[freenet-support] Stable build 5060 - more routing improvements

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
Freenet stable build 5060 is now available. The snapshots have been
updated. Get it via the update.sh script on Linux, BSD, or OS/X, or use
the freenet-webinstall.exe utility to update on Windows, or get the jar
from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar . All stable
branch users should upgrade.

Changelog:
* Make the routing algorithm treat local and non-local requests exactly
  the same. We were treating local requests differently in that we would
  route to nodes that were backed off for a local request, but not for a
  request we were serving for another node. This was perhaps exploitable
  probabilistically to identify groups of local requests, and was also
  probably causing a distortion in routing...
* Increase the routing table size to 100. Because of the above and
  because of the fact that the overwhelming majority of queries are
  rejected or time out, a larger routing table may be helpful.
* Added new stats localRequestSuccessRatio and localRoutingSuccessRatio,
  these may be of interest, but should probably be made optional...
* Removed the non-working links on the routing table summary page.
* Prevented a NullPointerException in MuxConnectionHandler, although the
  underlying bug remains, it is slightly less severe...
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[freenet-support] Bug report

2004-01-14 Thread Victor Hammersley
Hi:

Using build 6440, just downloaded n' fred said:

Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 6 in queue, 4401 millis since enqueued last 
item, 2057 maximum waits so far - could indicate serious JVM bug. Please 
report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] along with JVM and OS/kernel.

java version "1.4.2"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2-b28)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-b28, mixed mode)

Linux 2.6.0-0.test5.1mdk #1 Fri Sep 12 05:22:50 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown 
GNU/Linux

hope this helps
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[freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread Someone
Someone schrieb:

Oh well switching log level from error to normal floods the log with:

(freenet.MuxTrailerReadManager,  read interface thread, NORMAL): Unrecognized 
trailer ID: 14000 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DSA(*removed*),tcp/*removed*, 
sessions=1, presentations=3,1, ID=DSA(*removed*)): outbound attempts=0:0/0 for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: read: 0, init read: 45280, authorized: 0, 
waiting: 0, max buffered: 65535, readers: 0, chunks waiting: 0 on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DSA(*removed*),tcp/*removed*, sessions=1, 
presentations=3,1, ID=DSA(*removed*)): outbound attempts=0:0/0 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]: id=14000, keyOffset=16384, 
length=21, cb=null)

Failed to send (2) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: id=60155, 
keyOffset=136007, length=491, 
cb=freenet.node.states.data.TrailerWriteCallbackMessage:false:false: 
freenet.SendFailedException: Against peer DSA(*removed*) @ null - Removing from 
OCM (terminal)

I also get:

(freenet.node.Node, YThread-1, ERROR): Error while receiving message 
freenet.node.states.request.RequestInitiator@ 1074134737797 in state 
freenet.node.states.request.DataPending: key=*removed*, hopsToLive=20, 
id=b2f715d1d0c0700b, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ 
*removed* (1/3)], last=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)], 
routedTime=1074134737815, replyTime=-1, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@b2f715d1d0c0700b,true@ 
1074134737906:1074134737815:false:freenet.SendFailedException: Against peer 
DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* - Sent 0 bytes (124 of packet in notifyDone 
(nonterminal):freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ b2f715d1d0c0700b: 
java.lang.NullPointerException
java.lang.NullPointerException
	at freenet.MuxConnectionHandler.sendPacket(MuxConnectionHandler.java:212)
	at freenet.MuxConnectionHandler.forceSendPacket(MuxConnectionHandler.java:185)
	at freenet.PeerHandler.sendSinglePacket(PeerHandler.java:1188)
	at freenet.PeerHandler.innerSendMessageAsync(PeerHandler.java:1063)
	at freenet.PeerHandler.sendMessageAsync(PeerHandler.java:958)
	at freenet.OpenConnectionManager.sendMessageAsync(OpenConnectionManager.java:639)
	at freenet.node.Node.sendMessageAsync(Node.java:4510)
	at freenet.node.states.request.Pending.sendOn(Pending.java:850)
	at freenet.node.states.request.Pending.receivedRequestInitiator(Pending.java:471)
	at freenet.node.states.request.DataPending.receivedMessage(DataPending.java:97)
	at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor2.invoke(Unknown Source)
	at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
	at freenet.node.State.received(State.java:128)
	at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:183)
	at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:67)
	at freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:235)
	at 
freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:173)
	at 
freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$100(StandardMessageHandler.java:125)
	at freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:73)
	at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:393)
	at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:247)

(freenet.node.rt.TreeRouting, Finalizer, NORMAL): Did not terminate 
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[freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread Someone
Toad schrieb:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:04:34AM +0100, Someone wrote:
How to get one on Win2k? Would it help if I send you the log file?


Definitely.
Ok, the log is on it's way via private eMail. I also found some of them:

(freenet.support.FileBucket, Finalizer, ERROR): Delete failed on bucket tcfcdc80

But not in the last hours.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:04:34AM +0100, Someone wrote:
> Toad schrieb:
> 
> >On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:53:31AM +0100, Someone wrote:
> >
> >>I am getting some of these:
> >>
> >>Unhandled exception java.lang.NullPointerException in job 
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >Does it provide a stack trace?
> 
> How to get one on Win2k? Would it help if I send you the log file?

Definitely.
> 
> >>Handling 
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@74ec80fb05ceb2cd,true@ 
> >>1074130489411:1074130487208:true:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null 
> >>@ 74ec80fb05ceb2cd took more than 3000ms: 22365 at 1074130512628!
> >
> >
> >Overloaded node.
> 
> Well yes, my node is within the seednodes.ref and along with most of the 
> others
> it gets totally overrun. Over 25000 queries per hour while it can do 
> something
> near 6000 to 8000 queries.
> 
> >>
> >>and many (about 1 every 2 minutes) of these:
> >>
> >>jobPartDone(116) on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
> >>CLOSED,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
> >>sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
> >>chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected 
> >>local=/192.168.0.3:*removed* remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer 
> >>[DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], outbound=[false]] but sendingPacket 
> >>== null!
> >
> >
> >Eek. What build are you running?
> 
> 5059 running for 2.5 hours now.
> 
> >>Got a really late DataReply. We really ought to cache it, on 
> >>freenet.node.states.request.DataPending: key=*removed*, hopsToLive=11, 
> >>id=e7420a33ba4e5243, routes@ s?W??[z?!St?Py, 
> >>ft@ s?W?[EMAIL PROTECTED]"??
> ? ?b?]?, orig=Peer 
> >>[DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)], last=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* 
> >>(1/3)], routedTime=1074130107044, replyTime=-1, 
> >>outwardSender@ s?W0??3H>[EMAIL PROTECTED],true@ 
> >>-1:1074130107044:false:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ 
> >>e7420a33ba4e5243
> >
> >
> >That means your node is slow, or their node is slow, or something...
> 
> Most likely my node, the poor 300Mhz K6-2 isn't really a fast machine.
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[freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread Someone
Toad schrieb:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:53:31AM +0100, Someone wrote:

I am getting some of these:

Unhandled exception java.lang.NullPointerException in job 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Does it provide a stack trace?
How to get one on Win2k? Would it help if I send you the log file?

Handling 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@74ec80fb05ceb2cd,true@ 
1074130489411:1074130487208:true:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ 
74ec80fb05ceb2cd took more than 3000ms: 22365 at 1074130512628!


Overloaded node.
Well yes, my node is within the seednodes.ref and along with most of the others
it gets totally overrun. Over 25000 queries per hour while it can do something
near 6000 to 8000 queries.
and many (about 1 every 2 minutes) of these:

jobPartDone(116) on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
CLOSED,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected 
local=/192.168.0.3:*removed* remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer 
[DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], outbound=[false]] but sendingPacket == 
null!


Eek. What build are you running?
5059 running for 2.5 hours now.

Got a really late DataReply. We really ought to cache it, on 
freenet.node.states.request.DataPending: key=*removed*, hopsToLive=11, 
id=e7420a33ba4e5243, routes@ s¥W¯à¹¥ÍÖ[z­!SÚ¦®¯t¯Py, 
ft@ s¥W¯à¹Ú°[EMAIL PROTECTED]"’¨
ª	Íbœ]Å, orig=Peer 
[DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)], last=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* 
(1/3)], routedTime=1074130107044, replyTime=-1, 
outwardSender@ s¥W¯à¹ƒ0ߐ3H>[EMAIL PROTECTED],true@ 
-1:1074130107044:false:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ 
e7420a33ba4e5243


That means your node is slow, or their node is slow, or something...
Most likely my node, the poor 300Mhz K6-2 isn't really a fast machine.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:53:31AM +0100, Someone wrote:
> I am getting some of these:
> 
> Unhandled exception java.lang.NullPointerException in job 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does it provide a stack trace?
> 
> Got a trailer chunk ahead of our time!: message starts 6880, stream 
> currently at 0 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: id=37068, 
> keyOffset=6880, length=860, cb=null on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
> curPos=0, 0 chunks pending, wantChunk=true

:( - some messages got lost, or a multiplexing bug...
> 
> Please close() me manually in finalizer: Key: 
> fd0d471aecb9d995062404af1066e67f430dfcc4120302 Buffer: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0x1 : 
> fd0d471aecb9d995062404af1066e67f430dfcc4120302:temp:262641:59076761d4d1ede2 
> New: true ( 0 of 262460 read)

Bug.
> 
> Handling 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@74ec80fb05ceb2cd,true@ 
> 1074130489411:1074130487208:true:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ 
> 74ec80fb05ceb2cd took more than 3000ms: 22365 at 1074130512628!

Overloaded node.
> 
> Unhandled throwable while handling connection
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection:
> CLOSED,[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)],
> sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]],
> chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/*removed*
> remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]],
> outbound=[true]])

Did it provide a stack trace?
> 
> unhandled throwable in Checkpoint: Connection opener @ DSA(*removed*)

Ditto.
> 
> 
> 
> and many (about 1 every 2 minutes) of these:
> 
> jobPartDone(116) on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
> CLOSED,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
> sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
> chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected 
> local=/192.168.0.3:*removed* remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer 
> [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], outbound=[false]] but sendingPacket == 
> null!

Eek. What build are you running?
> 
> Got a really late DataReply. We really ought to cache it, on 
> freenet.node.states.request.DataPending: key=*removed*, hopsToLive=11, 
> id=e7420a33ba4e5243, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], orig=Peer 
> [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)], last=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* 
> (1/3)], routedTime=1074130107044, replyTime=-1, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e7420a33ba4e5243,true@ 
> -1:1074130107044:false:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ 
> e7420a33ba4e5243

That means your node is slow, or their node is slow, or something...
> 
> Caught freenet.InvalidMessageException: Can't find Source field on 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
> *removed*>local,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
> sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
> chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/*removed* 
> remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], 
> outbound=[false]] trying to parse FNP message:
>  DataRequest
> HopsToLive=19
> UniqueID=*removed*
> SearchKey=*removed*
> EndMessage

I'm sure I fixed that. What build are you using?
> 
> freenet.InvalidMessageException: Can't find Source field on 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
> *removed*>local,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
> sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
> chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/*removed* 
> remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], 
> outbound=[false]]
> 
> 
> Also the CPU usage seemed to be much higher than with 5058. Some of the log
> messages may be due me running the node on a slow 300Mhz machine with 256 MB
> of ram.

Hmmm.
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[freenet-support] Re: Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread Someone
I am getting some of these:

Unhandled exception java.lang.NullPointerException in job 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Got a trailer chunk ahead of our time!: message starts 6880, stream currently at 
0 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: id=37068, keyOffset=6880, 
length=860, cb=null on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: curPos=0, 0 chunks 
pending, wantChunk=true

Please close() me manually in finalizer: Key: 
fd0d471aecb9d995062404af1066e67f430dfcc4120302 Buffer: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0x1 : 
fd0d471aecb9d995062404af1066e67f430dfcc4120302:temp:262641:59076761d4d1ede2 New: 
true ( 0 of 262460 read)

Handling [EMAIL PROTECTED]@74ec80fb05ceb2cd,true@ 
1074130489411:1074130487208:true:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ 
74ec80fb05ceb2cd took more than 3000ms: 22365 at 1074130512628!

Unhandled throwable while handling connection
([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection:
CLOSED,[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)],
sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]],
chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/*removed*
remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]],
outbound=[true]])
unhandled throwable in Checkpoint: Connection opener @ DSA(*removed*)



and many (about 1 every 2 minutes) of these:

jobPartDone(116) on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
CLOSED,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/192.168.0.3:*removed* 
remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], 
outbound=[false]] but sendingPacket == null!

Got a really late DataReply. We really ought to cache it, on 
freenet.node.states.request.DataPending: key=*removed*, hopsToLive=11, 
id=e7420a33ba4e5243, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ 
*removed* (1/3)], last=Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)], 
routedTime=1074130107044, replyTime=-1, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@e7420a33ba4e5243,true@ 
-1:1074130107044:false:null:freenet.Message: DataRequest @null @ e7420a33ba4e5243

Caught freenet.InvalidMessageException: Can't find Source field on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
*removed*>local,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/*removed* 
remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], 
outbound=[false]] trying to parse FNP message:
 DataRequest
HopsToLive=19
UniqueID=*removed*
SearchKey=*removed*
EndMessage

freenet.InvalidMessageException: Can't find Source field on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: 
*removed*>local,[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(*removed*)], 
sock=[Socket[addr=/*removed*,port=*removed*,localport=*removed*]], 
chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/*removed* 
remote=/*removed*]], peer=[Peer [DSA(*removed*) @ *removed* (1/3)]], 
outbound=[false]]

Also the CPU usage seemed to be much higher than with 5058. Some of the log
messages may be due me running the node on a slow 300Mhz machine with 256 MB
of ram.
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[freenet-support] Stable build 5059

2004-01-14 Thread support
Freenet stable build 5058 is now available. The snapshots have been
updated. Get it via the update.sh script on Linux, BSD, or OS/X, or use
the freenet-webinstall.exe utility to update on Windows, or get the jar
from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar . All stable
branch users should upgrade.

Changelog:
* Force all stable branch nodes to use the classic routing
  implementation. This may have been set wrong because a node switched
  networks, etc. If a user really wants to run ngr on the stable network
  he can edit the code and compile it him-/her-self.
* Remove the NewNodeContactor, a hack used to ensure that new nodes in
  the routing table are contacted regularly, which was only enabled if
  NGRouting was active. This has been causing a massive amount of
  traffic on the unstable branch and depending on how many nodes were
  actually running NGR on stable may have caused a lot of traffic there
  too. The replacement is code to route every 100th incoming FNP request,
  on average, using the least-experienced-first routing algorithm, if we
  are using NGR. All these changes will also be committed to unstable
  where they may make more difference.
* Minor cosmetic improvement to the routing table status page (nodes
  only show in red if they have no connections and connections are
  failing).
* The routing table size to max connections ratio has been reduced from
  a minimum of 4 to a minimum of 2. This means nodes on win9x can have a
  30 node routing table and nodes on OS/X can have a 50 node routing
  table.
* Locking fix in the classic routing table. This could have caused
  various problems...
* Up the lastGoodBuild to 5053 to remove ambiguity; probably no
  practical impact.
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RE: [freenet-support] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Nicholas Sturm
This looks like one that belong nowhere.
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> when the node starts up, the rt gets cleaned, so no bad refs are left.
>> then, while the node is running only good refs are added to the rt.
>>=20
>> then why are connections from incompatible (e.g. stable/unstable) nodes i=
>n the OCM?
>> because they contacted us?
>> then why aren't they rejected for using an incompatible protocol?
>
>Their queries are rejected. Their connections are not rejected because
>we don't exchange that info at connection time. We don't close the
>connections because they'd only retry.

that makes some sense at the expense of (since muxing not so) valuable connection 
slots, system resources, etc...
the connection backoff from Trevor Smith might be useful for this kind of stuff
also, maybe a additional fnp answer at connection time could be designed: "never 
contact me again" which will make out node remove the node which answers us this from 
the rt, so we won't retry the node as it's 
permanently unusable





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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:43:29PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> then wrong noderefs can only slip into the rt when the local rt already h=
> >as these bad references (e.g. when switching von unstable->stable or the ot=
> >her way around without purging the rt) or when importing new=20
> >> seednodes which contain these bad refs.
> >>=20
> >> would it be useful if the local routing table would be checked on node st=
> >artup if every ref is suited for the build? if there is such a check when a=
> >dding refs while the node is running, then this check logic would be=20
> >> reusable at startup time, wouldn't it?
> >
> >It is.
> 
> errr.. then i just don't get it
> 
> when the node starts up, the rt gets cleaned, so no bad refs are left.
> then, while the node is running only good refs are added to the rt.
> 
> then why are connections from incompatible (e.g. stable/unstable) nodes in the OCM?
> because they contacted us?
> then why aren't they rejected for using an incompatible protocol?

Their queries are rejected. Their connections are not rejected because
we don't exchange that info at connection time. We don't close the
connections because they'd only retry.
> 
> sorry for bothering you and flooding the list, but i imagine i've seen some 
> confusion on the list too. well.. dev that is
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> then wrong noderefs can only slip into the rt when the local rt already h=
>as these bad references (e.g. when switching von unstable->stable or the ot=
>her way around without purging the rt) or when importing new=20
>> seednodes which contain these bad refs.
>>=20
>> would it be useful if the local routing table would be checked on node st=
>artup if every ref is suited for the build? if there is such a check when a=
>dding refs while the node is running, then this check logic would be=20
>> reusable at startup time, wouldn't it?
>
>It is.

errr.. then i just don't get it

when the node starts up, the rt gets cleaned, so no bad refs are left.
then, while the node is running only good refs are added to the rt.

then why are connections from incompatible (e.g. stable/unstable) nodes in the OCM?
because they contacted us?
then why aren't they rejected for using an incompatible protocol?

sorry for bothering you and flooding the list, but i imagine i've seen some confusion 
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:31:23PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node =
> >refs to the routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long r=
> >un the generated seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't=20
> >
> >We do.
> 
> oh, good :)
> 
> then wrong noderefs can only slip into the rt when the local rt already has these 
> bad references (e.g. when switching von unstable->stable or the other way around 
> without purging the rt) or when importing new 
> seednodes which contain these bad refs.
> 
> would it be useful if the local routing table would be checked on node startup if 
> every ref is suited for the build? if there is such a check when adding refs while 
> the node is running, then this check logic would be 
> reusable at startup time, wouldn't it?

It is.
> 
> >> they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?=
> >!?)
> >
> >Because I didn't get around to it...
> 
> i just remembered you asking Conrad Sabatier if he or someone else could write such 
> a 'cleanup' script which removes lines from a seednode file not matching a regexp. i 
> think thats a nice idea and would provide 
> reliable seednodes... someone came around with this?
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2004-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node =
>refs to the routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long r=
>un the generated seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't=20
>
>We do.

oh, good :)

then wrong noderefs can only slip into the rt when the local rt already has these bad 
references (e.g. when switching von unstable->stable or the other way around without 
purging the rt) or when importing new 
seednodes which contain these bad refs.

would it be useful if the local routing table would be checked on node startup if 
every ref is suited for the build? if there is such a check when adding refs while the 
node is running, then this check logic would be 
reusable at startup time, wouldn't it?

>> they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?=
>!?)
>
>Because I didn't get around to it...

i just remembered you asking Conrad Sabatier if he or someone else could write such a 
'cleanup' script which removes lines from a seednode file not matching a regexp. i 
think thats a nice idea and would provide 
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[freenet-support] Unusual error report

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Bennett
FYI, just in case it's important.

Saw this in my log just now:

14-Jan-2004 22:14:11 (freenet.HighLevelMessageFactory,  read interface
thread, NORMAL): Could not parse high level message (132 bytes):
QueryRejected
Attenuation=1
RequestInterval=2.147483647E9
Hops?bˆveê•8«—ïd}S’Ü›å/Doverloaded
UniqueID=8e45ff9197b5169e
EndMessage

14-Jan-2004 22:14:11 (freenet.PeerPacketMessageParser,  read interface
thread, NORMAL): Recognized type 1 but parse returned null for message from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MuxConnectionHandler[conn=[tcp/connection: [blanked
out]>local,[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], identity=[DSA(7142 1fdd 76bb
d543 2e8d  c7f4 62ed 2952 8f6c 87f7)], sock=[Socket[addr=/[blanked
out],port=[blanked out],localport=[blanked out]]],
chan=[java.nio.channels.SocketChannel[connected local=/[blanked out]
remote=/[blanked out]]], peer=[Peer [DSA(7142 1fdd 76bb d543 2e8d  c7f4 62ed
2952 8f6c 87f7) @ [blanked out] (1/3)]], outbound=[false]] of length 132

The weird characters are what appeared in the log, not an artefact of
cutting and pasting the message from the log window into a plaintext email,
and I've blanked out the IP addresses in case the other node's owner doesn't
want them known.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:06:48PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i have seen some stable nodes with connections to unstable nodes, unstable nodes 
> with connections to stable nodes, seednodes for stable nodes with unstable 
> references, seednodes for unstable nodes with 
> stable references, you get the idea. why are stable nodes connecting AT ALL to 
> unstable nodes and vice versa? they use incompatible protocols IIRC, so why should 
> they even *try* to connect to incompatible 
> nodes?!?
> 
> why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node refs to the 
> routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long run the generated 
> seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't 

We do.

> they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?!?)

Because I didn't get around to it...
> 
> *scratches head* i see no sense in the current noderef politics.
> 
> >I am running stable with 5058.  I got the new node set at 5054, but I'm not
> >at all sure those node are all stable (have my doubts).
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 1/14/2004 3:16:32 PM
> >> Subject: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources
> >>
> >> It appears several nodes in the unstable list are running stable, and
> >> several nodes in the stable list are running unstable. Would ALL persons
> >> whose nodes are currently used as seednode sources please contact me and
> >> tell me the URL and which branch it is currently running please.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:08:07PM +, Toad wrote:
> >> > We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail
> >> > me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from
> >> > dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest
> >> > of the internet. You can do this by setting:
> >> > mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248
> >> > in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can
> >> > browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to
> >> > do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :)
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:06:48PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i have seen some stable nodes with connections to unstable nodes, unstable nodes 
> with connections to stable nodes, seednodes for stable nodes with unstable 
> references, seednodes for unstable nodes with 
> stable references, you get the idea. why are stable nodes connecting AT ALL to 
> unstable nodes and vice versa? they use incompatible protocols IIRC, so why should 
> they even *try* to connect to incompatible 
> nodes?!?

Because they have an old ref. We don't terminate the connection immediately
because they'd only retry.
> 
> why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node refs to the 
> routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long run the generated 
> seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't 
> they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?!?)
> 
> *scratches head* i see no sense in the current noderef politics.
> 
> >I am running stable with 5058.  I got the new node set at 5054, but I'm not
> >at all sure those node are all stable (have my doubts).
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 1/14/2004 3:16:32 PM
> >> Subject: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources
> >>
> >> It appears several nodes in the unstable list are running stable, and
> >> several nodes in the stable list are running unstable. Would ALL persons
> >> whose nodes are currently used as seednode sources please contact me and
> >> tell me the URL and which branch it is currently running please.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:08:07PM +, Toad wrote:
> >> > We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail
> >> > me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from
> >> > dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest
> >> > of the internet. You can do this by setting:
> >> > mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248
> >> > in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can
> >> > browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to
> >> > do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :)
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RE: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i have seen some stable nodes with connections to unstable nodes, unstable nodes with 
connections to stable nodes, seednodes for stable nodes with unstable references, 
seednodes for unstable nodes with 
stable references, you get the idea. why are stable nodes connecting AT ALL to 
unstable nodes and vice versa? they use incompatible protocols IIRC, so why should 
they even *try* to connect to incompatible 
nodes?!?

why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node refs to the 
routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long run the generated 
seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't 
they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?!?)

*scratches head* i see no sense in the current noderef politics.

>I am running stable with 5058.  I got the new node set at 5054, but I'm not
>at all sure those node are all stable (have my doubts).
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 1/14/2004 3:16:32 PM
>> Subject: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources
>>
>> It appears several nodes in the unstable list are running stable, and
>> several nodes in the stable list are running unstable. Would ALL persons
>> whose nodes are currently used as seednode sources please contact me and
>> tell me the URL and which branch it is currently running please.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:08:07PM +, Toad wrote:
>> > We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail
>> > me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from
>> > dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest
>> > of the internet. You can do this by setting:
>> > mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248
>> > in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can
>> > browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to
>> > do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :)
>> -- 
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RE: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Nicholas Sturm
I am running stable with 5058.  I got the new node set at 5054, but I'm not
at all sure those node are all stable (have my doubts).


> [Original Message]
> From: Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 1/14/2004 3:16:32 PM
> Subject: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources
>
> It appears several nodes in the unstable list are running stable, and
> several nodes in the stable list are running unstable. Would ALL persons
> whose nodes are currently used as seednode sources please contact me and
> tell me the URL and which branch it is currently running please.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:08:07PM +, Toad wrote:
> > We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail
> > me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from
> > dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest
> > of the internet. You can do this by setting:
> > mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248
> > in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can
> > browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to
> > do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :)
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Re: [freenet-support] Build 5060?

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:32:38PM -, Kevin Bennett wrote:
> I see on the web interface page:
> 
> Build: 5058 (Latest: 5060)
> 
> freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar still has the same timestamp
> as when 5058 came out (13-Jan-2004 18:20)
> 
> I don't see any 5060 nodes in the OCM or node status pages.
> 
> What can cause this?

Somebody having a laugh. Ignore it. Releases are announced on the lists.
> 
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[freenet-support] Build 5060?

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Bennett
I see on the web interface page:

Build: 5058 (Latest: 5060)

freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar still has the same timestamp
as when 5058 came out (13-Jan-2004 18:20)

I don't see any 5060 nodes in the OCM or node status pages.

What can cause this?

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RE: [freenet-support] an idiot's guide for freenet?

2004-01-14 Thread Nicholas Sturm
ZoneAlarm will show which Java ZoneAlarm is monitoring.  Any of those shown
should be accessible to freenet.  Generally do allow Freenet to access the
web.  ZoneAlarm has given be no hassles.  Since you
are running XP the install for Windows version should behave properly.


> [Original Message]
> From: Bill Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: 1/14/2004 2:57:58 PM
> Subject: [freenet-support] an idiot's guide for freenet?
>
> Hello, I would like to download and run freenet
> software but I'm given the option of dl'ing the
> software with or without Java 1.4.1.
>
> How can I determine what version of Java I am
> currently running so I can choose which download is
> correct for me?
>
> I am running Windows XP professional with the free
> version of Zonealarm as a firewall.  Are there any
> simplified (step by step) instructions for a computer
> novice (like myself)to follow for locating and
> configuring the firewall settings?
>
> Basically I'm wondering if there's an idiot's guide to
> installing and running freenet.  Thank you.
>
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[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
It appears several nodes in the unstable list are running stable, and
several nodes in the stable list are running unstable. Would ALL persons
whose nodes are currently used as seednode sources please contact me and
tell me the URL and which branch it is currently running please.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:08:07PM +, Toad wrote:
> We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail
> me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from
> dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest
> of the internet. You can do this by setting:
> mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248
> in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can
> browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to
> do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :)
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[freenet-support] Please help: seednode sources

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail
me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from
dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest
of the internet. You can do this by setting:
mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248
in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can
browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to
do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :)
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Re: [freenet-support] an idiot's guide for freenet?

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
Just download the one with the JVM...

On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:42:27AM -0800, Bill Haley wrote:
> Hello, I would like to download and run freenet
> software but I'm given the option of dl'ing the
> software with or without Java 1.4.1.
> 
> How can I determine what version of Java I am
> currently running so I can choose which download is
> correct for me?
> 
> I am running Windows XP professional with the free
> version of Zonealarm as a firewall.  Are there any
> simplified (step by step) instructions for a computer
> novice (like myself)to follow for locating and
> configuring the firewall settings?
> 
> Basically I'm wondering if there's an idiot's guide to
> installing and running freenet.  Thank you.
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[freenet-support] an idiot's guide for freenet?

2004-01-14 Thread Bill Haley
Hello, I would like to download and run freenet
software but I'm given the option of dl'ing the
software with or without Java 1.4.1.

How can I determine what version of Java I am
currently running so I can choose which download is
correct for me?

I am running Windows XP professional with the free
version of Zonealarm as a firewall.  Are there any
simplified (step by step) instructions for a computer
novice (like myself)to follow for locating and
configuring the firewall settings?

Basically I'm wondering if there's an idiot's guide to
installing and running freenet.  Thank you.

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Re: [freenet-support] 5058: Crack open some bubbly!

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 06:27:01AM -0600, S wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:24:17 +
> Kevin Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > After months of struggling, complaints, frayed tempers and dead-ends, I
> > think the current Freenet release is a major step forward. 
> 
> I concur. As far as I'm concerned 5058 is, without a doubt, the best
> stable build in months and one of the best builds I've ever seen.
> 
> With an uptime of 7 hours:
> 
> a) my routingTime is only 62ms.
> 
> b) I have ~50MB of allocated memory unused, so the machine isn't paging. 
> 
> c) CPU is down from constant 100% to averaging about 50% (lots of peaks and valleys 
> in the Task Manager).
> 
> d) there are only ~2MB of data queued to send.

It's measured slightly differently :)
> 
> e) so far I haven't seen any more than 200 or so pooled threads running.
> 
> f) load is hovering at 100% due to outbound bandwidth limit.
> 
> g) I have 332 distinct nodes connected - holy shit!

Woah.
> 
> On my node, all of this was _totally_ unheard of as recently as 5052. 
> 
> RAM and paging in particular had been serious issues for me, as the
> machine I dedicate to Freenet only has 192MB physical RAM. routingTime
> would typically stay above 5 seconds, permanently. There would be tens
> of megs worth of data queued. There were frequently 1,000+ threads going
> (up until Edward mentioned tfAbsoluteMaxThreads). Load was usually 100%
> due to either routingTime or messageSendTimeRequest, and my outbound
> bandwidth was sorely underused.
> 
> 5088 is superb. Whether it scales well or not, I agree that this is a
> huge step in the right direction. For once, my node is limited by
> bandwidth - as it should be - and not by CPU, threads, or RAM. For once,
> my lousy P3 600 actually seems like an active, healthy participant in
> the network.
> 
> Congratulations all around :)
> 
> -s
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Re: [freenet-support] 5058: Crack open some bubbly!

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:24:17AM +, Kevin Steen wrote:
> After months of struggling, complaints, frayed tempers and dead-ends, I
> think the current Freenet release is a major step forward. 
> 
> Everyone involved should give themselves a pat on the back and take a
> moment to celebrate - the war may not be over, but each little victory
> is important!
> 
> Well done to Ian and Matthew, and all the contributing devs, for not
> throwing in the towel and finding something less stressful to do with
> their time!

You mean like jobhunting? :)
> 
> -Kevin
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Signatures on builds?

2004-01-14 Thread Ian Clarke
Toad wrote:
I don't know. I don't personally vouch for every last bit of code...
Many others contribute to the code.. We cannot establish very much trust
in it anyhow, something might have gone into CVS without a CVS mail
being generated, the CVS-mail generated might not have been noticed yet,
or the change may have been so big that a cvs-mail generated was
truncated, or we might have a trojan developer, or my machine might be
compromized, or dodo might be - I could only sign a jar file I generated
myself, and normally dodo generates the jar. Yes, we could have dodo
sign the files automatically, but what if dodo is compromized? Probably
a good idea to have some signatures, but I'm not sure what level of
trust we could possibly hope to establish...
Agreed, I would rather not have any signatures at all than have 
meaningless signatures which give a false sense of security.

Coming up with a robust way to make signatures mean something is a 
pretty large project in itself (probably involving the reimplementation 
of CVS among other things).

Ian.
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[freenet-support] Re: Signatures on builds?

2004-01-14 Thread Toad
I don't know. I don't personally vouch for every last bit of code...
Many others contribute to the code.. We cannot establish very much trust
in it anyhow, something might have gone into CVS without a CVS mail
being generated, the CVS-mail generated might not have been noticed yet,
or the change may have been so big that a cvs-mail generated was
truncated, or we might have a trojan developer, or my machine might be
compromized, or dodo might be - I could only sign a jar file I generated
myself, and normally dodo generates the jar. Yes, we could have dodo
sign the files automatically, but what if dodo is compromized? Probably
a good idea to have some signatures, but I'm not sure what level of
trust we could possibly hope to establish...

On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:10:04AM +0100, Anonymous wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm just wondering if you could arrange to upload, for example, a
> detached GnuPG signature for the builds you upload to the
> freenetproject.org/snapshots/ directory.
> 
> Accidental breakages that cause information leaks is one thing, but
> a purposeful trojan could seriously shaft a lot of people, let
> alone provide some very bad press.
> 
> It would be straight forward to ./update.sh --check-sigs (after
> some hacking) to make sure that someone the person in charge
> of your private keys was indeed the person that updated the
>  .jar.  You seem to sign some of your freenet-support posting,
> but not all: so let's automate it. :)
> 
> Also, I think a small history of previous builds would be
> a good idea.  Say 10 with associated .sigs.
> freenet-latest.jar be a symlink to the current head or just a copy
> if you can do symlinks on that server: it's only ~ 2MB.
> 
>  $ NUM=5054
>  $ # ant build magic here produces freenet-stable-$NUM.jar
>  $ gnupg --detach-sign -a freenet-stable-$NUM.jar
>  $ cp freenet-stable-$NUM.jar freenet-latest.jar
>  $ cp freenet-stable-$NUM.jar.asc freenet-latest.jar.asc
>  $ # upload
> 
> Just thought.
> 
> Bye.
> 
> A. FreenetUser.
> 

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RE: [freenet-support] simple question

2004-01-14 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Title: Message


No problem reaching www.freenetproject.org from U.S. (earthlink, via Cleveland, etc.)
 

 

- Original Message - 
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Subject: RE: [freenet-support] simple question

Works fine here
 
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-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt WeaverSent: den 14 januari 2004 13:46To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [freenet-support] simple question
I cannot reach www.freenetproject.org to download all the new goodness that I have read about on the various mailing lists... Is the site down for some reason, or should I look harder on my end? I am having no other connectivity issues with my old freenet node, or any other internet related traffic... I have also tried to connect to the site from 3 distinct places, all on 3 totally different ISPs, and types of connectivity.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: simple question

2004-01-14 Thread S
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:39:14 -0500
"news.gmane.org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hrm, well, I can't even seem to resolve the name, now that I have tried to
> do a trace to it... It also seems that one of the other ISPs that I tried
> that didn't work is now working again, to that site... Time to go have a
> whack at my DNS admin upstairs =)

Hope you get the problem resolved quickly (lame pun slightly intended).
If on the off chance geneva.edu is intentionally blocking access to
freenetproject.org or mucking with the DNS, it would be interesting to
know.

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[freenet-support] Re: simple question

2004-01-14 Thread news.gmane.org
Hrm, well, I can't even seem to resolve the name, now that I have tried to
do a trace to it... It also seems that one of the other ISPs that I tried
that didn't work is now working again, to that site... Time to go have a
whack at my DNS admin upstairs =)

-Matt

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> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:45:37 -0500
> "Matt Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I cannot reach www.freenetproject.org to download all the new goodness
that I have read about on the various mailing lists... Is the site down for
some reason, or should I look harder on my end? I am having no other
connectivity issues with my old freenet node, or any other internet related
traffic... I have also tried to connect to the site from 3 distinct places,
all on 3 totally different ISPs, and types of connectivity.
> >
> > -Matt
>
> I can get there from here (RoadRunner), algx, sprintlink, alter.net, and
> samspade.org which looks to be Verio. Can you post a traceroute? It
> should die at 66.35.210.202 and no sooner.
>
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Re: [freenet-support] simple question

2004-01-14 Thread S
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:45:37 -0500
"Matt Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cannot reach www.freenetproject.org to download all the new goodness that I have 
> read about on the various mailing lists... Is the site down for some reason, or 
> should I look harder on my end? I am having no other connectivity issues with my old 
> freenet node, or any other internet related traffic... I have also tried to connect 
> to the site from 3 distinct places, all on 3 totally different ISPs, and types of 
> connectivity.
> 
> -Matt

I can get there from here (RoadRunner), algx, sprintlink, alter.net, and
samspade.org which looks to be Verio. Can you post a traceroute? It
should die at 66.35.210.202 and no sooner.

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Re: [freenet-support] 5058: Crack open some bubbly!

2004-01-14 Thread Ian Clarke
Brandon Low wrote:
I have e-mailed a thread dump to 2 good devs,
Awww, why not let the evil devs have a go at it too?

;-)

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RE: [freenet-support] simple question

2004-01-14 Thread Niklas Bergh
Title: Message



Works fine 
here
 
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  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Matt WeaverSent: den 14 januari 2004 
  13:46To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [freenet-support] simple question
  I cannot reach www.freenetproject.org to download 
  all the new goodness that I have read about on the various mailing lists... Is 
  the site down for some reason, or should I look harder on my end? I am having 
  no other connectivity issues with my old freenet node, or any other internet 
  related traffic... I have also tried to connect to the site from 3 distinct 
  places, all on 3 totally different ISPs, and types of 
  connectivity.
   
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Re: [freenet-support] 5058: Crack open some bubbly!

2004-01-14 Thread Brandon Low
On my node, 5058 is _grand_ for a few hours, but then it dies a horrible
and painful lock contention death.  I have e-mailed a thread dump to 2
good devs, and hopefully they will be able to reduce the lock contention
and then I will join the celebration.

--Brandon

On Wed, 01/14/04 at 11:24:17 +, Kevin Steen wrote:
> After months of struggling, complaints, frayed tempers and dead-ends, I
> think the current Freenet release is a major step forward. 
> 
> Everyone involved should give themselves a pat on the back and take a
> moment to celebrate - the war may not be over, but each little victory
> is important!
> 
> Well done to Ian and Matthew, and all the contributing devs, for not
> throwing in the towel and finding something less stressful to do with
> their time!
> 
> -Kevin
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[freenet-support] simple question

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Weaver



I cannot reach www.freenetproject.org to download all 
the new goodness that I have read about on the various mailing lists... Is the 
site down for some reason, or should I look harder on my end? I am having no 
other connectivity issues with my old freenet node, or any other internet 
related traffic... I have also tried to connect to the site from 3 distinct 
places, all on 3 totally different ISPs, and types of connectivity.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] 5058: Crack open some bubbly!

2004-01-14 Thread S
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:24:17 +
Kevin Steen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After months of struggling, complaints, frayed tempers and dead-ends, I
> think the current Freenet release is a major step forward. 

I concur. As far as I'm concerned 5058 is, without a doubt, the best
stable build in months and one of the best builds I've ever seen.

With an uptime of 7 hours:

a) my routingTime is only 62ms.

b) I have ~50MB of allocated memory unused, so the machine isn't paging. 

c) CPU is down from constant 100% to averaging about 50% (lots of peaks and valleys in 
the Task Manager).

d) there are only ~2MB of data queued to send.

e) so far I haven't seen any more than 200 or so pooled threads running.

f) load is hovering at 100% due to outbound bandwidth limit.

g) I have 332 distinct nodes connected - holy shit!

On my node, all of this was _totally_ unheard of as recently as 5052. 

RAM and paging in particular had been serious issues for me, as the
machine I dedicate to Freenet only has 192MB physical RAM. routingTime
would typically stay above 5 seconds, permanently. There would be tens
of megs worth of data queued. There were frequently 1,000+ threads going
(up until Edward mentioned tfAbsoluteMaxThreads). Load was usually 100%
due to either routingTime or messageSendTimeRequest, and my outbound
bandwidth was sorely underused.

5088 is superb. Whether it scales well or not, I agree that this is a
huge step in the right direction. For once, my node is limited by
bandwidth - as it should be - and not by CPU, threads, or RAM. For once,
my lousy P3 600 actually seems like an active, healthy participant in
the network.

Congratulations all around :)

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[freenet-support] 5058: Crack open some bubbly!

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Steen
After months of struggling, complaints, frayed tempers and dead-ends, I
think the current Freenet release is a major step forward. 

Everyone involved should give themselves a pat on the back and take a
moment to celebrate - the war may not be over, but each little victory
is important!

Well done to Ian and Matthew, and all the contributing devs, for not
throwing in the towel and finding something less stressful to do with
their time!

-Kevin

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Re: [freenet-support] Stable Build 5054: Multiplexing merged!

2004-01-14 Thread Troed Sångberg
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:17:04 +, Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The main change in this build is that multiplexing has been merged  
after
>weeks of development and testing. The network has been reset, so you
>will need to reseed from
>http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref (save that over your
>existing seednodes.ref and restart the node). There are likely to be

Does this mean that the stable and unstable networks have merged?
Nope. Unstable remains separate.
Yesterday's retrieval of CofE and DFI were most likely due to people  
switching from unstable to stable (bringing their cache along) when stable  
build 5054 came out. Today I can't get an activelink for CofE and DFI  
doesn't load (but I can still see the active link).

Other bookmarks work as they should, so the above is the most likely  
explanation.

Nice work recently on Freenet Toad, stable works extremely well now  
compared to just a few weeks ago!

regards,
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RE: [freenet-support] Stable build 5055 crashes under Linux

2004-01-14 Thread Niklas Bergh
Yup. This means that the newest item in your datastore has a timestamp
that is larger than what your current system clock says the time is.

Have you modified the clock on the machine or similar recently?

I recommend that you locate those files in your ds that is timestamped
in the future and reset their timestamps to now (touch maybe). Or.. If
it only is a matter of minutes.. Restart the node after those minutes
have passes.

/N

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> Justin The Cynical
> Sent: den 13 januari 2004 09:56
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> Subject: [freenet-support] Stable build 5055 crashes under Linux
> 
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> I got the message about the new build and the reports that 
> it's faster than the older builds.  Yippie!
> 
> So, I run update.sh, delete the old freenet.log, touch it, 
> and start the following command as nobody:
> 
> sh start-freenet.sh ; tail -f ./freenet.log
> 
> And here is what I find in my log:
> 
> Jan 14, 2004 12:34:20 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): 
> Starting Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5058 on JVM Sun 
> Microsystems Inc.:Java
> HotSpot(TM) Client VM:1.4.2_03-b0 2
> Jan 14, 2004 12:34:22 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): 
> loading node
> keys: node Jan 14, 2004 12:34:22 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, 
> NORMAL): Read node file Jan 14, 2004 12:34:23 AM 
> (freenet.node.Main, main,
> NORMAL): starting filesystem Jan 14, 2004 12:34:26 AM 
> (freenet.node.Main, main, ERROR): Unexpected Exception: 
> freenet.fs.dir.DirectoryException freenet.fs.dir.DirectoryException:
> Clock skew
> at
> freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.verifyList(NativeFSDirectory.
> java:2042)
> at freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.(NativeFSDirectory.java:943)
> at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:684)
> 
> Obviously, it's not going any further.  Any ideas?
> 
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[freenet-support] Stable build 5055 crashes under Linux

2004-01-14 Thread Justin The Cynical
*sigh*

I got the message about the new build and the reports that it's faster
than the older builds.  Yippie!

So, I run update.sh, delete the old freenet.log, touch it, and start the
following command as nobody:

sh start-freenet.sh ; tail -f ./freenet.log

And here is what I find in my log:

Jan 14, 2004 12:34:20 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting
Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5058 on JVM Sun Microsystems Inc.:Java
HotSpot(TM) Client VM:1.4.2_03-b0 2
Jan 14, 2004 12:34:22 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading node
keys: node Jan 14, 2004 12:34:22 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL):
Read node file Jan 14, 2004 12:34:23 AM (freenet.node.Main, main,
NORMAL): starting filesystem Jan 14, 2004 12:34:26 AM
(freenet.node.Main, main, ERROR): Unexpected Exception:
freenet.fs.dir.DirectoryException freenet.fs.dir.DirectoryException:
Clock skew
at
freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.verifyList(NativeFSDirectory.java:2042)
at freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.(NativeFSDirectory.java:943)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:684)

Obviously, it's not going any further.  Any ideas?

Justin
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