Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-06 Thread Beat Siegenthaler
 On 05.10.10 20:43, Adam Thompson wrote:
 (On an unrelated note - anyone know why I can't send emails to this list 
 from my BlackBerry?  Works for other mailman-managed lists elsewhere...)

As I remember this is not mailman. It is ezmlm. And I cannot send mails
from my regular account too.
Because we do SRS and ezmlm is not aware of this.  Maybe Your BB sends
SRS or BATV envelopes..

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[pfSense Support] Re: (Possible Spam) RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-05 Thread Glenn Kelley


we have done many a /22 using pfsense with ease - even running bgp.

Reason I suggest maybe having them stay on pfsense in this case is - if they 
are asking this question - they might be completely lost in Cisco Land. 

I have recently moved to using vyatta first - their paid product is great - 
opensource lacks support imho 

I agree w/ you if you have the experience however ;-) using cisco or something 
similar


On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: David Burgess [mailto:apt@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:23 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller
 subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box
 
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chris Flugstad ch...@cascadelink.com
 wrote:
 
 -how to i break up the large block into smaller blocks
 
 Like this?
 
 http://www.vlsm-calc.net/
 
 db
 
 It depends on how it's delivered to you, but typically, your provider will 
 allocate a /30 to use for the route between them and your WAN interface, and 
 then route (via static routes or a dynamic routing protocol) the /22 to your 
 box.  You can then create the various VLAN and physical interfaces for the 
 internal network and assign the smaller blocks to each interface.
 
 So, in short, your first step is likely going to be 'talk to your transit 
 provider' to get a /30 setup.
 
 To be honest, I wouldn't use a pfsense box to sit in front of a /22 though.  
 I'd use a Cisco router, and then slice up the first /26 or /27 into some 
 reserved space for /30's.  Then you can use the /30's to route your various 
 subnets to multiple PFsense boxes as needed.
 
 By the way, it would be awesome if PFsense supported RFC 3021 and implement 
 /31 support... could be twice as efficient with routing networks.
 
 Best Regards,
 Nathan Eisenberg
 Atlas Networks | Sr. Systems Administrator
 office: 206.577.3078  |  www.atlasnetworks.us


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[pfSense Support] Re: (Possible Spam) RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-05 Thread Glenn Kelley


we have done many a /22 using pfsense with ease - even running bgp.

Reason I suggest maybe having them stay on pfsense in this case is - if they 
are asking this question - they might be completely lost in Cisco Land. 

I have recently moved to using vyatta first - their paid product is great - 
opensource lacks support imho 

I agree w/ you if you have the experience however ;-) using cisco or something 
similar


On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: David Burgess [mailto:apt@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:23 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller
 subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box
 
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chris Flugstad ch...@cascadelink.com
 wrote:
 
 -how to i break up the large block into smaller blocks
 
 Like this?
 
 http://www.vlsm-calc.net/
 
 db
 
 It depends on how it's delivered to you, but typically, your provider will 
 allocate a /30 to use for the route between them and your WAN interface, and 
 then route (via static routes or a dynamic routing protocol) the /22 to your 
 box.  You can then create the various VLAN and physical interfaces for the 
 internal network and assign the smaller blocks to each interface.
 
 So, in short, your first step is likely going to be 'talk to your transit 
 provider' to get a /30 setup.
 
 To be honest, I wouldn't use a pfsense box to sit in front of a /22 though.  
 I'd use a Cisco router, and then slice up the first /26 or /27 into some 
 reserved space for /30's.  Then you can use the /30's to route your various 
 subnets to multiple PFsense boxes as needed.
 
 By the way, it would be awesome if PFsense supported RFC 3021 and implement 
 /31 support... could be twice as efficient with routing networks.
 
 Best Regards,
 Nathan Eisenberg
 Atlas Networks | Sr. Systems Administrator
 office: 206.577.3078  |  www.atlasnetworks.us


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RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-05 Thread Adam Thompson
Yeah, oops.  :-)

LOL - I'm sitting in a Microsoft conference geared to large telecom 
operators providing HDTV programming, and they announced that IPv6 is 
*not* on their roadmap because we haven't heard from customers that 
address exhaustion is a significant problem.  Given that ATT is the 
biggest customer for this particular product, I have to wonder WTF is 
going on inside both ATT and Microsoft.

Not on the roadmap.  Geez.  Is there anyone on this list who *hasn't* run 
into issues because of IPv4 address exhaustion yet?

(On an unrelated note - anyone know why I can't send emails to this list 
from my BlackBerry?  Works for other mailman-managed lists elsewhere...)

-Adam


 -Original Message-
 From: Nathan Eisenberg [mailto:nat...@atlasnetworks.us]
 Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 16:49
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into
 smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

  Let's say you wanted to split your /22 into two /21s.

 I can make two /21s out of a single /22?  Sweet jesus, you've
 solved the IP exhaustion crisis!  :-)

 Nathan


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Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-04 Thread David Burgess
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chris Flugstad ch...@cascadelink.com wrote:

 -how to i break up the large block into smaller blocks

Like this?

http://www.vlsm-calc.net/

db

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Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-04 Thread Chris Flugstad
 I know how to make them smaller, but don't i need to set the smaller 
subs in pfsense?  i wasnt specific i guess.


i know what smaller subnets would look like, but i'd think id have to 
set them up in pfsense, so  I am asking something in which I havent done 
before and therefor am lost ;)

-chris

On 10/4/2010 4:23 PM, David Burgess wrote:

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chris Flugstadch...@cascadelink.com  wrote:


-how to i break up the large block into smaller blocks

Like this?

http://www.vlsm-calc.net/

db

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RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-04 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
 -Original Message-
 From: David Burgess [mailto:apt@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:23 PM
 To: support@pfsense.com
 Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller
 subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box
 
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chris Flugstad ch...@cascadelink.com
 wrote:
 
  -how to i break up the large block into smaller blocks
 
 Like this?
 
 http://www.vlsm-calc.net/
 
 db

It depends on how it's delivered to you, but typically, your provider will 
allocate a /30 to use for the route between them and your WAN interface, and 
then route (via static routes or a dynamic routing protocol) the /22 to your 
box.  You can then create the various VLAN and physical interfaces for the 
internal network and assign the smaller blocks to each interface.

So, in short, your first step is likely going to be 'talk to your transit 
provider' to get a /30 setup.

To be honest, I wouldn't use a pfsense box to sit in front of a /22 though.  
I'd use a Cisco router, and then slice up the first /26 or /27 into some 
reserved space for /30's.  Then you can use the /30's to route your various 
subnets to multiple PFsense boxes as needed.

By the way, it would be awesome if PFsense supported RFC 3021 and implement /31 
support... could be twice as efficient with routing networks.

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
Atlas Networks | Sr. Systems Administrator
office: 206.577.3078  |  www.atlasnetworks.us


RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-04 Thread Adam Thompson
I'm not sure if this is too low-level an answer, but...

Let's say you wanted to split your /22 into two /21s.
Instead of configuring the LAN interface with the /22, you could configure the 
LAN interface with the first /21 network, and create an OPT1 interface and 
configure it with the second /21.

Suppose you have obtained 10.10.8.0/22.  (Pretend it's publicly-routable 
address space for this explanation.)
Your provider has agreed to route that netblock for you.  (Regardless of which 
one of you advertises it.)
Your provider might assign 192.168.255.252/30 as the link to you, using .253 
for their end and .254 for your end.
Your WAN address will then be 192.168.255.254/30, your default gw would be 
192.168.255.253.

Suppose you needed to split your /22 into four (traditional class C) /24s.
You might configure the LAN interface as 10.10.8.0/24, OPT1 as 10.10.9.0/24, 
OPT2 as 10.10.10.0/24, and OPT3 as 10.10.11.0/24.

Not sure if that's the level of example you're looking for or not...
-Adam Thompson
 athom...@c3a.ca



From: Chris Flugstad [ch...@cascadelink.com]
Sent: October-04-10 18:32
To: support@pfsense.com
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets 
to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

  I know how to make them smaller, but don't i need to set the smaller
subs in pfsense?  i wasnt specific i guess.

i know what smaller subnets would look like, but i'd think id have to
set them up in pfsense, so  I am asking something in which I havent done
before and therefor am lost ;)
-chris

On 10/4/2010 4:23 PM, David Burgess wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chris Flugstadch...@cascadelink.com  wrote:

 -how to i break up the large block into smaller blocks
 Like this?

 http://www.vlsm-calc.net/

 db

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RE: [pfSense Support] How do I break down a /22 into smaller subnets to use behind(LAN) side of my pfsense box

2010-10-04 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
 Let's say you wanted to split your /22 into two /21s.

I can make two /21s out of a single /22?  Sweet jesus, you've solved the IP 
exhaustion crisis!  :-)

Nathan


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