RE: so slow
If you start Pidgin, then exit and start it again (like in 10 seconds or less), how long dow it take? On my system, the first start is 10-20 seconds (depends, I did not make an accurate measurement), but the second is instantenous (1 second or less). On first start the GTK libs have to be loaded from the disk and they are quite large. (and on the second try they are cached or even already loaded) Also the auto-connect that others mentioned should nt make a difference. The Buddy List window appears first and only then it starts connecting. Regards, David -Original Message- From: support-boun...@pidgin.im [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Mestl, Robert R Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:52 PM To: Daniel Atallah Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: so slow Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx - Pidgin Debug Log For Mon 01/04/2010 14:43:38.55 - Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\GTK\2.0 Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. GTK+ path found: C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\bin Using SetDllDirectory Setting locale: LANG=en Looking for Perl... Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\Perl Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. not found. Looking for MIT Kerberos... Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\MIT\Kerberos Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. not found. (14:43:57) wpurple: shfolder.dll not already loaded; loading it... (14:43:58) wpurple: This version of shfolder.dll contains SHGetFolderPathW (14:43:58) wpurple: Purple settings dir: C:\Documents and Settings\ISDRRM\Application Data (14:43:58) winpidgin: winpidgin_init start (14:43:58) wpurple: Could not open reg key 'HKLM' subkey 'Software\Aspell'. Message: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. (14:43:58) wspell: Couldn't find path for Aspell (14:43:58) winpidgin: GTK+ :2.14.7 (14:43:58) wpurple: This version of user32.dll contains FlashWindowEx (14:43:58) winpidgin: winpidgin_init end (14:43:58) wpurple: wpurple_init start (14:43:58) wpurple: libpurple version: 2.6.4 (14:43:58) wpurple: Glib:2.18.4 (14:43:58) wpurple: wpurple_init end Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: Mestl, Robert R Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:24 PM To: 'Daniel Atallah' Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: so slow I guess I should note that this latency seems to only be after I first boot up my laptop... Right now it seems to start up fairly quickly after Quiting. I will see if I can troubleshoot the debug logging myself... Thx! Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: daniel.atal...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atal...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:14 PM To: Mestl, Robert R Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 15:05, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Attached is a screenshot of My Computer properties... I have no control over the SP updates, as it is a corporate controlled computer... That 15-20 sec wait is killer! I'm not sure why this is a big deal; ideally you're not restarting Pidgin all the time
RE: so slow
I am talking about when the program is loading from icon click to the program window being displayed on my screen... using windows XP. thx Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: Programmer In Training [mailto:p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:58 AM To: martins Cc: Mestl, Robert R; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On 12/31/2009 9:54 AM, martins wrote: maybe it is referred to the protocol. Mine (under linux ubuntu 9.10) opens almost instantly. Connects to icq and gmail in about two seconds and to msn takes up to 20 seconds. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support MSN always takes the longest to connect on mine, as well. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
I've used Pidgin for years on XP and Win7, and each time, Pidgin loads up from closed to a BL window (with no accounts auto-connecting which WILL slow things down like mentioned before, but not because of the application itself) in less than 10 seconds consistently. If you use the -n switch for the app, you'll disable auto-connecting upon startup and thus will see the app load faster. Keep in mind that the issue you are seeing is dependent on your environment, accounts, and plugins as well. -Michael Original Message Subject: Re: so slow From: Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com To: 'Programmer In Training' p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us, martins martins...@gmail.com Date: 1/4/2010 10:11 AM I am talking about when the program is loading from icon click to the program window being displayed on my screen... using windows XP. thx Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: Programmer In Training [mailto:p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:58 AM To: martins Cc: Mestl, Robert R; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On 12/31/2009 9:54 AM, martins wrote: maybe it is referred to the protocol. Mine (under linux ubuntu 9.10) opens almost instantly. Connects to icq and gmail in about two seconds and to msn takes up to 20 seconds. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support MSN always takes the longest to connect on mine, as well. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On 1/4/2010 9:11 AM, Mestl, Robert R wrote: I am talking about when the program is loading from icon click to the program window being displayed on my screen... using windows XP. thx Then, in that case, about 10 seconds here, but only because I'm opening through a batch file. WinXP Home SP3 here. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 15:05, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Attached is a screenshot of My Computer properties… I have no control over the SP updates, as it is a corporate controlled computer… That 15-20 sec wait is killer! I'm not sure why this is a big deal; ideally you're not restarting Pidgin all the time. At any rate, without a debug log, we can't guess why it is taking so long to start; see http://d.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports for how to get a debug log. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: so slow
I guess I should note that this latency seems to only be after I first boot up my laptop... Right now it seems to start up fairly quickly after Quiting. I will see if I can troubleshoot the debug logging myself... Thx! Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: daniel.atal...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atal...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:14 PM To: Mestl, Robert R Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 15:05, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Attached is a screenshot of My Computer properties... I have no control over the SP updates, as it is a corporate controlled computer... That 15-20 sec wait is killer! I'm not sure why this is a big deal; ideally you're not restarting Pidgin all the time. At any rate, without a debug log, we can't guess why it is taking so long to start; see http://d.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports for how to get a debug log. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: so slow
Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx - Pidgin Debug Log For Mon 01/04/2010 14:43:38.55 - Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\GTK\2.0 Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. GTK+ path found: C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\bin Using SetDllDirectory Setting locale: LANG=en Looking for Perl... Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\Perl Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. not found. Looking for MIT Kerberos... Could not open reg subkey: SOFTWARE\MIT\Kerberos Error: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. not found. (14:43:57) wpurple: shfolder.dll not already loaded; loading it... (14:43:58) wpurple: This version of shfolder.dll contains SHGetFolderPathW (14:43:58) wpurple: Purple settings dir: C:\Documents and Settings\ISDRRM\Application Data (14:43:58) winpidgin: winpidgin_init start (14:43:58) wpurple: Could not open reg key 'HKLM' subkey 'Software\Aspell'. Message: (2) The system cannot find the file specified. (14:43:58) wspell: Couldn't find path for Aspell (14:43:58) winpidgin: GTK+ :2.14.7 (14:43:58) wpurple: This version of user32.dll contains FlashWindowEx (14:43:58) winpidgin: winpidgin_init end (14:43:58) wpurple: wpurple_init start (14:43:58) wpurple: libpurple version: 2.6.4 (14:43:58) wpurple: Glib:2.18.4 (14:43:58) wpurple: wpurple_init end Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: Mestl, Robert R Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:24 PM To: 'Daniel Atallah' Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: so slow I guess I should note that this latency seems to only be after I first boot up my laptop... Right now it seems to start up fairly quickly after Quiting. I will see if I can troubleshoot the debug logging myself... Thx! Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: daniel.atal...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atal...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:14 PM To: Mestl, Robert R Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 15:05, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Attached is a screenshot of My Computer properties... I have no control over the SP updates, as it is a corporate controlled computer... That 15-20 sec wait is killer! I'm not sure why this is a big deal; ideally you're not restarting Pidgin all the time. At any rate, without a debug log, we can't guess why it is taking so long to start; see http://d.pidgin.im/wiki/TipsForBugReports for how to get a debug log. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 15:51, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx Nothing in the debug log is abnormal - the missing stuff isn't necessarily supposed to be there. I'm not sure where your missing 19 seconds are - is Windows still in the process of starting up when you launch Pidgin? -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On 1/4/2010 2:51 PM, Mestl, Robert R wrote: Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx Reinnstall the missing software or reinstall Pidgin. Personally I'd use a registry cleaner (Piriform has a program that has a good one that I trust) to clean out any bad entries, then do the reinstall of the missing software and/or Pidgin. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 16:03, Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 1/4/2010 2:51 PM, Mestl, Robert R wrote: Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx Reinnstall the missing software or reinstall Pidgin. Personally I'd use a registry cleaner (Piriform has a program that has a good one that I trust) to clean out any bad entries, then do the reinstall of the missing software and/or Pidgin. That's not the problem and isn't going to help. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On 1/4/2010 3:04 PM, Daniel Atallah wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 16:03, Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 1/4/2010 2:51 PM, Mestl, Robert R wrote: Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx Reinnstall the missing software or reinstall Pidgin. Personally I'd use a registry cleaner (Piriform has a program that has a good one that I trust) to clean out any bad entries, then do the reinstall of the missing software and/or Pidgin. That's not the problem and isn't going to help. -D Alright. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: so slow
I already use CCleaner on a regular basis. Windows is always done loading when I try to start up... Would a full uninstall, and reinstall, help reinstall the GTK files correctly?! Thx Robert Mestl Software Analyst, West Interactive Corporation 402-716-0492 | Cell 402-305-0702 | rrme...@west.com This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from West Corporation which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by a reply to sender only message and destroy all electronic and hard copies of the communication, including attachments. -Original Message- From: daniel.atal...@gmail.com [mailto:daniel.atal...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Atallah Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:05 PM To: Programmer In Training Cc: Mestl, Robert R; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: so slow On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 16:03, Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 1/4/2010 2:51 PM, Mestl, Robert R wrote: Ok... here is the top portion of a debug file... from the moment the .bat file starts to wpurple starting, it takes 19 seconds (14:43:38 - 12:43:57). What do I need to do to reset the missing registry keys/files? I currently have v2.6.4 running. thx Reinnstall the missing software or reinstall Pidgin. Personally I'd use a registry cleaner (Piriform has a program that has a good one that I trust) to clean out any bad entries, then do the reinstall of the missing software and/or Pidgin. That's not the problem and isn't going to help. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 16:59, Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: I already use CCleaner on a regular basis. Windows is always done loading when I try to start up... Would a full uninstall, and reinstall, help reinstall the GTK files correctly?! There is no reason to think that anything is not installed correctly. You might be able to step through with a debugger to try to see where the delay is, alternatively you could try to use Process Monitor (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx) to get a log of what is happening during that startup timeframe. -D ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow
On 12/31/2009 9:54 AM, martins wrote: maybe it is referred to the protocol. Mine (under linux ubuntu 9.10) opens almost instantly. Connects to icq and gmail in about two seconds and to msn takes up to 20 seconds. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support MSN always takes the longest to connect on mine, as well. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow...
And Mestl, Robert R spoke on 12/29/2009 06:47 AM, saying: Why does it take so long for pidgin to start up? Takes like 15-20 secs … What do you mean by start up? Do you mean to initially appear or to finish logging in or what? ~Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow...
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:47:17 -0600 Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Why does it take so long for pidgin to start up? Takes like 15-20 secs ... Why do you think that 15-20 seconds is a long time? Seems like very little time to me for a complex application to load and initialise. -- Brian Morrison I am not young enough to know everything Oscar Wilde ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow...
--On Tuesday, December 29, 2009 02:51:05 PM -0600 Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 12/29/2009 11:13 AM, Brian Morrison wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:47:17 -0600 Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Why does it take so long for pidgin to start up? Takes like 15-20 secs ... Why do you think that 15-20 seconds is a long time? Seems like very little time to me for a complex application to load and initialise. Well, Pidgin loads even quicker then that for me and I have several plugins installed. Pidgin isn't that complex, though. OOo takes 15-30 seconds to load for me and that's way more complex then Pidgin will ever dream of being (I hope). What evidence do you have that it is Pidgin that is slow and not something in the network? OpenOffice is really not a good application to compare Pidgin with. With network applications there are lots of steps in making a network connection that can cause the application to stall and wait. How many network connections are you making? How solid is your DNS? Is your ISP clueless about routing? Etc. In the end though, if it is only slow on start up, then why do you care? For me pidgin starts up automatically as part of my login process, connects to 5 IM servers and is up for 10-12 hours. Spending an extra 10 seconds at start up is really not worth worrying about. Bill -- Bill MacAllister, System Software Programmer Unix Systems Group, Stanford University ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: so slow...
On 12/29/2009 10:22 PM, Bill MacAllister wrote: --On Tuesday, December 29, 2009 02:51:05 PM -0600 Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 12/29/2009 11:13 AM, Brian Morrison wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:47:17 -0600 Mestl, Robert R rrme...@west.com wrote: Why does it take so long for pidgin to start up? Takes like 15-20 secs ... Why do you think that 15-20 seconds is a long time? Seems like very little time to me for a complex application to load and initialise. Well, Pidgin loads even quicker then that for me and I have several plugins installed. Pidgin isn't that complex, though. OOo takes 15-30 seconds to load for me and that's way more complex then Pidgin will ever dream of being (I hope). What evidence do you have that it is Pidgin that is slow and not something in the network? OpenOffice is really not a good application to compare Pidgin with. With network applications there are lots of steps in making a network connection that can cause the application to stall and wait. How many network connections are you making? How solid is your DNS? Is your ISP clueless about routing? Etc. Good points, but I connect to about 10 accounts, via an anonymous proxy relay service (SOCKS5) for all but one and it still loads up quicker then for the OP (and I load it up via a batch file that enables a debugging log). Connecting, though, is a different story though and I don't count that as part of load up time. I consider load up time from the time I click on the quick launch icon to the time I see my buddy list window. In the end though, if it is only slow on start up, then why do you care? For me pidgin starts up automatically as part of my login process, connects to 5 IM servers and is up for 10-12 hours. Spending an extra 10 seconds at start up is really not worth worrying about. Bill Another salient point. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
