Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[Bob Barrett]

NoOp wrote:

On 03/31/2009 05:17 PM, Daniel wrote:
  

NoOp wrote:



  

I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.

Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
recommended for any browser/suite.



  
NoOp, I can sort of remember that the instructions for SM say it must be 
run as root the first time to finish the installation.


But don't quote me, things do change!!

Daniel



Nope. There is *no* requirement at all to run SM as root or even to
install in a /usr/local directory. Unfortunately the default install
script is set to /usr/local; there has been considerable discussion in
the past regarding this very issue. All of my systems run SeaMonkey in
~/ and I've encountered no problems with regards to that yet. The only
thing that you need to do is change the install directory when you
initially install - there is a thread here somewhere were I've described
how to do that, if I find time tomorrow I'll see if I can dig it out.

IMO there *never* should be occasion to install SM in a root permissions
based directory/folder. I suspect that this is some type of hangover
from installing system wide. I suppose that there are reasons/instances
where you'd want to install SM on a system-wide basis, however this
should be the exception rather than the rule.


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In response to NoOp's earlier, I don't, usually, run as root.
The Seamonkey README says that it should be started the first time by root.

Seamonkey README:

Note: If you install in the default directory (which is usually
/usr/local/seamonkey), or any other directory where only the root user
normally has write-access, you must start SeaMonkey first as root before
other users can start the program. Doing so generates a set of files
required for later use by other users.  However, do not use sudo to run
the installer as root because that can damage your profile.

Thanks again, for your help
Bob
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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[Bob Barrett]

NoOp wrote:

On 03/31/2009 05:17 PM, Daniel wrote:
  

NoOp wrote:



  

I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.

Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
recommended for any browser/suite.



  
NoOp, I can sort of remember that the instructions for SM say it must be 
run as root the first time to finish the installation.


But don't quote me, things do change!!

Daniel



Nope. There is *no* requirement at all to run SM as root or even to
install in a /usr/local directory. Unfortunately the default install
script is set to /usr/local; there has been considerable discussion in
the past regarding this very issue. All of my systems run SeaMonkey in
~/ and I've encountered no problems with regards to that yet. The only
thing that you need to do is change the install directory when you
initially install - there is a thread here somewhere were I've described
how to do that, if I find time tomorrow I'll see if I can dig it out.

IMO there *never* should be occasion to install SM in a root permissions
based directory/folder. I suspect that this is some type of hangover
from installing system wide. I suppose that there are reasons/instances
where you'd want to install SM on a system-wide basis, however this
should be the exception rather than the rule.


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I found your instructions and I'll try it that way. This way
(/usr/local/seamonkey/) has worked without problems before, using the
...tar.gz file rather than the installer.

Thanks for your help,
Bob

p.s. instructions:

Installation with the SeaMonkey Installer

To install SeaMonkey by downloading the SeaMonkey installer, follow
these steps:

*Important!* Backup your existing ~/.mozilla directory before doing any
of the following.

  1. Download the installer file from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
(called seamonkey-1.1.11.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz).

  2. From a terminal, change to the directory that you downloaded the
file to and decompress the archive with the following command:

gunzip -dc sea*.tar.gz | tar -xvf -

 (This places the installer in a subdirectory named
seamonkey-installer: /home//seamonkey-installer)

  3. Change to the seamonkey-installer directory:

cd ~/seamonkey-installer

and run the installer with the following command:

./seamonkey-installer

4. Follow the instructions in the install wizard for installing

SeaMonkey. When you get to the "Please select the setup type you wish to
install" popup, select "Complete" and select "Change" for the
destination directory. Set the directory to /home//seamonkey
and click OK. That will set a path for /home//seamonkey and
tell you that the directory does not exist. It will then ask if you want
the installer to create the directory for you, answer yes. Note: do not
use /user/local/seamonkey for the installation location.

  4. To start SeaMonkey:

cd ~/seamonkey
./seamonkey

  6. Once you're satified that all is working well, create an
application menu using /home//seamonkey/seamonkey as the
application command. Icons can be found in:
/home//seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/ - I recommend using the
seamonkey.png icon.

With that done, you can completely remove the distro version 1.1.9 of
SeaMonkey.

Note: I've modified the above from 'seamonkey1.1.11' to just
'seamonkey'. There is no need to create a directory with the version in
the name as you'll want to use the same directory for SeaMonkey 1.1.12
when it comes out later this month. There is also no need to 'mkdir
seamonkey' as that is done when you use the installer wizard.


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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[NoOp]

On 03/31/2009 05:17 PM, Daniel wrote:
> NoOp wrote:

>> I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
>> installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.
>> 
>> Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
>> recommended for any browser/suite.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> NoOp, I can sort of remember that the instructions for SM say it must be 
> run as root the first time to finish the installation.
> 
> But don't quote me, things do change!!
> 
> Daniel

Nope. There is *no* requirement at all to run SM as root or even to
install in a /usr/local directory. Unfortunately the default install
script is set to /usr/local; there has been considerable discussion in
the past regarding this very issue. All of my systems run SeaMonkey in
~/ and I've encountered no problems with regards to that yet. The only
thing that you need to do is change the install directory when you
initially install - there is a thread here somewhere were I've described
how to do that, if I find time tomorrow I'll see if I can dig it out.

IMO there *never* should be occasion to install SM in a root permissions
based directory/folder. I suspect that this is some type of hangover
from installing system wide. I suppose that there are reasons/instances
where you'd want to install SM on a system-wide basis, however this
should be the exception rather than the rule.


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Re: The times...they are a'changing

[google00]

When daylight savings changed, on 1/2 my PCs I had to remove and re-
install the latest DST patch to get things to work.

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Re: The times...they are a'changing

[»Q«]

In ,
Leonidas Jones  wrote:

> Daniel wrote:

> > Lee, I know MS wanted to re-set my clock over the week end,
> > thinking we have finished Daylight Savings, but we didn't, so I had
> > to re-adjust my clock!
> >
> > This may explain how you managed to reply to my post before I
> > posted my post!
> >
> > Or is your ESP working overtime??
> >
> > Daniel
> 
> Clocks seem right from here. The time stamp here says 7:46, EDT,
> which should be right.

Lee's timestamps are ok.  But Daniel, yours are off by an hour.  If MS
automagically switched you off DST, it changed both the clock and the
offset from UTC, but it looks like you fixed only the clock without
fixing the offset.

-- 
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 Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.

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Re: [2.0a2] Cannot save address

[Leonidas Jones]

Daniel wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Peter, on odd occasions, I receive an email from someone that is not
in my address book, and I need to reply!

If I just click "Reply", add my reply, and hit send, when I next
check my address book, that address will appear with the email
address entered as both the email address AND the name (I usually
then go into the address book and change the name to something useful!).


why not right click on the email address and select "add to address
book"?



Yes, I could do that.IF I THINK OF IT AT THE TIME!! But I usually
don't think weather a person is already in my address book or not, I
just reply, and fix things, if needed, some time later!!

Daniel


As do I, but if the address is not being added to the AB, this is 
another option. Also good if you don't want to reply right away, but 
want to ensure that the address is in the AB anyway.


Lee

Lee
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Re: The times...they are a'changing

[Leonidas Jones]

Daniel wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50
or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
proportional font, etc. I won't repeat what I've already written.


but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!

A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the
emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML,
etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!



To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail
client.
8-{
/j


and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you
are responding in your reply!!!

Daniel


And some wonder why I have this filter setup for new.mozilla.org:

Organization: http://groups.google.com

:-)



I don't like to tar a whole groupI'm sure there must be some
reasonable (and/or intelligent) people that use Google-Groups!!

Daniel


I agree. I am afraid there is a whole generation that simply knows
nothing about newsgroups.

If we all filter out the google groupers, we will never have an
opportunity to introduce them to newsgroups.

Lee


Lee, I know MS wanted to re-set my clock over the week end, thinking we
have finished Daylight Savings, but we didn't, so I had to re-adjust my
clock!

This may explain how you managed to reply to my post before I posted my
post!

Or is your ESP working overtime??

Daniel


Clocks seem right from here. The time stamp here says 7:46, EDT, which 
should be right.


Lee
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Re: [2.0a2] Cannot save address

[Daniel]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Peter, on odd occasions, I receive an email from someone that is not 
in my address book, and I need to reply!


If I just click "Reply", add my reply, and hit send, when I next check 
my address book, that address will appear with the email address 
entered as both the email address AND the name (I usually then go into 
the address book and change the name to something useful!).


why not right click on the email address and select "add to address book"?



Yes, I could do that.IF I THINK OF IT AT THE TIME!! But I usually 
don't think weather a person is already in my address book or not, I 
just reply, and fix things, if needed, some time later!!


Daniel
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The times...they are a'changing (was: Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0)

[Daniel]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50
or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
proportional font, etc. I won't repeat what I've already written.


but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!

A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the
emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML,
etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!



To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail client.
8-{
/j


and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you
are responding in your reply!!!

Daniel


And some wonder why I have this filter setup for new.mozilla.org:

Organization: http://groups.google.com

:-)



I don't like to tar a whole groupI'm sure there must be some
reasonable (and/or intelligent) people that use Google-Groups!!

Daniel


I agree.  I am afraid there is a whole generation that simply knows 
nothing about newsgroups.


If we all filter out the google groupers, we will never have an 
opportunity to introduce them to newsgroups.


Lee


Lee, I know MS wanted to re-set my clock over the week end, thinking we 
have finished Daylight Savings, but we didn't, so I had to re-adjust my 
clock!


This may explain how you managed to reply to my post before I posted my 
post!


Or is your ESP working overtime??

Daniel
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:48:11 PM, and on a whim, 
googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard:



On Mar 31, 7:11 pm, "Terry R."  wrote:

The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim,
googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard:




On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I
composed in HTML.  In HTML, there was a blank line before the line
that starts "Me".  When I go into the sent folder and do a view ->
message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been
converted totext).
However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to
myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line
is MISSING.  Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and
it becomes very hard to read.
OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE"
From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-
Keys:
Message-ID: [omitted]
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400
From: [omitted]
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15
MIME-Version: 1.0
To:[omitted]
Subject: This Week...
Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
/j
WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
/j

Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example.
I do your test.
It seems that only you have a problem ...
My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look 
Subject: TEST CONVERSION
Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2
X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"!
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.

You gottext, not HTML

/j

You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed.
In the case you furnishedThe inputtextin plaintext, so the mail
is also plaintext. All is NORMAL.
You said also "the blank line is MISSING. " ...i used your inputtextas
test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us.
So YOUR pc have a problem  not mine.
SM is WORKING PERFECTLY.
If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTMLtext.
AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format.

I can't furnish in HTML, SM always converts it to plaintext.  and I
never said I wanted to force anyone to do anything (except for certain
readers to read the whole thread and take a request seriously) 8-}

Like I mentioned, if you insert a sig that has just one HTML element,
say a specific color or something of that sort, then it would be sent in
HTML.  Or use the Insert HTML and insert a horizontal line at the top or
bottom (i.e.  ). That will force it to be sent in HTML.

Terry R.
--


Thanks Terry - I appreciate it, and I know many people (from postings
elsewhere) use this workaround.  I just thought that if there were so
many people working around something, it might make sense to request a
fix.

best regards
/j


I can see how it is confusing, although I agree with the method.  Most 
of us write a message and send it off.  I compose in HTML and I have a 
serif font as my default.  I have my settings set to send in HTML to 
specific people in my AB, and because my sig file is an HTML file, it's 
sent that way.


But if I don't have any specific HTML elements and I am composing in 
HTML mode, TB is taking the privilege to send the message as it sees 
fit, since there aren't any HTML elements included.


I would agree that if the user has the settings to compose in HTML, it 
should be sent in HTML, EVEN if there is only a font setting as the default.



Terry R.
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Daniel wrote:

If it says "Scam", I don't know that you can train SM to do anything, 
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...


no you can't, but you can turn it off.

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Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech 
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except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org 
newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned.


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Re: [2.0a2] Cannot save address

[Leonidas Jones]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Peter, on odd occasions, I receive an email from someone that is not
in my address book, and I need to reply!

If I just click "Reply", add my reply, and hit send, when I next check
my address book, that address will appear with the email address
entered as both the email address AND the name (I usually then go into
the address book and change the name to something useful!).


why not right click on the email address and select "add to address book"?



Should work.  It will be in the Headers pane at the top of the message 
pane, or in a separate window of you are viewing in a separate window.


Lee
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[google00]

On Mar 31, 7:11 pm, "Terry R."  wrote:
> The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim,
> googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net 
> > wrote:
> >> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
> >>> On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net 
> >>> wrote:
>  googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
> > Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I
> > composed in HTML.  In HTML, there was a blank line before the line
> > that starts "Me".  When I go into the sent folder and do a view ->
> > message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been
> > converted totext).
> > However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to
> > myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line
> > is MISSING.  Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and
> > it becomes very hard to read.
> > OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE"
> > From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009
> > X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> > X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
> > X-Mozilla-
> > Keys:
> > Message-ID: [omitted]
> > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400
> > From: [omitted]
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
> > 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > To:[omitted]
> > Subject: This Week...
> > Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
> > I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
> > Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> > this week)
> > If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> > ASAP.
> > Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> > /j
> > WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER
> > OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
> > I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
> > Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> > this week)
> > If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> > ASAP.
> > Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> > /j
>  Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example.
>  I do your test.
>  It seems that only you have a problem ...
>  My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look 
>  Subject: TEST CONVERSION
>  Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>  X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2
>  X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"!
>  OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
>  I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
>  Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
>  this week)
>  If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
>  ASAP.
>  Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> >>> You gottext, not HTML
> >>> 
> >>> /j
> >> You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed.
> >> In the case you furnishedThe inputtextin plaintext, so the mail
> >> is also plaintext. All is NORMAL.
>
> >> You said also "the blank line is MISSING. " ...i used your inputtextas
> >> test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us.
> >> So YOUR pc have a problem  not mine.
>
> >> SM is WORKING PERFECTLY.
> >> If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTMLtext.
> >> AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format.
>
> > I can't furnish in HTML, SM always converts it to plaintext.  and I
> > never said I wanted to force anyone to do anything (except for certain
> > readers to read the whole thread and take a request seriously) 8-}
>
> Like I mentioned, if you insert a sig that has just one HTML element,
> say a specific color or something of that sort, then it would be sent in
> HTML.  Or use the Insert HTML and insert a horizontal line at the top or
> bottom (i.e.  ). That will force it to be sent in HTML.
>
> Terry R.
> --
>
Thanks Terry - I appreciate it, and I know many people (from postings
elsewhere) use this workaround.  I just thought that if there were so
many people working around something, it might make sense to request a
fix.

best regards
/j
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[Leonidas Jones]

Daniel wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50
or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
proportional font, etc. I won't repeat what I've already written.


but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!

A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the
emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML,
etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!



To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail client.
8-{
/j


and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you
are responding in your reply!!!

Daniel


And some wonder why I have this filter setup for new.mozilla.org:

Organization: http://groups.google.com

:-)



I don't like to tar a whole groupI'm sure there must be some
reasonable (and/or intelligent) people that use Google-Groups!!

Daniel


I agree.  I am afraid there is a whole generation that simply knows 
nothing about newsgroups.


If we all filter out the google groupers, we will never have an 
opportunity to introduce them to newsgroups.


Lee
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Daniel]

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


Cedar, when you say "Something is marking some of my e-mails with 
[spam]", what do you mean??


The others have told you that your ISP may be marking your mail with 
SpamAssassin and such, but are you meaning that when you look at an 
email, you get a line in the display saying something like "SeaMonkey 
thinks this is a Spam message"? (or is that "Scam" or "Junk"?).


If it's "Junk", you can train SM so that it recognises Junk and 
automatically removes the message to your Junk file, or deletes it.


If it says "Scam", I don't know that you can train SM to do anything, 
except to let you know which messages it thinks are sus...


Daniel
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Re: [2.0a2] Cannot save address

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Daniel wrote:

Peter, on odd occasions, I receive an email from someone that is not in 
my address book, and I need to reply!


If I just click "Reply", add my reply, and hit send, when I next check 
my address book, that address will appear with the email address entered 
as both the email address AND the name (I usually then go into the 
address book and change the name to something useful!).


why not right click on the email address and select 
"add to address book"?


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help Emails to me may become public


Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech 
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except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org 
newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned.


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Re: [2.0a2] Cannot save address

[Daniel]

P.N. wrote:


Hello!

I've got this annoying problem: Want to add an address for a mailing 
list, but as it is only a list's address, there's no first name and last 
name, so I'm entering only display name and email address. When clicking 
OK, the address is dropped without any warning :-(


So, please tell me, which fields I have to fill in to get it saved, is 
it first or last name, and which fields are probably also needed???


Kind regards

Peter


Peter, on odd occasions, I receive an email from someone that is not in 
my address book, and I need to reply!


If I just click "Reply", add my reply, and hit send, when I next check 
my address book, that address will appear with the email address entered 
as both the email address AND the name (I usually then go into the 
address book and change the name to something useful!).


I've got no idea why SM might be rejecting your attempt to add an 
address, but the next time you do try to add it, why not give it a first 
and last name "Mail" and "List" would do.


But it's just occured to me that if your address book was marked as 
"Read Only" it would not save addresses, so use your Windows Explorer to 
locate the address book (which I think is abook.mab) and have a look at 
it's properties to see if it is marked as Read Only. You may have to 
expose (unhide) all your sub-folders first:-


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/hiddenfiles.mspx

HTH

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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[Daniel]

NoOp wrote:

On 03/30/2009 05:00 PM, Bob Barrett wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 03/30/2009 11:34 AM, Bob Barrett wrote:
  

I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in
/usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the
first start as root, I get this error:

  ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries:


./seamonkey

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Thanks for the quick response.

Sorry. It looks like I forgot to supply that part.

After trying to start it the first time as root' (with ./seamonkey),
I received the error message.

Bob



I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.

Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
recommended for any browser/suite.





NoOp, I can sort of remember that the instructions for SM say it must be 
run as root the first time to finish the installation.


But don't quote me, things do change!!

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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim, 
googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard:



On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I
composed in HTML.  In HTML, there was a blank line before the line
that starts "Me".  When I go into the sent folder and do a view ->
message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been
converted totext).
However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to
myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line
is MISSING.  Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and
it becomes very hard to read.
OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE"
From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-
Keys:
Message-ID: [omitted]
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400
From: [omitted]
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15
MIME-Version: 1.0
To:[omitted]
Subject: This Week...
Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
/j
WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
/j

Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example.
I do your test.
It seems that only you have a problem ...
My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look 
Subject: TEST CONVERSION
Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2
X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"!
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.

You gottext, not HTML

/j

You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed.
In the case you furnishedThe inputtextin plaintext, so the mail
is also plaintext. All is NORMAL.

You said also "the blank line is MISSING. " ...i used your inputtextas
test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us.
So YOUR pc have a problem  not mine.

SM is WORKING PERFECTLY.
If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTMLtext.
AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format.


I can't furnish in HTML, SM always converts it to plain text.  and I
never said I wanted to force anyone to do anything (except for certain
readers to read the whole thread and take a request seriously) 8-}


Like I mentioned, if you insert a sig that has just one HTML element, 
say a specific color or something of that sort, then it would be sent in 
HTML.  Or use the Insert HTML and insert a horizontal line at the top or 
bottom (i.e.  ). That will force it to be sent in HTML.



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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[Daniel]

NoOp wrote:

On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in.  If you look back at the last 50
or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
sending in plain text.  SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
proportional font, etc.  I won't repeat what I've already written.


but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!

A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the 
emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML, 
etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!




To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail client.
8-{
/j

and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you 
are responding in your reply!!!


Daniel


And some wonder why I have this filter setup for new.mozilla.org:

Organization: http://groups.google.com

:-)



I don't like to tar a whole groupI'm sure there must be some 
reasonable (and/or intelligent) people that use Google-Groups!!


Daniel
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[google00]

On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:
> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net 
> > wrote:
> >> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
> >>> Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I
> >>> composed in HTML.  In HTML, there was a blank line before the line
> >>> that starts "Me".  When I go into the sent folder and do a view ->
> >>> message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been
> >>> converted totext).
> >>> However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to
> >>> myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line
> >>> is MISSING.  Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and
> >>> it becomes very hard to read.
> >>> OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE"
> >>> From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009
> >>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> >>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
> >>> X-Mozilla-
> >>> Keys:
> >>> Message-ID: [omitted]
> >>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400
> >>> From: [omitted]
> >>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
> >>> 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15
> >>> MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>> To:[omitted]
> >>> Subject: This Week...
> >>> Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>> OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
> >>> I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
> >>> Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> >>> this week)
> >>> If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> >>> ASAP.
> >>> Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> >>> /j
> >>> WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER
> >>> OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
> >>> I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
> >>> Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> >>> this week)
> >>> If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> >>> ASAP.
> >>> Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> >>> /j
> >> Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example.
> >> I do your test.
> >> It seems that only you have a problem ...
> >> My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look 
>
> >> Subject: TEST CONVERSION
> >> Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2
> >> X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"!
>
> >> OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
>
> >> I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
>
> >> Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> >> this week)
>
> >> If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> >> ASAP.
> >> Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
>
> > You gottext, not HTML
> > 
> > /j
>
> You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed.
> In the case you furnishedThe inputtextin plaintext, so the mail
> is also plaintext. All is NORMAL.
>
> You said also "the blank line is MISSING. " ...i used your inputtextas
> test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us.
> So YOUR pc have a problem  not mine.
>
> SM is WORKING PERFECTLY.
> If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTMLtext.
> AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format.

I can't furnish in HTML, SM always converts it to plain text.  and I
never said I wanted to force anyone to do anything (except for certain
readers to read the whole thread and take a request seriously) 8-}
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[google00]

On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:
> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net 
> > wrote:
> >> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
> >>> Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I
> >>> composed in HTML.  In HTML, there was a blank line before the line
> >>> that starts "Me".  When I go into the sent folder and do a view ->
> >>> message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been
> >>> converted totext).
> >>> However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to
> >>> myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line
> >>> is MISSING.  Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and
> >>> it becomes very hard to read.
> >>> OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE"
> >>> From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009
> >>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> >>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
> >>> X-Mozilla-
> >>> Keys:
> >>> Message-ID: [omitted]
> >>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400
> >>> From: [omitted]
> >>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
> >>> 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15
> >>> MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>> To:[omitted]
> >>> Subject: This Week...
> >>> Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>> OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
> >>> I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
> >>> Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> >>> this week)
> >>> If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> >>> ASAP.
> >>> Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> >>> /j
> >>> WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER
> >>> OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
> >>> I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
> >>> Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> >>> this week)
> >>> If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> >>> ASAP.
> >>> Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
> >>> /j
> >> Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example.
> >> I do your test.
> >> It seems that only you have a problem ...
> >> My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look 
>
> >> Subject: TEST CONVERSION
> >> Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2
> >> X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"!
>
> >> OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
>
> >> I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
>
> >> Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
> >> this week)
>
> >> If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
> >> ASAP.
> >> Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
>
> > You gottext, not HTML
> > 
> > /j
>
> You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed.
> In the case you furnishedThe inputtextin plaintext, so the mail
> is also plaintext. All is NORMAL.
>
> You said also "the blank line is MISSING. " ...i used your inputtextas
> test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us.
> So YOUR pc have a problem  not mine.
>
> SM is WORKING PERFECTLY.
> If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTMLtext.
> AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format.

Yup - you must be right, I don't have a problem, I never had a
problem.  (or perhaps all my PCs, at home and work, uniquely have a
problem).  Terry is wrong.  There are no intermittent problems.  SM is
perfect.  You are also perfect.
God bless you.
Have a great Day!
(sigh)
/j
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[Ray_Net]

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net 
wrote:

googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:

Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I
composed in HTML.  In HTML, there was a blank line before the line
that starts "Me".  When I go into the sent folder and do a view ->
message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been
converted totext).
However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to
myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line
is MISSING.  Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and
it becomes very hard to read.
OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE"
From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-
Keys:
Message-ID: [omitted]
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400
From: [omitted]
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15
MIME-Version: 1.0
To:[omitted]
Subject: This Week...
Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
/j
WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER
OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.
I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:
Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)
If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.
/j

Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example.
I do your test.
It seems that only you have a problem ...
My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look 

Subject: TEST CONVERSION
Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2
X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"!

OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks.

I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday:

Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away
this week)

If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know
ASAP.
Otherwise, we'll assume a  quorum.



You got text, not HTML

/j



You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed.
In the case you furnishedThe input text in plain text, so the mail 
is also plain text. All is NORMAL.


You said also "the blank line is MISSING. " ...i used your input text as 
test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us.

So YOUR pc have a problem  not mine.

SM is WORKING PERFECTLY.
If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTML text.
AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format.
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Jay Garcia]

On 31.03.2009 10:35, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus 
or something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this is 
probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This 
feature (I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to filter 
incoming emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email provider 
site.




A "nuisance" ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, most 
of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never sees these).




Jay,

You misunderstood me, meaning I was not clear enough. Of course, spam 
filters are more than useful, they are a necessity (I am a spamcop user, 
I should know!).


What is a nuisance IMHO are ISP filters that let mail go through but add 
the spam score in the objet line. Unless this is user configurable.


Those scores should be transparent at the end user level.


Spamassassin is user-configurable, the default threshold is "5". Any 
message 5 or higher gets flagged. You, the user, can increase/decrease 
the default.


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Re: 1.1.15 upgrade corrupts settings

[Marisa Ciceran]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


I'm presuming thats Netscape 4.x.  If so, then you need to reinstall 
that, and use their profile manager to remove that profile.



Peter,

Yes, Netscape 4.x. I hadn't thought of that "fix", but it makes sense 
to me. When I find a copy of the installation file, I will try it.


you can get it here: ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english


Hi Peter,

I found my copy of version 4.79 and reinstalled it. To my 
surprise, I didn't have to do anything to my SeaMonkey Mail 
Profiles as the moment I went to open it up, lo and behold I 
saw the Netscape listing disappear right before my eyes!


Along with that came another unexpected bonus. Where I have 
not had the sounds options with SeaMonkey mail working for 
several years, they suddenly reappeared and are working again.


I resisted uninstalling my old Netscape 4.79 for a very long 
time, and had waited for version 4.8. I grabbed a copy of 
that installation file just now and will keep it for 
posterity. :-)


Thanks again for all your help.

Marisa


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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[NoOp]

On 03/30/2009 05:00 PM, Bob Barrett wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 03/30/2009 11:34 AM, Bob Barrett wrote:
>>   
>>> I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in
>>> /usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the
>>> first start as root, I get this error:
>>>
>>>   ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
>>> 
>>
>> ./seamonkey
>>
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> Sorry. It looks like I forgot to supply that part.
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> After trying to start it the first time as root' (with ./seamonkey),
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I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.

Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
recommended for any browser/suite.



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Re: Inbox.msf

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:42:11 AM, and on a whim, 
Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard:



Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB.
I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to 
other folders.


What's in the 1GB file?
I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but 
there's nothing in it
the *.msf files are just index files.  They tell the program which way 
messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc.


The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones 
that contain your messages.  You can open those files using any text 
editor.  But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening.


I forgot to add: when you delete messages, the message is deleted from 
the folder, but it still remains in the file.  This is incase you want 
the messages back, there is a way to retrieve them.  However, once in a 
while, you need to clean up your files, and get rid of those left over 
messages, and the way to do that is to compact your folders [under File].





Thanks everyone -- apparently at some recent time I must have unchecked the "compact 
automatically" box -- I had always let compacting happen automatically so I never 
had a big buildup of wasted space before!

That was exactly the problem.


You're welcome Bill.


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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[John Doue]

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus 
or something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this is 
probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This 
feature (I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to filter 
incoming emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email provider 
site.




A "nuisance" ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, most 
of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never sees these).




Jay,

You misunderstood me, meaning I was not clear enough. Of course, spam 
filters are more than useful, they are a necessity (I am a spamcop user, 
I should know!).


What is a nuisance IMHO are ISP filters that let mail go through but add 
the spam score in the objet line. Unless this is user configurable.


Those scores should be transparent at the end user level.
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Jay Garcia]

On 31.03.2009 09:01, John Doue wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new 
version of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or 
something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this is 
probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This feature 
(I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to filter incoming 
emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email provider site.




A "nuisance" ?? If you were one of my mail customers you would be 
singing a different tune. We flag over 8,000 spam messages daily, most 
of which are rejected by our blacklists (the customer never sees these).



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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


it can be one of several things.  First, check with 
your email provider.  If no, then check with your anti 
virus, and your firewall.  These have been known to add 
things to the subject matter.


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Re: Inbox.msf

[Bill Spikowski]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB.
I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to 
other folders.


What's in the 1GB file?
I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but 
there's nothing in it


the *.msf files are just index files.  They tell the program which way 
messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc.


The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones 
that contain your messages.  You can open those files using any text 
editor.  But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening.




I forgot to add: when you delete messages, the message is deleted from 
the folder, but it still remains in the file.  This is incase you want 
the messages back, there is a way to retrieve them.  However, once in a 
while, you need to clean up your files, and get rid of those left over 
messages, and the way to do that is to compact your folders [under File].





Thanks everyone -- apparently at some recent time I must have unchecked the "compact 
automatically" box -- I had always let compacting happen automatically so I never 
had a big buildup of wasted space before!

That was exactly the problem.
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[John Doue]

Cedar wrote:
Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?
If this is something like  [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 03.8/3.0], this is 
probably the antispam filter of your ISP or email provider. This feature 
(I call this a nuisance actually, but it can be use to filter incoming 
emails) can sometimes be turn off on the ISP/email provider site.


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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Jay Garcia]

On 31.03.2009 04:47, Cedar wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


Contact your ISP, they may be using SpamAssassin to flag ***SPAM*** in 
the subject line of your received email. Also, you may have a cpanel 
available at your ISP where you can adjust your own personal spam settings.


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Re: SM2 does not offer to remember passwords

[Margo Guda]

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Margo Guda wrote:



Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Margo Guda wrote:

I recently changed the password on one site which was on my managed
passwords list. So I used the password manager to delete that entry,
as it would pop up with the old password filled out.
However I do want the new password to be remembered by SM, and now
when I log in at the site it never offers to remember the password.
I have set cookies to be accepted for the site, javascript is ON,
popups are permitted (in case SM would use that to ask me to save the
password). SM (I'm having this on two different machines, one running
2.0a3 and the other running 2.0 b1, both show the problem) never
offers to save my password. In preferences the option to save
passwords is ticked ON as well. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.

And Password-Manager/Passwords Never Saved, is not listing the site ? (I
just found that for me, it is denying addonsmirror.net, which is
surprising. I removed it from this passwords that will not be saved
list).



No. But someone on this board mentioned a problem similar to what I
saw, and posted this link:
https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html
This site has a bookmarklet that I could use: it seems the web page
would suppress asking for a password after SM had saved one once. I
don't claim to understand what happened, but running the Remember
password bookmarklet enabled SM to pop the question again, and, once
remembered, the password is in my password list and is entered
automatically when the login box pops up. That's all I wanted, so I've
saved the bookmarklet for later reference.
Thanks for responding.

Many thanks for that link. Good to know "Remember Password" bookmarklet
works in SM-2.0a3 and 2.0 b1pre.
Just a note to-mention a pretty-important caveat, in that
"Remember-Password" only works on sites that use autocomplete="off" to
prevent your browser from remembering passwords. If the site uses
another method to break your browser's password manager, such as having
two password fields or submitting the form using JavaScript, this
bookmarklet won't help. Barry.

You're right, and the site itself makes that clear. Also, when you run the 
bookmarklet, it reports what it does. And I have not seen anyone even 
mentioning a work-around for that solution, so I guess when I find a site 
that protects its security in that way, I'll just have to live with it.

But this one was not so crucial, so I'm glad I found this.

Margo.
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Re: Spam in e-mails...?

[Leonidas Jones]

Cedar wrote:

Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version
of sm doing this? or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?


Maybe, or something on your ISP's end.  Its not SM.

Lee
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Spam in e-mails...?

[Cedar]

Something is marking some of my e-mails with [spam], is this new version 
of sm doing this?  or would it more likely be avg antivirus or something?

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Re: Inbox.msf

[John Doue]

David L. Ross wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36:19 PM, and on a 
whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard:



My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB.
I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to 
other folders.


What's in the 1GB file?
I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but 
there's nothing in it


Hi Bill,

Right click on the folder and select, "Compact".  When message come 
in and are removed, unless you configure an auto-compact, the old 
messages still remain in the folder.  They're just "marked" as 
deleted until you compact.


I prefer doing it manually rather than having the program do it.


Me too.

Don't forget to mention that "cleaning" a 1GB will take a "certain" time 


Actually a likely long UNCERTAIN amount of time. Depends on just how 
many deleted emails are in it and the speed of your computer and disk 
drive.


Give it a few minutes. Or more.

David


All this is correct. But the fastest way to correct this situation, once 
you have ascertained no emails remain in that Inbox file, is to delete 
it, *after* closing SM. It will be recreated next time you launch SM. 
This applies to drafts to.


Of course, do not do that on folders you have created. They would not 
get recreated!


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