Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread Kevin Tollison
I use Engenius equipment quite often. They support a management interface and 
up to 4 SSIDs all controlled with VLAN tagging.  
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From: Fred Boiteux
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Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?
Sent: Nov 18, 2010 2:39 PM

Le Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:10:18 +0100,
Seth Mos seth@dds.nl a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 As we use an Alix 2d3 board with 3 ethernet interfaces, there is
  one free at now : could we use this OPT interface to manage backbone
  network, with an address in its subnet 192.168.1.0/24, and put an
  address from 192.168.2.0/24 subnet on the LAN interface to serve
  clients, provided these two LAN and OPT will be connected through a
  switch to the first antenna of the backbone where all traffic is
  passing ?
 
 I think you want a managed switch that has vlan support. You can then 
 use the 3rd port on the alix for connecting all the vlans.

The different LAN subnets' trafic aren't VLAN tagged, and all traffic
comes from one Ethernet port (from the nearest antenna), so I don't
understand how VLAN could be used there ?

Fred.



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[pfSense Support] User browsing - Access / Reporting

2010-11-19 Thread Dominic
Hi All,

I am currently using pfSense 1.2.3 with Squid to provide browsing
access to users. Until now this has worked
perfectly and the Lightsquid package has been used for reporting.

This however now needs to change to AD based authentication for
browsing and been able to pull user
reports based on their user info.

Can anyone recommend the best way of doing this without having a login
prompt for the user info? For
example a login page (Can Captive Portal do this authentication and
still allow me to pull Lightsquid reports?).

I know the Squid / AD authentication will work but the popup this
returns is not acceptable to the users
and thus needs to be changed to either a transparent process or a login page.

Any suggestions on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Dom.

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Re: [pfSense Support] SCP stalls with OpenVPN

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Mansfield
On 13/11/10 02:01, Karsten Becker wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I have the problem that if I'm connected with OpenVPN (Ubuntu 10.04), I
 get stalled copies when doing scp. CIFS copies work.
 
 Has anybody an idea where to start fire fighting or by what this could
 be caused?

try reducing MTU, or, unblocking icmp?


http://www.znep.com/~marcs/mtu/

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Re: [pfSense Support] LAGG Question

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Mansfield
On 25/10/10 16:33, James Bensley wrote:
 pfSense doesn't allow you to configure an IP address, mask and gateway
 for every interface on the box, only the interfaces assigned as LAN
 and WAN. 

for the sake of the record, that's entirely wrong... the web ui allows
you add new interfaces and rename them... so create an OPT and call it
WAN2, say.


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Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread Richard Amerman
I do this all the time and using a separate nic is simpler and easier to
manage than an alias. Unless I am missing something, a vlan for this case is
overkill.

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Richard


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:13 PM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:51 PM, fi...@7technw.com fi...@7technw.com
 wrote:
  Another easy solution is to just add another nic.

 Not an option in this case. The OP described a wireless network where
 the client subnet and management subnet exist on the same physical
 network. You can't change that in this case, so your two options are
 to separate them virtually (vlans) or just run them on the same
 physical network.

 Yes, he could use another NIC and plug it into a switch along with the
 first NIC and the wireless network, but this still doesn't separate
 the two networks, and is no better than creating an alias on the
 existing NIC.

 db

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Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread David Burgess
On 2010-11-19 9:56 AM, Richard Amerman fi...@7technw.com wrote:
 I do this all the time and using a separate nic is simpler and easier to
 manage than an alias. Unless I am missing something, a vlan for this case
is
 overkill.

I discussed this with the m0n0wall list back in '07 where cmb and others
essentially said that it's a bad idea to run 2 subnets on a physical
network, mostly for security reasons, I think.

Given the option I would do the vlan thing, just for the added layer
separating the hostile users from my stuff.

db


Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread Richard Amerman
When there is a good use-case I completely agree with you, and it is
probably my fault for not remembering that his traffic probably needed to be
kept more separate.

In many cases it is completely a non issue. In most of the cases I use this
method it is all within a single internal organization so no risk at all.


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Richard


On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:14 AM, David Burgess apt@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2010-11-19 9:56 AM, Richard Amerman fi...@7technw.com wrote:
  I do this all the time and using a separate nic is simpler and easier to
  manage than an alias. Unless I am missing something, a vlan for this case
 is
  overkill.

 I discussed this with the m0n0wall list back in '07 where cmb and others
 essentially said that it's a bad idea to run 2 subnets on a physical
 network, mostly for security reasons, I think.

 Given the option I would do the vlan thing, just for the added layer
 separating the hostile users from my stuff.

 db



Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread Fred Boiteux
Hi,

Le Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:16:24 -0700,
David Burgess apt@gmail.com a écrit :

 In that case you can add an alias to the LAN interface. IIRC, you just
 run ifconfig appending 'alias' to the end. Don't quote me on it
 though.
 
 Get that working, then use shellcmd to make it stick across reboots.
 You will also want to check the box in the UI to supress arp errors in
 the logs.

I saw the
http://doc.pfsense.org/multiple-subnets-one-interface-pfsense.pdf
but I was doubtful about how well it's supported in PfSense :-/


 vlans are still the preferred method if your radios support it. What
 brand are you using?
We have a mix of old and newer hardware, from Cisco, Linksys (WRT54GL),
and trying also Ubiquity. I'm not sure all these wifi routers can
manage VLAN, but I'll look at this.

I was thinking about the other solution, pluging another nic of the
Pfsense (Alix) on the same wire (with a switch) and allocating each nic
a different subnet.

  Many thanks to all people for suggestions and feedback,
Fred.

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Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Fred Boiteux fblis...@free.fr wrote:

 I saw the
 http://doc.pfsense.org/multiple-subnets-one-interface-pfsense.pdf
 but I was doubtful about how well it's supported in PfSense :-/


Works fine. Generally bad network design to have multiple IP subnets
on the same broadcast domain, but works.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Installed 1.2.3 on Soekris 5501-70 - 8G CF card - expand the slice and filesystem?

2010-11-19 Thread Gé Weijers



I installed the image to the CF card using dd in Linux with 16k block size.  It 
fired right up and I was able to configure it over
the serial port.  I would like to resize the slice and growfs if possible.  I 
would have installed the 8g image if there was one... 
I have done this in Linux many times.  Is this possible with the embedded 
version of pfsense?  I haven't done much configuration on
the box so I could image the CF card again if needed.


You probably can resize the partitions using 'gparted' on a Linux machine, 
but then you have to mess with the BSD disk labels on the first two 
partitions, and then use 'growfs'. I don't think it's worth it, it'll be a 
steep learning curve if you have little experience with BSD. The first two 
partitions are never written to, except during a firmware update, so why 
grow them?


If you make a backup of your configuration through the GUI (one XML 
file) you have zero risk of losing anything, just reflash and restore if 
something breaks.


BTW: try 'fdisk /dev/ad0'. /dev/ufs/pfsense0 refers to the first 
partition, so it won't have an MBR. /dev/ad0 is the first physical device 
on my Alix board (same processor, same chipset).


Gé
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Re: [pfSense Support] how to manage 2 subnets for LAN ?

2010-11-19 Thread Gé Weijers



On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Fred Boiteux wrote:


We'd like to separate IPs of bacbone antennas from client ones, for
example 192.168.1.0/24 for antennas and  192.168.2.0/24 for
people. How this could be done ? [...]


I hope you realize that your customers can manually switch subnets on 
their end and talk directly to the management ports on your wireless 
accesspoints in the multiple subnet scenario.


The nice thing about using VLANs is that the traffic has to go through the 
router to get to the management network, which firewall rules can prevent. 
If you use two subnets on one interface you do not get to filter the 
traffic if someone wants to mess with your AP.


Ge'

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