Re: Delays in loading pages

[Rubens]

Lee wrote, on 2010-03-07 02:29:

On 3/6/10, FDVS  wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/5/10 4:33 PM, FDVS wrote:

I find I am waiting for many webpages to load.for 5 seconds plus,
when normally they would be instantaneous.  When they are loading, the
progress strip at the bottom left says either:

partner.googleadservies.com or
google-analytics.com
etc

I suspect these are tracking devices that are slowing things down, is
there anyway to disable them?

Have you considered the AdBlock Plus extension at
?


I tried to install it is not working as advertised.  Could it be due to
this?  (from Adblock website)
Installation in SeaMonkey

"Unfortunately, in SeaMonkey 1.1 and below it is impossible to install
Adblock Plus in the user profile. Adblock Plus will need to be installed
in the application directory. This has the consequence that Adblock Plus
needs to be reinstalled after each SeaMonkey update. Also, usually only
privileged users can install to application directory (on Unix systems
this is root)."

Also I checked my hosts file sys32/drivers/etc/hosts
and it already lists the errant sites! (which means they should be
already blocked!)
Thanks for any further ideas.


Try privoxy - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/


Try to use the previous Adblock version 0.5d2-build39. It has been 
working perfectly
for me in Seamenkey 1.1.x for years and can be installed in the user 
profile.

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Re: Delays in loading pages

[JeffM]

FDVS wrote:
>I find I am waiting for many webpages to load...for 5 seconds plus
>[...]
>How about disabling some of the ads that load with each page?
>
The main reason people are still using Gecko browsers
(instead of switching to Google Chrome,
which is faster and is a multi-process app[1])
is the Gecko **extension** infrastructure.
The first thing most folks do after installing a Gecko browser
is install AdBlock Plus and NoScript.

Privoxy has also been mentioned.
I'll add one more notion:
http://google.com/search?q=HOSTS+MVPs
.
.
[1] ...but Chrome DOESN'T allow you to *block* anything.
(Google is an **advertising** company.)
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Re: Delays in loading pages

[Lee]

On 3/6/10, FDVS  wrote:
>
>
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/5/10 4:33 PM, FDVS wrote:
>>> I find I am waiting for many webpages to load.for 5 seconds plus,
>>> when normally they would be instantaneous.  When they are loading, the
>>> progress strip at the bottom left says either:
>>>
>>> partner.googleadservies.com or
>>> google-analytics.com
>>> etc
>>>
>>> I suspect these are tracking devices that are slowing things down, is
>>> there anyway to disable them?
>
>>
>> Have you considered the AdBlock Plus extension at
>> ?
>>
>
> I tried to install it is not working as advertised.  Could it be due to
> this?  (from Adblock website)
> Installation in SeaMonkey
>
> "Unfortunately, in SeaMonkey 1.1 and below it is impossible to install
> Adblock Plus in the user profile. Adblock Plus will need to be installed
> in the application directory. This has the consequence that Adblock Plus
> needs to be reinstalled after each SeaMonkey update. Also, usually only
> privileged users can install to application directory (on Unix systems
> this is root)."
>
> Also I checked my hosts file sys32/drivers/etc/hosts
> and it already lists the errant sites! (which means they should be
> already blocked!)
> Thanks for any further ideas.

Try privoxy - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/
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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 3/6/2010 12:12 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 3/5/2010 6:04 PM, Bernard Mercier wrote:

Jens Hatlak avait énoncé :

Bernard Mercier wrote:

In a linux forum (puppylinux) I have a discussion with a guy who
prefers
FireFox because of the autoupdate function where updates are done
in the
background and only the changed files are replaced.

Is there something like this in SeaMonkey and if no will it be
there and
when?



SM 2 already has support for that (Help> Check for Updates). Maybe it's
disabled if you installed SM through your Linux distribution or the
user
you're running it with doesn't have write permissions for the
application directory.



HTH



Jens

As far as I see, when the 'update' is detected, SeaMonkey proposes to
go to the
web site and download a new version.
That's not what FF does, it updates automatically only thos files
which have a
need for it.



Yes the newest SM version does the background update; the "Go to
website" was only for the earlier series. If its installed via a
vendor (Linux Vendor) it *might* be different.


I think you mean a background download, as of 2.0.2->2.0.3 it still
required an application reboot, nothing remotely "background" about it.
The material can be gotten background if you enable that, but you don't
actually run the updates until a boot.



semantics, semantics; You are correct though. But it is JUST LIKE 
firefox ;-)


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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 3/6/2010 4:52 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 3/5/2010 6:04 PM, Bernard Mercier wrote:

Jens Hatlak avait énoncé :

Bernard Mercier wrote:

In a linux forum (puppylinux) I have a discussion with a guy who
prefers
FireFox because of the autoupdate function where updates are done in
the
background and only the changed files are replaced.

Is there something like this in SeaMonkey and if no will it be there
and
when?



SM 2 already has support for that (Help> Check for Updates). Maybe it's
disabled if you installed SM through your Linux distribution or the
user
you're running it with doesn't have write permissions for the
application directory.



HTH



Jens

As far as I see, when the 'update' is detected, SeaMonkey proposes to
go to the
web site and download a new version.
That's not what FF does, it updates automatically only thos files
which have a
need for it.



Yes the newest SM version does the background update;


I hate background updates 


Prefable, so you can choose to NEVER have this happen and instead dl 
manually from website. But *MOST* people prefer this.


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SM2.1: Workaround for remote timestamp on downloads?

[Oliver Naumann]

Hello world!

As proposed in bug 178506, downloaded files are now assigned the last-
modified timestamp from the remote server. This is a major annoyance
in my opinion, but since even reasonable suggestions such as chaging
the behaviour through a pref (bug 545392) fall on deaf ears, I guess
this is one of those ideological deals which you can't argue about.

Can somebody suggest a more convenient workaround than
| If you want the timestamp on a file downloaded by Firefox to be
| different from that on the server, you can change it yourself
?

As you can tell from my asinine sense of entitlement and fear of new
things, I'm on Windows.

TIA,
Oliver
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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 51, Issue 17

[NoOp]

On 03/05/2010 07:28 PM, Daniel wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> Here:
>>> Path: 
>>> Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.mozilla.org!news.mozilla.org.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:00:49 -0600
>>> Return-Path:
>>> X-Original-To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>>> Delivered-To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>>> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mozilla.org
>>> X-Spam-Flag: NO
>>> X-Spam-Score: 2.105
>>> X-Spam-Level: **
>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.105 tagged_above=2 required=6.31 
>>> tests=[AWL=-0.939,
>>> BAYES_20=-0.74, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX=3.188, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596]
>>> autolearn=no
>>> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:00:33 -0500
>>> From: James Greenidge
>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
>>> Gecko/20100206 SeaMonkey/2.0.3
>>> MIME-version: 1.0
>>> To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>>> Subject: Recommend Batch Converter. Sorry. Wrong mail-list
>>> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
>>> X-BeenThere: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
>>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
>>> Precedence: list
>>> List-Id: Support for the SeaMonkey Application Suite
>>> 
>>> List-Unsubscribe:,
>>> 
>>> List-Post:
>>> List-Help:
>>> List-Subscribe:,
>>> 
>>> Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
>>> Message-ID:
>>> Lines: 5
>>> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.245.208.166
>>> X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser
>>> X-Trace: 
>>> sv3-T0cabAv9McVa7DSKbwXlKhXN3GqgwjKM+OtnAvDZGbUcWerBSVXsxMALAhjOuw4oMSolRPcmy80KIPy!vcvqSCui6Ft6TLI0LvpxdVhQZkitEw6cfcL1k1rhifDdm1g1Y8U1MJDU51IvXmkHIhwamfLtx22C!2yXeM7Ko0BCAmyXBytDN49fnY4TDkaMTSbtDwKHk
>>> X-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org
>>> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org
>>> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
>>> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your 
>>> complaint properly
>>> X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
>>> Bytes: 2408
>>> Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:50200
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for the Recommend Batch Odt - Doc Converter posting. Wrong mail list!
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>> Any more questions?
>>
> 
> Gee, whiz nOoP, no need to get your nickers in a knot!! You could have 
> just replied as ChrisI did.
> 
> Perhaps you could answer the question I just posted in response to 
> ChrisI, "How come the OP's withdrawal post didn't make it to the News 
> Server"??
> 
> Daniel

It did... read the headers above.


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Re: Mail in the In box just disappeared

[Lee]

Hi Mark

Yes, fact is I checked it against the wifes mail folders and they are the
same as hers and her folders have no problem what so ever.  Just mine.
Believe me I have checked and checked and checked some more, I am no techie
for sure but followed every recommendation sent to me!


Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/6/2010 12:54 PM, Lee wrote:

Hi Bill

Thanks for your reply.  As long as they are marked unread I don't lose
them in the trash file, in the incoming email I did not have that problem
but now it is the same, if it is marked unread no problem, read and close
it and they are gone.  Weird for sure!  I have SM set with do not delete
in Mail and Newsgroups.  Set in the mail folder and in the browser.  No
luck.  Lucky for me I had done a recent backup and after strenuous thinking
I remembered where to find them so did not lose all that much.  Just ticks
me off.  Now I have to look in the about:config and see if I can find any
thing in there that would cause it.  Computing can be so much fun! (grin)


Did you verify that for the mail folder in question (Inbox, Trash, etc.)
you have:
   View ->  Messages ->  All, and
   View ->  Threads ->  All

To check, select the mail box (Inbox, for example), then go to the View
menu and along from there.




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Re: Transferring Site Passwords

[Roger Fink]

Roger Fink wrote:
> I recently installed SM 2.0.3 as a possible substitute for FF 3.5.8.
> I think the developers did a great job - they brought over the good
> stuff from FF3, and let the marginally useful stuff that people
> create extensions to remove stay where it was.
>
> Anyway, one difference I experienced between this version of SM and
> SM 1.x is that there seemed to be no easy way to transfer passwords.
> I had to print screenshots of all my password listings in FF and then
> go to each site in Seamonkey and login to create a saved password.
> Did I miss a work around on this? Also, since I am going to install
> SeaMonkey on a second laptop, is there an easy way to transfer my
> passwords from the first SeaMonkey installation, or do I have to
> repeat this (highly unpleasant) process?


"Password Exporter" near the very bottom of this page:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html
Looks, sounds, like it should work.


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Re: Mail in the In box just disappeared

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 12:54 PM, Lee wrote:
> Hi Bill
> 
> Thanks for your reply.  As long as they are marked unread I don't lose
> them in the trash file, in the incoming email I did not have that problem
> but now it is the same, if it is marked unread no problem, read and close
> it and they are gone.  Weird for sure!  I have SM set with do not delete
> in Mail and Newsgroups.  Set in the mail folder and in the browser.  No
> luck.  Lucky for me I had done a recent backup and after strenuous thinking
> I remembered where to find them so did not lose all that much.  Just ticks
> me off.  Now I have to look in the about:config and see if I can find any
> thing in there that would cause it.  Computing can be so much fun! (grin)

Did you verify that for the mail folder in question (Inbox, Trash, etc.)
you have:
  View -> Messages -> All, and
  View -> Threads -> All

To check, select the mail box (Inbox, for example), then go to the View
menu and along from there.

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Re: Mail in the In box just disappeared

[Lee]

Hi Bill

Thanks for your reply.  As long as they are marked unread I don't lose
them in the trash file, in the incoming email I did not have that problem
but now it is the same, if it is marked unread no problem, read and close
it and they are gone.  Weird for sure!  I have SM set with do not delete
in Mail and Newsgroups.  Set in the mail folder and in the browser.  No
luck.  Lucky for me I had done a recent backup and after strenuous thinking
I remembered where to find them so did not lose all that much.  Just ticks
me off.  Now I have to look in the about:config and see if I can find any
thing in there that would cause it.  Computing can be so much fun! (grin)

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Sounds a lot as if you open an evil email. If you have any suspision,
use F8 to view headers only, click the header and then ^U to view the
"raw" mail message.

The latest thing I see is messages from popular vendors about orders
canceled, delayed, price change, etc. When you open it tries to D/L
javascript. Note "tries" in my case, I'm a devout paranoid and check
stuff like that.



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Re: Address Book question

[FDVS]

-So what do you mean it didn't work? Did you install it into the
-Application profile rather than the user profile?
I clicked on download, followed the instructions, rebooted as requested 
and cannot see the program in Program Files or Add/Remove Programs. 
Tried it twice.


-Are you running on a UNIX system?
No.



-I've installed AdBlock Plus 1.1.3 without any problem in SeaMonkey 2.0.
-Because root installation of extensions is effectively hosed by the
-Addons Manager, I installed it in each of my four profiles.  When I
-upgraded SeaMonkey from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3, I did not have to reinstall
-Adblock Plus.
-- David E. Ross

Fraid' that is beyond me, guess I will live with it. Tks for trying.
Dave



xx
PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the
top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
xxx


I don't use mailing lists when there is a news server available. I don't
understand why anyone would, but that's just me. If you're having problems
with the mailing list, perhaps you should try using a news reader instead?
After all, SeaMonkey provides an integrated news reader, in the very same
application that you're using to read e-mail.
Just create a new account for news (not e-mail) and point it at 
news.mozilla.org,
then subscribe to mozilla.support.seamonkey.


I don't have any idea what a newserv is.  I like things very simple so I 
am sticking to email as the main form of communication.

thanks
Dave
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Re: Delays in loading pages

[David E. Ross]

On 3/6/10 11:15 AM, Mark Hansen wrote:
> On 3/6/2010 10:11 AM, FDVS wrote:
>> I tried to install it is not working as advertised.  Could it be due to 
>> this?  (from Adblock website)
>> Installation in SeaMonkey
>>
>> "Unfortunately, in SeaMonkey 1.1 and below it is impossible to install 
>> Adblock Plus in the user profile. Adblock Plus will need to be installed 
>> in the application directory. This has the consequence that Adblock Plus 
>> needs to be reinstalled after each SeaMonkey update. Also, usually only 
>> privileged users can install to application directory (on Unix systems 
>> this is root)."
>>
> 
> So what do you mean it didn't work? Did you install it into the
> Application profile rather than the user profile?
> 
> Are you running on a UNIX system?

>From the header section of FDVS's reply:
   User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3
It's Windows XP.

I've installed AdBlock Plus 1.1.3 without any problem in SeaMonkey 2.0.
 Because root installation of extensions is effectively hosed by the
Addons Manager, I installed it in each of my four profiles.  When I
upgraded SeaMonkey from 2.0.2 to 2.0.3, I did not have to reinstall
Adblock Plus.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: strange dock icon behavior - NEVERMIND

[Miles Fidelman]

Miles Fidelman wrote:

Hi Folks,

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on a Mac (OS 10.6.2), and over the past several
days I've noticed a new, strange, and unwanted behavior.

Until a few days ago, the SeaMonkey icon in my dock would show (in a red
circle) the number of unread email messages, and would reduce that
number as I read messages.

As of a few days ago, the number stopped decrementing. If my mailbox is
empty, all is fine, the number starts ticking up. Then I read mail and
the number stays the same, until I restart SeaMonkey, at which point it
resets to whatever number of unread messages are left.

Any idea what's going on, what to look at, is this a known bug?


Looks like, somewhere along the way, SeaMonkey got confused and decided 
that a bunch of read messages, from an account I don't usually check, 
became unread.  Marked them read and all is copacetic.


Sorry about that.

Miles
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Re: Address Book question

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 10:32 AM, FDVS wrote:
> WinXP Pro SP3, not sure what an LDAP is so I probably don't use.  When I 
> installed SM last week I had it import all my addresses from Netscape, 
> into its address book.
> 
> version 2.0.3
> * Copyright © 1998-2010 by contributors to the Mozilla Project.
> * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
> rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3

I'm not using SM 2.X yet, so I'll let someone else try to help you with
that.

> 
> xx
> PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the 
> top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:
> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> 
> Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
> xxx

I don't use mailing lists when there is a news server available. I don't
understand why anyone would, but that's just me. If you're having problems
with the mailing list, perhaps you should try using a news reader instead?
After all, SeaMonkey provides an integrated news reader, in the very same
application that you're using to read e-mail.

Just create a new account for news (not e-mail) and point it at 
news.mozilla.org,
then subscribe to mozilla.support.seamonkey.


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Re: Delays in loading pages

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 10:11 AM, FDVS wrote:
> I tried to install it is not working as advertised.  Could it be due to 
> this?  (from Adblock website)
> Installation in SeaMonkey
> 
> "Unfortunately, in SeaMonkey 1.1 and below it is impossible to install 
> Adblock Plus in the user profile. Adblock Plus will need to be installed 
> in the application directory. This has the consequence that Adblock Plus 
> needs to be reinstalled after each SeaMonkey update. Also, usually only 
> privileged users can install to application directory (on Unix systems 
> this is root)."
> 

So what do you mean it didn't work? Did you install it into the
Application profile rather than the user profile?

Are you running on a UNIX system?
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Transferring Site Passwords

[Roger Fink]

I recently installed SM 2.0.3 as a possible substitute for FF 3.5.8. I think
the developers did a great job - they brought over the good stuff from FF3,
and let the marginally useful stuff that people create extensions to remove
stay where it was.

Anyway, one difference I experienced between this version of SM and SM 1.x
is that there seemed to be no easy way to transfer passwords. I had to print
screenshots of all my password listings in FF and then go to each site in
Seamonkey and login to create a saved password. Did I miss a work around on
this? Also, since I am going to install SeaMonkey on a second laptop, is
there an easy way to transfer my passwords from the first SeaMonkey
installation, or do I have to repeat this (highly unpleasant) process?


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Re: Address Book question

[FDVS]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/6/2010 8:26 AM, FDVS wrote:

It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best
friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an
email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.

In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another
friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or
his email address.

So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff.
   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I
would like to find out why and fix it!

Thanks!
Dave


What version of SeaMonkey are you running? On what platform? What
type of address book (built-in or LDAP or other)?

I'm running SM 1.1.16 on Windows/XP SP3, and I don't have that problem.
However, I'm using an LDAP server for my address book, so perhaps this
is just a problem with the built-in address book?



WinXP Pro SP3, not sure what an LDAP is so I probably don't use.  When I 
installed SM last week I had it import all my addresses from Netscape, 
into its address book.


version 2.0.3
* Copyright © 1998-2010 by contributors to the Mozilla Project.
* Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3


xx
PS when I get these emails, I have to click ReplyAll, then delete the 
top (personal ones), then the bottom one and send them to the middle one:

support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Is that right?  No other listservs that I am on do this
xxx
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Re: Address Book question

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 8:26 AM, FDVS wrote:
> It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best 
> friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an 
> email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.
> 
> In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another 
> friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or 
> his email address.
> 
> So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. 
>   Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I 
> would like to find out why and fix it!
> 
> Thanks!
> Dave

What version of SeaMonkey are you running? On what platform? What
type of address book (built-in or LDAP or other)?

I'm running SM 1.1.16 on Windows/XP SP3, and I don't have that problem.
However, I'm using an LDAP server for my address book, so perhaps this
is just a problem with the built-in address book?

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strange dock icon behavior

[Miles Fidelman]

Hi Folks,

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on a Mac (OS 10.6.2), and over the past several 
days I've noticed a new, strange, and unwanted behavior.


Until a few days ago, the SeaMonkey icon in my dock would show (in a red 
circle) the number of unread email messages, and would reduce that 
number as I read messages.


As of a few days ago, the number stopped decrementing.  If my mailbox is 
empty, all is fine, the number starts ticking up.  Then I read mail and 
the number stays the same, until I restart SeaMonkey, at which point it 
resets to whatever number of unread messages are left.


Any idea what's going on, what to look at, is this a known bug?

Thanks Much.

Miles Fidelman
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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Philip Chee]

On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:08:53 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:

>> Actually its different.
>>
>> I am going to post some screen shots on my website for you to look at.
>>
> Okay here' the differences:
> 
> http://www.phillipmjones.net/Firefoxpicture.png
> http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture.png
> 
> FireFox allows for automatic Detection, download and install.
> SeaMonkey is automatic detection only you still have to initiate the 
> download. Which is the way it should be.

The prefs are there in SeaMonkey 2.0 but aren't exposed to the UI in the
Preferences window and those prefs do work if you change them via
about:config.

In Bug 541665 (Sync Suite pref-smartupdate.* with mozilla-central)

I have added the settings you see in Firefox to the SeaMonkey Software
Installation pane. This will be in SeaMonkey 2.1.

Phil

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Re: Delays in loading pages

[FDVS]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/5/10 4:33 PM, FDVS wrote:

I find I am waiting for many webpages to load.for 5 seconds plus,
when normally they would be instantaneous.  When they are loading, the
progress strip at the bottom left says either:

partner.googleadservies.com or
google-analytics.com
etc

I suspect these are tracking devices that are slowing things down, is
there anyway to disable them?




Have you considered the AdBlock Plus extension at
?



I tried to install it is not working as advertised.  Could it be due to 
this?  (from Adblock website)

Installation in SeaMonkey

"Unfortunately, in SeaMonkey 1.1 and below it is impossible to install 
Adblock Plus in the user profile. Adblock Plus will need to be installed 
in the application directory. This has the consequence that Adblock Plus 
needs to be reinstalled after each SeaMonkey update. Also, usually only 
privileged users can install to application directory (on Unix systems 
this is root)."


Also I checked my hosts file sys32/drivers/etc/hosts
and it already lists the errant sites! (which means they should be 
already blocked!)

Thanks for any further ideas.
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Address Book question

[FDVS]

It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best 
friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an 
email..and it would autofill Jeff and his email address.


In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another 
friend, "Spike" with his email address.  He has no j's in his name or 
his email address.


So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. 
 Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I 
would like to find out why and fix it!


Thanks!
Dave
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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Phillip Jones]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bernard Mercier schrieb:

As far as I see, when the 'update' is detected, SeaMonkey proposes to go to the
web site and download a new version.


That's what 1.x does, but SeaMonkey 2.x has the same auto-update
functionality as Firefox.

Robert Kaiser

Actually its different.

I am going to post some screen shots on my website for you to look at.


Okay here' the differences:

http://www.phillipmjones.net/Firefoxpicture.png
http://www.phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture.png

FireFox allows for automatic Detection, download and install.
SeaMonkey is automatic detection only you still have to initiate the 
download. Which is the way it should be.


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Re: Address book now accused of hijack

[Mark Hansen]

On 3/6/2010 6:28 AM, FDVS wrote:
>> You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
>> hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
>> visibility to more people that may be able to help you.
> 
> 
> I am going to need some help here, I have no idea what you are talking 
> about.
> 
> I was having a new problem, so I started a blank email to the group.  I 
> used my own title, I posted only my question.  I did not quote anyone 
> when I posted.
> 
> I just looked back at my sent message to confirm all that I am saying.
> 
> I also viewed my message, as it arrived at my inboxsame thing.
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> Dave

Oh, you're using an e-mail list. Probably you replied to the original
mail, then just changed the subject line, etc.?

I don't know how the mail lists work, but I would guess that when you
reply, it keeps the linkage between the message you replied to and
your message for threading purposes.

Instead, you should just create a brand new e-mail message. Then it
won't attempt to thread it with the other user's message.

Alternatively, you can use an actual news reader, like SeaMonkey.
Create a news account to the server news.mozilla.org then subscribe
to the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup.
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Re: Web Page Download Continues After Page Is "Killed"

[David E. Ross]

On 3/5/10 7:48 PM, Daniel wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> Running SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on Windows XP.  My SeaMonkey home page is my
>> bookmarks.html file, which obviously does not require any Internet
>> connection.
>>
>> While a Web page is loading, if I select the Home button on my
>> Navigation toolbar (moved from the Personal toolbar), my bookmarks
>> complete load.  However, I still see download activitive through my
>> dial-up modem, sometimes 10s of kilobits.
>>
>> This also happens if I select the Stop button.
>>
>> Why does not SeaMonkey stop receiving packets?
>>
> 
> David, once you've started a download of a web page, SeaMonkey will keep 
> trying to get the bits and pieces until you tell it to stop. Even when 
> you do tell it to stop, the last lot of requests are still "out there" 
> so you may see info being downloaded, even after you hit the stop 
> button.I know I do!
> 
> Daniel

If I've gone on to another page, the page I was on can no longer be
rendered.  WHY continue to download packets for that previous page?

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Phillip Jones]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bernard Mercier schrieb:

As far as I see, when the 'update' is detected, SeaMonkey proposes to go to the
web site and download a new version.


That's what 1.x does, but SeaMonkey 2.x has the same auto-update
functionality as Firefox.

Robert Kaiser

Actually its different.

I am going to post some screen shots on my website for you to look at.

--
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Re: Optiions/Character encoding problems

[Phillip Jones]

Keith Whaley wrote:

SM 1.1.18, Mac OS 10.6.2.

I had occasionally been getting garbage characters showing up in my message
text body that replaced apostrophes, and the like.
When I checked Options/Character Encoding, I saw Western ISO-8859-1 was checked.
For various reasons, I don’t like ISO-8859-1 and prefer Unicode UTF-8.

That gets rid of the odd characters, but in a short time, they return, and
when I check Options/Character Encoding, it has jumped back to putting a
checkmark by ISO-8859-1 once again! All by itself. I did NOT change it.

I finally went to Options/Character Encoding/Customize List. Once there I
removed everything BUT Unicode UTF-8 from the Active Character Encoding List
panel on the right side. In essence, deleted everything but UTF-8.

My problem is, that setting refuses to ‘stick.’ Soon it goes back to having
one or more other character encodings listed, and something places checkmarks
beside ISO-8859-1 again!

This is getting quite annoying, and I’d like instructions for making my
selected changes stick, please...

keith whaley


You set two places first (I'm describing from Mac Point of view - 
Windows and Unix/Linux will be different)


Preferences > Mail & News > Character Encoding.

Then open Edit > Mail & Newsgroup Accounts > Server settings > Default 
Character Encoding. They've got to match.


Even if you do they are all over the place and will vary form message to 
message. Even though they are sent as Text.
(Setting setting view > message body as > Plain Text, Simple HTML, or 
Original HTML seems to make no difference. )
(If sent as HTML text it will be WYSIWYG there will be no strange 
characters.)


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Re: Address book now accused of hijack

[FDVS]

You probably should begin your own thread for this question, rather than
hijacking someone else's thread. It will give your question better
visibility to more people that may be able to help you.



I am going to need some help here, I have no idea what you are talking 
about.


I was having a new problem, so I started a blank email to the group.  I 
used my own title, I posted only my question.  I did not quote anyone 
when I posted.


I just looked back at my sent message to confirm all that I am saying.

I also viewed my message, as it arrived at my inboxsame thing.


Thank you.
Dave
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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Bernard Mercier]

Dans son message précédent, Bernard Mercier a écrit :
> In a linux forum (puppylinux) I have a discussion with a guy who prefers
> FireFox because of the autoupdate function where updates are done in the
> background and only the changed files are replaced.

> Is there something like this in SeaMonkey and if no will it be there and
> when?
Thank you all for the replies.
I hoped SM would do this also now, so I can 'happily' reply to the guy.

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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Robert Kaiser]

Bernard Mercier schrieb:

As far as I see, when the 'update' is detected, SeaMonkey proposes to go to the
web site and download a new version.


That's what 1.x does, but SeaMonkey 2.x has the same auto-update 
functionality as Firefox.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Disable specific Seamonkey components

[BeeNeR]

On or about 3/5/2010 11:11 PM, Steve Wendt typed the following:
> On 03/05/10 04:02 am, Philip Chee wrote:
> 
>> Chatzilla is a separate extension so you should be able to package
>> SeaMonkey without Chatzilla or disable it by default. The Composer UI
>> might be a build time configuration setting.
> 
> The enhancement bug just turned 10 years old, actually:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29838

Took ten years for 16 users to be interested in it.  Not a high priority
item.  I NEVER used Chatzilla and only played with Composer.
All my HTML has been done from scratch in a text editing program.
I've already uninsatalled Chatzilla and won't miss Composer if it goes away.

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Re: Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

[Ray_Net]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 3/5/2010 6:04 PM, Bernard Mercier wrote:

Jens Hatlak avait énoncé :

Bernard Mercier wrote:

In a linux forum (puppylinux) I have a discussion with a guy who
prefers
FireFox because of the autoupdate function where updates are done in
the
background and only the changed files are replaced.

Is there something like this in SeaMonkey and if no will it be there
and
when?



SM 2 already has support for that (Help> Check for Updates). Maybe it's
disabled if you installed SM through your Linux distribution or the user
you're running it with doesn't have write permissions for the
application directory.



HTH



Jens

As far as I see, when the 'update' is detected, SeaMonkey proposes to
go to the
web site and download a new version.
That's not what FF does, it updates automatically only thos files
which have a
need for it.



Yes the newest SM version does the background update;


I hate background updates 
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Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 51, Issue 17

[Daniel]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-03-05 10:23 PM, Daniel wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


James meant this:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/msg/6cf94e00bb636af5



So how come that didn't appear on the news server, as far as I know??


It appears here (news.mozilla.org via Thunderbird).
news://news.mozilla.org/mailman.6282.1267700448.4112.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org


It's not in the same thread though. If you select one of James' messages
then sort by sender, do you see it?



Sorry, Chris, yes, now that I've set things to View->Threads->All I do 
see it, in yet another threadwell on its own really.


Threadingyou beautie!!

Daniel
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