Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
Bill Davidsen wrote: William Morrison wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/24/2010 2:14 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: William Morrison wrote: Hey Group I'm having trouble with Seamonkey freezing my computer Windows XP, right? ... My computer is running a AMD Athalon XP 2.1Ghz with 512 meg of DDR PC2100 ram, Display Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP integrated on motherboard. Add more ram! At least get it up to 1 GB. At today's prices, I wouldn't stop there. Windows love RAM :( Check the task manager while all your stuff is going on and see how much free ram you have .. and how deep into the swap file you are. That's the true check. If your machine is swapping heavily, good night! Hi Guys Thanks Mark Beau, well I had just got the wife's approval to use some of our tax return money to buy some more ram anyway. I ran task manager, ran the same scenario and it showed that when I had Farmville and the email open and when the CPU was hitting 100% I was 561meg deep into the swap file so I guess I'll max it out with 2 gig. The motherboard is a MSI KM400 MS-7061 and will take up to 2 gig of PC3200. Sorry Bill, it not that I don't appreciate the offer but I figure I might as well take it to the max while I have the wife's approval and that way I will have a warranty to fall back to if anything happens to the ram during shipping. Now If I can just find who it was online the other day that had a 2gig upgrade package of DDR for $63.00USD. One thing I did just check and change for the time being was my swap file initial size, I had it set at 4096 with max also at 4096, I now have the initial set at 512 with max still at 4096 and it seems to allow the CPU to drop back to around 50% much quicker than it did with both at 4096. Thanks again, I really didn't think it was Seamonkey that was the problem but wasn't sure. Newegg.com $55 of 2x1GB PC2 5300 desktop (240 pin) from Corsair. I don't see 2GB SIMMS in desktop, laptop is 240 pin, server is buffered. If your wife is in a really good mood they have a $400 laptop with fast CPU and 3GB on the home page. ;-) Thanks for the info Bill but this antique will only handle 184-pin DIMM • DDR PC3200 • CL=3 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 128Meg x 64 ram that's getting pretty pricey in it's old age like good wine I guess. If you could give me some advice on which brand of this type to buy it would be greatly appreciated and as far as the wife, well she' pi$$ed at me now so I'll be lucky to get this. -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Local Folders
I am using SM 2.0.3, Windows XP Pro sp3. What is Local Folders that I see in my mail newsgroup list? What is it´s purpose? I am wondering after having read another thread here, and me having some weird problems within my mail program. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Picky Picky (was: Re: Is anyone else getting an error?)
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
IE8 would probably have no complaints if you fed it the menu from a
Chinese restaurant or the text of a Russian novel. It ignores what it
doesn't understand. Wow, that sounds like our legislators, doesn't it?
Your legislators, maybe, Bill, but not Our legislators!
Daniel
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Installing SM v2.x over SM v1.x
Is there a way to install SM v2.03 and retain all the password info from my SM v1.19? I tried SM v2 last Nov (at that time, had to remove SM v1 first), I got all my SM v1 profile data and, I think, all my password data. (I had to go back to SM v1 because of problems with my system.) I just now tried SM v2.03 (with SM v1.19 still loaded) and it went well except it automatically copied old profile data from IE. Is there a way to install SM v2.03 with just my current SM v1.19 profile data (no IE clutter)? I can get around this by copying files on the hard drive but so far, that does not give me the password data - nothing shows up in the SM v2.03 password manager. So my opening question: how could I get SM v2.03 to use all the passwords I now have in SM v1.19. In my SM v1.19, the password manager takes up 3 screens or 50 password entries. -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Two profiles, I only created one
Monica wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Monica wrote: Daniel wrote: Monica wrote: Bernard Mercier wrote: Monica avait prétendu : Daniel wrote: Monica wrote: Since the last update to the current 2.0.3. I have 2 profiles in C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\ApplicationData\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ The first one (which has all my stuff in it) [random string].slt and the second one [random string].default I have never created more than one, but suspect that SM for some reason has created the second one, which I think may be messing a few things up for me (that I´ve posted about in another thread). I read another posting here which said that the Mail folder should be in C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\ApplicationData\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[random string].default\Mail My mail (and everything else of my stuff) does not sit in the profile with the .default ending but in the profile with the .slt ending. How can I go about to correct this? Can I just delete the .default one? Any help will be much appreciated. Monica Monica, did you upgrade from SM 1.x?? I think it called its profiles .slt whereas SM 2 calls it .default I think!! Daniel I am not sure (can´t remember) if it was this last time I upgraded from SM 1.x or just did an update within SM2.x. I think the latter, because I think I can recall being annoyed at the update being done automatically without me being asked first. I know now that I can untick a box for that, which I did today. That .slt variant may have been with me ever since I upgraded to SM2 and I just haven´t noticed anything wrong until I needed to perform certain things lately. Do you know what can be done about this though? Select in Tools|switch profile. Then manage profiles. I´m sorry but manage profiles in what way? I´m not too familiar with things like this. What I do know though is that I am using the profile I want to, and that is not the default one that also sits there for whatever reason. O.K., Monica, forget the Manage Profiles bit for now. Just select Tools-Switch profiles and check out what the other profile/s contains. When you installed SM 2.0.x, it should have made a copy of your SM 1.1.xx profile (the .slt one) and called the new one .default. If your SM 1 profile is still there, it will not have your latest email, for example, but would be complete upto your change-over date. Just check it out! Daniel I just switched profiles to check out what the other (.default) profile contains. It really doesn´t contain anything of mine. It´s just an original default profile from the update ( or upgrade?) made November 19, 2009. Was that maybe when SM2 came out (and I upgraded from SM1)? The profile I am using (the .slt one) has everything from my old profile and up to current time. Let me take a wild guess here, by any chance when the pop-up asking what shall I import? came up, did you click some selection other than everything? I have always done all or nothing at that point, If you did, you are probably going down a lightly tested (at best) path, since most people either trust it or don't. I can´t really remember getting that question at all to be honest, but I doubt that I would have answered anything but everything since I know I always want everything possible imported. Just a thought, then. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/27/2010 10:31 PM On a whim, David E. Ross pounded out on the keyboard On 3/27/10 4:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote [in part]: Daniel wrote [also in part]: And Bill if I limit my downloaded messages to only those of 1kByte or less, that still doesn't stop your 1MByte message arriving on my ISP's server for my mail account, so costing me extra because you've exceeded my daily 500kByte mail limit. (Don't worry, Bill, it's not just you, I'm still trying to educate my family members as well!!) Doesn't stop 1MB plain text either. Big data is big data, and if you have people sending you stuff like that you might be well served to go to gmail, and use a reader which lets you choose not to download text of any message over a certain size unless initiated manually. gmail supports IMAP as well as the web interface. If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. It wouldn't have to be that large at all. That is typical HTML-phobe speak. Of course if you're talking about Word HTML composition, then you would be correct, except for the excessive errors you state. I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. So who do you believe? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A pop up alive forever
On 3/27/2010 7:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2. NO !!! Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled Sending Messages -mail-subject with Status: Copy complete Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar] is visible. The mail is well sent. The copy of the mail in the Sent box is done. This pop-up did on end ... - What could we do with this bug ? I submitted a bug weeks ago about it at Bugzilla. I don't think there has been any activity on it. I don't recall getting CC's about anything other when I submitted comments I even post attachment showing the window. I suppose it could be fixed if someone was interested in looking at it. It just started in 1.1.17 and hasn't been fixed in 2.0.3 I've seen this long before 1.1.17. I don't remember exactly when it started, but it's been happening for years, and I'm still only on 1.1.16. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/28/10 6:50 AM, Terry R. wrote: On 3/27/2010 10:31 PM On a whim, David E. Ross pounded out on the keyboard On 3/27/10 4:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote [in part]: Daniel wrote [also in part]: And Bill if I limit my downloaded messages to only those of 1kByte or less, that still doesn't stop your 1MByte message arriving on my ISP's server for my mail account, so costing me extra because you've exceeded my daily 500kByte mail limit. (Don't worry, Bill, it's not just you, I'm still trying to educate my family members as well!!) Doesn't stop 1MB plain text either. Big data is big data, and if you have people sending you stuff like that you might be well served to go to gmail, and use a reader which lets you choose not to download text of any message over a certain size unless initiated manually. gmail supports IMAP as well as the web interface. If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. It wouldn't have to be that large at all. That is typical HTML-phobe speak. Of course if you're talking about Word HTML composition, then you would be correct, except for the excessive errors you state. I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. So who do you believe? Terry R. I believe the sample of 20 actual HTML-formatted messages -- from 20 different senders -- that I received the beginning of this year. See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/ASCIIvsHTML.html. Yes, if you hand-code your HTML, you can make your messages error-free and quite compact. That's exactly how I create my Web pages. But if you use an E-mail application to create HTML, the results can be quite different. Even if SeaMOnkey using Composer produces error-free HTML, it still won't be as efficient -- as free of bloat -- as hand-coded HTML. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
Terry R. wrote: I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. You might be able to do that, Terry, (and so could I) but most HTML email clients sure can't. Do you get email from, say, yahoo mail users? A one or two sentence message runs around 13-16KB usually. Here's a small snippet from a four-sentence message I got yesterday via yahoogroups. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd; html head /head body style=background-color: #fff; span style=display:nonenbsp;/span !--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-- div id=ygrp-mlmsg style=position:relative; div id=ygrp-msg style=z-index: 1; !--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-- div id=ygrp-text pHello All,br ... The 302 lines of *styling* were in a second head section after all the HTML and content! Oh, and viewing the email in HTML, it is just the four lines in the Georgia font. No other formatting was applied by the sender. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Local Folders
Monica wrote: What is Local Folders that I see in my mail newsgroup list? What is it´s purpose? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Local_Folders HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Installing SM v2.x over SM v1.x
JohnW-Mpls wrote: Is there a way to install SM v2.03 with just my current SM v1.19 profile data (no IE clutter)? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey (Manual migration) HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.03 fails on this page
Bill Davidsen wrote: cmcadams wrote: Phillip Pi wrote: On 3/23/2010 10:00 PM PT, cmcadams typed: As Subject says, but it does work in IE. No matter what choices are made in the pick lists, everything reverts to defaults at Step 3 in SM. No difference with Java on or off. For the record, my choices: Step 1, Windows; Step 2, Windows XP; Step 3, Hyperion Pro (4in1) chipset drivers. http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp No problems here in my updated 64-bit W7 HP OEM with a bunch of extensions (e.g., Adblock Plus). I also don't use referrers and have cookies enabled. HOWEVER, disabled cookies made it not work as you said. :( So, it's cookies related. I enabled cookies for the site, quit everything SM, and restarted. But it still wouldn't work for me. Finally I went to Edit-Preferences-Privacy Security-Cookies and told it to 'Allow all cookies' and 'Accept cookies normally' ... success. So, conditional OKs for cookies are sometimes not sufficient. You are possibly getting cookies from other sites, did you check what cookies it added? Only difference I see in _VIA_ cookies taken on betweeen one setting and the other is one named 'ASP.NET_SessionId' with cookie permissions wide open. From 5 planted from the site under my default settings to 6 when wide open. As for non-site cookies, there are too many for me to be sure of counting reliably, but I don't see anything suspicious or unrelated to other places I've been. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Local Folders
On 3/28/2010 8:19 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Monica wrote: What is Local Folders that I see in my mail newsgroup list? What is it´s purpose? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Local_Folders HTH Jens This is the politically correct answer. One question remains on my mind: before Local Folders (was Mozilla Suite which started this), what was it we could not do today with them? Not obvious, except for one thing which became easier with them: Some people use Local Folders as a place to archive old messages, so that their actively used mail folders are smaller and less cluttered (cited from the URL above). Lots of users keep an inordinate amount of mail in the Inbox. Local Folders can indeed be used as a storage area for emails that are not immediately needed but that should still remain readily accessible. Personally, this is the only practical use I ever found for Local Folders. Regards John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Local Folders
John Doue wrote: Lots of users keep an inordinate amount of mail in the Inbox. Local Folders can indeed be used as a storage area for emails that are not immediately needed but that should still remain readily accessible. Local Folders are probably of little help with POP accounts but with IMAP it makes sense to have a defined local storage. Personally, this is the only practical use I ever found for Local Folders. I use Local Folders for that (local, categorized archive) and cross-folder/-server searches. For example there's a bug about cross-newsgroup search folders that are put on below a news account (in that case you're repeatedly asked to (un)subscribe that folder). If you instead put such a search folder below Local Folders there is no problem (at least starting with the upcoming SM 2.0.4 where bug 546040 is fixed so that replying to a message in a search folder honors the message type, e.g. news vs. POP/IMAP mail). Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.03 fails on this page
cmcadams wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: cmcadams wrote: Phillip Pi wrote: On 3/23/2010 10:00 PM PT, cmcadams typed: As Subject says, but it does work in IE. No matter what choices are made in the pick lists, everything reverts to defaults at Step 3 in SM. No difference with Java on or off. For the record, my choices: Step 1, Windows; Step 2, Windows XP; Step 3, Hyperion Pro (4in1) chipset drivers. http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp No problems here in my updated 64-bit W7 HP OEM with a bunch of extensions (e.g., Adblock Plus). I also don't use referrers and have cookies enabled. HOWEVER, disabled cookies made it not work as you said. :( So, it's cookies related. I enabled cookies for the site, quit everything SM, and restarted. But it still wouldn't work for me. Finally I went to Edit-Preferences-Privacy Security-Cookies and told it to 'Allow all cookies' and 'Accept cookies normally' ... success. So, conditional OKs for cookies are sometimes not sufficient. You are possibly getting cookies from other sites, did you check what cookies it added? Only difference I see in _VIA_ cookies taken on betweeen one setting and the other is one named 'ASP.NET_SessionId' with cookie permissions wide open. From 5 planted from the site under my default settings to 6 when wide open. As for non-site cookies, there are too many for me to be sure of counting reliably, but I don't see anything suspicious or unrelated to other places I've been. was able to go to page just fine 2.0. SM (Mac) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Local Folders
Jens Hatlak wrote: John Doue wrote: Lots of users keep an inordinate amount of mail in the Inbox. Local Folders can indeed be used as a storage area for emails that are not immediately needed but that should still remain readily accessible. Local Folders are probably of little help with POP accounts but with IMAP it makes sense to have a defined local storage. Personally, this is the only practical use I ever found for Local Folders. I use Local Folders for that (local, categorized archive) and cross-folder/-server searches. For example there's a bug about cross-newsgroup search folders that are put on below a news account (in that case you're repeatedly asked to (un)subscribe that folder). If you instead put such a search folder below Local Folders there is no problem (at least starting with the upcoming SM 2.0.4 where bug 546040 is fixed so that replying to a message in a search folder honors the message type, e.g. news vs. POP/IMAP mail). Greetings, Jens The only thing I saw with the advent of Local folders is the ability to edit as new or resend Newsgroup post. In order to have the ability to do so items *have to be* save to the local directory. Before you could save them in a newsgroup folder within your email directory and you could do so . Not now. You receive a message about if you continue your actions will be ignored. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
I get the error. But the ^ is in a different spot.
It's under the closing ' of s' i.e.
scriptdocument.write('s'
--^
which is column 27
Whatever.
I'm singularly unconcerned if some ad server's script fails, and that's
what atdmt.com is. They're obviously trying to conceal themselves from
ad blockers by that silly concatenation document.write('s'+'cript...
It's another story entirely if the page's real content is hard to see.
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
I get the error. But the ^ is in a different spot.
It's under the closing ' ofs' i.e.
scriptdocument.write('s'
--^
which is column 27
Whatever.
I'm singularly unconcerned if some ad server's script fails, and that's
what atdmt.com is. They're obviously trying to conceal themselves from
ad blockers by that silly concatenation document.write('s'+'cript...
It's another story entirely if the page's real content is hard to see.
Or page content is impossible to see... as it was for me, in this case.
All I got was script.
bj
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Re: A pop up alive forever
Phillip Jones wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2. NO !!! Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled Sending Messages -mail-subject with Status: Copy complete Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar] is visible. The mail is well sent. The copy of the mail in the Sent box is done. This pop-up did on end ... - What could we do with this bug ? I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but doesn't return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete if you leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem. I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own, and doesn't hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally completes there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion message and socket teardown. I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the years. Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version 1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Bill Davidsen wrote: Dick Hoffman wrote: I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Running out of disk or memory? I doubt it, Bill. There's 40G of hard drive free and the system has 1 G of RAM. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Local Folders
John Doue wrote: On 3/28/2010 8:19 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Monica wrote: What is Local Folders that I see in my mail newsgroup list? What is it´s purpose? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Local_Folders HTH Jens This is the politically correct answer. One question remains on my mind: before Local Folders (was Mozilla Suite which started this), what was it we could not do today with them? Not obvious, except for one thing which became easier with them: Some people use Local Folders as a place to archive old messages, so that their actively used mail folders are smaller and less cluttered (cited from the URL above). Lots of users keep an inordinate amount of mail in the Inbox. Local Folders can indeed be used as a storage area for emails that are not immediately needed but that should still remain readily accessible. Personally, this is the only practical use I ever found for Local Folders. Regards John Doue Thanks for the clarification! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
William Morrison wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: William Morrison wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/24/2010 2:14 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: William Morrison wrote: Hey Group I'm having trouble with Seamonkey freezing my computer Windows XP, right? ... My computer is running a AMD Athalon XP 2.1Ghz with 512 meg of DDR PC2100 ram, Display Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP integrated on motherboard. Add more ram! At least get it up to 1 GB. At today's prices, I wouldn't stop there. Windows love RAM :( Check the task manager while all your stuff is going on and see how much free ram you have .. and how deep into the swap file you are. That's the true check. If your machine is swapping heavily, good night! Hi Guys Thanks Mark Beau, well I had just got the wife's approval to use some of our tax return money to buy some more ram anyway. I ran task manager, ran the same scenario and it showed that when I had Farmville and the email open and when the CPU was hitting 100% I was 561meg deep into the swap file so I guess I'll max it out with 2 gig. The motherboard is a MSI KM400 MS-7061 and will take up to 2 gig of PC3200. Sorry Bill, it not that I don't appreciate the offer but I figure I might as well take it to the max while I have the wife's approval and that way I will have a warranty to fall back to if anything happens to the ram during shipping. Now If I can just find who it was online the other day that had a 2gig upgrade package of DDR for $63.00USD. One thing I did just check and change for the time being was my swap file initial size, I had it set at 4096 with max also at 4096, I now have the initial set at 512 with max still at 4096 and it seems to allow the CPU to drop back to around 50% much quicker than it did with both at 4096. Thanks again, I really didn't think it was Seamonkey that was the problem but wasn't sure. Newegg.com $55 of 2x1GB PC2 5300 desktop (240 pin) from Corsair. I don't see 2GB SIMMS in desktop, laptop is 240 pin, server is buffered. If your wife is in a really good mood they have a $400 laptop with fast CPU and 3GB on the home page. ;-) Thanks for the info Bill but this antique will only handle 184-pin DIMM • DDR PC3200 • CL=3 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 128Meg x 64 ram that's getting pretty pricey in it's old age like good wine I guess. If you could give me some advice on which brand of this type to buy it would be greatly appreciated and as far as the wife, well she' pi$$ed at me now so I'll be lucky to get this. TigerDirect.Com - I have been using Corsair for budget systems since I found out Kingston is just rebranding what they can buy wholesale. TD has Corsair Value Select for $35/GB, OCZ for $28/GB, Patriot for $30/GB and Crucial for $42/GB. Newegg.com has a 2GB OCZ deal, $70 for 2GB, $20 rebate, $50 final cost. That's a dual channel kit on the off-chance you care. I would fill all the slots you can afford in your financial and wifely tolerance budgets. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/28/2010 9:49 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. You might be able to do that, Terry, (and so could I) but most HTML email clients sure can't. Do you get email from, say, yahoo mail users? A one or two sentence message runs around 13-16KB usually. Here's a small snippet from a four-sentence message I got yesterday via yahoogroups. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd; html head /head body style=background-color: #fff; span style=display:nonenbsp;/span !--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-- div id=ygrp-mlmsg style=position:relative; div id=ygrp-msg style=z-index: 1; !--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-- div id=ygrp-text pHello All,br ... The 302 lines of *styling* were in a secondhead section after all the HTML and content! Oh, and viewing the email in HTML, it is just the four lines in the Georgia font. No other formatting was applied by the sender. I can't speak for Yahoo mail, and I don't know anyone that uses it offhand. But I was responding directly to David's comment of, If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. and I believe he overstated the numbers quite a bit. Maybe if the email was sent as PT HTML using Word, but not just HTML, and not the error count either. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/28/10 5:17 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Terry R. wrote: I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. You might be able to do that, Terry, (and so could I) but most HTML email clients sure can't. Do you get email from, say, yahoo mail users? A one or two sentence message runs around 13-16KB usually. Here's a small snippet from a four-sentence message I got yesterday via yahoogroups. [snip code] The 302 lines of *styling* were in a secondhead section after all the HTML and content! Oh, and viewing the email in HTML, it is just the four lines in the Georgia font. No other formatting was applied by the sender. I can't speak for Yahoo mail, and I don't know anyone that uses it offhand. Really? I'd say about 20-25% of the mail I get comes from yahoo. But I was responding directly to David's comment of, If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. Heh, I'm sure that was a misuse of MB .. where he meant KB (which would be about right, a typical 4 to 1 ratio. The email I cited has 67 words (357 bytes), and from Yahoo needed 13 Kilobytes of HTML. Or he may just have been exaggerating for fun. and I believe he overstated the numbers quite a bit. Maybe if the email was sent as PT HTML using Word, but not just HTML, and not the error count either. Ewww. Word, as the editor for OE, does a *terrible* job of HTML. I was replying to Bill Davidson, who wrote about Doesn't stop 1MB plain text either. If messages actually got that size, the equivalent message in HTML formatting would be about 4.6 times that. This is based on my examination of 20 actual HTML-formatted messages that I collected from my inbox earlier this year. As it happens, my wife has a friend who regularly sends HTML-formatted messages in the 600 KB to 1.5 MB range (a very few at large as 4 MB). My wife ignores them, leaving them on our ISP's mail server until I use a Web-mail capability to delete them. I was able to identify one of those 20 messages as coming from Yahoo mail. It was NOT from my son, who uses Yahoo mail exclusively. Among the 20 messages I collected, both the largest message and the message with the largest bloat factor were all HTML. None of the bloat can be attributed to there being an ASCII part to those messages. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
optmd.com
Anyone figure how to Stop Optmd.com's Pop unders? Editing the windows host file just Blocks the Ad within the pop under, still have to Close out the optmd window. Some sites that give this popunder freep.com detnews.com mlive.com popunder loads when u click on a news article.and only ONCE PER DAY for each site. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: optmd.com
question wrote: Anyone figure how to Stop Optmd.com's Pop unders? Tried your HOSTS file yet? http://google.com/search?q=%22+HOSTS-file http://google.com/search?q=cache:Fp9OhvRkg6kJ:www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/12/grand_rapids_landlords_accused.html+our+our+HOSTS.file+Pop.unders+Optmd.comstrip=1 http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/12/grand_rapids_landlords_accused.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: optmd.com
JeffM wrote: question wrote: Anyone figure how to Stop Optmd.com's Pop unders? Tried your HOSTS file yet? http://google.com/search?q=%22+HOSTS-file http://google.com/search?q=cache:Fp9OhvRkg6kJ:www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/12/grand_rapids_landlords_accused.html+our+our+HOSTS.file+Pop.unders+Optmd.comstrip=1 http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/12/grand_rapids_landlords_accused.html Original post stated I ALREADY EDITTED THE HOSTS FILE . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Saving Web pages to disk
Hi All, I am using SeaMonkey 2.0.3 and latest Java, noScript etc. I have disabled ALL AddOns. When I save a web page lately, a folder name_files is NOT created and all links remain pointing to the original web page. Is there something to adjust in preferences etc..? It did not used to do this, all was normal but I noticed this behaviour change about a week or so ago. Suggestions very welcome. Regards, Robert Traynor (BobT). 29 March 2010 16:05 -- ,-._|\ Robert Traynor(BobT) / Oz \ emailrtray...@optusnet.com.au \_,--.x/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
