Pasting into others messages (IRC)
Hi! Pidgin 2.7.0 on WinXP A really bizzare bug: In an IRC converation (channel) click a link someone posted, then press ctrl-v (the clipboard has another URL, copied from Firefox). Expected result: cliboard content is pasted into the typing area Actual result: clipboard content is pasted into the other persons message in the top part of screen illustration: joe said : hey, look at http://some.server.com/what/ever ... it is cool I have in clipboard : www.google.com I click on joe link in pidgin chat window. (the link is opened in my system default browser, which is Firefox). Still in Pidgin, I press the keys ctrl-V. joes message changes to: hey, look at http://some.serwww.google.comver.com/what/ever ... it is cool I can reproduce it: - copy some url (into clipboard) - clink a link in IRC chat - after it opens in firefox, use alt-tab to get back to pidgin - press ctrl-v The text is inserted at the point where I clicked thelink url. The clipboard content can be also regular text. Regards, David Balažic Software Engineer HERMES SoftLab a ComTrade company Litijska 51, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia fax +386 (0)1 58 65 270 www.hermes-softlab.com www.comtradegroup.com ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: key combinations (Euro symbol and others)
ndls...@inwind.it wrote: Hi, i'm Angelo. Sorry for my bad EN Pidgin 2.7.0 on Winzozz XP SP3 but the problem is old...(for me) by system version and by pidgin version: i've start with 2.5.4 on Xp without sp... I've read the support archive but without find solutions (I hope I've searched well, or are not able to find it) I use pidgin for job more than for play, and often i need write other characters over the alfabetical ones the prob: how i can use the key combination on my keyboard to input in one string the desired character? often i need to use the Euro symbol € or the symbol @, the Diesis symbol # and the square brackets [ ] So far, i've copied and pasted from the block note every time i've needed to write one of this. There is other way to input this symbols in my dscussions or i must continue with this workaround? thanks for the time spent on read this mex Hi! I have Windows XP Professional SP3 and use Pidgin for a long time. I could and can type all the characters on my keyboard in Pidgin the same way as in any other program. Including Euro etc... What keyboard layout do you use? What are the other regional settings in Windows? (Control Panel / Regional and Language options) Values that could matter: - Standards and formats (on first tab) - Location - Languages tab / Details : Input language and keyboard layout (both) In what part of Pidgin do you have the problem? Chat? What protocol? Regards, David Balažic ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
http://pidgin.im down
Hi! The main website is inaccessible. Confirmed by downforeveryoneorjustme.com David Balažic Software Engineer HERMES SoftLab a ComTrade company Litijska 51, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia fax +386 (0)1 58 65 270 www.hermes-softlab.com www.comtradegroup.com ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: A question regarding voice calls
Dayron, take care to send your mails to the mail list! Below is your mail, this time on the list: -Original Message- From: Dayron Armas Peña [mailto:ar...@ict.upr.edu.cu] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:55 PM To: David Balazic Subject: Re: A question regarding voice calls Importance: High Thanks to David and Daniel. I found that also in some readings after I wrote to the list. Indeed I went to Help-Build Information and under Library Support it says this uggly words: Voice and Video: Disabled I guess this is not the right place to ask this, but anyway, does anyone knows about any XMMP client that will serve for my purpose? (to make voice calls to another gtalk user, but being me behind a squid http proxy, and using Windows XP) Thanks again and excuse me for infecting the thread with the off topic. -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Dayron Armas Peña Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:30 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: A question regarding voice calls Importance: High Hello. I downloaded and installed Pidgin 2.7.0 on my Windows XP SP3 computer. I did this because I read in some place I can't remember that this version supports voice calls. Is this true? I ask because after installing and ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
People don't read the mail list
... obviously (judging by the latest posts). Neither do they check the archives. So how about serving them the relevant information instead? Currently it seems to be: - flash issue on Windows - theme changing - maybe one or two more I forgot This could be put on one (or more) of the following places: - home page (it already has a similar purpose line or two, currently saying: Pidgin 2.7.0 is out with fixes for AIM, ICQ, and Yahoo! JAPAN login and a bunch of new features! ) - About window of pidgin, before the mail list address, somewhere around Helpful Resources - same as above, but just a button or link , titled like (Current) Known issues (- read this first) linking to a page listing the few most common problems with the current version (or the version the user is actually running, even if just suggesting an upgrade to latest) This could also be a menu item in the Help menu. Displayed as: - regular web page, using the system browser or maybe: - displayed inline in the about dialog or a special Known issues dialog Hopefully this would reduce the amount of repeat questions ont the list. Regards, David Balažic Software Engineer HERMES SoftLab a ComTrade company Litijska 51, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia fax +386 (0)1 58 65 270 www.hermes-softlab.com www.comtradegroup.com ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: People don't read the mail list
Etan Reisner: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:26:30AM +0200, David Balazic wrote: snip This could be put on one (or more) of the following places: - home page (it already has a similar purpose line or two, currently saying: Pidgin 2.7.0 is out with fixes for AIM, ICQ, and Yahoo! JAPAN login and a bunch of new features! ) People don't read the home page before asking most of the time. - About window of pidgin, before the mail list address, somewhere around Helpful Resources How do you propose we put the issues for a given release in the About dialog for that release? Time travel? =) The same way we put them in their browser window: by loading it over internet. Regards, David Balažic ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: People don't read the mail list
Stu Tomlinson wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 11:26 +0200, David Balazic wrote: ... obviously (judging by the latest posts). Neither do they check the archives. So how about serving them the relevant information instead? Currently it seems to be: - flash issue on Windows - theme changing - maybe one or two more I forgot I don't have much hope for this working, given that you didn't mention the possibility of listing these on the Common issues section we already have, but I added some here : http://pidgin.im/support/ Yes, that's great. But that is half of the solution. The other half is getting people to notice it (reminds me of the road plans in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy...) I checked: - Pidgin main page [1] - no mention of known issues - Pidgin dowlonad page [2] - no mention of known issues - Pidgin menu Help / Online Help F1 [3] - no mention of known issues - Pidgin menu Help / About - no mention of known issues - Pidgin menu Help / About ... FAQ link [4] - no mention of known issues So how is a Otto Normaluser supposed to find it? It is only present on the page http://pidgin.im/support/. And googling pidgin known issues does not even list it in the first page of results. Regards, David [1] - http://pidgin.im/ [2] - http://pidgin.im/download/ [3] - http://pidgin.im/documentation [4] - http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FAQ ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Stop these emails
Evan Platt wrote: Like the last 3 or 4 people today that have asked to unsubscribe: This is a mailing list. You joined it by either going to a website, or sending a subscribe e-mail. To unsubscribe, you need to: Look at the bottom of every email: Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Just for info, not every mail received from the list has those lines at the bottom. After a very quick look, it seems this is the case with first messages in a thread (as opposed to replies). Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Stop these emails
Brian Morrison wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 13:32:38 +0200 David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Just for info, not every mail received from the list has those lines at the bottom. After a very quick look, it seems this is the case with first messages in a thread (as opposed to replies). Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support This is a reply to your reply, as you can see, the unsub info is there below your text Yes it is. It is there on replies. It is missing on about 80% of non-replies (checked last 10 non-replies). David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Win32 downloads for 2.7.0
Hi all, The problem with the win32 installer that everyone's reporting is that I didn't realize there was other stuff that needed to be put in place to make the normal online installer work. As a temporary fix, I have changed our download page to point to the offline installer, which includes GTK+. If you previously downloaded an installer and are experiencing issues, try downloading the offline installer. For next time I suggest the latest revolutionary technique, called testing ;) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Win32 downloads for 2.7.0
John Bailey wrote: The problem with the win32 installer that everyone's reporting is that I didn't realize there was other stuff that needed to be put in place to make the normal online installer work. As a temporary fix, I have changed our download page to point to the offline installer, which includes GTK+. If you previously downloaded an installer and are experiencing issues, try downloading the offline installer. I just tried to download and get the same issue. The URLs I followed were: http://pidgin.im/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin/files/Pidgin/pidgin-2.7.0.exe http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/pidgin/Pidgin/2.7.0/pidgin-2.7 .0.exe I got a 8.7 MB big file. During installation I get this: --- Pidgin 2.7.0 Setup --- Error Downloading the GTK+ Runtime : http://pidgin.im/win32/download_redir.php?version=2.7.0gtk_version=2.16 .6.0dl_pkg=gtk --- Retry Cancel --- Another thing: After this error the install continues, giving an unusable Pidgin installation. Wouldn't it be better to abort the installation if GTK can not be downloaded? And last: waht is the URL of the working setup? Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Working Windows 2.7.0 download
- Go to pidgin.im - click DOWNLOAD at the top of the page menu. - click Windows in the left menu - click the Download Pidgin - 2.7.0 for Windows link in the centre of the page That URL is http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin/files/Pidgin/pidgin-2.7.0-offline.exe you can click it here in the mail too (generally you should not click links in email messages you get from strrangers ;-) ). David Balažic Software Engineer HERMES SoftLab a ComTrade company Litijska 51, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia fax +386 (0)1 58 65 270 www.hermes-softlab.com www.comtradegroup.com ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: installing 2.7.0 pidgin under win32
Daniel Atallah : On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 02:20, hy...@hyena.pri.ee wrote: Hi! My old Pidgin suggested me to download and install Pidgin 2.7.0. When I did that, installation kept failing because Error downloading the GTK+ Runtime: http://pidgin.im/wim32/download_redir.php?version=2.7.0gtk_ve rsion=2.16.6.0dl_pkg=gtk. Erich The files for the online installer haven't been fully uploaded yet; you'll need to use the offline installer (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin/files/Pidgin/2.7.0/pid gin-2.7.0-offline.exe/download) until those are up. The front page (http://pidgin.im) stils links to http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin/files/Pidgin/pidgin-2.7.0.exe (in case you visit the page using Windows) Same on Download page (http://pidgin.im/download/). Maybe a note would be in order. Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Win32 downloads for 2.7.0
Ethan Blanton wrote: David Balazic spake unto us the following wisdom: For next time I suggest the latest revolutionary technique, called testing ;) This comment is not helpful. Clearly we would like to test everything, but in some cases it is not possible. Most Pidgin developers do not have access to Windows, or don't have access to Windows on personal machines. Well, then you could have sent an email, before doing the release: Hi! At http://some.server/pidgin-2.7.0-rc.exe you can get the release candidate for Pidgin 2.7.0-win32. If anyone has time, please test it. Profit! ;) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: password recovery-saved on pidgin
Dave Warren wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010 17:50:32 +0100, Brian Morrison b...@fenrir.org.uk was claimed to have wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010 12:27:10 -0400 kyle brown kyleb36...@hotmail.com wrote: So I'm an idiot and don't remember my password, yet it's saved in pidgin on my computer. I read somewhere that these passwords are saved in the open in the program files. I couldn't seem to find it. I'm running windows 7, any help? Thanks. It will be in your user directory under .purple, I'm not sure where that is exactly on W7 though. The actual file you need is accounts.xml. %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\.purple\accounts.xml %APPDATA%\.purple\ might work too, and is shorter. (just type it in the location field of explorer or open dialog of notepad) (works 100% on XP) David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
URL in IRC chat cut
Hi! Using Pidgin 2.6.6 on WinXP , whil in an IRC channel, somebody poste along URL. Pidgin displayed it, but it recognised only part of it (from the beginning to somewhere in have). So the URL was displaye entirely, but the clickable part was just a part of it. Simplified example: http://foo.bar.com/apple/orange/banana Pidgin underscored only the part http://foo.bar.com/apple/or whil ange/banana was regular text. After clicking, only the partial URL was provided to the web browser. The actual URL that was used is: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs469.ash1/25762_386299217567_713332567_4101869_4001374_n.jpg It was underlined to the part before 7_4101869_4001374_n.jpg. Regards, David Balažic Software Engineer HERMES SoftLab a ComTrade company Litijska 51, 1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia fax +386 (0)1 58 65 270 www.hermes-softlab.com www.comtradegroup.com ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Time Stamps?
Programmer In Training wrote: On 04/01/10 18:13, Programmer In Training wrote: On 04/01/10 17:54, Ethan Blanton wrote: Programmer In Training spake unto us the following wisdom: What's up with the loss of time stamps? I used those to see how long I've been away from a conversation. Press F2. :-P Ethan Didn't work when I did it in the message window and in the buddy list window it proceeds to allow me to rename a buddy or group. Haha, I found, in the Options menu for the message window, the timestamp option. Not sure where it disappeared to. I would swear it wasn't there when I sent that last message. Neither F2 or or the menu option works for me. I'm in a IRC chat/channel. Maybe it is some interference with the 24H format plugin, which I use? v2.6.6 on Windows XP Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Is there something wrong with pidign 2.6.6 (the download is 0 size)
For me it worked. Some SF mirrors take time until they have the latest versions. -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Evan Platt Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:09 PM To: Pento Robert-QA4508 Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with pidign 2.6.6 (the download is 0 size) Looks like there's nothing to download, downloads.sourceforge.net server is refusing connections? #wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/pidgin/Pidgin/2.6.6/ pidgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1 --11:07:39-- http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/pidgin/Pidgin/2.6.6/p idgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1 = `pidgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1' Resolving downloads.sourceforge.net... 216.34.181.59 Connecting to downloads.sourceforge.net|216.34.181.59|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers. Retrying. --11:07:40-- http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/pidgin/Pidgin/2.6.6/p idgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1 (try: 2) = `pidgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1' Connecting to downloads.sourceforge.net|216.34.181.59|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers. Retrying. --11:07:40-- http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/pidgin/Pidgin/2.6.6/p idgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1 (try: 3) = `pidgin-2.6.6.exe?use_mirror=cdnetworks-us-1' Connecting to downloads.sourceforge.net|216.34.181.59|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers. Retrying. On 2/22/2010 11:04 AM, Pento Robert-QA4508 wrote: *Rob Pento* ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: so slow
If you start Pidgin, then exit and start it again (like in 10 seconds or less), how long dow it take? On my system, the first start is 10-20 seconds (depends, I did not make an accurate measurement), but the second is instantenous (1 second or less). On first start the GTK libs have to be loaded from the disk and they are quite large. (and on the second try they are cached or even already loaded) Also the auto-connect that others mentioned should nt make a difference. The Buddy List window appears first and only then it starts connecting. Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Mestl, Robert R Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:52 PM To: Daniel Atallah Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: so slow Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx - Pidgin Debug Log For Mon 01/04/2010 14:43:38.55 - Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\GTK\2.0 Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. GTK+ path found: C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\bin Using SetDllDirectory Setting locale: LANG=en Looking for Perl... Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\Perl Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. not found. Looking for MIT Kerberos... Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\MIT\Kerberos Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. not found. (14:43:57) wpurple: shfolder.dll not already loaded; loading it... (14:43:58) wpurple: This version of shfolder.dll contains SHGetFolderPathW (14:43:58) wpurple: Purple settings dir: C:\Documents and Settings\ISDRRM\Application Data (14:43:58) winpidgin: winpidgin_init start (14:43:58) wpurple: Could not open reg key 'HKLM' subkey 'Software\Aspell'. Message: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. (14:43:58) wspell: Couldn't find path for Aspell (14:43:58) winpidgin: GTK+ :2.14.7 (14:43:58) wpurple: This version of user32.dll contains FlashWindowEx (14:43:58) winpidgin: winpidgin_init end (14:43:58) wpurple: wpurple_init start (14:43:58) wpurple: libpurple version: 2.6.4 (14:43:58) wpurple: Glib:2.18.4 (14:43:58) wpurple: wpurple_init end Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: Mestl, Robert R Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:24 PM To: 'Daniel Atallah' Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: so slow I guess I should note that this latency seems to only be after I first boot up my laptop... Right now it seems to start up fairly quickly after Quiting. I will see if I can troubleshoot the debug logging myself... Thx! Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: daniel.atal...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atal...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:14 PM To: Mestl, Robert R Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 15:05, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Attached is a screenshot of My Computer properties... I have no control over the SP updates, as it is a corporate controlled computer... That 15-20 sec wait is killer! I'm not sure why this is a big deal; ideally you're not restarting Pidgin all the time.
RE: mails with no Subject: line
[mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Jesse Palser Hi, I think emails with no subject should be automatically banned from the mailing list. I also think that the mailing list should have [Pidgin] prefix in the subject line. (like all other mailing lists I subscribe to) Half of the lists I subscribe to* don't have this. The other half does. It seems technical (for developers etc) lists do not have it, while more layman type of lists have it. But there are also exceptions. * about 20 mail lists About HTML and other bans: This is usually not a choice of the user. Punishing them for other peoples sins is not necessarily a good thing. Automatically stripping HTML tags on the other hand might work. Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Custom MSN smiley causes refresh problem
Ka-Hing Cheung Subject: Re: Own typing indication On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:59:34AM +0200, David Balazic wrote: I believe there was/is a gtk/pidgin bug such that when there are animated smileys in the window, some text are not displayed immediately. If this happens again, can you check if there are smileys in the window? Also try to refresh the window (say, minimize and then restore the window) and see if it helps. Hi! It happened again. I'm using 2.4.1 now. There was one animated image in the conversation window. Details: I asked the other party (one message from me). He answered with text + animated image. I typed another text message. Only after 10 seconds did my message appear in the conversation. Right after that the answer form the other guy came, this time just an animated icon. (I guess some people love animations... ;-) Have you tried what I suggested, that is, forcing the window to refresh? Yes. I minimized and restored it. I also covered it with another windows and the uncovered it. In both cases the messages were visible after that. And the problem is still there in v2.6.3 (WinXP, MSN). Is there a ticket open for this? Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Taskbar Flashing
Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Kelly Brownsberger Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Taskbar Flashing
Aha. Which window is flashin? If it is the buddy list, then you can just close it (make sure you have set it to minimize to systray, I think this is the default). Regards, David From: Kelly Brownsberger [mailto:kelly.brownsber...@gmail.com] Sent: 23. October 2009 16:39 To: David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Taskbar Flashing I'm running 2.6.3 By In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification you mean I can UNCHECK Message Notification. I have ZERO plugins checked. What I'm describing doesn't appear to be a notification. It's just a weird flashing that happen randomly throughout the day. I'll fire up Camtasia and take a video of it next time it happens and send it to you guys :) David Woolley explanation sounds accurate - this seems like a low level Windowing oddity more than a feature. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM, David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com wrote: Which version of Pidgin? In latest (v2.6.x) this can be set in menu Tools / Plugins : Message Notification Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Kelly Brownsberger Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:18 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Taskbar Flashing I'm running Pidgin on Windows (XP) - is there a setting/preference to instruct Pidgin to not flash in the Windows taskbar while running? I'm not really sure why it's flashing exactly, but I'm guessing it's notifying me that one or more buddies just came online. That's not really useful to me and because I'm using Pidgin to consolidate four different IM networks together, my buddy list is quite large. So, Pidgin is pretty much flashing constantly all day. Pidgin is definitely a keeper if I can figure out how to make it stop flashing, but nothing is jumping out at me from scanning the menu options Any tips would be appreciated Thanks -kelly ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Version 2.6.3 is out (Was: how to track new releases?)
Le'mme do it: Pidgin version 2.6.3 is out. The Windows build is not available yet. (maybe that's why there was no official announce?) Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Christoph A. Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:22 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: how to track new releases? On 21.08.2009 17:23, Ethan Blanton wrote: Christoph A. spake unto us the following wisdom: Today I saw that the mentioned feed, contains also forum posts and other things (not just released files) so I won't use it. What about creating an announcement list that gets automatically fed when a new release is published? We used to have one of those on SourceForge. I think the deal is that with the most recent updates, they've either done away with it or we cannot figure out how to use it. Perhaps we could create an annou...@pidgin.im. Is this idea still alive? 2.6.3 was released and still no annou...@.. kind regards, Christoph ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Pidgin in english
Matthias Apitz wrote: g...@current:~ LANG=de_DE.ISO8859-1 pidgin does not bring up Pidgin in German, stays in English; why? Did you check if pidgin is not already running (in English) and that command just made it show its window, instead of starting it (in German). Just a wild guess ;-) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Multiparty Chat
You can use Pidgin and any of the protocols that support multi user chat: - MSN - Jabber(XMPP/gtalk) - IRC (oldie but goldie) (the others require registering a username with password, IRC doesn't) - others I don't know in detail Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Mike Phillips Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:58 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Multiparty Chat I subscribed to this list to learn more about Pidgin so that I could ask intelligent questions, but most of the discussions are about topics that far exceed my understanding of Pidgin's capabilities. Currently, a number of people in my group chat on a BBS using the site's internal flash client. Not only does the board require a monthly or annual subscription that is too expensive, but also the moderators are getting extremely restrictive in what can be chatted. Therefore, I want to set up a chat room that requires a login to access (membership required, but not paid membership.) Some people would want to use a web interface, but I would want to use Pidgin, as some others probably would. Can you recommend a service to host the chat? Is there software that I can install on my cPanel-hosted shared server account? Pidgin is my current IM client for AOL and Yahoo, but it is amazing to see how much more it can do. Thanks! ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: kbd shortcut to reset font in MSN chat not working
David Balazic wrote: Pidgin 2.6.2 on Windows XP Pro SP3 In a MSN chat there is a slight issue with keyboard shortcuts for formatting. Pressing alt-f and then for example alt-r does not work. One most release alt and press 'r' without it. This is different than in other programs. Is this on purpose? In shot: yeah, that should be short - does not work: alt-f alt-r - does work: alt-f r I checked on Ubuntu (9.04, pidgin 2.5.8 or so) nad there it is the same. It seems to be a GTK+ behavior... (translation: nothing pidgin can do about) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
kbd shortcut to reset font in MSN chat not working
Pidgin 2.6.2 on Windows XP Pro SP3 In a MSN chat there is a slight issue with keyboard shortcuts for formatting. Pressing alt-f and then for example alt-r does not work. One most release alt and press 'r' without it. This is different than in other programs. Is this on purpose? In shot: - does not work: alt-f alt-r - does work: alt-f r Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8861 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: how to track new releases?
Christoph A. wrote: What is the current status of this? 2.6.2 was released but there is no annou...@pidgin.im I guess the only remaining solution is to post on this list by whoever notices first that a new release is available ;) Far from hackerly perfect, but it works... Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: [META] Public mailing list nature of supp...@pidgin
Evan Platt wrote: But the main problem is a lot of people don't read. MXIT Problems? DO NOT POST THEM TO THIS LIST. CLICK HERE. I found this message because I was looking for it, after you mentioned it. Otherwise I would never notice. That page has like 100 lines of text. Also, about the About: - the mail list link says only Help, not Help in english. _Assuming_ the translated version is the same, why would a french user of french Pidgin think that french is not a desired language on that list? Some developer like tu use the excuse I/the computer/the program can't read minds. Well here's a newsflash: Users can't either ;-) - the about dialog text starts (besides the verion number) with some dull, license-like text. In years of usage I never scrolled down to see the bottom. Useful info should not be preceded by legal bla bla (read: stuff unimportant to 99,999% of living beings) Hoping this will cause an improvement and not a flame war.. ;-) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Reset my Pidgin Password
Mark Doliner wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Tandon, Nitinnitin.tan...@colt.net wrote: Hi Support desk, I have forget my Pidgin login password. Request you to pls. reset it ASAP. Pidgin Username: nitin.tan...@jabber.colt.net Thanks in advance, Nitin Tandon Hi Nitin, Pidgin is a free Instant Messaging program that is compatible with many IM networks. We are in no way affiliated with colt.net. You will need to contact the administrators of colt.net for help. Maybe a protocol specific button/menu/tooltip/hint for I forgot password situations should be added to Pidgin, to avoid such questions on the list and make the worlkd a better place ? ;-) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: [Pidgin] for list owner
As this is requested repeatedly, why not add it as an subscriber option ? Those subscribers that wan't it, can turn it on, and those who don't, can turn it off. This way everyone is satisfied. Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Steve VanSlyck Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:30 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: [Pidgin] for list owner Hey guys, As a spamcop user the subject line is the first think I look at in assessing whether a message is spam. It would be a tremendous help if the list would append something like [Pidgin] to the front of the subject line for a message if it isn't already there. Many lists do this. Otherwise, messages with subject lines like Can U help me can easily get reported as spam, with unintended potential consequences for the sender. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
[RFE] Confirm chat close if user input is present
Hi! I use Pidgin 2.5.8 on Windows. It happened several times already that I was typing some text in a chat (it was on IRC) and the pressed ctrl-W, either by accident or because that is the delete last word shortcut in some environments. Pidgin of course understands it as close current chat tab. This is very frustrating as: - one loses the typed text (imagine having several lines of it...) - one also loses the chat content (even if logging is turned on, the chat window does not reload it*) So can anything be done against that ? It is normal for programs to ask Are you sure? if unsaved data is aboput to be lost. Regards, David * - another RFE case ? - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8937 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Simpler update (Windows)
daniel.atal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/7 David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com: Can you please make a simpler update procedure for us poor Windows users ? For example the first page of the install wizard could have this part if Pidgin is already installed: Detected already instaled Pidgim version x.y.z. Click the Update button to update to version u.w.v without being asked X questions that you already answered N times. [ Update ] You're talking about 1 additional click (to confirm the selected items - which are defaulted from the last installation), right? If not, which questions are you talking about? 1.) click next (Welcome...) 2.) agree to license 3.) components selection 4.) Destination folder selection 5.) Confirming the completion 6.) Confirming finishation (with the option to run) I suggest the following for an update scenario: 1.) click Update (option to start Pidgin after install) (2.) Optionally click OK on a message after installation is finished) So I am talking about 5 additional clicks. Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: RFE: Option to switch graphical smiley off in conversation window
-Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Sadrul Habib Chowdhury Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:14 AM To: David Balazic Cc: Pidgin Support List Subject: Re: RFE: Option to switch graphical smiley off in conversation window * David Balazic had this to say on [07 Jul 2009, 18:14:45 +0200]: Hi! I kindly request a feature (best done as a menu item under Options in the chat windows) to turn off smileys. Rationale: sometimes strings that matches smiley appear in text, but not used as smiley. For example if someone pastes some XML, it can contain the string xmlns:ds= The :d part is recognized as a smiley, so the text is renedered like xmlns(:D)s=... and as that more or less unreadable. Changing the smiley theme in Preferences to none does not help, as it does not affect existing chat text. We don't quite have this feature [yet]. However, you can select a portion of text in the conversation window and select 'Disable smileys in selected text' option from the right-click menu. Great! I did not know this feature. It solves my problem 99,999% ;-) Regards, David ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Simpler update (Windows)
Hi! Can you please make a simpler update procedure for us poor Windows users ? For example the first page of the install wizard could have this part if Pidgin is already installed: Detected already instaled Pidgim version x.y.z. Click the Update button to update to version u.w.v without being asked X questions that you already answered N times. [ Update ] Thanks ! ;-) Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8937 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Version 2.5.7 released ...
Hi! Can we please have new release announcements on the list ? Or are they already sent out on some different list ? Currently, I get informed about new releases when someone mentions it on the list, like in the Pidgin 2.5.7 crashes when started thread now. Including the changelog in the mail body would be nice too. Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8937 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support You can unsubscribe from the list's website above.
RE: stop messages
They are not at the bottom of _every_ message ;) Besides the words listinfo, support etc do not suggest to everyone here you can stop these messages. Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of John Moore 3rd Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:38 PM To: balyoa Cc: Pidgin Support List Subject: Re: stop messages balyoa wrote: Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Notice these links at the bottom of _every_ Message. Simply click on the bottom one and Un-Subscribe Yourself. :) JOHN ;) Timestamp: Friday 19 Jun 2009, 10:38 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Pulseaudio and volume control
From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of dan Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:21 AM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Pulseaudio and volume control Greetings. I'm using pidgin-2.5.6 and pulseaudio-0.9.15 and I'm having difficulty setting the volume of pidgin notification sounds. I use pavucontrol to set the playback levels for various apps / streams / whatever. The trouble is that pidgin's sounds are too short for me to be able to grab onto the volume slider in pavucontrol. Pavucontrol only displays a volume slider when a sound is being played, so pidgin appears for a very short period of time, then disappears again. After some searching around, I found a post along the same lines in the pulseaudio mailing list, where the response was that pidgin should use libcanberra for notification sounds, which would result in pidgin sounds going through the 'System Sounds' stream / whatever. 'System Sounds' are *always* visible in pavucontrol. I'm not 100% convinced with this answer however. Personally I would prefer to see pavucontrol display levels for apps even while they're not playing ( perhaps in another page ). Did you suggest this to the pavucontrol authros ? Are there any known solutions? Are there any plans to use libcanberra as per the suggestion mentioned above? Is there any dialog between pidgin pulseaudio communities on this issue? Thanks :) Dan ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: boring emoticon
Ethan Blanton wrote: manulo...@hotmail.com spake unto us the following wisdom: is it possible to hide received emoticons ? Some of people have to much emoticons in place of some word and it's impossible to understand what the say. Open up the account settings for your MSN account from the Tools | Accounts dialog, click on 'Advanced', and uncheck 'Show custom smilies'. Can this be done per chat ? (or even per chat line ?) Otherwise you have to chosse between: - you can see text, but can't see images (jokes etc...) - you see images all over, and miss text (as in original post) Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Pidgin IM formatting
That is a limitation of the MSN protocol. For example , it is the same if you use the MS Messenger. Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Tom Laughton Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:38 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Pidgin IM formatting Hi, How do you set it up so you can format only one word in a single message, rather than the whole message? As in, having just one word in italics, or one word in bold, and the rest in standard format. I can't figure out how to do it, and can't find it explained anywhere. Thanks Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. Download Now http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Regarding codes used for Pidgin
Kevin Stange wrote: You shouldn't be trying to send commands with /say as /say is explicitly designed to bypass the command system. I'm not. I'm sending text with /say but Pidgin (and Trillian, as you said) (mis)interprets it. Not a big issue, I'm just a perfectionist ;-) Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Regarding codes used for Pidgin
Ethan Blanton wrote David Balazic spake unto us the following wisdom: - /say /me foo is not sent to channel, but interpreted as a regular /me foo command Not exactly. Pidgin interprets any incoming message of the form /me foo as an emote. You're actually sending /me foo to the channel, your Pidgin is simply displaying it the same as it would a CTCP ACTION. Why would it do that ? Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Regarding codes used for Pidgin
Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote : 2009/5/25 David Balazic david.bala...@hermes-softlab.com: Ethan Blanton wrote David Balazic spake unto us the following wisdom: - /say /me foo is not sent to channel, but interpreted as a regular /me foo command Not exactly. Pidgin interprets any incoming message of the form /me foo as an emote. You're actually sending /me foo to the channel, your Pidgin is simply displaying it the same as it would a CTCP ACTION. Why would it do that ? Regards, David This sounds strange. There will never be any incoming commands in the form /me description. /me is simply a CTCP ACTION message, which is a PRIVMSG message. So, if I would send a /me to a channel, then everyone in the channel -- except me, the sender -- would receive :mynick!myu...@myhost PRIVMSG #ourChannel :ascii 1ACTION some descriptionascii 1 If I used /say /me foo, then the channel should receive: :mynick!myu...@myhost PRIVMSG #outChannel :/me foo It seems Pidgin takes this and displays it as if it were a CTCP ACTION, intead as a regular text. Even if someome with a different client would send it. So if some sends ...PRIVMSG #outChannel :/me foo, all people would see someone /me foo While Pidgin users would see***someone foo. This is IMO a bug. Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: retrieving chat logs
Hi! The logs are in the folder C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\.purple\logs Of course only if you had logging enabled. Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Hannah Steiner Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:53 AM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: retrieving chat logs My computer recently died and I failed to include the folder where all the chat logs were stored (because I didn't know where it was, the folder that I thought had them turned out to be empty). Is there anyway I can get these chat logs back? Are they stored online anywhere? Thanks, Hannah ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: IRC improvements (was: Group windows by account type)
Hi! Just a few notes from me about IRC: - /help lists the me command twice ;-) - I miss the xxx set the topic on x.y. to xyz line when joining the channel. Must other IRC lcients show it. Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Ethan Blanton Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:22 AM To: Jo-Erlend Schinstad Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: IRC improvements (was: Group windows by account type) There were several things you liked; I'm glad to hear that, but there's not much to do there. ;-) These are the things you didn't like, or wanted to see different. Jo-Erlend Schinstad spake unto us the following wisdom: There are some things that has to be changed or fixed in order for Pidgin to be a good IRC client though. For one thing, notices _must not_ be opened in their own windows. Notices are not usually very important and the default behaviour in all other clients, is to not open them in new windows. Also, there is a side effect; all ctcp replies are notices and therefore also open their own windows. This must be changed. Actually for IRC account types, numeric messages and notices should be sent to one dedicated window, and I think this window should have the same name as the account in question. I agree that the notice behavior is very annoying. This standard server window solution was previously not reasonably possible due to limitations in the libpurple API. Now that we have persistent conversations, though, there might be a reasonable solution to this, without writing a bunch of support just for IRC. Someone should look into that. Please create an enhancement ticket on the bug tracker (http://d.pidgin.im/) for this. Speaking of windows. It should be made possible to group windows based on account _types_ and not only by accounts or groups. This way, I could have all my IRC channels, which are on several different networks, grouped together in a window. I realise that I can accomplish this by grouping the IRC channels together and open new conversations in windows based on groups. However, this makes it difficult to see which networks the different channels are on, making it easy to /join #channel on the WrongNet. That, of course, could be worked around by giving all channels an alias, like #ubu...@freenode. But this feels awkward and requires quite a bit of configuration. In any case, being able to group windows based on the account type is a usable feature. I hope this will be implemented. This is trivial to do, and a plugin could be written to do it in a few minutes. In fact, I think there's already an extended conversation placement plugin floating around someplace, which may even do this. Does anyone know? We're not likely to add this as a default placement option, as one of the goals of Pidgin is to *hide* protocol and account differences, not glorify them. I don't see any harm in including an extended conversation placement plugin in the distribution, though. And of course, we need to have a way to see and set channel modes, kick, ban, op and voice users, set topic, etc. Pidgin does have this for XMPP Rooms, doesn't it? /commands work normally in Pidgin IRC. You can use /mode for bans, op, and voice, as well as /op and /voice for the latter, there is a /kick command, etc. See /help in any IRC window for more information. The topic can be set by clicking on the room topic, or with /topic, either one. There are not as many right-click menu options on the channel user list as people would like, and I intend to add a pile of those, but I haven't gotten to it. See ticket #264 on the tracker. I think these changes should be fairly easy to implement, but they would make Pidgin a really suitable IRC client for a lot of people. You're right, most of them wouldn't take very long. (The server messages window might.) This would be a great place for a new developer to sink their teeth into Pidgin. ;-) Ethan -- The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy for evils]. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria, On Crimes and Punishments, 1764 ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Daylight Savings Time bug
Off topic, but: the guy who invented DST should be shot. Sorry again for off topic, but I had to say it. Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Ron Mora Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:25 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Daylight Savings Time bug Hello. After the DST change this past 3/8/09, my IM sessions still show an hour behind. My PC clock shows the correct time and I've already rebooted my PC after the clock change. Is there a patch or fix for this or am I missing a simple config switch? I appreciate your help. Thank you, Ron Mora ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
FW: Pidgin and Skype protocol
I forgot to CC the list -Original Message- From: David Balazic Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:04 PM To: 'Matej Cepl' Subject: RE: Pidgin and Skype protocol Hi! There are several program implementing Skype protocol right now. (so there is no need to wait for some action from Skype Inc.) (of course a full doc release would not hurt) BR, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Matej Cepl Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:57 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Pidgin and Skype protocol On 2009-03-03, 09:48 GMT, Emil Sekula wrote: Do you plan to add Skype protocol to Pidgin ? I am quite certain that in the moment Skype will release specification of their protocol, somebody will make a plugin for pidgin ;-). Matěj ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Linux live CD with Pidgin?
Richard Laager wrote: For the developers: I'd like to make the download link at pidgin.im go to the PPA for people with Ubuntu in their user-agent string. How do you feel about this, as opposed to serving them a tarball? If you do this, please still list all downloads in an easily found list. There is nothing I hate more, when I use a Windows based computer to download linux software, I mean I _try_ to use it, but the smart websites detects the Windows OS and offers only the Windows version. Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Linux live CD with Pidgin?
I believe Ubuntu has Pidgin. David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im on behalf of Fred Sent: Sat 14-Feb-09 10:05 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Linux live CD with Pidgin? Hello Does someone know of a good live CD Linux distro that offers Pidgin instead of Kopete? Thank you Fred. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: a bug
http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords - the passwords are not sent anywhere in plain text - a master password like in Firefox might make sense. For some users. Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Evan Platt Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: a bug I don't see a bug. I see a 'patch' to encrypt the passwords stored in accounts.xml. This has been discussed many, many, times here, and to sum up what the developers have stated (please, correct me if I'm wrong), is the passwords are sent in clear text, and there's no intention to change this. Or am I misreading the page you linked to and not seeing the 'bug'? At 06:48 PM 1/28/2009, you wrote: please see this link and fix bug http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-master-password-expose-for- pidgin.html ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: msn spam im problem
He is probaly getting these messages from buddies who are either infected with malware or gave their password to mal-people... Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Janine Starykowicz Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:58 AM To: Nikhil Shah; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: msn spam im problem There's a way to block unknown messages in MSN's client, although I haven't used their client in several years. It seems to carry through, because I've never had the problem since in either Trillian or now Pidgin. Janine Nikhil Shah wrote: Hi, I have an MSN account I'm using through pidgin. I often receive multiple spam messages from BS screennames asking me to visit a website, purchase a product or view their cam. Is there a way to limit who can message me on MSN via pidgin? I already asked MSN for support but they couldn't help me because I am on pidgin. I'm running 2.5.2 with a hotmail msn account. Thanks in advance! Sincerely, Nikhil Shah ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Digsby - http://www.digsby.com
Ben Bridts wrote: But I don't think someone should be pissed. I find it a good sign when all the other programs start to look like Pidgin. I means that the Pidgin UI is appealing to a lot of people =). Imitation is the highest form of admiration ;) ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Skype chat - again
John Bailey wrote : David Balazic wrote: Hi! There seems to be a lot of progrmas out there, that support Skype chat. Exmaples: fring, Nimbuzz .. They are mostly for mobile phones. I could not find out yet, how they do it, but meybe they can be used as a starting point ? Regards, David We will never include Skype support, so long as doing so would be a violation of the GPL license Pidgin is distributed under. Even if it weren't, we aren't going to include a protocol none of us uses or wants to maintain. What conflicts are between GPL and the Skype protocol ? You mean you use all those other protocols Pidgin suppports ? ;-) Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Skype chat - again
Hi! There seems to be a lot of progrmas out there, that support Skype chat. Exmaples: fring, Nimbuzz .. They are mostly for mobile phones. I could not find out yet, how they do it, but meybe they can be used as a starting point ? Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: pidgin-2.5.3 Crash on exit
It does not crash, it just locks up. Same happened to me. Basically the same story as with Odhiambo. When I clik EXIT, it stops responding. I am logged into an MSN account and one IRC account. Regards, David From: support-boun...@pidgin.im on behalf of Brian Morrison Sent: Thu 25-Dec-08 18:44 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: pidgin-2.5.3 Crash on exit On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:35:13 +0300 Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anything I can do under Windows to help me get how it is crashing and report that back to the dev team? There is a debug version you can download and install, when it crashes it should produce a backtrace that you can then enter into the Trac bug db. You'll need to read the readme so you know how to find the backtrace. -- Brian Morrison Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud; after a while you realize you are muddy and the pig is enjoying it. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
SSL Certificate Verification dialog ?
Hi! Today I got this dialog after starting pidgin: SSL Certificate Verification Accept certificate for rsi.hotmail.com? The root certificate this one claims to be issued by is unknown to Pidgin. I never saw this until now. What does it mean ? Why did it appear ? I use 2.5.2 on WinXP SP3. I have a MSN account and one IRC account. Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: multiple instances of pidgin / Windows - easier method?
Control Panel / System Properties / Advanced / Environment Variables From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Lane Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:13 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: multiple instances of pidgin / Windows - easier method? I'm running pidgin in windows, I typically use it and just leave it on for hours. But a friend has been staying with and wants to use pidgin instead of some sort of other prog... Problem comes up trying to get multiple working without closing mine first and/or typing the command(s) on my account and his (and that seems only way to do this). I even tried making a batch file and add to group policy to start when user logs in but that still hasn't worked. Command I'm using is: set PIDGIN_MULTI_INST=1″ Is there another method to allow this? reg fix, startup option, etc... that's worked for someone else in past please help, no sure where to go from here Thank for time, Geoff ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: help on sounds
Daniel Atallah wrote: 2008/9/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I cannot turn off the pidgen sounds. Please help. I work in a cube area; the sounds are not well tolerated. I seem to get a steam of bongs, swishes, and ohter noises from Pidgen. In Tools, Mute Sounds is checked. In Preferences / Sounds, the only item checked on the entire page is message received and I am not receiving any messages. How do I turn off all the sounds? The way to disable sounds is with the Mute Sounds checkbox in Tools-Preferences-Sounds. That is actually menu Tools / Mute Sounds At least in 2.5.1 on WinXP. Now the bonus question: Which option controls what sounds ? Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Own typing indication
Etan Reisner wrote: On protocols that send the message back to you (which I'm assuming MSN does) displaying the message before we hear back from the server isn't really the right thing to do, imagine the case where the message triggers an error, or is silently dropped by the server (which MSN likes to do for some messages) you are then presented with a scenario where you have told the user it was sent correctly but now need to rescind that indication and present them with an error, as opposed to being able to simply not display the sent message and instead display the error. That being said, I am open to suggestions that will satisfy both parts of this. -Etan Hi! 1.) But this is what happens currently. Details: - I type a message - after I press enter, it appears in the conversation window - after a minute an error message about my message failing appears 2.) The delayed own message bug happened again. There was an animated picture sent by the party before that. Pidgin version 2.5.1 (and the bundled GTK). (protocol is MSN) Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: IRC option.
If you enter your password in the IRC account properties, then pidgin will automatically send the password to NickServ. I have use this on freenode and it works fine. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Shay Sent: Fri 19-Sep-08 23:33 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: IRC option. Hello, Would you mind adding starting message (or whatever its called in english ^^ ) option to IRC configuration? Other IRC clients (like Opera, XChat) have that option so i dont have to mannualy log into NickServ, it automatically write /ns identify password whenever i enter irc server. I think it would make many ppl happy :) ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Buddies in conversation windows sometimes not clickable ?
Hi! Normally, when one right-clicks a nickname in the conversation log, a context menu with appears with item for operations like : IM, Send File, Ignore, Info, etc. But yesterday it happened in an IRC chat, the this did not work. When I right cicked a nick, the standard menu appeared, that appears when right clicking regular chat text (Copy, Paste, Select All and such items). Is this a known problem ? I was using Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows 2003. Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Systray icon disappeared
Hi! I just noticed that the pidgin systray icon is missing. The main windows is closed. I only have a conversation window. Im running 2.5.1 on Windows XP Pro SP2. Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the main window ? Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Buddies in conversation windows sometimes not clickable ?
More details: This happens with nicks that are either: - my own or - are in a highlighted line (because they mention my nick) David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Balazic Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:44 AM To: Pidgin Support List Subject: Buddies in conversation windows sometimes not clickable ? Hi! Normally, when one right-clicks a nickname in the conversation log, a context menu with appears with item for operations like : IM, Send File, Ignore, Info, etc. But yesterday it happened in an IRC chat, the this did not work. When I right cicked a nick, the standard menu appeared, that appears when right clicking regular chat text (Copy, Paste, Select All and such items). Is this a known problem ? I was using Pidgin 2.5.1 on Windows 2003. Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Focus issues in conversation window
Lord Rayden: Good. At last one of them has understood. (Mortal Combat, 1995) ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Tomlinson Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:07 PM To: Pidgin Support List Subject: Re: Focus issues in conversation window On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:54 -0400, John Moore 3rd wrote: Tweak-UI for XP handles the 'focus stealing' issue very well. I see no real need for Pidgin [or any other Application] to override My configured Settings. It takes less than a second to click inside the Compose box and make sure You do not inadvertently Post in an IM something unexpected. :) This is all irrelevant because David was asking for the input area to get focus (and input) when typing with the conversation window already having focus but not specifically the input area, nothing to do with switching focus between *applications*. This already works in some cases (eg. normal text when focus is on the conversation scrollback). Regards, Stu. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Focus issues in conversation window
Hi! (v2.5.1 on winXP) It happened to me many times, that I was typing a message in the conversation window, but it was all lost. I had to click into the typing area so that it would accept the typing. Can it be changed so, that when one types, it automatically goes to the typing area ? (don't forget to include ctrl-v) Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Info about auto-replies
Hi! I noticed in the preferences (Status / Idle / Away / Auto-reply) an option for auto reply. But nowhere I see a way to set the auto reply. Is this some default message ? For what protocols does it work ? David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
No more screenname
Ah, I see you came to your senses and changed the string screenname to username ;-) Keep up the good work! David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Pidgin 2.5.0 Account Groups Part 2
Ka-Hing Cheung wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 08:46:39PM +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:31:45 +0200 Vladimir Kraljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has you can no longer be seen when putting the mouse over your contacts, in that dialog that shows. The Has You appears on my Win32 2.5.0 installation, but it doesn't on my Fedora 9 machine with 2.5.0. My Win32 installation doesn't create the Non-IM Contacts and Other Contacts groups, but my Fedora 9 installation does. Only happens when my MSN account is enabled. Difficult to work out what is happening. It sounds like you are one of those who downloaded a misbuilt pidgin in the first couple hours that it was released. I have Pidgin 2.5.0 on WinXP-SP2 and I do not see Has you in the tooltip for MSN buddies. I downloaded it today (2008-aug-27) at 7:44 UTC. Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
MSN connection failure
I have pidgin 2.4.3 on WinXP. This morning, it greeted me with the message, that my MSN account was disconnected and the Modify/Reconnect buttons. I clicked Reconnect, but even after an hour, it did not connect. Then I exited pidgin, restarted it and it connected immediatelly. I know this is not a lot of details, but if this happens/happened to others, maybe we can cook out something... Otherwise I used pidgin all the time and it gives no trouble. This is the first time I noticed such a problem. Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: feedback
Phil Hannent wrote: Akshat Gupta wrote: You've made it very difficult for users to give you feedback about your software. I am sorry you feel that way, could you expand on what you feel is missing or wrong? Well, obviously, there is no Give feedback button/menu anywhere in Pidgin. Or Get help/support. Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: feedback
Phil Hannent wrote: David Balazic wrote: Phil Hannent wrote: Akshat Gupta wrote: You've made it very difficult for users to give you feedback about your software. I am sorry you feel that way, could you expand on what you feel is missing or wrong? Well, obviously, there is no Give feedback button/menu anywhere in Pidgin. Or Get help/support. There is Help - Online help or Help - About which will point you to the website. While there is no Give feedback option I personally do not see the current setup as very difficult. Also in your view how would a Give feedback option work? Tell you something like Send a mail to support@pidgin.im. Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
IRC URIs not handled ?
Hi! I just installed pidgin 2.4.3 on winXP and saw the lack of IRC protocol in the selection Handle URIs (in the install wizard). Is that on purpose ? Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: What is the Issue with Pidgen?
90% of users are ... users. Not hackers with 20 years of machine langugage coding in binary experience. It is completely the same to them if settings are stored in one documented file in a standard place or scattered over fifty obfuscated places. Regards, David -Original Message- From: Kevin Stange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:43 PM To: David Balazic Cc: Richard Laager; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: What is the Issue with Pidgen? David Balazic wrote: Richard Laager wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 08:11 -0700, Ryan Battles wrote: Also, is there a removal tool to fully remove Pidgen? I tried uninstalling and re-installing however I picks up my old accounts. Uninstalling Microsoft Word shouldn't delete all your Word documents, should it? Pidgin's uninstaller behaves fine here. If you want your settings (and logs!) deleted, then do so yourself. Their location is covered in the FAQ. Putting an Also remove settings option into the unistaller would solve the problem easily. If a user wants to remove his or her settings, there's only a .purple directory to delete in the user's App Data folder. If there were settings scattered throughout the registry or different locations on the filesystem, I might see a valid argument, but in general I don't think it's wise to automatically remove settings, or anything the installer didn't create, even optionally. Kevin ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Dead keys in Pidgin
I use Pidgin 2.4.2 on Windows and dead keys work the same as in other apps. I have a Slovenian keyboard layout. Regards, David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Vijgen Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:40 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Dead keys in Pidgin Hello, Ever since I downloaded and ran pidgin I have had this problem with so called 'dead keys.' I have a US international keyboard, and with every single program I use I have no problem with dead keys except for pidgin. I usually chat in English so I will want to use words like it's, won't, isn't etc. quite often. Usually for a word like it's I just press the following keys: I - T - ' - S and the word will appear. However in Pidgin I have to press I - T - ' - space - S instead. The same goes for using emoticons like ^^ or ^_^. Usually ^^ is just that, typing the ^ key twice. In pidging I have to press ^ - space - ^ - space for it to appear properly. I have browsed the web for this problem and found that there have been plenty of people noticing the problem excists, but have not found an actual solution at all. Is there (or will there ever be) a patch or another way to solve this problem? Regards, Maxwell ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
2.4.1 crashes ?
Hi! Yesterday I updated from 2.4.0 to 2.4.1 (Windows XP) and today I found a Send error report dialog for it on the desktop. 2.4.0 did not crash for me. Is this some known regression ? Where should I look for more data ? Regards, David - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Own typing indication
Ka-Hing Cheung wrote: On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 02:34:58PM +0100, David Balazic wrote: Ka-Hing Cheung wrote: Do you have animated smiley icons in the conversation window? If some one sends them, then yes, I guess. If you mean if there were any in that case I described, the answer is: I am not sure. Probably they were. I believe there was/is a gtk/pidgin bug such that when there are animated smileys in the window, some text are not displayed immediately. If this happens again, can you check if there are smileys in the window? Also try to refresh the window (say, minimize and then restore the window) and see if it helps. Hi! It happened again. I'm using 2.4.1 now. There was one animated image in the conversation window. Details: I asked the other party (one message from me). He answered with text + animated image. I typed another text message. Only after 10 seconds did my message appear in the conversation. Right after that the answer form the other guy came, this time just an animated icon. (I guess some people love animations... ;-) Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Leave join (IRC) channels with click
Etan Reisner wrote : On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:51:00AM +0100, David Balazic wrote: About the benefit it is the same as in : - being able to close a conversation with the mouse - being able to start a chat with a buddy with the mouse That is : user convenience Regards, David What benefit do you get from being able to leave a chat room without closing the conversation window I can answer this like this: if it has no benefit, why is it already implemented in pidgin (currently only thru a typed command) ? 1.) this allows one to temporarily leave a channel (to not be bothered By new message notifications) and then rejoin later 2.) alows one to read the channel content without new messages pushing it up I agree that on channels with few traffic there is not much difference between the channel as is (joined) and parted. Also in current version it can happen that a channel tab is open, but the user is not joined. Due to absence of the features in topic, he must join by typing A command (redundantly repeating the channel name*) instead of a convenient click. * - unless /join * would work, but I doubt, since /part * does not work either; Enhancing these two commands to mean the current tabs channel when called without paramaters would be a nice half-implementation of the requested features Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Own typing indication
Etan Reisnerwrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:40:07AM +0100, David Balazic wrote: Hi! This just happened to me in a MSN conversation: - I type a message (looking at my keyboard) - I press ENTER - I look at the screen And my message was not anywhere. I thought it's the focus problem again, so I retyped the message and sent it again. Then after a few moments, both messages appeared in the conversation. The problem: after pressing ENTER to send message, it disappears From the typing area, but does not appears in the conversation area. For a few moments (that can be several seconds, I gues it depends On netwrok conditions) the message is lost, at least it appears like That for the user. Please do something about this. Either the message should appear Instantly or some special hint should be displayed, that the message Is pending or similar. Thanks. David PS: I use 2.4.0 on Windows XP. On protocols that send the message back to you (which I'm assuming MSN does) displaying the message before we hear back from the server isn't really the right thing to do, imagine the case where the message triggers an error, or is silently dropped by the server (which MSN likes to do for some messages) you are then presented with a scenario where you have told the user it was sent correctly but now need to rescind that indication and present them with an error, as opposed to being able to simply not display the sent message and instead display the error. That being said, I am open to suggestions that will satisfy both parts of this. Simple ;-) After user sends the message, display a Message pending/processing note, similar to the typing notification. When the message arrived, Remove the notification and show the real text (or the error, if any). Regards, David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Own typing indication
Hi! This just happened to me in a MSN conversation: - I type a message (looking at my keyboard) - I press ENTER - I look at the screen And my message was not anywhere. I thought it's the focus problem again, so I retyped the message and sent it again. Then after a few moments, both messages appeared in the conversation. The problem: after pressing ENTER to send message, it disappears From the typing area, but does not appears in the conversation area. For a few moments (that can be several seconds, I gues it depends On netwrok conditions) the message is lost, at least it appears like That for the user. Please do something about this. Either the message should appear Instantly or some special hint should be displayed, that the message Is pending or similar. Thanks. David PS: I use 2.4.0 on Windows XP. - http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com Innovation, not litigation ! --- David Balažic mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HERMES Softlabhttp://www.hermes-softlab.com Zagrebska cesta 104 Phone: +386 2 450 8947 SI-2000 Maribor Slovenija - Be excellent to each other. - Bill S. Preston, Esq. Ted Theodore Logan - ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: libthinice.dll false positive Trojan?
My copy is clean, at least VirtusTotal says so : http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/3495abcbf6c537848a31bf3ac01dcc2e -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomislav Grabic Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:24 AM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: AVG: libthinice.dll false positive Trojan? Hello, just wanted to report than AVG Free Edition 7.5.519 (Virus base 269.21.7) found a Trojan Generic10.BIY in G:\PortableApps\PidginPortable\App\GTK\lib\gtk-2.0\2.10.0\engi nes\libthinice.dll and deleted the file. Sounds like a false positive to me, but what do I know? ;-) regards, TG ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Password encryption
See picture. From: Peter Robev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:55 PM To: David Balazic Cc: Venkatasamy,Venkat; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption ?? Where do you see that ??? 2008/3/15 David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: File(Directory) Properties / Advanced ... / Encrypt contents to secure data From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Fri 14-Mar-08 17:54 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Password encryption We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when they choose Remember Password options in the accounts windows. Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in any organization as local administrators having access to the .purple folder. Thanks Venkat CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This communication and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by one or more legal privileges. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution of this communication is UNAUTHORIZED. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, nor anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact me and delete this communication from your computer. Thank you. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support attachment: encry.PNG___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Password encryption
It _IS_ secure. This is not some I wrote it during the weekend encryption. It is real, tried and tested encryption. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:57 PM To: Peter Robev; David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption This is not going to help to solve the issue. I belive David refers to encrypting the .purple directory. But local administrators of the computer will be able to decrypt the folder and access the password. This is not a secure workaround. i would like to hash the password so it should not be visible even to the user who stores the password. From: Peter Robev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:55 AM To: David Balazic Cc: Venkatasamy,Venkat; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption ?? Where do you see that ??? 2008/3/15 David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: File(Directory) Properties / Advanced ... / Encrypt contents to secure data From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Fri 14-Mar-08 17:54 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Password encryption We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when they choose Remember Password options in the accounts windows. Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in any organization as local administrators having access to the .purple folder. Thanks Venkat CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This communication and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by one or more legal privileges. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution of this communication is UNAUTHORIZED. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, nor anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact me and delete this communication from your computer. Thank you. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This communication and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by one or more legal privileges. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution of this communication is UNAUTHORIZED. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, nor anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact me and delete this communication from your computer. Thank you. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Password encryption
Of course. YOU can read it.. Noone else can. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:35 PM To: David Balazic; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption I tried encrypting the .purple folder and tested saving my password in the IM client. When I opened the accounts.xml I found my password uncrypted. From: David Balazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:32 AM To: Venkatasamy,Venkat; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption It _IS_ secure. This is not some I wrote it during the weekend encryption. It is real, tried and tested encryption. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:57 PM To: Peter Robev; David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption This is not going to help to solve the issue. I belive David refers to encrypting the .purple directory. But local administrators of the computer will be able to decrypt the folder and access the password. This is not a secure workaround. i would like to hash the password so it should not be visible even to the user who stores the password. From: Peter Robev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:55 AM To: David Balazic Cc: Venkatasamy,Venkat; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption ?? Where do you see that ??? 2008/3/15 David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: File(Directory) Properties / Advanced ... / Encrypt contents to secure data From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Fri 14-Mar-08 17:54 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Password encryption We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when they choose Remember Password options in the accounts windows. Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in any organization as local administrators having access to the .purple folder. Thanks Venkat CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This communication and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by one or more legal privileges. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure, copying or distribution of this communication is UNAUTHORIZED. Neither this information block, the typed name of the sender, nor anything else in this message is intended to constitute an electronic signature unless a specific statement to the contrary is included in this message. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately contact me and delete this communication from your computer. Thank you. ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This communication and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by one or more legal
RE: Password encryption
ONLY THE OWNING USER CAN DECRYPT THE FILE. NOONE ELSE CAN. Sorry for shouting, but... Just try it, for the love of god ! ;-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:52 PM To: David Balazic; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption The helpdesk support team will have local admin access in all the computers. The members will be able to access the profile folders for all users. In this case, I belive this is a not a secure solution. From: David Balazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:49 AM To: Venkatasamy,Venkat; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption Of course. YOU can read it.. Noone else can. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:35 PM To: David Balazic; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption I tried encrypting the .purple folder and tested saving my password in the IM client. When I opened the accounts.xml I found my password uncrypted. From: David Balazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:32 AM To: Venkatasamy,Venkat; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption It _IS_ secure. This is not some I wrote it during the weekend encryption. It is real, tried and tested encryption. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 12:57 PM To: Peter Robev; David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption This is not going to help to solve the issue. I belive David refers to encrypting the .purple directory. But local administrators of the computer will be able to decrypt the folder and access the password. This is not a secure workaround. i would like to hash the password so it should not be visible even to the user who stores the password. From: Peter Robev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:55 AM To: David Balazic Cc: Venkatasamy,Venkat; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption ?? Where do you see that ??? 2008/3/15 David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: File(Directory) Properties / Advanced ... / Encrypt contents to secure data From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Fri 14-Mar-08 17:54 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Password encryption We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when they choose Remember Password options in the accounts windows. Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in any organization as local administrators having access to the .purple folder. Thanks Venkat CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This communication and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by one or more legal privileges. It is intended solely for the use
RE: Password encryption
1.) I did not recommend security by obscurity, just obscurity for it's own sake 2.) security is provided by encryption (as I posted about 3 times today ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Schierer Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:51 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption David Balazic wrote: Yes, but hiding it still has a purpose. Imagine this: - you open the config file in editor (for whatever purpose) - someone walks by and sees your stored password A good and simple way to avoid this is: - pidgin creates a secret key and stores it by itself into a file - all stored passwords are encrypted in the config file(s) with this key This prevents the above scenario. And works. Regards, David Okay, so now the password is fully available to the local admin in the earlier example, but with one down side: now the user won't realize that it is fully accessible to the local admin, but will instead think he or she is secure. As I said in the the wiki page explaining our view of this, in the rare case that you open your accounts.xml file in a text editor, you can determine how much of a breach of security has occurred. You can weigh the risk of someone having seen your password (and recognizing what account it is for, that it is a password, and so on in the mess of xml that is in your screen) against the potential benefits of being able to recover a password (say you don't remember it and need to enter it into the client you chose to use instead of pidgin. Or say you need to fill it into a form on a webpage to change it. Or a variety of other possibilities such as adding that account to a new instance of pidgin on a different computer). No one in this thread has yet come up with a scenario that materially differs from any that has come up in previous instances of this discussion, at least some of which are in the mailing list archives. Unless you can come up with something truly novel that throws the entire discussion into an entirely new light, I see no benefit to obscuring the passwords that is not outweighed, in the minds of those who would commit this code, by the problems that security by obscurity create. luke ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Behavior makes me cry
Marek Matulka: I see your point - no one is paying for it so developers shouldn't care about users. What is the purpose of software without users ? ;-) David ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Locale - Wrong format for time
It is closed with WORKSFORME. How is that supposed to help ? David From: Daniel Atallah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM To: David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Locale - Wrong format for time 2008/2/14 David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Pidgin 2.3.1 on WinXPproSP2. In irc channel chat, pidgin format the time (before each line) wrongly. My system preference is for 24 hour format (Slovenian), but Pidgin write in that silly AM/PM format. I'm pretty sure that you're seeing the behavior described in http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/3392. There is some unrelated information there related to some vista issues with the debug output, around comment #11 it gets relevant again. -D ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: Locale - Wrong format for time
Of course. Turning on the plugin still does not respect the preferences. (but is better) (if we neglect that it also prints the date). David From: Daniel Atallah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:26 PM To: David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Locale - Wrong format for time On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is closed with WORKSFORME. How is that supposed to help ? Did you read why? -D David From: Daniel Atallah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:54 PM To: David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Locale - Wrong format for time 2008/2/14 David Balazic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Pidgin 2.3.1 on WinXPproSP2. In irc channel chat, pidgin format the time (before each line) wrongly. My system preference is for 24 hour format (Slovenian), but Pidgin write in that silly AM/PM format. I'm pretty sure that you're seeing the behavior described in http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/3392. There is some unrelated information there related to some vista issues with the debug output, around comment #11 it gets relevant again. -D ___ Support mailing list Support@pidgin.im http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
