Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/24/2009 1:07 AM, Daniel wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 Hmmm, I show 43,739. I guess it depends on how many headers were downloaded
 when the group was initially subscribed? I always download all headers (as
 I have a connection that makes this easy).

 
 Interesting!!
 
 
 I've just set up this new laptop in the past fortnight or so, and for 
 the four groups I check on this server, I downloaded all the headers and 
 this group, now, about six weeks after Marks post, is only showing as 
 38943 messages!!
 

Is it because the news server has removed some of the older posts, such that
if you get a new list today, it will not go back as far as the list I downloaded
some time ago?

When I view all messages in the group, the first header I see is:

  Welcome to mozilla.support.seamonkey, posted by Dave Miller on 1/9/2006.

Interestingly, the first response to that post was from you :-)

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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread n...@home



»Q« wrote:

Innews:kkqdnzy5qeknu6_wnz2dnuvz_gudn...@mozilla.org,
n...@homen...@home.net  wrote:


I like to have access to certain web sites when I am remotely
situated, without internet access.

I was happy using Scrapbook with earlier versions of SM, but as I
updated SM (I am at v 2.0.1 now) Scrapbook has disappeared.  When I
go to their site they list compatibility with Firefox, but say
nothing about SM.


Try Philip Chee's modified version at
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modified.html#scrapbook.  Note that you
also need his xSidebar extension installed.  Philip hangs out here, in
case you run into any trouble.

Thanks.  I couldn't find the xsidebar extension, but when I downloaded 
the scrapbook file it went ahead and installed, so either I unknowingly 
had the xsidebar extension, or it is automatically loaded with the 
scrapbook version.  Now I'm off to find some sites to copy for our next 
trip.

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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread n...@home



Danny Kile wrote:

n...@home wrote:

I like to have access to certain web sites when I am remotely situated,
without internet access.

I was happy using Scrapbook with earlier versions of SM, but as I
updated SM (I am at v 2.0.1 now) Scrapbook has disappeared. When I go to
their site they list compatibility with Firefox, but say nothing about
SM.

Would such a program that is compatible with Firefox also work with SM?

If not, what is a good method to capture some websites so I can use the
information on them when I am away from the Internet? My technical
abilities are limited.

I use a program called Local Website Archive. I install it on a flash
drive and carry it in my pocket. That way I have it wherever I go and on
any PC that has a USB port

You can get it here: http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm

Danny,
Thanks.  I downloaded the program but haven't installed it yet as I'm 
going to try the sidebar first, since I have worked with it before and 
won't have to be trained.

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Happens every Year .

2009-12-24 Thread question

Merry Xmas to all
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Re: Happens every Year .

2009-12-24 Thread Rufus

NoOp wrote:

On 12/24/2009 12:32 PM, question wrote:

Merry Xmas to all


In the USA there is a template for this:


To My Democrat  Friends:

Please accept with no  obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes
for an environmentally conscious,  socially responsible, low-stress,
non-addictive, gender-neutral  celebration of the winter solstice
holiday, practiced within  the most enjoyable traditions of the
religious persuasion of  your choice, or secular practices of your
choice, with respect  for the religious/secular persuasion and/or
traditions of others, or  their choice not to practice religious or
secular traditions at  all. I also wish you a fiscally successful,
personally fulfilling and medically  uncomplicated recognition of the
onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2010,  but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other  cultures whose
contributions to society have helped make America  great. Not to imply
that America is necessarily greater than any  other country nor the only
America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without
regard to the  race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious
faith, familiar status, or  sexual orientation of the wished.


To My Republican  Friends:

Merry Christmas and a Happy  New Year!


:-) Happy Holidays to all :-)



Merry Christmas, everyone!  And a Happy-Happy once we get there.

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Re: Happens every Year .

2009-12-24 Thread Phillip Jones

question wrote:

Merry Xmas to all


And to all a Good night!

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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread Phillip Jones

Danny Kile wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JeffM wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I use a program called Local Website Archive.

http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm


I find it fascinating that the website for a company in that business
doesn't pass muster:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm
5 Errors

Compare:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modified.html


Who says that Company Web Designers (whether in house or paid) pay one
whit attention about W3C specifications.

Granted the ones the are here have had it hammered in their head. I'd be
very surprised if MS, Adobe, Intuit if you were check theirs would be. 5
error is not a heck of a lot.

On my own site I've spent literally months (not every day and not every
minute) re working mine to be W#C compliant to at least XML (XHTML) 1.0.
Transitional spec. And I still not sure I've go everything.


I checked Mocrosoft.com, cnn.com, tvguide.com, weather.com, adobe.com
and uweather.com thet all had hundreds of errors. All their site seem to
work just fine, so much for validator. I did mozilla.org and it was the
only site that passed.

Danny
I hope everyone doesn't take my post the wrong way. I am all for the W3C 
standards. I wish every website was 100 Compliant even those from MS. 
(which they don't, or didn't for a long time, so that only people that 
used IE could view their content.)


But realities are I would be surprised most profession and non Pro web 
designers never heard of W3C.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.1 won't print emails

2009-12-24 Thread Phillip Jones

Peter wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.0.1 won't print emails, or anything.

Can anyone help please?..

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=1661975start=0

Thank you.

Peter

works for me

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Re: Bizarre behavior in 2.0.1 mailnews

2009-12-24 Thread Martin Freitag

Bill Davidsen schrieb:

When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll indicator
can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle click in the scroll
region the indicator and display move to that spot. Useful so I can move
around. In 2.0.1 the same action opens a tab instead of scrolling. Note:
no I am *not* clicking on the article header by accident, that's a
useful behavior.

The only way to get the previous behavior is to shift-click, which
requires use of both hands, more time, etc.I can't find any benefit at
all from this behavior and regard it as a regression from 1.1.xx interface.

I do have middleclick opens in new tab, that's a browser thing, and
should not apply to the scrollbar!



why would you middle-click instead of a normal click?

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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread Mark Hansen
On 12/24/2009 9:35 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 JeffM wrote:
 Danny Kile wrote:
 I use a program called Local Website Archive.

 http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm

 I find it fascinating that the website for a company in that business
 doesn't pass muster:
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm
 5 Errors

 Compare:
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modified.html

 Who says that Company Web Designers (whether in house or paid) pay one
 whit attention about W3C specifications.

 Granted the ones the are here have had it hammered in their head. I'd be
 very surprised if MS, Adobe, Intuit if you were check theirs would be. 5
 error is not a heck of a lot.

 On my own site I've spent literally months (not every day and not every
 minute) re working mine to be W#C compliant to at least XML (XHTML) 1.0.
 Transitional spec. And I still not sure I've go everything.

 I checked Mocrosoft.com, cnn.com, tvguide.com, weather.com, adobe.com 
 and uweather.com thet all had hundreds of errors. All their site seem to 
 work just fine, so much for validator. I did mozilla.org and it was the 
 only site that passed.
 
 Danny

So much for validator?

The validator checks to see if the code that makes up the HTML/CSS is
correct. If it's not correct, it generates a validation warning/error.

If it's not correct, it's not correct. There are no two way about this.

The fact that a web site appears to function correctly doesn't mean the
HTML/CSS has no problems. Some problems can be big and some can be small.
Some will affect only certain browsers, some will affect only certain parts
of the application, etc.

Are you really saying that if the site appears to work to your standards
even with validation errors, that the validator has no value?

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Re: Unable to import seamonkey 1.x to Seamonkey 2.0

2009-12-24 Thread Martin Freitag

ad...@mmri.us schrieb:

Does this mean that,  it is eventually the end  of all 1.x mail?
What about all my filters? Stored Passwords? etc

I use this in a corporate environment and it is going to be very painful
to tell everyone that this is now the end of their email and they will
have to completely start from scratch setting up everything.#



In a corporate environment users usually don't set up their clients 
theirselves o_0
have you ever tried migrating on several machines? Thousands of users 
(icluding me) have migrated successfully I doubt it will fail for all on 
your side. And if so, something is seriously borked on all systems and 
it should be the same cause everywhere.

regards

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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread Martin Freitag

n...@home schrieb:


Thanks. I couldn't find the xsidebar extension, but when I downloaded
the scrapbook file it went ahead and installed, so either I unknowingly
had the xsidebar extension, or it is automatically loaded with the
scrapbook version. Now I'm off to find some sites to copy for our next
trip.



afaik xsidebar was made for SM1, probably some functionality is built in 
into SM2.

btw: you can see which extensions are installed in the AddOn-Manager.
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Re: Printout Password Manager Entries?

2009-12-24 Thread Martin Freitag

Tom schrieb:

I have entries in Password Manager since 1999 and many are no longer
used and there are many duplicates. In order to prune out old entries,
I'd like to be able to print out all of the entries. Is there any way to
do this with some kind hex editor?


Use Password Exporter Extension:
http://code.google.com/p/passwordexporter/

It may be required to set extensions.CheckCompatibility to false in 
about:config to install.

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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread Phillip Jones

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 12/24/2009 9:35 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JeffM wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I use a program called Local Website Archive.

http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm


I find it fascinating that the website for a company in that business
doesn't pass muster:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm
5 Errors

Compare:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modified.html


Who says that Company Web Designers (whether in house or paid) pay one
whit attention about W3C specifications.

Granted the ones the are here have had it hammered in their head. I'd be
very surprised if MS, Adobe, Intuit if you were check theirs would be. 5
error is not a heck of a lot.

On my own site I've spent literally months (not every day and not every
minute) re working mine to be W#C compliant to at least XML (XHTML) 1.0.
Transitional spec. And I still not sure I've go everything.


I checked Mocrosoft.com, cnn.com, tvguide.com, weather.com, adobe.com
and uweather.com thet all had hundreds of errors. All their site seem to
work just fine, so much for validator. I did mozilla.org and it was the
only site that passed.

Danny


So much for validator?

The validator checks to see if the code that makes up the HTML/CSS is
correct. If it's not correct, it generates a validation warning/error.

If it's not correct, it's not correct. There are no two way about this.

The fact that a web site appears to function correctly doesn't mean the
HTML/CSS has no problems. Some problems can be big and some can be small.
Some will affect only certain browsers, some will affect only certain parts
of the application, etc.

Are you really saying that if the site appears to work to your standards
even with validation errors, that the validator has no value?

The validator is good for people that know about and want to check to 
see how well they have written their code. So that they know it will 
work with *Any* Browser. However, There are many don't even know about 
W3C let a lone about the validator. Many professionals.


For example Adobe's Forums have moved from WebX to Jive ClearSpace. and 
talk about a train wreck. there is no way that is even remotely 
validates with the validator.


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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/24/2009 2:37 PM, Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 12/24/2009 9:35 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 JeffM wrote:
 Danny Kile wrote:
 I use a program called Local Website Archive.

 http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm

 I find it fascinating that the website for a company in that business
 doesn't pass muster:
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm
 5 Errors

 Compare:
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modified.html

 Who says that Company Web Designers (whether in house or paid) pay one
 whit attention about W3C specifications.

 Granted the ones the are here have had it hammered in their head. I'd be
 very surprised if MS, Adobe, Intuit if you were check theirs would be. 5
 error is not a heck of a lot.

 On my own site I've spent literally months (not every day and not every
 minute) re working mine to be W#C compliant to at least XML (XHTML) 1.0.
 Transitional spec. And I still not sure I've go everything.

 I checked Mocrosoft.com, cnn.com, tvguide.com, weather.com, adobe.com 
 and uweather.com thet all had hundreds of errors. All their site seem to 
 work just fine, so much for validator. I did mozilla.org and it was the 
 only site that passed.

 Danny
 
 So much for validator?
 
 The validator checks to see if the code that makes up the HTML/CSS is
 correct. If it's not correct, it generates a validation warning/error.
 
 If it's not correct, it's not correct. There are no two way about this.
 
 The fact that a web site appears to function correctly doesn't mean the
 HTML/CSS has no problems. Some problems can be big and some can be small.
 Some will affect only certain browsers, some will affect only certain parts
 of the application, etc.
 
 Are you really saying that if the site appears to work to your standards
 even with validation errors, that the validator has no value?
 

Some Web pages cannot be appropriately displayed by Gecko browsers.
Although Gecko browsers might possibly now hold a greater share of the
market than IE, there are still Web authors using Micro$oft tools to
create pages.

When complaining to the site's owner (who is not necessarily the
author), citing the W3C specifications and the number of errors found by
W3C validators can provide excellent support for the complaint.

Errors found by the validator might indicate that the site is
inaccessible to the handicapped.  If the Web site is based in the U.S.
and is commercial, such inaccessibility violates the Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA); this too is excellent support for the complaint.
 If the site is owned by a U.S. federal agency, inaccessibility means
the site violates Section 508 of the U.S. Rehabilitation Act of 1986 (as
amended in 1998), also excellent support for the complaint.  From my
personal experience, it is not necessary to prove that the Web site is
actually inaccessible to the handicapped and violates either the ADA or
Rehabilitation Act of 1986; I have obtained corrective action merely by
suggesting there might be violations.

There is another aspect to the W3C validators, both the HTML/XHTML
validator and the CSS validator.  When someone complains that there is a
bug in Firefox or SeaMonkey because the browser fails to render a Web
page appropriately, the complaint is easily dismissed when the
validators find errors in the page.  After all, garbage in does indeed
often result in garbage out.

(NOTE:  When I say appropriately, I mean as the Web author intended.)

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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: SM2.0.1 and extensions

2009-12-24 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/23/2009 7:47 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 12/23/2009 07:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
...


I've got PrefBar 4.3.1 installed and running fine. Lightning is an older
nightly, I'll try installing the beta release and see how it works.
Forms history also updated for me to 1.1.4. SM 2.0.1 haas yet to crash
since I installed it, on two machines.

Lee


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

Prefbar 4.3.2

No issues.



I updated both Prefbar and Lightning, so far so good but small sample size.

   Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

With Prefbar 4.3.2.

Phillp, try here for the Lightning rc:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1rc1/mac/

Lee


Is it possibly a Mac-specific issue?  That is, is it possible that some
of the extensions don't work right on a Mac?

I have the following:
* Adblock Plus 1.1.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
* Flashblock 1.3.15 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* PrefBar 4.3.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3 (https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird
 /addon/6143/)
plus some that came automatically with SeaMonkey.

These are all running okay on my PC with Windows XP SP2 and
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
  Gecko/20091206 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

I plan to install PrefBar 4.3.2 tonight.

I really can't say all I know is since I removed Prefbar and Lightning I 
have been crash free. and with them installed I was crashing about every 
10 minutes.  I sent reports on 3 of them and used my email address.


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Re: off line view of web sites

2009-12-24 Thread Danny Kile

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 12/24/2009 9:35 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

JeffM wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I use a program called Local Website Archive.

http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm


I find it fascinating that the website for a company in that business
doesn't pass muster:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.aignes.com/lwa.htm
5 Errors

Compare:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modified.html


Who says that Company Web Designers (whether in house or paid) pay one
whit attention about W3C specifications.

Granted the ones the are here have had it hammered in their head. I'd be
very surprised if MS, Adobe, Intuit if you were check theirs would be. 5
error is not a heck of a lot.

On my own site I've spent literally months (not every day and not every
minute) re working mine to be W#C compliant to at least XML (XHTML) 1.0.
Transitional spec. And I still not sure I've go everything.


I checked Mocrosoft.com, cnn.com, tvguide.com, weather.com, adobe.com
and uweather.com thet all had hundreds of errors. All their site seem to
work just fine, so much for validator. I did mozilla.org and it was the
only site that passed.

Danny


So much for validator?

The validator checks to see if the code that makes up the HTML/CSS is
correct. If it's not correct, it generates a validation warning/error.

If it's not correct, it's not correct. There are no two way about this.

The fact that a web site appears to function correctly doesn't mean the
HTML/CSS has no problems. Some problems can be big and some can be small.
Some will affect only certain browsers, some will affect only certain parts
of the application, etc.

Are you really saying that if the site appears to work to your standards
even with validation errors, that the validator has no value?

I am saying there are always more that one way to do the same thing no 
matter what you are doing.

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Re: SM2.0.1 and extensions

2009-12-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/23/2009 7:47 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 12/23/2009 07:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
...


I've got PrefBar 4.3.1 installed and running fine. Lightning is an
older
nightly, I'll try installing the beta release and see how it works.
Forms history also updated for me to 1.1.4. SM 2.0.1 haas yet to crash
since I installed it, on two machines.

Lee


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

Prefbar 4.3.2

No issues.



I updated both Prefbar and Lightning, so far so good but small sample
size.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

With Prefbar 4.3.2.

Phillp, try here for the Lightning rc:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1rc1/mac/

Lee


Is it possibly a Mac-specific issue? That is, is it possible that some
of the extensions don't work right on a Mac?

I have the following:
* Adblock Plus 1.1.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
* Flashblock 1.3.15 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* PrefBar 4.3.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3 (https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird
/addon/6143/)
plus some that came automatically with SeaMonkey.

These are all running okay on my PC with Windows XP SP2 and
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

I plan to install PrefBar 4.3.2 tonight.


I really can't say all I know is since I removed Prefbar and Lightning I
have been crash free. and with them installed I was crashing about every
10 minutes. I sent reports on 3 of them and used my email address.



Try creating a test profile, and install Prefbar and Lightning, then the 
others, one by one and test.  I have all those extensions and remain 
crash free.


Lee
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Re: SM2.0.1 and extensions

2009-12-24 Thread Leonidas Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 12/23/2009 07:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
...


I've got PrefBar 4.3.1 installed and running fine. Lightning is an older
nightly, I'll try installing the beta release and see how it works.
Forms history also updated for me to 1.1.4. SM 2.0.1 haas yet to crash
since I installed it, on two machines.

Lee


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

Prefbar 4.3.2

No issues.



I updated both Prefbar and Lightning, so far so good but small sample size.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

With Prefbar 4.3.2.

Phillp, try here for the Lightning rc:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1rc1/mac/

Lee


I don't thinnk do.  I am running all the extensions Phillip listed, and 
Lightning and Prefbar.  I updated to the latest versions, and no 
problems at all so far.  SeaMonkey 2.0.1 has yet to crash since ai 
installed it.


Lee
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Re: SM2.0.1 and extensions

2009-12-24 Thread NoOp
On 12/24/2009 03:33 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/23/2009 7:47 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 12/23/2009 07:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
 ...

 I've got PrefBar 4.3.1 installed and running fine. Lightning is an older
 nightly, I'll try installing the beta release and see how it works.
 Forms history also updated for me to 1.1.4. SM 2.0.1 haas yet to crash
 since I installed it, on two machines.

 Lee

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
 Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

 Prefbar 4.3.2

 No issues.


 I updated both Prefbar and Lightning, so far so good but small sample size.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
 Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

 With Prefbar 4.3.2.

 Phillp, try here for the Lightning rc:

 ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1rc1/mac/

 Lee

 Is it possibly a Mac-specific issue?  That is, is it possible that some
 of the extensions don't work right on a Mac?

 I have the following:
 * Adblock Plus 1.1.2 (http://adblockplus.org/)
 * Flashblock 1.3.15 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
 * PrefBar 4.3.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
 * Show Password On Input 0.1.3 (https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird
  /addon/6143/)
 plus some that came automatically with SeaMonkey.

 These are all running okay on my PC with Windows XP SP2 and
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
   Gecko/20091206 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

 I plan to install PrefBar 4.3.2 tonight.

 I really can't say all I know is since I removed Prefbar and Lightning I 
 have been crash free. and with them installed I was crashing about every 
 10 minutes.  I sent reports on 3 of them and used my email address.
 

What are the report links?

about:crashes

Right click on the crash ID and post the link(s).

Sample:
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-be19f3ef-123e-437f-b503-8ba142091001

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Re: Happens every Year .

2009-12-24 Thread NoOp
On 12/24/2009 04:09 PM, Daniel wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 12/24/2009 12:32 PM, question wrote:
 Merry Xmas to all

 In the USA there is a template for this:

 
 To My Democrat  Friends:

 Please accept with no  obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes
 for an environmentally conscious,  socially responsible, low-stress,
 non-addictive, gender-neutral  celebration of the winter solstice
 holiday, practiced within  the most enjoyable traditions of the
 religious persuasion of  your choice, or secular practices of your
 choice, with respect  for the religious/secular persuasion and/or
 traditions of others, or  their choice not to practice religious or
 secular traditions at  all. I also wish you a fiscally successful,
 personally fulfilling and medically  uncomplicated recognition of the
 onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2010,  but not without due
 respect for the calendars of choice of other  cultures whose
 contributions to society have helped make America  great. Not to imply
 that America is necessarily greater than any  other country nor the only
 America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without
 regard to the  race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious
 faith, familiar status, or  sexual orientation of the wished.


 To My Republican  Friends:

 Merry Christmas and a Happy  New Year!
 

 :-) Happy Holidays to all :-)

 
 celebration of the winter solsticedoesn't that give undue emphasis 
 to the Druids??
 

That does indeed! I shall file a bug report for that, and the fact the
other political parties (Independents et al) were left out of the
template; or more to the point perphaps that political parties were
mentioned at all! Good catch - thanks :-)


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Re: SM2.0.1 and extensions

2009-12-24 Thread NoOp
On 12/24/2009 05:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 I really can't say all I know is since I removed Prefbar and Lightning I
 have been crash free. and with them installed I was crashing about every
 10 minutes.  I sent reports on 3 of them and used my email address.


 What are the report links?

 about:crashes

 Right click on the crash ID and post the link(s).

 Sample:
 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-be19f3ef-123e-437f-b503-8ba142091001

 
 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-408f3ae8-02ec-464f-ac54-1965a2091224
 
 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-dc4f783f-3fe1-4926-81ca-9c3372091223
 
 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-68e79e92-f679-47b9-a0bc-54c9f2091223
 
 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-68e79e92-f679-47b9-a0bc-54c9f2091223
 
 This last one is from when I installed 2.0 gold to replace 2.0 RC2
 
 I dismissed several without reporting.
 

I see that you were running a pre RC of lighting (1.0b2pre), can you try
the one that David suggested instead?

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1rc1/mac/

Let's see if that was the problem. Then, can you just try the most
recent prefbar (4.3.2)? It would be nice to try and determine which may
have been the issue. I also notice that you have another '0.3' extension
- can you clarify as to what that one is?


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