RE: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
-Original Message- From: Duncan Hall [mailto:dun...@viator.com] Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 8:47 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP Simon Thomson wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org] > Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 9:07 PM > To: support@pfsense.com > Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP > > On 12/15/2009 6:31 AM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > >> Ugo Bellavance schrieb: >> >>> I like this answer, and there are really 2 facts that are highlighted >>> here: >>> >>> - Users will always complain >>> - The better your product and product history, the less users will >>> read the warnings. PfSense has always had a good record to me, so I >>> don't read the upgrade document at each upgrade. >>> >>> I'll wait for the image, Chris, and I don't mind the few weeks of >>> wait, but I think that maybe uploading a (or a set of) README files on >>> the mirror would help... I would personnally be very tempted to read a >>> README file while it is downloading, especially if it has "WRAP" in >>> its name. >>> >>> > > >> That might help, but it is mentioned in the Upgrade Guide, and a couple >> places on the Doc Wiki. I thought it was mentioned in the release >> announcement, but I may have been thinking about one of the -RC version >> announcements. >> > > >> I upgraded my ALIX yesterday to 1.2.3-RELEASE and found out I need the >> BIOS-update (I switched from 128M embedded to 4GB version, too). Turns >> out that the image for the BIOS-update provided on the pfSense.org page >> doesn't work (maybe it's for a different ALIX, I have an ALIX2-series >> board). >> Of course, I only found out about this after I had wiped my working >> pfSense installation with the BIOS-update image (and no old image >> available, and no internet-access anymore). >> >> Luckily, I was able to tether my iMac with my on-call iPhone (the >> personal iPhone doesn't have 3G reception at home) and download the >> required files from the pcengines website and finally run 1.2.3 - after >> a couple of wasted hours. >> >> So much for "a ready-made image makes it easier for everybody" >> > > >>> Which model ALIX do you have? It says on the page that there are some >>> excluded models, usually it's the ones with VGA that require a different >>> BIOS. Did the image not boot at all? Or what did it do? >>> > > >>> Jim >>> > > I have run into this issue also, although I am still in the planning stage of > an upgrade. > We are running pfsense 1.2.2 on an Alix2c3 board. > I know I need to upgrade the bios prior to installing pfsense 1.2.3-RELEASE > but everywhere I look for an updated bios this model is expressly excluded. > > Regards, > Simon. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com > For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com > > Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org > > >I have several Alix2c3 boards that I purchased up from www.yawarra.com.au >I upgraded the bios to 0.99h as per the instructions here: >http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/ALIX_BIOS_Update_Procedure >Now happily running the 4 gig Nano version of 1.2.3 >Regards, >Duncan Cheers Duncan, it's good to know it can be done. I'd read that page but miss read the first line and thought it excluded the Alix2c3. It seems we are both happy yawarra customers. Regards, Simon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
Simon Thomson wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org] Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 9:07 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP On 12/15/2009 6:31 AM, Rainer Duffner wrote: Ugo Bellavance schrieb: I like this answer, and there are really 2 facts that are highlighted here: - Users will always complain - The better your product and product history, the less users will read the warnings. PfSense has always had a good record to me, so I don't read the upgrade document at each upgrade. I'll wait for the image, Chris, and I don't mind the few weeks of wait, but I think that maybe uploading a (or a set of) README files on the mirror would help... I would personnally be very tempted to read a README file while it is downloading, especially if it has "WRAP" in its name. That might help, but it is mentioned in the Upgrade Guide, and a couple places on the Doc Wiki. I thought it was mentioned in the release announcement, but I may have been thinking about one of the -RC version announcements. I upgraded my ALIX yesterday to 1.2.3-RELEASE and found out I need the BIOS-update (I switched from 128M embedded to 4GB version, too). Turns out that the image for the BIOS-update provided on the pfSense.org page doesn't work (maybe it's for a different ALIX, I have an ALIX2-series board). Of course, I only found out about this after I had wiped my working pfSense installation with the BIOS-update image (and no old image available, and no internet-access anymore). Luckily, I was able to tether my iMac with my on-call iPhone (the personal iPhone doesn't have 3G reception at home) and download the required files from the pcengines website and finally run 1.2.3 - after a couple of wasted hours. So much for "a ready-made image makes it easier for everybody" Which model ALIX do you have? It says on the page that there are some excluded models, usually it's the ones with VGA that require a different BIOS. Did the image not boot at all? Or what did it do? Jim I have run into this issue also, although I am still in the planning stage of an upgrade. We are running pfsense 1.2.2 on an Alix2c3 board. I know I need to upgrade the bios prior to installing pfsense 1.2.3-RELEASE but everywhere I look for an updated bios this model is expressly excluded. Regards, Simon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org I have several Alix2c3 boards that I purchased up from www.yawarra.com.au I upgraded the bios to 0.99h as per the instructions here: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/ALIX_BIOS_Update_Procedure Now happily running the 4 gig Nano version of 1.2.3 Regards, Duncan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
RE: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
-Original Message- From: Jim Pingle [mailto:li...@pingle.org] Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 9:07 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP On 12/15/2009 6:31 AM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Ugo Bellavance schrieb: >> I like this answer, and there are really 2 facts that are highlighted >> here: >> >> - Users will always complain >> - The better your product and product history, the less users will >> read the warnings. PfSense has always had a good record to me, so I >> don't read the upgrade document at each upgrade. >> >> I'll wait for the image, Chris, and I don't mind the few weeks of >> wait, but I think that maybe uploading a (or a set of) README files on >> the mirror would help... I would personnally be very tempted to read a >> README file while it is downloading, especially if it has "WRAP" in >> its name. >> >That might help, but it is mentioned in the Upgrade Guide, and a couple >places on the Doc Wiki. I thought it was mentioned in the release >announcement, but I may have been thinking about one of the -RC version >announcements. > I upgraded my ALIX yesterday to 1.2.3-RELEASE and found out I need the > BIOS-update (I switched from 128M embedded to 4GB version, too). Turns > out that the image for the BIOS-update provided on the pfSense.org page > doesn't work (maybe it's for a different ALIX, I have an ALIX2-series > board). > Of course, I only found out about this after I had wiped my working > pfSense installation with the BIOS-update image (and no old image > available, and no internet-access anymore). > > Luckily, I was able to tether my iMac with my on-call iPhone (the > personal iPhone doesn't have 3G reception at home) and download the > required files from the pcengines website and finally run 1.2.3 - after > a couple of wasted hours. > > So much for "a ready-made image makes it easier for everybody" >>Which model ALIX do you have? It says on the page that there are some >>excluded models, usually it's the ones with VGA that require a different >>BIOS. Did the image not boot at all? Or what did it do? >>Jim I have run into this issue also, although I am still in the planning stage of an upgrade. We are running pfsense 1.2.2 on an Alix2c3 board. I know I need to upgrade the bios prior to installing pfsense 1.2.3-RELEASE but everywhere I look for an updated bios this model is expressly excluded. Regards, Simon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
Jim Pingle schrieb: > > Which model ALIX do you have? alix2d1 according to the receipt. > It says on the page that there are some > excluded models, usually it's the ones with VGA that require a different > BIOS. Did the image not boot at all? Or what did it do? > IIRC, the ALIX basically said that it didn't find a boot-disk. OSX makes it dead-easy to mount those img-files and add some stuff, so it was not that difficult to do. Just time-consuming. I had never touched that BIOS before (been using a WRAP with pfSense since late 2005) and so I needed some time to realize that it's not my stupidity. ;-) Rainer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
On 12/15/2009 6:31 AM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Ugo Bellavance schrieb: >> I like this answer, and there are really 2 facts that are highlighted >> here: >> >> - Users will always complain >> - The better your product and product history, the less users will >> read the warnings. PfSense has always had a good record to me, so I >> don't read the upgrade document at each upgrade. >> >> I'll wait for the image, Chris, and I don't mind the few weeks of >> wait, but I think that maybe uploading a (or a set of) README files on >> the mirror would help... I would personnally be very tempted to read a >> README file while it is downloading, especially if it has "WRAP" in >> its name. >> That might help, but it is mentioned in the Upgrade Guide, and a couple places on the Doc Wiki. I thought it was mentioned in the release announcement, but I may have been thinking about one of the -RC version announcements. > I upgraded my ALIX yesterday to 1.2.3-RELEASE and found out I need the > BIOS-update (I switched from 128M embedded to 4GB version, too). Turns > out that the image for the BIOS-update provided on the pfSense.org page > doesn't work (maybe it's for a different ALIX, I have an ALIX2-series > board). > Of course, I only found out about this after I had wiped my working > pfSense installation with the BIOS-update image (and no old image > available, and no internet-access anymore). > > Luckily, I was able to tether my iMac with my on-call iPhone (the > personal iPhone doesn't have 3G reception at home) and download the > required files from the pcengines website and finally run 1.2.3 - after > a couple of wasted hours. > > So much for "a ready-made image makes it easier for everybody" Which model ALIX do you have? It says on the page that there are some excluded models, usually it's the ones with VGA that require a different BIOS. Did the image not boot at all? Or what did it do? Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
Re: [pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
Ugo Bellavance schrieb: > On 2009-12-14 22:17, Chris Buechler wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Scott Ullrich >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote: Hi, http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/NanoBSD_on_WRAP Has someone done the first step what would be kind enough to put the resulting image available for download? I worked a few hours on this before discovering that article, and I don't have much time to setup a separate freebsd/pfsense box to do the changes. >>> >>> If we where to do this then nobody would read the page and they would >>> then complain later down the road when they finally learn the >>> limitations of the image. >>> >> >> People will complain no matter what, even when the cause is a hardware >> bug outside our control. I plan on eventually uploading an image ready >> to write, for download on the above linked page, after the text >> showing the warnings. No sense in making all WRAP users jump through >> the same hoops. Eventually being whenever I have time, which won't be >> this week. > > I tried to write a decent reply to Scott a couple of times, and I > decided not to answer because I felt he could get upset with my answer > (and it wasn't my goal), maybe because my English is not good enough, > or maybe there wasn't a way. > > I like this answer, and there are really 2 facts that are highlighted > here: > > - Users will always complain > - The better your product and product history, the less users will > read the warnings. PfSense has always had a good record to me, so I > don't read the upgrade document at each upgrade. > > I'll wait for the image, Chris, and I don't mind the few weeks of > wait, but I think that maybe uploading a (or a set of) README files on > the mirror would help... I would personnally be very tempted to read a > README file while it is downloading, especially if it has "WRAP" in > its name. > I upgraded my ALIX yesterday to 1.2.3-RELEASE and found out I need the BIOS-update (I switched from 128M embedded to 4GB version, too). Turns out that the image for the BIOS-update provided on the pfSense.org page doesn't work (maybe it's for a different ALIX, I have an ALIX2-series board). Of course, I only found out about this after I had wiped my working pfSense installation with the BIOS-update image (and no old image available, and no internet-access anymore). Luckily, I was able to tether my iMac with my on-call iPhone (the personal iPhone doesn't have 3G reception at home) and download the required files from the pcengines website and finally run 1.2.3 - after a couple of wasted hours. So much for "a ready-made image makes it easier for everybody" Rainer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
[pfSense Support] Re: NanoBSD on WRAP
On 2009-12-14 22:17, Chris Buechler wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Scott Ullrich wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote: Hi, http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/NanoBSD_on_WRAP Has someone done the first step what would be kind enough to put the resulting image available for download? I worked a few hours on this before discovering that article, and I don't have much time to setup a separate freebsd/pfsense box to do the changes. If we where to do this then nobody would read the page and they would then complain later down the road when they finally learn the limitations of the image. People will complain no matter what, even when the cause is a hardware bug outside our control. I plan on eventually uploading an image ready to write, for download on the above linked page, after the text showing the warnings. No sense in making all WRAP users jump through the same hoops. Eventually being whenever I have time, which won't be this week. I tried to write a decent reply to Scott a couple of times, and I decided not to answer because I felt he could get upset with my answer (and it wasn't my goal), maybe because my English is not good enough, or maybe there wasn't a way. I like this answer, and there are really 2 facts that are highlighted here: - Users will always complain - The better your product and product history, the less users will read the warnings. PfSense has always had a good record to me, so I don't read the upgrade document at each upgrade. I'll wait for the image, Chris, and I don't mind the few weeks of wait, but I think that maybe uploading a (or a set of) README files on the mirror would help... I would personnally be very tempted to read a README file while it is downloading, especially if it has "WRAP" in its name. BTW, I just found out that the PfSense Book is available on Amazon, I'll order one very soon ! Regards, Ugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org
