Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/24/10 5:14 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:
>>> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 JD wrote:
> Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
>> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
>> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>>
>> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
>> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>>
>> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
>> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
>> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
>> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
>> WORKED???
>>
>
> Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
> here:
>
> http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe
>
>
>

 THANK YOU! How did you find that link?


>>>
>>> You're welcome!
>>>
>>> When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>>> there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
>>> was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
>>> Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
>>> the installer?
>>>
>>
>> And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can be
>> installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.  SeaMonkey
>> will then find it.
>>
> 
> Instead of making ignorant comments, why don't you go to the Adobe 
> download site and see firsthand what we're talking about??
> 

As I indicated in an earlier reply in this thread, I updated Flash from
10.1 r53 to 10.1 r82 on 15 Aug (9 days ago).

To do that, I went to the Adobe download site, used SeaMonkey to
download install_flash_player.exe, terminated SeaMonkey, and installed
the new version.  There was NO extension, NO involvement by SeaMonkey
during the execution of install_flash_player.exe, and NO problem.

Then, on 22 Aug (only 2 days ago), I again used SeaMonkey to download
install_flash_player.exe from the Adobe download site.  Using both MD5
and SHA1 hashes, I determined that this newly downloaded file was
identical to the file I archived after my 15 Aug installation.

If you failed to read my prior reply that described this, then you are
the one who is ignorant.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[David E. Ross]

On 8/24/10 5:13 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
>>> Glen wrote:
 Cruz, Jaime wrote:
> How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
> their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
> which won't install because it's not FireFox.
>
> I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
> but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!
>
> They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
> file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
> supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
> SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???
>

 This is where I obtained the latest version from...

 http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

 I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.


>>>
>>> Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
>>> with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.
>>
>> Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
>> doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.
>>
>>
> 
> The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension 
> called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on 
> Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the 
> plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the 
> plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just 
> want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's 
> worked for over a decade.
> 
> I DO know what I'm talking about.
> 

Well, I don't know where or why you are getting an extension.

Using SeaMonkey, I went to  and
downloaded install_flash_player.exe.  I then terminated SeaMonkey and
disabled my Internet connection.  When I double-clicked on
install_flash_player.exe, Flash 10.1 r82 was installed on my C-drive at
[c:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash].  After re-enabling my Internet
connection, a test at  was
successful.

There was no extension and no Adobe DLM.

My configuration is (in part):

Windows XP Home Edition Version 5.1 (service pack 3)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11)
Gecko/20100701 SeaMonkey/2.0.6

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Can an Address Book Folder be Set BCC Always?

[d...@kd4e.com]

I recently mistakenly sent non-BCC E-mail to a long list in
a sub-folder of my Address Book.

Is it possible to set a sub-folder in Address Book so it may
only be used in BCC mode?

If not can that be added as a feature?

I cannot be the only one who'd like it.

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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can
be installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.
SeaMonkey will then find it.


Instead of making ignorant comments, why don't you go to the Adobe 
download site and see firsthand what we're talking about??


FWIW, my experience is similar to David's. I went to the Adobe website 
and downloaded the installer, which I then ran without SeaMonkey even 
open. It worked fine on the first attempt.


Of course, they do "recommend" that instead of saving the installer, you 
just click "run." I didn't do that, and it didn't hurt me none.


Duddn't sound too ign'ant t'me...

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SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3 Available

[Robert Kaiser]

SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3 marks a third preview milestone on the way to the 
future of Mozilla's SeaMonkey Internet suite and is now available for 
free download. Please note that this pre-release version is still 
intended for developers and testers only. As always, we appreciate any 
feedback you may have and encourage

users to help us by filing bugs.

The new improvements of this developer preview compared to the last one 
include:

- Personas support (see www.getpersonas.com to try this).
- A reworked bookmarks system.
- By default, tabs are opened instead of new windows.
- Address book toolbars can now be customized.
- Find in Page now works with a toolbar.
- New possibilites for web developers are supported, like CSS
  Transitions and the W3C Indexed Database API.

We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or 
you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known 
Issues prior to filing bugs.


SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3 is available for free download from 
www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this 
release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and 
reporting problems as well as further improving the product.


Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!



Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-08-24

Downloads for all available platforms:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a3

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1a3

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Cruz, Jaime]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe





THANK YOU! How did you find that link?




You're welcome!

When the install failed from  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
the installer?



And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer?  Flash can be
installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey.  SeaMonkey
will then find it.



Instead of making ignorant comments, why don't you go to the Adobe 
download site and see firsthand what we're talking about??


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President
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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[Cruz, Jaime]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 4:17 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Glen wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually WORKED???



This is where I obtained the latest version from...

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

I'm running SM 2.0.7 if that helps any.




Maybe that stupid extension of their's works under 2.0.7, but it doesn't
with 2.0.7, which is what I'm running.


Get your terminology straight.  Flash is a plugin not an extension.  It
doesn't even reside in the SeaMonkey directory or in your profile.




The terminology IS correct. The Adobe site wants to install an extension 
called the Adobe DLM.  If it works the way the ActiveX component on 
Explorer works, once the extension is installed, then IT downloads the 
plugin.  I don't want or need the bloody extension, I just want the 
plugin. I don't need an extension to install the plugin for me. I just 
want to download the damned plugin and install it the same way it's 
worked for over a decade.


I DO know what I'm talking about.

--
Jaime A. Cruz
President
Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club
http://www.nassauwings.org/

AMA District 34
http://www.AMADistrict34.com/
Pop's Run
http://www.popsrun.org/
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SeaMonkey used to work -- "my way" ;)

[Richard Owlett]

Current environment: WinXP Pro SP3 and SeaMonkey 2.0.5
Former environment:  WinXP Pro SP2 and SeaMonkey ?

I used to be able to specify target of shortcut using the form
  "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -p -m *IIRC*
to force SeaMonkey to offer me choice of profiles and then bring 
up email


*OR*

  "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -p -b *IIRC*
to force SeaMonkey to offer me choice of profiles and then bring 
up browser


NOW, no matter what, I get
  Choice of profiles -- good
  *ALWAYS* Browser   -- *NOT* good

Found no germane "help" using F1


Purpose(s) of post:
1. How should I specify target to get desired result?
2. What keyword(s) should I've used to search "HELP"?
3. I've a problem that I believe too vague to write a decent "bug 
report". Authoring a "Help System" is more art than science.

If none says there is problem - how will it be solved?
My generation said "If you are not part of solution, you are part 
of the problem".


Thank you to the team.

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Re: itms is not a registered protocol

[Beverly Howard]

>> itms is not a registered protocol <<

>  >> I'm running into the above error message as I research iOS apps 
located on itunes apps section.  <<


>> I don't have itunes installed, and I don't get the error you 
describe. The URL redirects to 
 ...

<<

Very interesting... I pulled the url I posted from a link on a different 
site and with your post I note that it resolved to the same url you posted.


>>  ...which loads fine. The beginning of that page reads:
...We are unable to find iTunes on your computer <<

However, when I go to that page using either url, I get the full page of 
information for the Sketchbook app followed by the "itms" error.


I think the difference is that my wife has an itunes account which I 
have accessed on this computer, so I am assuming that a cookie 
associated with that login is why I can get to that page while you can't.


More interesting, I just logged in to that account, then went to the url 
and got the page without the error message.


Thanks for the feedback... very informative.  I will report back if I 
learn more.


Apple really thinks highly of their app... despite the unreasonable 
demands that it makes on any pc that it ends up on ;-/


Beverly Howard



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Re: FREAKIN' Adobe!!!

[question]

JD wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/23/10 5:16 AM, JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

JD wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

How does one get the latest Flash Player for Seamonkey? They've
changed
their *&#$ing site so that it wants to install an "Add On" to
Seamonkey,
which won't install because it's not FireFox.

I changed the setting to bypass Compatibility checking so it
installs...
but it won't RUN because it says you're not running Firefox!!

They USED to have a web link where you could get the Windows
Installer
file directly, but that link has disappeared. How the *&^# are we
supposed to get the latest fixes if those JACKASSES take away the
SIMPLEST way of installing... you know... the way that actually
WORKED???



Don't get me going about the morons at Adobe. I got the installer from
here:

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe






THANK YOU! How did you find that link?




You're welcome!

When the install failed from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
there was a place to click to troubleshoot the problem and then there
was a place to download the installer. It seems as though the problem is
Adobe now wants to use the Adobe Download Manager and SM2 doesn't like
the installer?



And why would SeaMonkey even care about the installer? Flash can be
installed by itself without any participation by SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey
will then find it.



All I can tell you is it didn't work from the link. My bad, it seems as
though SM2 had a problem with the Adobe Download Manager.

No big deal, I've figured out how to update Flashplayer and control it
so I'm done. 8-)

My flash player's Audio quit working today . No audio from any site that 
uses Flash player 10

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Re: PGP ?

[Henk Fictorie]

Rick Merrill wrote:
> Henk Fictorie wrote:
>> Rick Merrill wrote:
>>> What is the status of PGP with (plain text) SeaMonkey email?
>>>
>> I'm using Seamonkey (2.0.6) with Enigmail/OpenPGP without any trouble.
>>
>> regards Henk
> 
> Henk, Do you avoid the bugs Ross mentioned?
> 

I didn't read all comments, but I think that this is a request to add
native PGP functionality to Mozilla/Thunderbird(/Seamonkey). As said the
combination Enigmail (v1.0.1) and OpenPGP just works. As I recall it
wasn't that hard to install. For OpenPGP I use the GNU version gpg4win
v2.0.1

> 

This bug report is about showing weird signature attachments when you
don't use Enigmail. I'm using Enigmail so I don't have this problem.

regards Henk

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Re: PGP ?

[Rick Merrill]

Henk Fictorie wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

What is the status of PGP with (plain text) SeaMonkey email?


I'm using Seamonkey (2.0.6) with Enigmail/OpenPGP without any trouble.

>

regards Henk


Henk, Do you avoid the bugs Ross mentioned?






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Re: password

[Smiles]

Daniel wrote:

Smiles wrote:

good day months a go I told SeaMonkey to never remember a password for a
site I would like to have it remember

how do I make the change?

thanks


Tools->Password Manager->Manage Stored Passwords, select the "Passwords
Never Saved", select the one you want to remove and select the remove
button.

Should do what you want.

Daniel

thanks
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