Re: invoke composer
Mark Hansen schrieb: On 1/13/2010 4:18 PM, JeffM wrote: Rick Merrill schrieb: Is there a fix to the registry to make .HTM or .HTML files edit with Composer? Martin Freitag wrote: Why registry already? Have you tried editing FolderOptions = FileTypes already? There you can edit the Open and Edit commands etc. Under Windoze, where is it that you think those settings are stored? ...regardless of *how* they are changed. I think Martin was just suggesting that it would be easier to change them using the Windows File Type UI than going directly through the registry. Exactly. Unexperienced people tend to destroy things there and as there is a clicky-clicky solution build-in, why not use it before finding akward keys stored in the deep waters of the registry... (yeah I know, it's not that deep in this case, but life can be easier here ;-)) regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and DirecTV login???
Devils_Advocate schrieb: DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown, and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to login. You need to be wayyy more specific please. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2
Leonidas Jones schrieb: Ray_Net wrote: Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE. All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18. BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess. It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts. But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Addressbook Problem
Hi, I have a problem withe the addressbook in SM 2.0.2 running on Macosx 10.5.8 I have several email lists defined in my addressbook each with tens of email addresses When I select one of these lists then properties the cursor goes to the bottom of the list so I can add a new name However I cannot reposition the cursor on an existing name in order to delete that name from the list - I simply cannot get the cursor to move from the bottom empty line any suggestions Thanks Chris ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.2 Update
On Jan 11, 7:42 pm, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process, SeaMonkey 2.0.2 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free download fromwww.seamonkey-project.org. We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey and old suite users upgrade to this latest release. If you already have SeaMonkey 2.0, you will receive an automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. This update can also be applied manually by selecting Check for Updates... from the Help menu. For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey 2.0.2 Release Notes. Note: All SeaMonkey 1.x and old Mozilla or Netscape suite users are encouraged to upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.0.x by downloading it fromwww.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-01-11 Downloads for all available platforms and languages:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.2 System Requirements:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Hallo, I answered yes to the automatically generated pop-up question whether I wanted to update to the newest version of SM 2.0.x, installed the update automatically (by SeaMonkey's installation automatic procedures) and cannot use SeaMonkey any more since this update has finished. What went wrong? I need SeaMonkey urgently, since my e-mail folders are stored under SeaMonkey and I have access only to a limited number of recent mails via a webmail tool. Claus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Pop ups
jim wrote: jim wrote: How doe's on get rid of POP Ups;requesting user name Passwords? jim PS Sorry I'm Using Mozilla. Jim, if only you had asked this question in the m.s.seamonkey group where you have been annoying me, and others, by just posting jim posts all over the place. Jim, I'm not sure of the answer to your question, so I have set a cross-post for this post and set the follow-up back to mozilla.support.seamonkey, where I'm sure someone has an answer to your question. Cross post and follow up set. -- Seasons greeting, one and all and may this year be a better one! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Form Managers / Fillers
MikeyG wrote: Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers Add-Ons that are out there? I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay with SM any longer. Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time Usage Criteria' has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then, unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any data here in the last week or so. I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird. I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form, on any site? Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well, functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG I agree totally - bring back Form Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.2 Update
Claus wrote: On Jan 11, 7:42 pm, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process, SeaMonkey 2.0.2 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free download fromwww.seamonkey-project.org. We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey and old suite users upgrade to this latest release. If you already have SeaMonkey 2.0, you will receive an automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. This update can also be applied manually by selecting Check for Updates... from the Help menu. For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey 2.0.2 Release Notes. Note: All SeaMonkey 1.x and old Mozilla or Netscape suite users are encouraged to upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.0.x by downloading it fromwww.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-01-11 Downloads for all available platforms and languages:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.2 System Requirements:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Hallo, I answered yes to the automatically generated pop-up question whether I wanted to update to the newest version of SM 2.0.x, installed the update automatically (by SeaMonkey's installation automatic procedures) and cannot use SeaMonkey any more since this update has finished. What went wrong? I need SeaMonkey urgently, since my e-mail folders are stored under SeaMonkey and I have access only to a limited number of recent mails via a webmail tool. Claus What do you mean when you say you can't use SeaMonkey any more? Does it just not open at all? Or does the browser component open, byt not Mail/News? While we need more information about what is happening to give better help, my first thought is to download the complete installer and try installing it again. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Installing SM v.2.x in a HD Partition OTHER Than c:\
Daniel wrote: HenriK wrote: HenriK wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:42:18 -0500, HenriK bedp...@attglobal.net wrote: HenriK wrote: My memory is that a workaround was required when one wanted to have SM v.1.x installed in a HD partition other than c:\. Does SM v.2.x also require some sort of a workaround if one desires it to be installed in a HD partition other than c:\? If so, where do I find the instructions for the workaround? Thanks in advance for the assistance. I am very appreciative of the good advice but I still am not doing something right or am a bit thick in the head. I copied the original profile location under 'Documents and Settings' on my c:\ drive (all of the stuff in the folder that has what appears to be a randomly generated name) and then pasted it to the partition where I really want these files to reside. I further pointed SeaMonkey e-mail to the new location. What has happened is quite weird. The mail now goes to the new location but the address book and the bookmarks (and perhaps other things) have remained in the original 'Documents and Settings' folder on my c:\ drive. Can anybody suggest what I might have done wrong and suggest a fix for the problem? Thanks, in advance, for suggestions and comments. The following is the memo I left myself after I upped to SM2 .0 on my C: drive and then moved my SM 1.18 profile on my D: drive to a new folder on the D: drive for SM 2.0. + + + + + + Moving SM2 Profile SM newsgp I successfully moved my SM2 profile from under XP on my C: drive to my D: drive where I keep all my data files. Took me only 3 installs to get it right! [grin] First thing was to clean up old SM files under XP. That included uninstalling SM1.1.18 and deleting the SM2 profile that had been created when I tried a beta copy of SM2 (location - C:\Documents and Settings\John W\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles) Install of SM2 was easy including importing all my SM1.1.18 profile info that was on my D: drive. I then created a new directory on my D: drive for the SM2 profile (I labeled it moz). With SM2 running again, I hit Tools|Switch Profile and clicked to create a new profile. I selected my new D:\moz as the location and named the new profile (JW for me). Closed SM. Using Win Explorer, I copied my SM1 profile files under D:\nsp to the new SM2 profile location, D:\moz. That is: I copied everything under that crazy code number (that Netscape assigned when I first set-up that profile) D:\nsp\jw\6tw0u8b7.slt to D\moz. Exited Explorer. Restarted SM2 and all my old profile info came up just fine with Browser, Mail, Addresses all looking and acting just like SM1. After that, I did clean up - went back to Tools|Switch Profile and deleted the default profile that was set up when I first installed SM2. + + + + + + Lacking any other suggestion, I tried to follow your approach. Since I had started with a clean SM v.2.0.1 install, copied all of the messed up profile information to a CD-R and deleted the profile folders from both my c:\ partition 'Documents and Settings' directory (folder) and from the partition and directory where I tried to move the profiles. I then tried to restart SM. It would NOT restart and returned the error message: SeaMonkey is already running but is not responding. To open an new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. As I noted previously in response to an earlier suggestion that I don't understand what it means to ... close the existing SeaMonkey process ... and I don't see any SeaMonkey processes running when I do contr-alt-del, I gave up and completely deleted the SM v.2.01 installation with the Control Panel program removal capability. To make certain that SM was completely gone, I also ran Norton WinDoctor 2005 twice and it found several SM-related registry entries and I deleted those as well. I then cold booted the system and downloaded a new copy of the SM v.2.0.2 installer. The installer reported that SM v.2.0.2 was installed. When I tried to open SM it would not open and I again received the error message: SeaMonkey is already running but is not responding. To open an new window, you must first close the existing SeaMonkey process, or restart your system. I have now repeated the same total delete and new install process exactly as indicated above twice and each time get the same error message. I have been around since the MS-DOS days and, to some degree, know how to recognize the existence of files within a directory (folder). The only thing I can think of is that SM has left behind some hidden file somewhere that I can't see and/or don't know where to find so it can be removed. It would really be appreciated if someone could provide some suggestions on what has caused this error message problem and how to get out of it. I am way out of my depth. Once I can get SM to run
Re: Form Managers / Fillers
Tom Pamin wrote: MikeyG wrote: Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers Add-Ons that are out there? I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay with SM any longer. Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time Usage Criteria' has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then, unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any data here in the last week or so. I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird. I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form, on any site? Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well, functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG I agree totally - bring back Form Manager The best Forms Manager Add on is: Forms History Manager Its not nearly as full featured (developers of SM wouldn't know, they never looked at the one in 1.1.8) But it will do. I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other. Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or needs. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. That's how unix works. It does what you say and if you say delete this hard drive, it does so without asking silly questions like are you sure?. 'tis not such a silly question, for people who never use it. or are just getting started. Now if you have run UNIX 20 years or more, you should know all the commands, and therefore you will never make a mistake. (or would it be possible?) From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. If you follow the thread on the issue the vast majority of poster don't want it removed. But the vast majority of the developers posting to same thread are bound and determined to get it done. Some say it will be just for testing purposes then when the real thing comes out it will be put back. They say that, then when it comes to rolout of end user version . opps , oh we forgot to put that back in. while under their breath they are are saying under their breath (ha!Ha!ha1 we fooled you good didn't we.) Or in other words: For Windows problems reboot, for Unix problems be root ;-) If the final solution really will be a command line switch, then it should be possible to fork the old dialogs and hook them up somehow to the new interface, but let's wait for the final solution. There are already many *real* problems/bugs in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, which should be fixed. CU Manuel -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.2 on Snow Leopard - Mail Folders Problem
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/13/2010 2:41 PM, Lynn Q wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Lynn Q schrieb: I can confirm that the problem folders are definitely not resident on the webmail account. These are old and haven't been used for a year or more, since SeaMonkey, or ThunderBird, were last installed. TB is no longer installed but I remember I had the same issue with folders as well when I tried TB3. Therefore, these problem folders are being pulled from an old profile. How do I go about creating a new profile? Use the profile manager, it's pretty straight-forward and can be found in the tools menu in seamonkey and in the windows startmenu. In case you need additional guidance for it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager Then how do I remove all these old profiles that are obviously causing issues. What path do I need to follow to resolve this? Profile Locations can be found here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey Don't get frightened, the texts handle Seamonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird, it's not that much. If there are still questions left afterwards, feel free to ask. regards Martin Hi again, Well, I set up a new profile, I still have the same problem, i.e., all the old, unused, previously deleted folders are still showing up. Therefore, I think it's a .Mac server issue. They seem to be still resident but not visible to me on the server. The error message I get here in SM is: Alert. The current command did not succeed. The mail server responded:Mailbox does not exist. OK. I've tried Unsubscribing from any one of these folders and it's still a problem. Therefore, I assume I need to follow-up with Apple and my .Mac account. If I solve it then I'll post back to the group. Unless someone has any other suggestions? Thanks again! Lynn I wonder if your IMAP server settings are correct. I don't have SM 2.X, but do use SM 1.1.X with an IMAP account. On the Server Settings page of your Mail Newsgroup account settings, there is an Advanced button. Can you make sure your IMAP server directory is correct? My IMAP server directory is set to /home/meh/Mail, which is the correct location for my IMAP server (it's on a Linux server). Also, I have checked: - Show only subscribed folders - Server supports folders that contain sub-folders and messages; - Use IDLE command if the server supports it Do you still have 1.1.18 installed and is it working? If so, can you compare the IMAP server settings with the old version - just to see if something got corrupted during the migration/setup of the new account? Good luck. Hello again, I chatted with Apple for over 2 hours last evening and nothing was resolved. They checked my account and couldn't see these old folders anywhere. SM 2.0.2 was a new install, I hadn't used it for several months but decided to try it again. I like it except for this mail folders problem. I know I tried TB3 and had the same issue with the folders as I now have here. I did check that I was using the .me account and that it had the correct settings for the servers. It doesn't matter if I use .me or .mac I get the same problem. I even did a new install on my MacBook Pro and the exact same problem happens! I still suspect that it's something hiding on the servers but Apple said they delved deep into the servers and couldn't find anything. I sent them a list of the current and old folders and they couldn't see the old (removed) folders. Now I have an additional glitch in that one of my current (active) mail folders is not being recognised. Just keeps getting stranger. The error message to this subscribed folder is: Alert. The current command did not succeed. The mail server responded:[TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist. OK. I had recently backed up all my .mac (.me) account to local folders. Presently there are not too many messages on othere so that helps. Therefore I think I'll move all the current messages temporarily over to my Inbox and then remove the mail folders from the webmail side. See if that has any impact. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again! Lynn ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.2 on Snow Leopard - Mail Folders Problem - Solved!
LynnQ wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/13/2010 2:41 PM, Lynn Q wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Lynn Q schrieb: I can confirm that the problem folders are definitely not resident on the webmail account. These are old and haven't been used for a year or more, since SeaMonkey, or ThunderBird, were last installed. TB is no longer installed but I remember I had the same issue with folders as well when I tried TB3. Therefore, these problem folders are being pulled from an old profile. How do I go about creating a new profile? Use the profile manager, it's pretty straight-forward and can be found in the tools menu in seamonkey and in the windows startmenu. In case you need additional guidance for it: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager Then how do I remove all these old profiles that are obviously causing issues. What path do I need to follow to resolve this? Profile Locations can be found here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey Don't get frightened, the texts handle Seamonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird, it's not that much. If there are still questions left afterwards, feel free to ask. regards Martin Hi again, Well, I set up a new profile, I still have the same problem, i.e., all the old, unused, previously deleted folders are still showing up. Therefore, I think it's a .Mac server issue. They seem to be still resident but not visible to me on the server. The error message I get here in SM is: Alert. The current command did not succeed. The mail server responded:Mailbox does not exist. OK. I've tried Unsubscribing from any one of these folders and it's still a problem. Therefore, I assume I need to follow-up with Apple and my .Mac account. If I solve it then I'll post back to the group. Unless someone has any other suggestions? Thanks again! Lynn I wonder if your IMAP server settings are correct. I don't have SM 2.X, but do use SM 1.1.X with an IMAP account. On the Server Settings page of your Mail Newsgroup account settings, there is an Advanced button. Can you make sure your IMAP server directory is correct? My IMAP server directory is set to /home/meh/Mail, which is the correct location for my IMAP server (it's on a Linux server). Also, I have checked: - Show only subscribed folders - Server supports folders that contain sub-folders and messages; - Use IDLE command if the server supports it Do you still have 1.1.18 installed and is it working? If so, can you compare the IMAP server settings with the old version - just to see if something got corrupted during the migration/setup of the new account? Good luck. Hello again, I chatted with Apple for over 2 hours last evening and nothing was resolved. They checked my account and couldn't see these old folders anywhere. SM 2.0.2 was a new install, I hadn't used it for several months but decided to try it again. I like it except for this mail folders problem. I know I tried TB3 and had the same issue with the folders as I now have here. I did check that I was using the .me account and that it had the correct settings for the servers. It doesn't matter if I use .me or .mac I get the same problem. I even did a new install on my MacBook Pro and the exact same problem happens! I still suspect that it's something hiding on the servers but Apple said they delved deep into the servers and couldn't find anything. I sent them a list of the current and old folders and they couldn't see the old (removed) folders. Now I have an additional glitch in that one of my current (active) mail folders is not being recognised. Just keeps getting stranger. The error message to this subscribed folder is: Alert. The current command did not succeed. The mail server responded:[TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist. OK. I had recently backed up all my .mac (.me) account to local folders. Presently there are not too many messages on othere so that helps. Therefore I think I'll move all the current messages temporarily over to my Inbox and then remove the mail folders from the webmail side. See if that has any impact. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again! Lynn Well, here's what I hope is my final update! I removed all the mail folders (except the system ones) on the mobileme webmail side. I re-loaded SM, checked the folder subscriptions and unsubscribed to all the folders that were now deleted. This cleared the list on SM back to the system folders. Checked over in Apple Mail 4 to make sure this was the same situation there. It was. Now I go back to SM and load it again, having exited before going to Mail. Everything still looks good. I set up a new folder. It's fine on SM, checked Mail, it's good there as well. Now I set up a new folder in Apple Mail and it shows up in SM. I still don't know what the root cause of this problem was. I am just happy that the folders are back to what they should be and only the current ones are now available. I refreshed the list of folders in SM subscriptions and they all look good. I
Re: Seamonkey and DirecTV login???
On 1/14/2010 12:21 AM, Martin Freitag wrote: Devils_Advocate schrieb: DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown, and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to login. You need to be wayyy more specific please. regards Martin Well, I just tried it too, and found that the browser just sits there. The login dialog has a small spinner which shows that it's still working, but the browser throbber isn't moving. I tried spoofing Firefox (using User Agent Switcher), but this didn't seem to help. The Error Console shows a long list of warnings, but no errors. It sure seems like the JavaScript got hosed and the page is just stranded. At this point, the login dialog has been sitting there for about 5 minutes, so I don't think it's going to work. Can anyone try this with Firefox? - perhaps that will react differently than just spoofing Firefox with SM. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Q about mail/news sorting
Il 14/01/10 01:00, Bill Davidsen ha scritto: Andrea Govoni wrote: This is true for e-mails but not for newsgroups messages, AFAIK. So what's the point of having Sort by -- Received even for newsgroups and what does it actually do for newsgroups messages? It seems a bug to me. Seems to sort by the date received on the server. I'm not sure that's totally useful, but each article in a group is assigned a consecutive number in ascending order, so this sort is possible. This makes sense, thank you very much. FWIW, I think that all the details of the various sorting options that came out of this discussion should be available in the integrated SeaMonkey Help. At this time, they aren't. Do you think it is worth a bug report? -- Andrea XFox Govoni AIM/iChat/ICQ: x...@mac.com Yahoo! ID: xfox82 Skype Name: draykan PGP KeyID: 0x212E69C1 Fingerprint: FBE1 CA7D 34BE 4A53 9639 5C36 B7A0 605F 212E 69C1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2
Martin Freitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: Ray_Net wrote: Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE. All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18. BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess. It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts. But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them. regards That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i don't remember :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM2 mail will not restore to secondary monitor
I always run SeaMonkey with all its major windows (mail and browser) maximized on my secondary monitor. In SM 1.1 and earlier, if I closed Seamonkey and opened it again, the windows would always open maximized on my secondary monitor (as they should). On SM2, this works for the browser windows, but the main mail window will always open on the primary monitor, which is very annoying. Does anybody else see this? If not, what is the arrangement of your monitors? For me, the secondary monitor is to the left of the primary monitor (negative x-coordinates). This is on Windows XP SP3, by the way. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2
Ray_Net wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: Ray_Net wrote: Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE. All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18. BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess. It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts. But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them. regards That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i don't remember :-) In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and Mail in that order. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Form Managers / Fillers
On 1/14/2010 8:16 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: MikeyG wrote: Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers Add-Ons that are out there? I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay with SM any longer. Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time Usage Criteria' has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Times' boxes, jus' in case, and then, unchecked the boxes and then, closed Form History. I haven't lost any data here in the last week or so. I have used FireForm before, but a few times I'd open FF and it would not be in the Tools menu. Coincidentally, I would notice that my ZoneAlarm Browser Security Toolbar, I have it as an icon in the bottom right of FF, would not pop up its dialog to save a file when I would download something, as it had in the past, at times when FireForm was also, missing from the Tools menu. .. Weird. I am now, trying the Form Saver; tried it once on only, 1 site so far. I am not sure that I fully, understand its capabilities, yet. I mean, will it fill in forms, or offer me the data to select to fill out any form, on any site? Where are the Folks that originally, coded SM1's great, well, functioning, user friendly, Form Manager?! If you are out there within the view of this post, could ya' please, code an Add-On identical to the SM1's Form Manager ... please?! - MikeyG I agree totally - bring back Form Manager The best Forms Manager Add on is: Forms History Manager Its not nearly as full featured (developers of SM wouldn't know, they never looked at the one in 1.1.8) But it will do. I've resigned myself to admit. as much fussing and gnashing of teeth we users do a bout a missing feature it goes in one ear and out the other. Developers, Develop, and have no interest in what the end user wants or needs. Yes,it's handy to have access to the data. I'm also, interested in user's opinions on form filling addons? I noticed there were a bunch of 'Form' addons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. That's how unix works. It does what you say and if you say delete this hard drive, it does so without asking silly questions like are you sure?. 'tis not such a silly question, for people who never use it. or are just getting started. Now if you have run UNIX 20 years or more, you should know all the commands, and therefore you will never make a mistake. (or would it be possible?) From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. If you follow the thread on the issue the vast majority of poster don't want it removed. But the vast majority of the developers posting to same thread are bound and determined to get it done. Some say it will be just for testing purposes then when the real thing comes out it will be put back. They say that, then when it comes to rolout of end user version . opps , oh we forgot to put that back in. while under their breath they are are saying under their breath (ha!Ha!ha1 we fooled you good didn't we.) Or in other words: For Windows problems reboot, for Unix problems be root ;-) If the final solution really will be a command line switch, then it should be possible to fork the old dialogs and hook them up somehow to the new interface, but let's wait for the final solution. There are already many *real* problems/bugs in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, which should be fixed. CU Manuel It is true that for old line Mac OS users, those who began with Mac Classic OS's, the Terminal is a very, very foreign concept. Lee Is it possible/has it happened that a person using Linux ,Unix or even Command line DOS in windows that have 10-20 years experience is capable of making a mistakes and wiping out their drive they are working from? -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Q about mail/news sorting
Andrea Govoni wrote: Il 14/01/10 01:00, Bill Davidsen ha scritto: Andrea Govoni wrote: This is true for e-mails but not for newsgroups messages, AFAIK. So what's the point of having Sort by -- Received even for newsgroups and what does it actually do for newsgroups messages? It seems a bug to me. Seems to sort by the date received on the server. I'm not sure that's totally useful, but each article in a group is assigned a consecutive number in ascending order, so this sort is possible. This makes sense, thank you very much. FWIW, I think that all the details of the various sorting options that came out of this discussion should be available in the integrated SeaMonkey Help. At this time, they aren't. Do you think it is worth a bug report? I have everything setup (even newsgroups) set up to sort on subject, the ascending or descending order. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and DirecTV login???
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/14/2010 12:21 AM, Martin Freitag wrote: Devils_Advocate schrieb: DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown, and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to login. You need to be wayyy more specific please. regards Martin Well, I just tried it too, and found that the browser just sits there. The login dialog has a small spinner which shows that it's still working, but the browser throbber isn't moving. I tried spoofing Firefox (using User Agent Switcher), but this didn't seem to help. The Error Console shows a long list of warnings, but no errors. It sure seems like the JavaScript got hosed and the page is just stranded. At this point, the login dialog has been sitting there for about 5 minutes, so I don't think it's going to work. Can anyone try this with Firefox? - perhaps that will react differently than just spoofing Firefox with SM. I just got to DirectTV Login page popped right in. according to the HTML Validator Extension there are 14 errors and 4 warnings relatively low compared to some others. Didn't try to log-in as I don't have an account, nor do I have a DirectTV Satellite. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. That's how unix works. It does what you say and if you say delete this hard drive, it does so without asking silly questions like are you sure?. 'tis not such a silly question, for people who never use it. or are just getting started. Now if you have run UNIX 20 years or more, you should know all the commands, and therefore you will never make a mistake. (or would it be possible?) From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. If you follow the thread on the issue the vast majority of poster don't want it removed. But the vast majority of the developers posting to same thread are bound and determined to get it done. Some say it will be just for testing purposes then when the real thing comes out it will be put back. They say that, then when it comes to rolout of end user version . opps , oh we forgot to put that back in. while under their breath they are are saying under their breath (ha!Ha!ha1 we fooled you good didn't we.) Or in other words: For Windows problems reboot, for Unix problems be root ;-) If the final solution really will be a command line switch, then it should be possible to fork the old dialogs and hook them up somehow to the new interface, but let's wait for the final solution. There are already many *real* problems/bugs in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, which should be fixed. CU Manuel It is true that for old line Mac OS users, those who began with Mac Classic OS's, the Terminal is a very, very foreign concept. Lee ...heh...us former DOS 1.0 users and FORTRAN coders get the concept, but actually use the Terminal window?..nahhh...not without guidance from above and beyond... ...every time I get confused on a win-doze machine I usually think how would I do this in DOS?..and resolve my problem. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Rufus: ...heh...us former DOS 1.0 users and FORTRAN coders get the concept, but actually use the Terminal window?..nahhh...not without guidance from above and beyond... Interesting. On my Linux with only icewm and no desktop i would be lost without xterm. And lots of it. *g* Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Allow HTML Temp on SM2
Martin Freitag wrote: David Wilkinson schrieb: Does anybody have any information about whether the Allow HTML Temp extension (by Alexander Ihrig) will be modified to run on SM2? Have you asked the author yet? ;-) Probably the most competent person in this case. regards You know how to get in touch with him? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 New Update won't Show weather.com satellite
Sqwertz wrote: On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:21:48 -0600, JD wrote: Sqwertz wrote: Ever since SNM2 updated itself ~36 hours ago (and crashed in the process of updateiong all my machines), the local weather satellite screen at weather.com (the one that you can put into motion zoom in/out) will not render. What was introduced in 2.0.2 that breaks this? My friend turned me on to this map: http://radar.srh.noaa.gov/ It lies. It says it's not raining in or near Austin right now. I know for a fact that it's raining ... like... all day now :-) AdBlock/Easylist does seem to be blocking it for some reason. I'll give it a few days to fix itself before I look into it. -sw I had to disable AdBlock Plus for Weather.com http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/USTX0057?from=today_topnav_Lawn and then things worked OK Have you tried http://www.weather.com/multimedia/videoplayer.html?clip=365 -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2
Leonidas Jones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: Ray_Net wrote: Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE. All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18. BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess. It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts. But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them. regards That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i don't remember :-) In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and Mail in that order. You don't understand i have also the same now. The problem was that after installing SM2 - then uninstall SM1 some item simply vanished. In that situation: what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i don't remember :-) The best way of re-instate all SM2 item was to do : de-install SM2 then re-install SM2. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
In news:f7cdnxxzbk0gmtpwnz2dnuvz_o5i4...@mozilla.org, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: David E. Ross: Bug #214675 proposes to delete the Profile Manager. It is being extensively discussed at mozilla.dev.planning. I've read through the discussion. I think, as I am reading it, there will not be a removal of Profile Manager as we know it, at least not without a workable alternative, hopefully not command line. I agree with you. The comment that set off the thread is B. Smedburg's comment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214675#c40: [patch to] Remove profile manager and named profile support, rev. 1 I want to do this for the 1.9.3 cycle. This removes a fair bit of complexity from nsAppRunner.cpp and related code. This will help make it possible to refactor all our startup code (XPCOM and toolkit) into a single place. It will also make it possible to re-add a well-designed profile system like dmills wants to do for Weave integration that doesn't require application restart. And in the thread at m.d.planning, he says: I believe in having UI so that SUMO can solve end-user problems effectively. There's also M. Beltzner's post in the thread saying: We obviously won't ship a product to users that regresses important functionality that our support teams rely on (as Cheng indicated), but I think we can ship nightly and development builds without a profile manager for a while as long as we correctly document how to achieve the same functionality with command line arguments. As I read it, they may remove the PM GUI for a while, while refactoring the startup stuff goes on. That would affect the nightlies for all toolkit apps during that time. But before anything is released to end-users, there would be GUI for everything the PM currently does; in fact, it looks like there's a chance it would be greatly improved (and possibly integrated with the safe-mode GUI). -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
As I read it, they may remove the PM GUI for a while, while refactoring the startup stuff goes on. That would affect the nightlies for all toolkit apps during that time. Humpf. I hope in this case there will be a possibility for self compiled nightlies to keep the GUI. Perhaps with an instruction in .mozconfig. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Hartmut Figge: [...] With missing reply header and no supersede possible in this group. Hm. Well, here is it. »Q«: Hart dr mut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
In news:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. Using the command line to launch SeaMonkey is pretty safe, since no one is very likely to make a typo that transforms seamonkey into one of the commands that can delete everything on your hard drive. From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually read. Perhaps part of the problem is that you don't actually know who has what responsibilities, so you can't tell who's saying what. Mike Beltzner is the director of the Firefox project, ultimately responsible for what is and isn't in Firefox releases. Talking about the PM GUI, Beltzner says in that thread, We obviously won't ship a product to users that regresses important functionality that our support teams rely on. And obviously, if the PM GUI is available for Fx releases, it will also be available for SeaMonkey releases. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Pop ups
Daniel wrote: jim wrote: jim wrote: How doe's on get rid of POP Ups;requesting user name Passwords? jim PS Sorry I'm Using Mozilla. Jim, if only you had asked this question in the m.s.seamonkey group where you have been annoying me, and others, by just posting jim posts all over the place. Jim, I'm not sure of the answer to your question, so I have set a cross-post for this post and set the follow-up back to mozilla.support.seamonkey, where I'm sure someone has an answer to your question. Cross post and follow up set. Thanks Daniel.jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
In news:4b4fb2cc.1040...@hfigge.myfqdn.de, Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote: As I read it, they may remove the PM GUI for a while, while refactoring the startup stuff goes on. That would affect the nightlies for all toolkit apps during that time. Humpf. I hope in this case there will be a possibility for self compiled nightlies to keep the GUI. Perhaps with an instruction in .mozconfig. As I read it, the old GUI won't work with the new startup stuff, once that work is underway. But there may be some kind of temporary UI frontend for the command-line options, to simplify things for the QA people. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Rufus wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Manuel Reimer wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. That's how unix works. It does what you say and if you say delete this hard drive, it does so without asking silly questions like are you sure?. 'tis not such a silly question, for people who never use it. or are just getting started. Now if you have run UNIX 20 years or more, you should know all the commands, and therefore you will never make a mistake. (or would it be possible?) From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. If you follow the thread on the issue the vast majority of poster don't want it removed. But the vast majority of the developers posting to same thread are bound and determined to get it done. Some say it will be just for testing purposes then when the real thing comes out it will be put back. They say that, then when it comes to rolout of end user version . opps , oh we forgot to put that back in. while under their breath they are are saying under their breath (ha!Ha!ha1 we fooled you good didn't we.) Or in other words: For Windows problems reboot, for Unix problems be root ;-) If the final solution really will be a command line switch, then it should be possible to fork the old dialogs and hook them up somehow to the new interface, but let's wait for the final solution. There are already many *real* problems/bugs in SeaMonkey 2.0.x, which should be fixed. CU Manuel It is true that for old line Mac OS users, those who began with Mac Classic OS's, the Terminal is a very, very foreign concept. Lee ...heh...us former DOS 1.0 users and FORTRAN coders get the concept, but actually use the Terminal window?..nahhh...not without guidance from above and beyond... ...every time I get confused on a win-doze machine I usually think how would I do this in DOS?..and resolve my problem. The most Dangerous thing we had in OS9 which was C+ C++ and objective C was ResEdit when I was using OS 9 and lower All the time I could do things in ResEdit to fix problems. I've bee away from OS9 I wouldn't begin to know how to use it. And when OSX came out using BSD UNIX and FreeBSD UNIX and Terminal I had good sense not to mess with it. I have used it a time or two but only I copy and pasted code I was given. In the Day's of DOS I had to reformat many a Drive, and reinstall software after teachers and student's alike accident typed init at the wrong time. So using a low level command is unrealistic for Mac users. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rufus: ...heh...us former DOS 1.0 users and FORTRAN coders get the concept, but actually use the Terminal window?..nahhh...not without guidance from above and beyond... Interesting. On my Linux with only icewm and no desktop i would be lost without xterm. And lots of it. *g* Hartmut That's the thing. You'd be lost without xterm (Terminal for Linux) is because your use to it. On Mac system while the actual system used is FreeBSD UNIX the Apple Mac Interface does all the UNIX commands and the UNIX is hidden. This was by design. Apple wanted the users to not worry fiddling a futzing with the system. And just be able to get work done with the least amount of worry The way system really ought to be. It silly to have to type a command line in a modern system just to get to something that previously you had a menu choice for. I don't know what all this fascination with using command line stuff to do work. My goodness you were doing that in 1982 and 27 years later you still want to fiddle with command line. I don't find anything geeky, nerdy about it just old and out of fashion. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
»Q« wrote: Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. Using the command line to launch SeaMonkey is pretty safe, since no one is very likely to make a typo that transforms seamonkey into one of the commands that can delete everything on your hard drive. From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually read. Perhaps part of the problem is that you don't actually know who has what responsibilities, so you can't tell who's saying what. Mike Beltzner is the director of the Firefox project, ultimately responsible for what is and isn't in Firefox releases. Talking about the PM GUI, Beltzner says in that thread, We obviously won't ship a product to users that regresses important functionality that our support teams rely on. And obviously, if the PM GUI is available for Fx releases, it will also be available for SeaMonkey releases. He is but one person. there many other there anxious to deep six it asap. Can your 85 year old Grandma trying to use command line to do something that was easy to do. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: /snip/ You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually read. Perhaps part of the problem is that you don't actually know who has what responsibilities, so you can't tell who's saying what. Mike Beltzner is the director of the Firefox project, ultimately responsible for what is and isn't in Firefox releases. Talking about the PM GUI, Beltzner says in that thread, We obviously won't ship a product to users that regresses important functionality that our support teams rely on. And obviously, if the PM GUI is available for Fx releases, it will also be available for SeaMonkey releases. He is but one person. there many other there anxious to deep six it asap. Can your 85 year old Grandma trying to use command line to do something that was easy to do. Okay, where is that coming from Phillip? Have you read the thread in the developer group? I don't think you can support that statement. Even if it is true, Mike Beltzner is a pretty important one person. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
In news:mjqdnfxvpcrqxdlwnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: On Mac system while the actual system used is FreeBSD UNIX the Apple Mac Interface does all the UNIX commands and the UNIX is hidden. Not all of them, by far. It just does the stuff most users will ever need. It silly to have to type a command line in a modern system just to get to something that previously you had a menu choice for. On Macs, does SeaMonkey still install a menu item to launch the profile manager? I don't know what all this fascination with using command line stuff to do work. My goodness you were doing that in 1982 and 27 years later you still want to fiddle with command line. I don't find anything geeky, nerdy about it just old and out of fashion. In some cases, it's used to do things that can't be done with the GUI. It gives a lot more control, though it's certainly fine if that increased control isn't something you want for yourself. In other cases, it's used to quickly do things are more tedious in a GUI. For example, I create a new testing profile and launch the browser by typing four letters, rather than by opening the PM then clicking checkboxes and navigating to where I want the profile stored and all that. GUI users can do the same thing, but it takes them longer, and it would annoy me if the GUI were the only way to do it. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
On 1/14/2010 11:30 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Is it possible/has it happened that a person using Linux ,Unix or even Command line DOS in windows that have 10-20 years experience is capable of making a mistakes and wiping out their drive they are working from? Yes :( I was used to setting alias rm='rm -i' but I was working at a location other than my usual. I entered rm * Quickly realizing what I had done, I then entered CTRL-C But it was too late. I didn't lose all my files, but I lost too many. Fortunately, all accounts were backed-up daily by the system administrators. When I got a shell account on my ISP's Web server in my own address space, one of the first things I did was alias rm='rm -i' I also did the same for cp and mv. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
On 1/14/2010 4:24 PM, »Q« wrote: In news:h4-dnaaw_yrxtnlwnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: That would Be bad for Mac if we had to go to command line as we would have go into UNIX and use terminal. That's something I don't wish to do. In Terminal if you don't know what your doing, you can erase the hard drive in a heart beat without knowing what your doing. Using the command line to launch SeaMonkey is pretty safe, since no one is very likely to make a typo that transforms seamonkey into one of the commands that can delete everything on your hard drive. From what I've been reading on the dev.planning newsgroup. They are bound and determined to do it coming Hxxx or highwater regardless of what users say. You always jump to that conclusion, no matter what you've actually read. Perhaps part of the problem is that you don't actually know who has what responsibilities, so you can't tell who's saying what. Mike Beltzner is the director of the Firefox project, ultimately responsible for what is and isn't in Firefox releases. Talking about the PM GUI, Beltzner says in that thread, We obviously won't ship a product to users that regresses important functionality that our support teams rely on. And obviously, if the PM GUI is available for Fx releases, it will also be available for SeaMonkey releases. As I said before, the replacement for Profile Manager requested in bug #539524 is -- from the Summary, Product, Component, and Description in that bug report -- only for test and triage, not for end users. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile Manager
»Q« wrote: Innews:mjqdnfxvpcrqxdlwnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: On Mac system while the actual system used is FreeBSD UNIX the Apple Mac Interface does all the UNIX commands and the UNIX is hidden. Not all of them, by far. It just does the stuff most users will ever need. It silly to have to type a command line in a modern system just to get to something that previously you had a menu choice for. On Macs, does SeaMonkey still install a menu item to launch the profile manager? I don't know what all this fascination with using command line stuff to do work. My goodness you were doing that in 1982 and 27 years later you still want to fiddle with command line. I don't find anything geeky, nerdy about it just old and out of fashion. In some cases, it's used to do things that can't be done with the GUI. It gives a lot more control, though it's certainly fine if that increased control isn't something you want for yourself. In other cases, it's used to quickly do things are more tedious in a GUI. For example, I create a new testing profile and launch the browser by typing four letters, rather than by opening the PM then clicking checkboxes and navigating to where I want the profile stored and all that. GUI users can do the same thing, but it takes them longer, and it would annoy me if the GUI were the only way to do it. No, there is no menu item to invoke Profile Manager. Either its done in terminal, or by starting SeaMonkey from the Dock, and choosing ToolsSwitch Profile. In SM 1.1.18, one could invoke Profile Manager by holding down the Option Key while clicking the Dock icon. In 2.0.x that invokes Safe-Mode. Since you can get to Profile Manager easily once SM is opened, I like the easy option of getting to Safe Mode. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey and DirecTV login???
Mark Hansen m...@nospamwinfirst.com wrote : On 1/14/2010 12:21 AM, Martin Freitag wrote: Devils_Advocate schrieb: DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown, and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to login. You need to be wayyy more specific please. regards Martin Well, I just tried it too, and found that the browser just sits there. Exactly, spinning the little wheely thing. The login dialog has a small spinner which shows that it's still working, but the browser throbber isn't moving. I tried spoofing Firefox (using User Agent Switcher), but this didn't seem to help. The Error Console shows a long list of warnings, but no errors. It sure seems like the JavaScript got hosed and the page is just stranded. At this point, the login dialog has been sitting there for about 5 minutes, so I don't think it's going to work. Can anyone try this with Firefox? - perhaps that will react differently than just spoofing Firefox with SM. The only way I got logged in, was to use Internet Explorer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote : Devils_Advocate schrieb: Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? SeaMonkey 2.x is well-alive and should work well with most websites out there, I very rarely have any problems. SeaMonkey 1.x is mostly dead though and if you are still using those versions, you probably should switch to 2.0 soon. Robert Kaiser I'd love to, but there's no way of migrating to it from 1.1.18 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2
Ray_Net a écrit : Leonidas Jones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: Ray_Net wrote: Anyway the message i will pass to everybody is: Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2 ... DO IT BEFORE. All I can say is that I installed SM 2.0 without removing SM 1.1.18. BOth currently exist on my XP machine. The StArt menu shortcuts ppoint to SM 2.0., so its not a consistent behavior, I guess. It is. When you remove SM1 now, it will remove most of the shortcuts. But that doesn't hurt that much, just re-create them. regards That's right ... but what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i don't remember :-) In the XP Start menu? I have Profile Manager, Browser, Safe-Mode and Mail in that order. You don't understand i have also the same now. The problem was that after installing SM2 - then uninstall SM1 some item simply vanished. In that situation: what was those missing £%$*! damned shortcuts ... i don't remember :-) The best way of re-instate all SM2 item was to do : de-install SM2 then re-install SM2. in that case I think it was not useful to uninstall SM2 before reinstalling it, and that's what I have done... no problem ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
