserve.com

 General Secretary

 Mr G Aldred
 4 Sheardhall Avenue
 Disley, STOCKPORT
 Cheshire  SK12 2DE
 Tel: 01663 762415
 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk

 Kind regards,
 Wolfgang Dick

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 University of New Brunswick   Fax:  +1 506 453-4943
 Fredericton, N.B., Canada  E3B 5A3
 Fredericton?  Where's that?  See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/
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RE: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread dbell
The space-holder site seems to be safe, for what that's worth.
I think Fabio hit it on the head, with the domain registration expiring.
Looks like it was successfully re-registered, so once the DNS information
is passed through the system, it should return to accessability.
Unfortunately, the IP address in the WhoIs record ( 69.64.155.127 ) is
still dead, leading to searchalligator, another fall-back page.

Dave

 I tested the link http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ on both Mozilla Firefox
and
 Internet Explorer after deleting the browsing history caches of both,
and
 that stupid lawn website keeps coming up.  Note that on that website,
there
 is no way to contact the owners or the webmaster of that site!

 Note to Dave Bell: Hey Dave, since you know more about webmastering than
most of us, could you look at this bogus website and see if there is
anything odd about it (a virus maybe?).  Could somebody have hijacked the
 BSS site?  Who holds the domain name registration?




 -Original Message-
 From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]
On
 Behalf Of Andrew James
 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:56 AM
 To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Subject: BSS web site

 Dear all

 I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
sell lawnmowers and such like!

 What is going on?

 Andrew James


 PRI Limited,
 PRI House, Moorside Road
 Winchester, Hampshire
 SO23 7RX United Kingdom
 Tel:  +44 (0) 1962 840048
 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046
 www.pri.co.uk
 PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company
number
 2199653
Measure - Inform - Empower

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bss web site

2009-11-25 Thread Alex Botkin

No skullduggery.  They apparently forgot to renew the web site registration.

The contact is b...@exford.co.uk if you want to chastise them.

It was apparently renewed  only today, 11/25/2009

Alex


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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
Andrew James wrote:
 Dear all

 I thought the British Sundial Society web site was at
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ - but it seems to have been hijacked to
 sell lawnmowers and such like! 

 What is going on?

 Andrew James


 PRI Limited,
 PRI House, Moorside Road
 Winchester, Hampshire
 SO23 7RX United Kingdom   
 Tel:  +44 (0) 1962 840048
 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046
 www.pri.co.uk
 PRI Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 
 2199653
Measure - Inform - Empower
  
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John Davis (our former treasurer) informs me that our registrar (ENOM) 
has let our registration expire without giving us any prior warning.  I 
hope that this will be sorted out with ENOM tomorrow.


-- 
Richard Mallett
Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
John Carmichael wrote:
 This is very bad news Andrew!

 It's just a guess, but it looks like the British Sundial Society might have
 let its Domain Name registration expire and it was purchased by this lawn
 supply business!  The British Sundial Society needs to look into this
 problem immediately!  Who is the webmaster? 

 John Carmichael
   
That would be me.  As luck would have it, I have been ill today, but I 
hope it will be sorted out tomorrow.

-- 
Richard Mallett
Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
John Carmichael wrote:
 I tested the link http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ on both Mozilla Firefox and
 Internet Explorer after deleting the browsing history caches of both, and
 that stupid lawn website keeps coming up.  Note that on that website, there
 is no way to contact the owners or the webmaster of that site!

 Note to Dave Bell: Hey Dave, since you know more about webmastering than
 most of us, could you look at this bogus website and see if there is
 anything odd about it (a virus maybe?).  Could somebody have hijacked the
 BSS site?  Who holds the domain name registration? 


   
ENOM holds the website registration.  I tried to contact them by their 
online support form several times this evening without success, so I 
guess it will have to be a 'phone call tomorrow.

-- 
Richard Mallett
Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
Wolfgang R. Dick wrote:
 I have seen this type of advertisement already several times when a web site
 is no longer active. It changes from page to page, e.g., when going to
 http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/Dial_Makers.htm ,
 the ads are different (but somehow related to the original content).

 When searching with Google for
 site:www.sundialsoc.org.uk contacts
 and clicking on Cached, one may extract the former contact addresses page
 from Google's cache. Perhaps someone may contact one of the officers, e.g.:

 Webmaster

 Mr R C Mallett
 21 Cantilupe Close
 Eaton Bray
 DUNSTABLE Beds.   LU6 2EA
 Tel: 01525 15
 Email: 100114@compuserve.com

 General Secretary

 Mr G Aldred
 4 Sheardhall Avenue
 Disley, STOCKPORT
 Cheshire  SK12 2DE
 Tel: 01663 762415
 Email: gra...@sheardhall.co.uk

 Kind regards,
 Wolfgang Dick

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John Davis has contacted me to say that the registrar ENOM have 
terminated our registration without warning, so I hope it will be sorted 
out tomorrow.

-- 
Richard Mallett
Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
Richard B. Langley wrote:
 And, there is the Way-back Internet archive machine, but the BSS pages 
 haven't been
 updated for two years there:
 http://web.archive.org/web/20071019031557/http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/
 -- Richard Langley
   
I don't know what one has to do (if anything) to get archived there.

-- 
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Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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Re: BSS web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
Fabio Savian wrote:
 There are info about the owner of a site in

 http://whois.domaintools.com

 and the answer for www.sundialssoc.org.uk are not good.

 it seems to be expired yesterday (24/11) and renewed today, the first 
 registration is 10 years old, the registrant is The British Sundial Society 
 but something is changed in the site profile.

 Fabio

 Fabio Savian
 fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
 Paderno Dugnano, Milan, Italy
 45° 34' 10'' N   9° 10' 9'' E
 GMT +1 (DST +2)

   
It says 'last updated Nov. 25th.' but it also says 'Renewal required' so 
I hope that it can be sorted out tomorrow.

-- 
Richard Mallett
Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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Re: bss web site

2009-11-25 Thread Richard Mallett
Alex Botkin wrote:
 No skullduggery.  They apparently forgot to renew the web site 
 registration.

 The contact is b...@exford.co.uk if you want to chastise them.

 It was apparently renewed  only today, 11/25/2009

 Alex
Peter Scott of Exford Systems was the BSS webmaster in 2002.  We have 
had a few since then :-)

-- 
Richard Mallett
Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK

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RE: bss web site

2009-11-25 Thread Alex Botkin

Well as we say in Pittsburgh Yinz better redd up  That information came from 
the official registration.  Which explains why no one renewed the 
registration...the renewal notices were going to the wrong person.

 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:56:46 +
 From: 100114@compuserve.com
 To: alexbot...@businesscalendar.org
 CC: sundial@uni-koeln.de
 Subject: Re: bss web site
 
 Alex Botkin wrote:
  No skullduggery.  They apparently forgot to renew the web site 
  registration.
 
  The contact is b...@exford.co.uk if you want to chastise them.
 
  It was apparently renewed  only today, 11/25/2009
 
  Alex
 Peter Scott of Exford Systems was the BSS webmaster in 2002.  We have 
 had a few since then :-)
 
 -- 
 Richard Mallett
 Eaton Bray, Dunstable
 South Beds. UK
 
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RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-10 Thread Richard Hollands


OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm guessing it's
trying to access the hardware directly.

Last comment in this thread!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



John,

Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists
Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC
then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS.
(DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE)

My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what
unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so
talk to you later :-)

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




John,

The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says,
isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE.

However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can
get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run
on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very
good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it
first anyway.

What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ...

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


Hello Richard:

It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun
program with a palm-held devise.  There is hope!

I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types
hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number?

Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion
also.

John

- Original Message -
From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



 I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm
 devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing
 your
 co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter.
 You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work.

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
 Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
 To: anselmo
 Cc: Sundial List
 Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


 On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able
 to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website
 that
 Anselmo mentioned.

 Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held
 computer?

 How about Dialist Companion?

 thanks,
 John

 - Original Message -
 From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
 Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


 On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote
 Hi All,
 I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web
 site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses
 Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your
 computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if
 you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but
 please let me know if you have problems.

 Dear all,

 Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother
 in

 http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

 It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.

 I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any
 interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

 Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion
 soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

 Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from
 it for future versions of UbiSol! :-

 Anselmo
 -



 -

 -



-

-

-

-


RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-10 Thread Robert Terwilliger

Richard Hollands wrote:

 Last comment in this thread!

I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update
the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to
install and use DC.

PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right -
the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find
it. 

Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about
specific handhelds can be sent directly to me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM
 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
 Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
 OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm 
 guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly.
 
 Last comment in this thread!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands
 Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46
 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
 Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
 
 John,
 
 Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and 
 the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have 
 to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The 
 install program won't run under PocketDOS.
 (DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE)
 
 My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but 
 that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the 
 Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-)
 
 Richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands
 Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18
 To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
 Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
 
 
 John,
 
 The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the 
 website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE.
 
 However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your 
 palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which 
 is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've 
 used the earlier version and it really is a very good 
 emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can 
 trial it first anyway.
 
 What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ...
 
 Richard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
 Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06
 To: Sundial List
 Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
 Hello Richard:
 
 It's good to know that at least one of you has had success 
 using a sun program with a palm-held devise.  There is hope!
 
 I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all 
 types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a 
 brand and model number?
 
 Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist 
 Companion also.
 
 John
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM
 Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
 
  I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. 
  Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for 
  changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form 
  fields and hit Enter.
  You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work.
 
  Richard
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
  Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
  To: anselmo
  Cc: Sundial List
  Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
  On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, 
 I was not 
  able to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish 
 Ubisol 
  website that Anselmo mentioned.
 
  Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held 
  computer?
 
  How about Dialist Companion?
 
  thanks,
  John
 
  - Original Message -
  From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
  Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site
 
 
  On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote
  Hi All,
  I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web 
  site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses 
  Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your 
  computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if 
  you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but 
  please let me know if you have problems.
 
  Dear all,
 
  Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in
 
  http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html
 
  It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.
 
  I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily 
 hacked by any

Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-10 Thread Thierry van Steenberghe




Amazingly, nobody seems to have mentionned the excellent (shareware)
program 'Planetarium' for Palm computers, by A. Hofer...
It is a complete Planetarium, as the name implies, and gives Rise 
Set + Transit times, twilight times, and the position of the Sun and
planets, even a detailed celestial map. It calculates solstices and
many other things.
See http://www.aho.ch/pilotplanets
Fantastic!

A simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise,
Set, Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length.
It can be found, as well as othe nice programs, on the author's David
W. Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/
Highly recommended!
There is also info for the development of Palm programs: maybe the
source of DC can be used to compile a Palm version?

Yet another program is Sol! (shareware)

Palm PDAs have the advantage that they use a very stable OS, very
compact programs, and a lot of freeware and shareware is available.
Look for example at http://www.palmgear.com or www.palmsource.com among
many other download sites (Tucows, etc.)

Cheers,

Thierry
50.5 N 4.3 E




Robert Terwilliger wrote:

  Richard Hollands wrote:

  
  
Last comment in this thread!

  
  
I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update
the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to
install and use DC.

PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right -
the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find
it. 

Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about
specific handhelds can be sent directly to me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Bob

  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm 
guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly.

Last comment in this thread!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



John,

Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and 
the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have 
to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The 
install program won't run under PocketDOS.
(DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE)

My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but 
that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the 
Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-)

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




John,

The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the 
website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE.

However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your 
palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which 
is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've 
used the earlier version and it really is a very good 
emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can 
trial it first anyway.

What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ...

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


Hello Richard:

It's good to know that at least one of you has had success 
using a sun program with a palm-held devise.  There is hope!

I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all 
types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a 
brand and model number?

Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist 
Companion also.

John

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Hollands" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Sundial List" sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




  I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. 
Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for 
changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form 
fields and hit Enter.
You do need to have _javascript_ enabled for it to work.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
To: anselmo
Cc: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, 
  

I was not 


  able to use either the BSS "Where's the sun" or the Sp

Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-10 Thread tony moss

Thierry van Steenberghe contributed:

A simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise, Set, 
Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length.
It can be found, as well as othe nice programs, on the author's David W. 
Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/
Highly recommended!

I had this downloaded and installed on my Palm Tungsten T3 within minutes.
It's always nice to have backup/confirmation of calculations and RiseSet 
does just that with minimum fuss.

Magic!  Pure magic! Easy to use and freeware too!  There are some very 
kind people in this world.

Tony Moss.
-


RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-10 Thread Richard Hollands



So you 
wanna fight, huh? :-) If we're talking about astronomy that provides info useful 
to dialists:-

For 
Pocket PC:

An 
Ephemeris program from Jonathan Sachs. Has a nice compass feature: point the PC 
at the Sun (or Moon as appropriate) and it indicates True North. Produces a 
table of the Sun's position throughout the day. Freeware.
Link: 
http://home.comcast.net/~jonsachs/ 
You might like his Scientific Calculator too.

Nomad 
Electronics' "Pocket Stars": http://www.nomadelectronics.com/a 
planetarium program. Rise, Set, Altitude and Azimuth (in real time). $19.99 but 
incorporates NASA's ephemeris for Sun, Moon and planets for dates in this 
century. (Back to 1700 if you have 60 Meg spare)

If 
you're real DOS fan you might try looking for Steven Moshier's AA, an ephemeris 
program for DOS. Another program that uses routines to get NASA-standard 
accuracy - just what the average dial constructor needs, 
right?

Cheers,

Richard

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Thierry van SteenbergheSent: 10 May 2005 
  16:15To: Robert TerwilligerCc: 'Richard Hollands'; 'John 
  Carmichael'; 'Sundial List'Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; 
  BSS Web siteAmazingly, nobody seems to have mentionned 
  the excellent (shareware) program 'Planetarium' for Palm computers, by A. 
  Hofer...It is a complete Planetarium, as the name implies, and gives Rise 
   Set + Transit times, twilight times, and the position of the Sun and 
  planets, even a detailed celestial map. It calculates solstices and many other 
  things.See http://www.aho.ch/pilotplanetsFantastic!A 
  simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise, Set, 
  Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length.It can be found, as well as othe 
  nice programs, on the author's David W. Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/Highly 
  recommended!There is also info for the development of Palm programs: maybe 
  the source of DC can be used to compile a Palm version?Yet another 
  program is Sol! (shareware)Palm PDAs have the advantage that they use 
  a very stable OS, very compact programs, and a lot of freeware and shareware 
  is available.Look for example at http://www.palmgear.com or www.palmsource.com among many other 
  download sites (Tucows, etc.)Cheers,Thierry50.5 N 4.3 
  ERobert Terwilliger wrote:
  Richard Hollands wrote:

  
Last comment in this thread!

I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update
the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to
install and use DC.

PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right -
the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find
it. 

Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about
specific handhelds can be sent directly to me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Bob

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm 
guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly.

Last comment in this thread!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



John,

Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and 
the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have 
to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The 
install program won't run under PocketDOS.
(DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE)

My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but 
that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the 
Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-)

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




John,

The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the 
website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE.

However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your 
palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which 
is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've 
used the earlier version and it really is a very good 
emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can 
trial it first anyway.

What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ...

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


Hello Richard:

It's good to know that at least one of y

RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-09 Thread Richard Hollands


I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm
devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing your
co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter.
You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
To: anselmo
Cc: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able
to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that
Anselmo mentioned.

Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer?

How about Dialist Companion?

thanks,
John

- Original Message -
From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


 On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote
 Hi All,
 I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web
 site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses
 Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your
 computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if
 you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but
 please let me know if you have problems.

 Dear all,

 Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother
 in

 http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

 It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.

 I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any
 interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

 Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion
 soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

 Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from
 it for future versions of UbiSol! :-

 Anselmo
 -



-

-


Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-09 Thread John Carmichael



It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun 
program with a palm-held devise.  There is hope!


I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types 
hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number?


Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion 
also.


John

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm
devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing 
your

co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter.
You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
To: anselmo
Cc: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able
to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website 
that

Anselmo mentioned.

Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held 
computer?


How about Dialist Companion?

thanks,
John

- Original Message -
From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote

Hi All,
I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web
site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses
Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your
computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if
you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but
please let me know if you have problems.


Dear all,

Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother
in

http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.

I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any
interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion
soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from
it for future versions of UbiSol! :-

Anselmo
-




-

-




-


RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-09 Thread Richard Hollands


John,

Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and the Dialists
Companion and they both run perfectly. You have to install DC on your PC
then copy the files across. The install program won't run under PocketDOS.
(DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE)

My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but that's what
unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the Dialists Companion now so
talk to you later :-)

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Hollands
Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




John,

The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the website says,
isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE.

However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your palm-top you can
get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which is a PC emulator which will run
on most palm-top PCs. I've used the earlier version and it really is a very
good emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can trial it
first anyway.

What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ...

Richard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


Hello Richard:

It's good to know that at least one of you has had success using a sun
program with a palm-held devise.  There is hope!

I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all types
hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a brand and model number?

Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist Companion
also.

John

- Original Message -
From: Richard Hollands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



 I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. Palm
 devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for changing
 your
 co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form fields and hit Enter.
 You do need to have Javascript enabled for it to work.

 Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carmichael
 Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
 To: anselmo
 Cc: Sundial List
 Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


 On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, I was not able
 to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website
 that
 Anselmo mentioned.

 Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held
 computer?

 How about Dialist Companion?

 thanks,
 John

 - Original Message -
 From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
 Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


 On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote
 Hi All,
 I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web
 site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses
 Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your
 computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if
 you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but
 please let me know if you have problems.

 Dear all,

 Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother
 in

 http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

 It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.

 I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any
 interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

 Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion
 soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

 Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from
 it for future versions of UbiSol! :-

 Anselmo
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Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-08 Thread John Carmichael


to use either the BSS Where's the sun or the Spanish Ubisol website that 
Anselmo mentioned.


Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held computer?

How about Dialist Companion?

thanks,
John

- Original Message - 
From: anselmo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Chris Lusby Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote

Hi All,
I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web
site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses
Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your
computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if
you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but
please let me know if you have problems.


Dear all,

Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother
in

http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.

I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any
interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion
soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from
it for future versions of UbiSol! :-

Anselmo
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Re: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-07 Thread david . pawley

ie, zero is north, east is 90 degrees, south is 180 degrees and west is 270 degrees
Regards, best wishes and many grateful thanks for adding this additional azimuth box to your excellant programs.
David.
 Message date : May 06 2005, 08:34 AM From : "anselmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To : "Chris Lusby Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Copy to : sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject : Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote  Hi All,  I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web   site. From the home page, click on "Where is the sun?". It uses   _javascript_ embedded in the page, and takes the time from your   computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if   you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but   please let me know if you have problems.  Dear all,  "Where is the sun?" has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in   http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html  It works also as an embedded _javascript_ and updates automatically.  I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any  interested user (see file UbiSol.js).  Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, "Dialist Companion" soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.  Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from  it for future versions of UbiSol! :-  Anselmo -  Whatever you WanadooThis email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here


Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-06 Thread anselmo

On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote
 Hi All,
 I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web 
 site. From the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses 
 Javascript embedded in the page, and takes the time from your 
 computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if 
 you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but 
 please let me know if you have problems.

Dear all,

Where is the sun? has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother
in 

http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

It works also as an embedded JavaScript and updates automatically.

I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily hacked by any 
interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, Dialist Companion
soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas from 
it for future versions of UbiSol! :-

Anselmo
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Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

2005-05-05 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor

Hi All,
I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web site. From
the home page, click on Where is the sun?. It uses Javascript embedded in
the page, and takes the time from your computer's clock, so you could make
the page available offline if you wished. It should run in any current
browser, I trust, but please let me know if you have problems.

Note that the accuracy of the instantaneous EoT and declination should be
good to the nearest second, but I don't recalculate them at dawn, noon and
dusk, so the quoted times for those may be a few seconds out.

As it uses your computer's clock, you can change the time or date, then
refresh the page to get the EoT etc at any other time or date.

Once you've told it your Lat and Long, it stores them in a cookie, so you
only have to do it once (unless you've disabled persistent cookies).

Best wishes to you all
Chris Lusby Taylor
51.4N 1.3W

- Original Message - 
From: John Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: J. Tallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software


 Hi Jim:

 Your question is a good one. I don't have a handheld computer but maybe
this
 will help.

 Alain Ferreira yesterday told me that there is a new link on the BSS
website
 that gives almost all essential dialing data for a particular place.  All
 you have to do is enter your coordinates.  It's sort of like the Dialist
 Companion, but a little quicker and easier to use, although it doesn't do
 quite as much as DC.  Go to The Home Page at
http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/
 and click NEW on the left side.

 Would Dialist Companion work on a Palm-held devise I wonder?

 Let us know if you are successful in finding software that works.  I'm
tired
 of borrowing my friend's laptop when I go out in the field!

 John


 - Original Message - 
 From: J. Tallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Sundial List sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:20 AM
 Subject: Handheld dialing software


  Hello all,
 
  Does anyone know if any useful dialing software (for field measurements,
  altitude/azimuth etc) exists for use on a Palm handheld device?
 
 
  Best,
 
  Jim Tallman
  www.artisanindustrials.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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