Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Marisa Ciceran]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 5/14/2010 2:28 PM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:


My intention was to delete all the older versions of SeaMonkey, but the
malfunctioning 2.0.4 Profile Manager forced me to reinstall 1.1.19
yesterday, and use that for the second profile. A new conflict came up
with this. Although the programs and profiles are all in different
folders, the 2.0.x desktop icons sometimes link to the 1.1.19 program
instead of 2.0.x.


When you say "link to" do you mean you look at the properties of the
shortcut and see that it references the 1.X executable, or just that
when you click on the link, you get a SM 1.X window?


The link as shown in the Properties of the shortcut is correct, but it 
opens an older version. I've removed all references to the older version 
in the registry and hope that I've eliminated that particular conflict.




Keep in mind that unless you take specific precautions to prevent it,
trying to launch SM 2.X while SM 1.X is running will only result in a
new SM 1.X window (and the reverse is also true).


What you are mentioning are not issues in my case. I do not open two 
versions of SeaMonkey simultaneously and the Application Data files are 
always in separate folders.




Also remember that SM 1.X has a quick launch feature which keeps SM
1.X running even when you don't have any windows open (if you enabled
it during the installation - but I can't remember if enabling it is
the default).


I do not use the SeaMonkey Quick launch feature.

The fact remains that the SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Profile Manager simply does 
not work. Any further clues on this?

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Re: Problem sending emails via SM and using Vista

[Paul]

Lee wrote:
I have been having a problem sending email with SeaMonkey version 2.0.4, 
I can receive email but can't send any and the message
below is what I get.   I have checked my settings and they are correct. 
 I am using Vista.


Sending of message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server 
smtp.att.yahoo.com was lost in the middle of the transaction. Try again 
or contact your network administrator.


My Settings are below:

Server Name:  pop.att.yahoo.com  port 995

out going server:  smtp.att.yahoo.com   port 465

I checked security settings and they appear corrrect.  I even deleted 
SeaMonkey and then restarted the computer and then

re installed the program

Still no luck.  Even called ATT to see if they might have an answer.  NO 
LUCK!


Anyone have any tips that might help me?  I even downloaded the ATT 
Support Toiol but could not get it installed.  No problems

with my other computer where it is installed on XP.

Lee


I have att=yahoo also but have SM1117, win XP.
Make sure SSL is checked for outgoing.
My settings are the same as yours.
ATT help is useless.  They dont have a clue about server settings.
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Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey

[David E. Ross]

On 5/14/10 8:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/13/10 12:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> David E. Ross a écrit :
 On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote:
> On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net
> wrote:
>> Russ Hunt wrote:
>>> Well.
 I have "general.useragent.extra.firefox" set to "NOT Firefox/3.6". See
 if that helps you.  -JW
>>
>>> Hm.  I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set
>>> that?
>>
>> in SM browser, type the url   about:config
>> then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox
>> then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6
>
> Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later
> with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But
> I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so
> as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's
> going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will
> decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing
> occurring more frequently.

 The problem is not in SeaMonkey.  The pronblem is that some Web servers
 deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using,
 detecting your browser by what is called "sniffing".  Further, many
 servers sniff incorrectly, looking for "Firefox" when they should look
 for "Gecko".

 What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox.
 This is called "spoofing".  By spoofing, you are compounding the problem
 by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used.  This
 will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no
 need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff.  This puts all SeaMonkey
 users at a disadvantage.

 The proper way to address this problem requires three actions:

 1.  Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when
 necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times.  Such extensions
 include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher.  They automatically eliminate
 spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey.

 2.  Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with
 SeaMonkey.  Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based
 browsers that are not Firefox.  Refer them to
    and thus losing
 potential audience.

>>> Most of the time webmaster would not change what he have done ... one
>>> reason is because IE is IE, FireFox is FireFox, and Seamonkey is *not*
>>> Seamonkey , but Gecko ... nobody knowns that Gecko is a browser ... the
>>> webmaster snif for a known list of browser ... Gecko ? what is that ? ...
>>
>> I suggest you actually read
>> .  Firefox is
>> also Gecko.  The Firefox developers state that it is wrong to sniff for
>> "Firefox".  When sniffing can be justified, the server should sniff for
>> "Gecko" even for Firefox browsers.
>>
> 
> I undersand that, but most of the webmasters snif for IE or FireFox or 
> Opera, etc ... i never seen a webmaster sniffing for Gecko ... and in 
> any tutorial .. Gecko sniffing is never present.
> 

Web sites that sniff for "Firefox" and not "Gecko" are the subjects of
bug reports.  The tracking bug for those reports is #334967 at
.

That tracking bug was started by Firefox developers, not by SeaMonkey
developers or users.  Sniffing for "Firefox" causes problems with
testing Firefox nightlies and alphas, which do not necessarily have
"Firefox" in their user agent strings.

Besids SeaMonkey, this affects Camino (a Gecko-based browser for Macs),
might affect Fennec (a Gecko-based browser for mobile communication
devices such as Web-capable cell phones), and probably affects other
non-Firefox browsers.

Boris Zbarsky said in comment #4 of bug #334967:
> Frankly, I think that if sites are sniffing for Firefox and not Gecko, that's
> something that's quite bad from the Mozilla Foundation's point of view. Or
> ought to be.  

There are now 147 open bugs tracked by bug #334967.  There are also 53
bugs that were tracked but are now resolved.  This means that 53 mostly
commercial Web sites that used to sniff for "Firefox" (or worse, worked
only for IE) now don't sniff at all (the best solution) or at least
sniff for "Gecko".

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Mark Hansen]

On 5/14/2010 2:28 PM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
> 
> My intention was to delete all the older versions of SeaMonkey, but the 
> malfunctioning 2.0.4 Profile Manager forced me to reinstall 1.1.19 
> yesterday, and use that for the second profile. A new conflict came up 
> with this. Although the programs and profiles are all in different 
> folders, the 2.0.x desktop icons sometimes link to the 1.1.19 program 
> instead of 2.0.x.

When you say "link to" do you mean you look at the properties of the
shortcut and see that it references the 1.X executable, or just that
when you click on the link, you get a SM 1.X window?

Keep in mind that unless you take specific precautions to prevent it,
trying to launch SM 2.X while SM 1.X is running will only result in a
new SM 1.X window (and the reverse is also true).

Also remember that SM 1.X has a quick launch feature which keeps SM
1.X running even when you don't have any windows open (if you enabled
it during the installation - but I can't remember if enabling it is
the default).
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Re: newsgroup question

[Norvin]

Norvin wrote:
Yesterday my news.eternal-september.org newsgroup had a problem. When I 
open the newsgroup and click on a subject, it ask if I want to subscribe

to the newsgroup. Using SM 1.1.18. Have no idea where to start or who to
contact if there is anyone to contact.
Thanks
Thanks for the suggestion, I deleted the newsgroup completely and then 
added and it finally started working again. Another little gremlin.

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Problem sending emails via SM and using Vista

[Lee]

I have been having a problem sending email with SeaMonkey version 2.0.4, 
I can receive email but can't send any and the message
below is what I get.   I have checked my settings and they are correct. 
 I am using Vista.


Sending of message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server 
smtp.att.yahoo.com was lost in the middle of the transaction. Try again 
or contact your network administrator.


My Settings are below:

Server Name:  pop.att.yahoo.com  port 995

out going server:  smtp.att.yahoo.com   port 465

I checked security settings and they appear corrrect.  I even deleted 
SeaMonkey and then restarted the computer and then

re installed the program

Still no luck.  Even called ATT to see if they might have an answer.  NO 
LUCK!


Anyone have any tips that might help me?  I even downloaded the ATT 
Support Toiol but could not get it installed.  No problems

with my other computer where it is installed on XP.

Lee
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Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Marisa Ciceran]

Mark,

Mark Hansen wrote:

I'm not using SM 2.X yet, so I can't comment on that. However, I just
wanted to make sure you understand that the profile manager for SM 2.X
will see only the SM 2.X profiles - it won't see the SM 1.X profiles.


I am aware of that. I also took a precaution before importing the 1.x to 
2.x archives and configuration, I made sure that I had only only one 
profile in the older SeaMonkey Mails. That was probably a mistake as now 
I cannot create a second profile, rename, or do anything in the 2.0.x 
Profile Manager.


My intention was to delete all the older versions of SeaMonkey, but the 
malfunctioning 2.0.4 Profile Manager forced me to reinstall 1.1.19 
yesterday, and use that for the second profile. A new conflict came up 
with this. Although the programs and profiles are all in different 
folders, the 2.0.x desktop icons sometimes link to the 1.1.19 program 
instead of 2.0.x.


Obviously, I would like to have just one SeaMonkey program running, the 
latest version. That I cannot create a second profile in 2.0.4, is a 
major problem for me.


I hope there is a fix for the non-functional Profile Manager in 2.0.x.
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Default Mail Composition Font

[johnfull]

Is this the place to bring up the issue of the defective HTML composer
in the Mail program?
Seamonkey 1x and Mozilla Suite and Netscape always handled selected
default fonts solidly.
SeaMonkey 2x adopted the Thunderbird trunk and now has a defective
composer that reverts
to variable width small fonts at the slightest perturbation of the
type stream.
Thunderbird made this error sometime after creating the ToolKit code
that cannot interact with
the better code from the old SeaMonkey. Everyone says it's tough to go
back and fix the problem,
but I wonder how many iterations have come and gone in the meantime.
How did this make it
out of Beta? Is it really so hard to fix? Is there any plan to put the
CSS code in place eventually
so that we have a modern Mail program to be proud of? This defect is
quite jarring to those of
us coming to it from SeaMonkey. Get used to it is not a nice
suggestion.
I have already aired this elsewhere on Mozillazine forums to the point
of arousing hostility from
moderators. So far, no one responsible for writing the code and
responsible for adopting
Thunderbird for SeaMonkey code has come forward with their perspective
on the matter.
There are many things better than the old 1x, besides the easier
ToolKit code for developers.
The crash recovery is admirable, for instance. But this font silliness
is just a killer of some of us.
Many gave up quietly and went elsewhere...
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Re: OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[Glen]

chicagofan wrote:

Glen wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

I use SM 2.04, and recently the Weather Channel made changes in their
desktop application which rendered it unusable for me. It gives me an
error message about the display. So I went to their web site for some
advice of what to do and their reply was what I had already read at
their site about what is required. Zero help...

I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it? [The Weather Channel app. is
built around IE.] I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use
Firefox just for that, when needed.
bj



If you are using SM, give Forecastbar Enhanced 0.9.6 a try.

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#forecastbarenhanced

It has alerts, pop up animated weather map, and several other options to
use.

Or, if you don't use xsidebar as an option, you can also give
Forecastbar Enhanced a try as well.

http://users.rcn.com/shoofy/forecastfox_enhanced/

I haven't tried forecast enhanced myself, but it looks legit. I
personally use xsidebar and many of Phil's kind and generous offerings
of add-ons never converted to SM by their original authors.

I hope this helps.

Glen


Thanks, Glen... I downloaded the Forecastfox bar, since it was the same
one promoted by the WC. Appreciate the quick response, and I'll check
these out, if it fails me. :)
bj

bj,

Both of the items I suggested are actually Forecastfox, just modified to 
properly work within SM.  I accidently duplicated the same name in what 
I wrote above, but they are, in essence, all the same program just 
altered by different authors.


xsidebar is loaded with a slew of modified add-ons, a definite review, 
imo.


Good luck.





The first one from


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Re: OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[chicagofan]

Glen wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

I use SM 2.04, and recently the Weather Channel made changes in their
desktop application which rendered it unusable for me. It gives me an
error message about the display. So I went to their web site for some
advice of what to do and their reply was what I had already read at
their site about what is required. Zero help...

I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it? [The Weather Channel app. is
built around IE.] I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use
Firefox just for that, when needed.
bj


 

If you are using SM, give Forecastbar Enhanced 0.9.6 a try.

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#forecastbarenhanced

It has alerts, pop up animated weather map, and several other options to
use.

Or, if you don't use xsidebar as an option, you can also give
Forecastbar Enhanced a try as well.

http://users.rcn.com/shoofy/forecastfox_enhanced/

I haven't tried forecast enhanced myself, but it looks legit. I
personally use xsidebar and many of Phil's kind and generous offerings
of add-ons never converted to SM by their original authors.

I hope this helps.

Glen
   


Thanks, Glen... I downloaded the Forecastfox bar, since it was the same 
one promoted by the WC.  Appreciate the quick response, and I'll check 
these out, if it fails me.   :)

bj
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Re: OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[chicagofan]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

chicagofan a écrit :
   

I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it? [The Weather Channel app. is
built around IE.] I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use
Firefox just for that, when needed.
 


Hubby uses Forecastfox in SM 2.0.4 without a problem.

https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/seamonkey/addon/398/

S.
   


How neat!  That is the same extension the WC  had linked to for 
Firefox.  I didn't know it worked for SM too.


Thanks!!!
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Subject: Re: phishing

[Pat Connors]

Yes, I saw the article this morning when I opened my ATT-Yahoo mail 
which I check every morning before downloading it to SeaMonkey.  I also 
think the NY Times is doing an investigative piece on all the security 
problems people are having as a result of joining FB.



This article just came out on Yahoo either yesterday or the day before.
   I think it was written because you are definitely NOT the first person
to encounter your problems.

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/109538/7-things-to-stop-doing-now-on-facebook

   



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Subject: Re: phishing

[Pat Connors]

support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

And it isn't SeaMonkey's fault.
   
>  
>  No, and I never said it was. ...
 

You erased the smiley from my statement.
   



I am sorry, I had a horrible day yesterday with the scanning, new 
computer plus dealing with Windows 7 and trying to install the new Zone 
Alarm...I guess I wasn't smiling.  Today is better, I am now only 
dealing with how to get off Facebook completely.  Here are some back to 
you. :-) :-) :-)



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Re: OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[Glen]

chicagofan wrote:

I use SM 2.04, and recently the Weather Channel made changes in their
desktop application which rendered it unusable for me. It gives me an
error message about the display. So I went to their web site for some
advice of what to do and their reply was what I had already read at
their site about what is required. Zero help...

I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it? [The Weather Channel app. is
built around IE.] I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use
Firefox just for that, when needed.
bj



If you are using SM, give Forecastbar Enhanced 0.9.6 a try.

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#forecastbarenhanced

It has alerts, pop up animated weather map, and several other options to 
use.


Or, if you don't use xsidebar as an option, you can also give 
Forecastbar Enhanced a try as well.


http://users.rcn.com/shoofy/forecastfox_enhanced/

I haven't tried forecast enhanced myself, but it looks legit. I 
personally use xsidebar and many of Phil's kind and generous offerings 
of add-ons never converted to SM by their original authors.


I hope this helps.

Glen
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Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !

[S. Beaulieu]

Rufus a écrit :


I'm becoming more and more inclined
to agree with them...and you.




Oh, please don't use me as a source! I'm generally on the paranoid side 
of things! ^_^;


S.
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Re: OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[S. Beaulieu]

chicagofan a écrit :


I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it? [The Weather Channel app. is
built around IE.] I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use
Firefox just for that, when needed.



Hubby uses Forecastfox in SM 2.0.4 without a problem.

https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/seamonkey/addon/398/

S.
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Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !

[Rufus]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Rufus a écrit :


I'm becoming more and more inclined
to agree with them...and you.




Oh, please don't use me as a source! I'm generally on the paranoid side 
of things! ^_^;


S.


...just because you're paranoid don't mean you're always wrong!

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Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !

[Rufus]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Rufus a écrit :

and having all your
passwords in such a convenient location and NOT using a strong Master is
just begging for trouble.



Agreed. But that,s only IF you store your passwords in SM. Encryption or 
not, I don't trust any software with my passwords. I know them and type 
them every time. Thus, no master password is necessary. What would it 
protect?


That's one case I can think of where a null password makes sense. I'm 
sure there are others.


S.


I guess if you're not storing anything at all it's ALL null by 
default...which is just fine.


I've been warned against using the password storage capabilities in 
browsers by my IT security folks at work, and now that I know what's 
going on and how they actually work I'm becoming more and more inclined 
to agree with them...and you.


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Re: OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[chicagofan]

chicagofan wrote:

I use SM 2.04, and recently the Weather Channel made changes in their
desktop application which rendered it unusable for me.  It gives me an
error message about the display.  So I went to their web site for some
advice of what to do and their reply was what I had already read at
their site about what is required.  Zero help...

I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it?  [The Weather Channel app. is
built around IE.]   I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use
Firefox just for that, when needed.
bj
   


P.S.  -
I should have said, the error message said "Active X" was missing or 
non-working.  I considered that a good thing until now.  ;)

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OT: Anyone using Weather app with Firefox?

[chicagofan]

I use SM 2.04, and recently the Weather Channel made changes in their 
desktop application which rendered it unusable for me.  It gives me an 
error message about the display.  So I went to their web site for some 
advice of what to do and their reply was what I had already read at 
their site about what is required.  Zero help...


I noticed though, that they show a Firefox extension for Weather and 
wondered if anyone here had ever tried it?  [The Weather Channel app. is 
built around IE.]   I don't plan to change from SM, but I could use 
Firefox just for that, when needed.

bj


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Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/13/10 12:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross a écrit :

On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote:

On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net
wrote:

Russ Hunt wrote:

Well.

I have "general.useragent.extra.firefox" set to "NOT Firefox/3.6". See
if that helps you.  -JW



Hm.  I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set
that?


in SM browser, type the url   about:config
then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox
then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6


Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later
with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But
I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so
as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's
going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will
decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing
occurring more frequently.


The problem is not in SeaMonkey.  The pronblem is that some Web servers
deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using,
detecting your browser by what is called "sniffing".  Further, many
servers sniff incorrectly, looking for "Firefox" when they should look
for "Gecko".

What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox.
This is called "spoofing".  By spoofing, you are compounding the problem
by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used.  This
will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no
need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff.  This puts all SeaMonkey
users at a disadvantage.

The proper way to address this problem requires three actions:

1.  Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when
necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times.  Such extensions
include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher.  They automatically eliminate
spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey.

2.  Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with
SeaMonkey.  Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based
browsers that are not Firefox.  Refer them to
   and thus losing
potential audience.


Most of the time webmaster would not change what he have done ... one
reason is because IE is IE, FireFox is FireFox, and Seamonkey is *not*
Seamonkey , but Gecko ... nobody knowns that Gecko is a browser ... the
webmaster snif for a known list of browser ... Gecko ? what is that ? ...


I suggest you actually read
.  Firefox is
also Gecko.  The Firefox developers state that it is wrong to sniff for
"Firefox".  When sniffing can be justified, the server should sniff for
"Gecko" even for Firefox browsers.



I undersand that, but most of the webmasters snif for IE or FireFox or 
Opera, etc ... i never seen a webmaster sniffing for Gecko ... and in 
any tutorial .. Gecko sniffing is never present.


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OT Re: Seamonkey - Win7 Premium 64-Bit - Flash Player

[Daniel]

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 13.05.2010 19:30, MCBastos wrote:

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Interviewed by CNN on 13/5/2010 15:20, Jay told the world:

I found a good deal on a Win7 Premium 64-Bit machine and wondering
about SM running on it and Flash Player. There is no 64-Bit Flash
Player yet and wondering if SM will fit the bill both on 64-Bit and
Flash ...


You can run the 32-bit Seamonkey (the one that's actually available, you
know) in 64-bit Windows with no problem. It will use the 32-bit Flash
player.

Actually, that's true for most applications. Only a few apps have 64-bit
native versions, and those tend to be very memory-hungry apps, like
Photoshop, which will benefit from having more than 4Gb RAM all to
themselves. And most of them will offer to install both the 32-bit and
the 64-bit versions in parallel, so you can use the 64-bit one when you
need lots of RAM and the 32-bit one when you need compatibility.
(MS-Office is an exception: you have to choose either the 32-bit or the
64-bit version. Unless you are an Excel jockey with a really humongous
spreadsheet, you are better off staying with the 32-bit one for the time
being).

Even Internet Exploder comes in two versions in Vista/7 64bit: a native
64-bit one and a 32-bit one. Most people use only the 32-bit one,
because it is compatible with Flash and other plugins.



Thanks, it's the wife's new computer, no Office will be installed,
doesn't need it. Mostly just browsing and email and she's pretty handy
with Seamonkey .. thanks




This is not the real Jay Garcia, is it???

Daniel

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Re: MASTER PASSWORD OVER KILL !

[S. Beaulieu]

Rufus a écrit :

and having all your
passwords in such a convenient location and NOT using a strong Master is
just begging for trouble.



Agreed. But that,s only IF you store your passwords in SM. Encryption or 
not, I don't trust any software with my passwords. I know them and type 
them every time. Thus, no master password is necessary. What would it 
protect?


That's one case I can think of where a null password makes sense. I'm 
sure there are others.


S.
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Re: phishing

[Glen]

Pat Connors wrote:

support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

I think your terms and usage is what is confusing. Your address book was
not compromised, or hacked, or trojanized. It's a Facebook option that
you (whether you knew it or not) agreed to.


Yes, you are correct, I did use the wrong terms. It took a while to
figure out what actually happened. After all those scans, I know it is
not my computer but the Facebook program. I don't remember them asking
me about copying my Address Book because I would have said, NO.


And it isn't SeaMonkey's fault.


No, and I never said it was. I have been on SeaMonkey, since it's
beginning (after Netscape) and love it. I was trying to get help with a
problem I didn't fully understand. Again, thanks to all that have helped
me understand what was happening.




Pat,
This article just came out on Yahoo either yesterday or the day before. 
 I think it was written because you are definitely NOT the first person 
to encounter your problems.


http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/109538/7-things-to-stop-doing-now-on-facebook

Personally, I'd look at the smaller social networking sites and convince 
your friends to do the same. Technology is great, just not when you are 
the guinea pig and treated like one.


Good luck.
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Re: Profile Manager does not work

[Mark Hansen]

I'm not using SM 2.X yet, so I can't comment on that. However, I just
wanted to make sure you understand that the profile manager for SM 2.X
will see only the SM 2.X profiles - it won't see the SM 1.X profiles.
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Re: phishing

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Pat Connors wrote:

> [Beauregard, not support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:
>> I think your terms and usage is what is confusing. Your address book
>> was not compromised, or hacked, or trojanized. It's a Facebook
>> option that you (whether you knew it or not) agreed to. 
> 
> Yes, you are correct, I did use the wrong terms.  It took a while to
> figure out what actually happened.  After all those scans, I know it
> is not my computer but the Facebook program.  I don't remember them
> asking me about copying my Address Book because I would have said,
> NO.

It must be a buried option. I had set up a Facebook account about a year
ago so I could look for 50th year reunion classmates on FB. Since I
really did not want an account, I used a not-real name, and a Gmail
address that I keep for, um, testing purposes. I did have about a dozen
real addresses in the Gmail address book.

During the FB signup process, I noticed a cryptic, short textbox about
three lines high, that contained a checkbox (pre-checked) for all those
real addresses! The only way to NOT "invite everyone in my address book"
was to manually UN-check each and every one.

Obviously, there was/is breach-of-privacy collusion between Google Gmail
and Facebook. How else would my "private" Gmail addresses get listed on
the Facebook signup pages?  (I would never use Gmail for my real email
business.)

>> And it isn't SeaMonkey's fault.
> 
> No, and I never said it was. ...

You erased the smiley from my statement.  

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Re: e-mail send performance

[Alex Strickland]

On 2010/05/13 01:05 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Does it perform normally when you don't scan Incoming and Outgoing email
with your a-v?  It is not necessary.
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

Leave the resident portion of the a-v running, of course.


Thanks, I read it. I disabled the e-mail scanning, although it appears 
to only do outgoing - POP, I guess it does not need to do SMTP if it is 
doing it's job. Didn't make any appreciable difference. It's no show 
stopper, but kind of annoying. I should try with another mail program to 
really check - some time.


Regards
Alex

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