Re: Seamonkey2.0.2 and debian 64 bit, no flashplayer

2010-01-25 Thread Lou

Rod Lovett wrote:

Hi
I installed seamonkey 2.0.2 in Debian Lenny 64 bit, and it runs, so-
is it both 32 and 64 bit compatible.
However it will not run the 64 bit libflashplayer.so file downloaded
from adobe in the plugins folder as the 32 bit seamonkey will with the
32 bit file.
I then tried the 32 bit libflashplayer.so, and seamonkey promptly crashed.
I looked on the seamonkey website but nothing terribly helfpul revealed
itself.
So I wonder how to get 64 bit flash working, or even 64 bit java going
or is this still a work in progress. Would symlinks help.
Any non MS folk have any ideas I wonder?
Regards
Rod


The plugin from the Adobe website is 32 bit only.  To get the 64 bit plugin:

wget 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_2.8_amd64.deb


When you install the above package, all it does is download the 64 bit 
version of Flash Player from Macromedia.com.  IIRC, the tar ball will be 
in /var/cache.  Extract libflashplayer.so from there and put it in your 
plugins directory (i.e.: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins).


Lou
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:44:46 +0100, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special 
> effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

To me the FF are either the Famous Five or the Fantastic Four, not some
Red Panda. I mean how many super villains has Firefox fought recently?

Phil

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Re: Seamonkey2.0.2 and debian 64 bit, no flash

2010-01-25 Thread Rod Lovett

Thanx NoOp,
  followed your link and that did the trick,
Seamonkey 64 2.0.3 pre works with flash fine now in debian 64 bit, many 
thanks. I'll keep an eye on the nightly builds now .

Cheers
Rod
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Re: Fix some of the aggravating bugs.. please

2010-01-25 Thread Ralph

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/23/2010 6:25 PM, Ralph wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/23/2010 8:18 AM, Ralph wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/21/2010 8:52 PM, Ralph wrote:

Jim Dell wrote:

Ralph wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/2010 4:12 PM, Ralph wrote:

"C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" %1


You need a separate set of quotes around the %1.


Thanks David.. but
Adding quotes around the %1 does not make it work.. ("C:\Program
Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" "%1")
I changed my default browser to Firefox and the "internet shortcuts"
work just fine. Strangely the data in the Tools>Folder options>\\Edit
has not changed, it still shows SeaMonkey and the path. When I change to
IE as my default browser it changes (and shortcuts work). Changing back
to SeaMonkey as the default writes the correct path back but sadly does
not work.

Any more ideas??

Create a new icon by finding SeaMonkey in your start programs menu and
right clicking on it and then using the Sendto item select create
desktop shortcut.

Jim

Thanks Jim but,
I am confused on how this (shortcut) would open the URL of the site I
want to go to. The shortcut opens SeaMonkey alright but with my default
home page. I do not need a desktop shortcut to do that.


Now that I'm sure of what you want, here is how to get it.

1.  Go to the Web page via SeaMonkey or any other browser.

2.  "Normalize" your browser window.  That is, make it less than
maximized on your desktop.  In the upper-right corner of the window,
there are three buttons.  If the middle button shows a single box, the
window is already normalized.  If the middle button shows two boxes --
one overlapping the other -- left-click on that button.

3.  Drag the edges of the window until it is about half the size of your
desktop.  Drag the title bar (the bar at the very top) to move the
window enough to expose a blank area on your desktop.

4.  Position your cursor on the address area of the Navigation bar,
within the area but to the left of the URI of the Web page.  If
positioned correctly, the cursor should become a hand instead of an arrow.

5.  Hold down the left button of your mouse, drag the hand onto your
desktop, and let go of the left button (dropping the hand).  This should
create an Internet Shortcut to the Web page.

You can then move the Internet Shortcut into a folder.  Alternatively,
you can drag and drop the hand directly into a folder.


Thanks for trying to help David... but let's give up

I make many "favicon" shortcuts... dragging the URL to my desktop where
it makes a shortcut to that specific page. If I am researching something
that I may want to get back to it is an easy way to make a desktop
"visible" bookmark.. and then when the project is finished can be easily
deleted or placed in a reference folder.

My issue is with a bug in SeaMonkey 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 Where when I click
on one of these shortcuts I get a "Windows can not find..." error
message, the page will in fact open and when I close the page the error
message is still there and until accepted (OK) the desktop is
effectively locked.

This "bug" did not exist in version 2.0.0 There can not be any instance
of SeaMonkey running, if there is this bug will not occur and the
shortcuts open normally

If I make my default browser anything other than SeaMonkey the shortcuts
work just fine. (FireFox IE)

If a short cut "you" make in this manner works... while there is no
other instance of SeaMonkey running... then this must be a local
configuration on my system... but in my opinion, still a bug!

But I do appreciate you trying to help me.



My problem is that I can't reproduce your problem.  I just now tried
with an old Internet Shortcut while SeaMonkey was already running, with
an old Internet Shortcut while SeaMonkey was terminated, and with a new
Internet Shortcut while SeaMonkey was terminated.  All three cases worked.

I have one more suggestion.  Try opening (double-click) an HTML file
that is on your desktop.  If you get the same problem with that, then
it's a problem with Windows and not SeaMonkey.


   Clever test..  I copied to my desk top an html file.. and it opens
just fine.


Windows "knows" the correct path to SeaMonkey for opening an HTML file.
  From earlier in this thread, your "File Type" setup for Internet
Shortcuts has the correct path to SeaMonkey.

I surrender!!

So do I... Am thinking A) changing to Firefox and Thunderbird or B) do a 
clean install of SeaMonkey. It may end up being a coin toss, I like the 
"suite" and have used it since day 1 but installing Version 2 gave me 
much grief. Perhaps some of that grief is still around to trouble me now.
In hindsight.. my problem came from the fact I did not have the "normal" 
location for my profile, instead it was on my "D" drive, this confused 
SeaMonkey 2 as it could not find my profile to update.. I had to jump 
through a lot of hoops to finally make it work.. and it seems not at100% 
yet.


Thanks for hanging in and trying to fix my

Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Daniel

Phillip Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.)
The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute. Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee


Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.




You pronounce all three as though they are two words so its logical to
abbreviate using first letter of each part.

Fx could easily mean Fix, or Fax, or Fox. Plus there use to be a piece
of software that That part of the name used FX on the end. I think I'll
continue what everyone thinks is correct FF.



I concur, Phillip.how many times have you seen movie "special 
effects" abbreviated as SFX, so by talking about Fx, we are talking 
about "effects" aren't we??


Daniel
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee


Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.




You pronounce all three as though they are two words so its logical to 
abbreviate using first letter of each part.


Fx could easily mean Fix, or Fax, or Fox. Plus there use to be a piece 
of software that That part of the name used FX on the end. I think I'll 
continue what everyone  thinks is correct FF.


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Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

LCARStrek is, indeed, an acquired taste, but I have acquired it, and it
works very well.

Early Blue is a very nice basic theme. My mother in law really likes it.


Heh, nice! Let me know if you spot bugs - it might take me a while
before I get to work on them, but I tend to look at them when doing
other work on the themes.

Robert Kaiser


Quick thought in RSS feeds.  Other themes I have used display the
article suarry while the actual page is starting to load.  LCARStrek
does not.

Its kind of nice, because I can get a sense of what the article is
about, and whether I really need to read it while a sluggish server is
loading.

Lee


Tried Early Blue didn't like the icons and The text while readable if 
you get up close. is way to small for people with eye glasses would be 
better if text was trice as large.

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Re: Seamonkey2.0.2 and debian 64 bit, no flashplayer

2010-01-25 Thread NoOp
On 01/25/2010 12:45 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 01/24/2010 01:06 AM, Rod Lovett wrote:
>> Hi
>> I installed seamonkey 2.0.2 in Debian Lenny 64 bit, and it runs, so- 
>> is it both 32 and 64 bit compatible.
>> However it will not run the 64 bit libflashplayer.so file downloaded 
>> from adobe in the plugins folder as the 32 bit seamonkey will with the 
>> 32 bit file.
>> I then tried the 32 bit libflashplayer.so, and seamonkey promptly crashed.
>> I looked on the seamonkey website but nothing terribly helfpul revealed 
>> itself.
>>   So I wonder how to get 64 bit flash working, or even 64 bit java going 
>> or is this still a work in progress. Would symlinks help.
>> Any non MS folk have any ideas I wonder?
>> Regards
>> Rod
> 
> You'll need to install the nightly 64bit version:
> 
> [seamonkey-2.0.3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2]
> 
> 

Sorry, forgot to add the info for java:

$ locate libnpjp2.so
$ mkdir /home//.mozilla/plugins/
$ cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/
$ ln -s 
$ ln -l

Example for the last; I have jre version 18 installed in /usr/lib/jvm.
So my link in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ is:
$ ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_18/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so


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Re: Seamonkey2.0.2 and debian 64 bit, no flashplayer

2010-01-25 Thread NoOp
On 01/24/2010 01:06 AM, Rod Lovett wrote:
> Hi
> I installed seamonkey 2.0.2 in Debian Lenny 64 bit, and it runs, so- 
> is it both 32 and 64 bit compatible.
> However it will not run the 64 bit libflashplayer.so file downloaded 
> from adobe in the plugins folder as the 32 bit seamonkey will with the 
> 32 bit file.
> I then tried the 32 bit libflashplayer.so, and seamonkey promptly crashed.
> I looked on the seamonkey website but nothing terribly helfpul revealed 
> itself.
>   So I wonder how to get 64 bit flash working, or even 64 bit java going 
> or is this still a work in progress. Would symlinks help.
> Any non MS folk have any ideas I wonder?
> Regards
> Rod

You'll need to install the nightly 64bit version:

[seamonkey-2.0.3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2]


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Leonidas Jones

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

/snip/


I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee


Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.




It doesn't faze me, as long as I know what application is being referred 
to, all is fine with me.  I think using FF as an abreviation is pretty 
clear, whatever the company line is.


Lee
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Crashes in SeaMonkey v2.0.2 with the latest Flash player plugin?

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Pi

Hello!

I noticed on my old Windows XP Pro. SP3 and new 64-bit Windows 7 HP 
(Dell OEM), SeaMonkey (SM) v2 rarely crashes with Shockwave Flash 10.0 
r42 plugin. Here's a crash reporter dump as an example:


http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b13cbfb4-c09b-430e-84d0-3dc4a2100125 
... I also see in comments that Firefox users are having the same issue?


What's up with that? Is anyone else having this problem in SM too? I 
should have the latest extensions and plugins too.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: seamonkey - java

2010-01-25 Thread Leonidas Jones

Balázs Molnár wrote:

Hello
I am new to seamonkey ... I would like to install seamonkey under Ubuntu Karmic 
from a deb package but I cannot find it ... can you please send me a link where 
can I download it or a repo ...
Furthermore  how can I reach that seamonkey uses the sun java... what are the 
steps of it ?
Many thanks for your help.

  molnarb






It is available in the Ubuntu reposotpries, though its 1.1.18, not the 
newser 2.0.2.


I grabbed the Linux build form the SeaMonkey site and installed it into 
y home folder.  Seems to work pretty well that way.


Lee
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Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-25 Thread Leonidas Jones

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

LCARStrek is, indeed, an acquired taste, but I have acquired it, and it
works very well.

Early Blue is a very nice basic theme. My mother in law really likes it.


Heh, nice! Let me know if you spot bugs - it might take me a while
before I get to work on them, but I tend to look at them when doing
other work on the themes.

Robert Kaiser


Quick thought in RSS feeds.  Other themes I have used display the 
article suarry while the actual page is starting to load.  LCARStrek 
does not.


Its kind of nice, because I can get a sense of what the article is 
aboutr, and whether I really need tor ead it while a sluggish server is 
loading.


Lee
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread NoOp
On 01/24/2010 09:12 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>> ...
> /snip/
>> Firefox = Fx
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html
>> 
>> 8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?
>>
>> Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
>> preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".
>> 
> 
> I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special 
> effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.
> 
> Lee

Yeah. I agree. I only knew of the Fx info as there was a bit of a heated
discussion over on one of the linux lists awhile back about this.


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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/24/2010 05:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
...

/snip/

Firefox = Fx
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.5.html

8. How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The
preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".



I'll never be able to go with that. Too many tho0ughts of special
effects, it just doesn't compute.  Firefox, FF it just makes more sense.

Lee

Way I've always seen it abbreviated. Is  FF

They are all Pronounced as Two words,
Fire-Fox
Sea-Monkey
Thunder-Bird
So I've always abbreviated them as: SM, FF, TB. And If you look on 
Google You  find a lot more people Abbreviating it FF, SM, and TB. I the 
first time I've ever seen a reference to Fx is in NoOP's post above.



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Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-25 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Yes it turns out the theme I was using was the fault. which was the
Orbit 3+1 2.0 is the fault.


Please contact the theme author about that, I'm sure he's happy about
bug reports and willing to fix them in further releases.


Looks I can't find an outside Theme other
than the two SeaMonkey themes that work right.


The quite unusual-looking LCARStrek theme and the EarlyBlue theme should
both work fine - but I guess they don't provide quite the look you qant
to have ;-)

Robert Kaiser


LCARStrek is, indeed, an acquired taste, but I have acquired it, and it
works very well.

Early Blue is a very nice basic theme.  My mother in law really likes it.

Lee

Where do you get in touch with Theme author?
My luck with dealing with theme authors has been not to swift.
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My absolute true favorite is SkyPilot. But it doesn't work at all with 
FF 3.5, and SM 2.0.x in conflicts with QuoteColors. I've sent a note to 
support and on the Newsgroup and Nada for a month or more, Every since I 
tried SM 2.0 as .  I believe his site is abandoned. Yet when others try 
to improve the themes. He puts up a fight. If you don't have the time or 
willingness. Then release them and let others take over.


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Re: Possible minor bug

2010-01-25 Thread Robert Kaiser

Leonidas Jones wrote:

LCARStrek is, indeed, an acquired taste, but I have acquired it, and it
works very well.

Early Blue is a very nice basic theme. My mother in law really likes it.


Heh, nice! Let me know if you spot bugs - it might take me a while 
before I get to work on them, but I tend to look at them when doing 
other work on the themes.


Robert Kaiser
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seamonkey - java

2010-01-25 Thread Balázs Molnár
Hello
I am new to seamonkey ... I would like to install seamonkey under Ubuntu Karmic 
from a deb package but I cannot find it ... can you please send me a link where 
can I download it or a repo ...
Furthermore  how can I reach that seamonkey uses the sun java... what are the 
steps of it ?
Many thanks for your help.

 molnarb



  
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Re: Tools - Message filters Doesnot work

2010-01-25 Thread Bernard Mercier
Phillip Jones vient de nous annoncer :
> Bernard Mercier wrote:
>> Phillip Jones a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :
>>> chicagofan wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
> On 1/23/2010 5:27 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>> That is not true. I use message filters on news groups and do not
>>> have them set for off-line use.
>> Unless things have improved in SM 2.0 in previous versions filters were
>> useless on newsgroups (won't even set post to be marked as read.) And at
>> one time when people asked about it  we were told that filters don't
>> work in News.
>>
>
> That is not true. I'm using SM 1.1.16 at the moment, but I've been using
> filters for News for years.


 I don't know what he was told or misunderstood, but I'm using 2.02 now,
 and I've never had any version of SM mail or newsgroup filters to fail
 for me.

 SM lacked the ability to filter cross-postings for a long awhile, but we
 even have that feature now.
 There is something lacking in communication here it seems.
 bj 


>>> I never could get filtering working in SM 1.1.8. I kept trying as I
>>> upgraded from version to version. I realize you can only set to mark as
>>> read (if you don't download for reading later). Never did get working. I
>>> haven't tried in 2.0 SM as I haven't had the need.
>> SM 1.1.8?
>>
> SM = SeaMonkey
> FF = FireFox
> TB = ThunderBird

> Should have been 1.1.18  Sorry
I did guess 1.1.18 already. ;-)

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