Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Ant]

On 7/13/2011 8:57 PM PT, Rufus typed:


Actually, I miss all of the features that the 1.1.x series included. I
didn't use the Forms Manager, but I get the impression that enough
people miss it to put me on their side. And the Password Manager got
broken in an annoying fashion and never got fixed somewhere about
1.1.16-17, as I recall.

The only reason I never used the Forms Manager was that SM gave no
indication as to if the information it stored was encrypted or not.


Ah. I don't use those features.
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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Ant]

On 7/13/2011 8:12 PM PT, PhillipJones typed:


I'm waiting too. I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility
suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as features went. But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
get a look at full-up Lion. Then I'll have a new set of decisions to
make.


v2.0.x was the best to me. I am waiting for v2.2+ to be stable and
working extensions (need them without hacking!).


I'll be lurking and possibly making a comment ever y once in a while.
But after trying 2.2 that was the last straw. Killing QuickTime? On Mac
without the QuickTime Plugin there is nothing open images in Post or on
websites.

I am saying with 2.0.19 or what every it end up being.


v2.0.14 and probably the last one ever for 2.0.x. :(
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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Philip Chee]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:37:48 -0400, W3BNR wrote:
> 
> Hmmm.  I upgraded from 2.0.15pre and lost most of my plug-ins.  But I 
> modified 
> the .rdf files and there's only one that I can't get working and that's 
> FireFTP. 

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Rufus]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 7/13/2011 8:26 PM, Rufus wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you may
know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.


Thanks for the bad news. Well not much reason to stick around this
newsgroup.

2.2 broke too many things extensions and plugins. No QuickTime. No Pdf
Browser Plugin not Flip4Mac (wmv/wma pluging to work through QuickTime.
And many other. I'm not upgrading.



I'm waiting too. I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility
suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as features went. But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
get a look at full-up Lion. Then I'll have a new set of decisions to
make.



FYI our Lion compat release will be 2.3, and we'll recommend you use at
least 2.3b1 if you install Lion.



I got burned trying out a beta once before - never again.

I'll be installing Lion (or not) and then trying a clean install of a 
2.3 (or more likely 2.4) stable release and migrating from my 2.0.14 
install.


But if Lion actually works the way I think it's going to re: full screen 
apps (which I think I'm not going to like) I may abandon SM after all 
these years in any case...it was a good run.


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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Rufus]

Ant wrote:

I'm waiting too.  I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work.  Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as features went.  But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
get a look at full-up Lion.  Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.


v2.0.x was the best to me. I am waiting for v2.2+ to be stable and
working extensions (need them without hacking!).


I agree.  If a *user* has to be savy enough to hack code to get a 
"finished" product to work, then that product isn't "finished".


Actually, I miss all of the features that the 1.1.x series included.  I 
didn't use the Forms Manager, but I get the impression that enough 
people miss it to put me on their side.  And the Password Manager got 
broken in an annoying fashion and never got fixed somewhere about 
1.1.16-17, as I recall.


The only reason I never used the Forms Manager was that SM gave no 
indication as to if the information it stored was encrypted or not.


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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Rufus]

PhillipJones wrote:

Ant wrote:

I'm waiting too. I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility
suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as features went. But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
get a look at full-up Lion. Then I'll have a new set of decisions to
make.


v2.0.x was the best to me. I am waiting for v2.2+ to be stable and
working extensions (need them without hacking!).


I'll be lurking and possibly making a comment ever y once in a while.
But after trying 2.2 that was the last straw. Killing QuickTime? On Mac
without the QuickTime Plugin there is nothing open images in Post or on
websites.

I am saying with 2.0.19 or what every it end up being.



Same-same here.

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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[David E. Ross]

On 7/13/11 8:11 PM, Robert Gault wrote:
> William Greenwood wrote:
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
>> Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2
>>
>> When going to URL  I 
>> get
>> message: "You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date 
>> version
>> of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try 
>> again."
>>
>> It worked fine with SM2.0.14
> 
> Works without the Java message in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) 
> Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 with Java Version: 6.0.240.7.

Yes, it works okay in a Windows system.  But the problem is being
reported for a Mac system.

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Re: FF 5.0.1 - mapping to SM 2.2?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 7/13/2011 4:50 PM, Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

Hi,

is a SM 2.2.1 planned with the Mac OS 10.7 (and 10.5 Java) related fixes
included in FF 5.0.1?

I don't think, I will jump to 10.7 ASAP, but I'd feel better, if I
could. ;-)
(Though SM 2.3 might be out already, when I move...)


At this point, considering the complications in shipping a 2.2.1 to mac 
only, we feel it is in our best interests to not ship a 2.2.1 just for 
these issues.


2.3b1 will hopefully be out soon, and we plan to direct 10.7 SeaMonkey 
users at that (or 2.3 itself). If our metrics report contrary to our 
assumptions here, we may revisit this choice, but for the time being 
that is as we choose.


We are not precluding the choice to build from source yourself with 
those fixes of course!


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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 7/13/2011 8:26 PM, Rufus wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you may
know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.


Thanks for the bad news. Well not much reason to stick around this
newsgroup.

2.2 broke too many things extensions and plugins. No QuickTime. No Pdf
Browser Plugin not Flip4Mac (wmv/wma pluging to work through QuickTime.
And many other. I'm not upgrading.



I'm waiting too. I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as features went. But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
get a look at full-up Lion. Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.



FYI our Lion compat release will be 2.3, and we'll recommend you use at 
least 2.3b1 if you install Lion.


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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[Robert Gault]

William Greenwood wrote:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

When going to URL  I get
message: "You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version
of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try 
again."

It worked fine with SM2.0.14


Works without the Java message in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) 
Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 with Java Version: 6.0.240.7.

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[PhillipJones]

Ant wrote:

I'm waiting too.  I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work.  Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as features went.  But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
get a look at full-up Lion.  Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.


v2.0.x was the best to me. I am waiting for v2.2+ to be stable and
working extensions (need them without hacking!).


I'll be lurking and possibly making a comment ever y once in a while. 
But after trying 2.2 that was the last straw. Killing QuickTime? On Mac 
without the QuickTime Plugin  there is nothing  open images in Post or 
on websites.


I am saying with 2.0.19 or what every it end up being.

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

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Interviewed by CNN on 13/07/2011 22:37, W3BNR told the world:

> Hmmm.  I upgraded from 2.0.15pre and lost most of my plug-ins.  But I 
> modified 
> the .rdf files and there's only one that I can't get working and that's 
> FireFTP. 
>   BUT - I'll stay with SM 2.2 - Working fine for me.
> 
> The following DO work with SM 2.2:
> * Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.6 
> (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api)
>  
> (disabled)

You know, if you enable the Compatibility Reporter, you don't even have
to edit the rtf for most of the other extensions.

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Margo Guda]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Ant wrote:

Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.


ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.

I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up this
style with Stylish:

.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
font-weight:bold !important;
}

HTH

Jens

How can I install it in SM2.2? Even with compatibility checking for add ons 
disabled, seamonkey refuses to install this version. I have an older version 
which no longer works and will not update. I already installed the 
compatibility reporter add on, but it has not helped in this case. I would 
really like to get colorful tabs to work again.


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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[WLS]

W3BNR wrote:

On 7/13/2011 8:26 PM Rufus submitted the following:

PhillipJones wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you may
know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.


Thanks for the bad news. Well not much reason to stick around this
newsgroup.

2.2 broke too many things extensions and plugins. No QuickTime. No Pdf
Browser Plugin not Flip4Mac (wmv/wma pluging to work through QuickTime.
And many other. I'm not upgrading.



I'm waiting too. I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the future, and
retain
all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
far as
features went. But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I get a
look at
full-up Lion. Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.



Hmmm. I upgraded from 2.0.15pre and lost most of my plug-ins. But I
modified the .rdf files and there's only one that I can't get working
and that's FireFTP. BUT - I'll stay with SM 2.2 - Working fine for me.

The following DO work with SM 2.2:
* Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.6
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api)
(disabled)
* Autofill Forms 0.9.5.2 (https://blueimp.net/mozilla/)
* BetterPrivacy 1.51 (http://netticat.ath.cx/extensions.html)
* ChatZilla 0.9.87 (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.10 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Display Mail User Agent 1.6.5
(http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/dispmua.html)
* DownloadHelper 4.9.3 (http://www.downloadhelper.net)
* JavaScript Debugger 0.9.88.2 (http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/)
* Password Exporter 1.2.1 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Quote Colors 0.3 (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
* ShowIP 1.1 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)





FireFTP works with SM 2.2.

http://fireftp.mozdev.org/
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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Ant]

> I'm waiting too.  I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
> something that doesn't work.  Hopefully it will work in the future, and
> retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.
>
> Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as
> far as features went.  But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I
> get a look at full-up Lion.  Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.

v2.0.x was the best to me. I am waiting for v2.2+ to be stable and
working extensions (need them without hacking!).
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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

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On 7/13/2011 8:26 PM Rufus submitted the following:

PhillipJones wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you may
know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.


Thanks for the bad news. Well not much reason to stick around this
newsgroup.

2.2 broke too many things extensions and plugins. No QuickTime. No Pdf
Browser Plugin not Flip4Mac (wmv/wma pluging to work through QuickTime.
And many other. I'm not upgrading.



I'm waiting too. I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to
something that doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the future, and retain
all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.

Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as far as
features went. But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I get a look at
full-up Lion. Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.



Hmmm.  I upgraded from 2.0.15pre and lost most of my plug-ins.  But I modified 
the .rdf files and there's only one that I can't get working and that's FireFTP. 
 BUT - I'll stay with SM 2.2 - Working fine for me.


The following DO work with SM 2.2:
* Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.6 
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/?src=api) 
(disabled)

* Autofill Forms 0.9.5.2 (https://blueimp.net/mozilla/)
* BetterPrivacy 1.51 (http://netticat.ath.cx/extensions.html)
* ChatZilla 0.9.87 (http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.10 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Display Mail User Agent 1.6.5 
(http://www.juergen-ernst.de/addons/dispmua.html)
* DownloadHelper 4.9.3 (http://www.downloadhelper.net)
* JavaScript Debugger 0.9.88.2 (http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/venkman/)
* Password Exporter 1.2.1 (http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com)
* PrefBar 5.1.1 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Quote Colors 0.3 (http://quotecolors.mozdev.org/)
* ShowIP 1.1 (http://code.google.com/p/firefox-showip/)



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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Rufus]

PhillipJones wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you may
know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.


Thanks for the bad news. Well not much reason to stick around this
newsgroup.

2.2 broke too many things extensions and plugins. No QuickTime. No Pdf
Browser Plugin not Flip4Mac (wmv/wma pluging to work through QuickTime.
And many other. I'm not upgrading.



I'm waiting too.  I'm too dependent on something that works to switch to 
something that doesn't work.  Hopefully it will work in the future, and 
retain all of the features that make 2.0.14 my preferred web utility suite.


Personally I think that the 1.1.x series of releases were the best, as 
far as features went.  But I'll be sticking with 2.0.14 at least until I 
get a look at full-up Lion.  Then I'll have a new set of decisions to make.


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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[William Greenwood]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/13/11 4:22 PM, William Greenwood wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote:

Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I
am using the most current version of Java.  It is puzzling that it
worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but
I still cannot get the page to work.  Can you elaborate on your point
"You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed
to do?"  What boxes should I check there?

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

When going to URL
   I get message:
"You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version
of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and
try again."

It worked fine with SM2.0.14


I'm not getting any problem.  However, I recall that I had to reset the
Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or
was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?).

1.  On the menu bar, go to [Edit>  Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to
[Advanced].

3.  On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked.

4.  Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go
to [Advanced>  Scripts&  Plugins].

5.  Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked.  You might also want
to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do.



The only two checkboxes that I have checked are:
Change status bar text
Change images

However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts& Plugins pane --
including the Browser checkbox under "Enable JavaScript for" -- should
have any connection to Java.  Java and JavaScript are two completely
different entities.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help> About Plugins].  On the
"Enabled plugins" page, scroll down to "Java(TM) Platform".  What
version number do you see?  I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP.
 You apparently are using a MAC.  The Java download site says: "Apple
supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature
(available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date
version of Java for your Mac."



Try viewing.
If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and
not your setup.

By the way, please bottom-post.  That is, put your new reply below the
quoted messages, not above.  Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org
newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that
convention here.  On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to
top-post as you have been doing.  This is mentioned  in "Netiquette
Guidelines" (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states:

If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context.



I tried   as you
suggested.  It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering
properly?


Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on
the "Brightness" bar below the colored circle.  The default is
background color.

You should see the background color in the rectangle under "Sample
Document" change to match the position of the little ring, and you
should see the number after "Brightness" change as you move the slider
(0 at the far left and 100 at the far right).  Also, the hex color-codes
should change both to the right of the word "Background" and after
"BGCOLOR" in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons.

You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links,
etc.

I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java.  Of
course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web
pages and in Word documents.


I don't think the link rendered correctly since there is no "little ring
in the large colored circle" or "slider" or "radio buttons"... just some
text.


Okay, you have a problem with your configuration.  I got what I
described by selecting the link from your earlier reply, just to make
sure that you had the correct link.

One last suggestion before major surgery:  Try running SeaMonkey in Safe
Mode.  If the installation did not provide a proper way to get that, my
shortcut in Windows has
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode
Safe mode temporarily disables all extensions but not external plugins.

If you still can't get it to work right with Safe Mode, I h

Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[David E. Ross]

On 7/13/11 4:22 PM, William Greenwood wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote:
> Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I
> am using the most current version of Java.  It is puzzling that it
> worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2.
>
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
>>> Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but
>>> I still cannot get the page to work.  Can you elaborate on your point
>>> "You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed
>>> to do?"  What boxes should I check there?
>>>
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
> Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2
>
> When going to URL
>   I get 
> message:
> "You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date 
> version
> of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and
> try again."
>
> It worked fine with SM2.0.14

 I'm not getting any problem.  However, I recall that I had to reset the
 Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 
 (or
 was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?).

 1.  On the menu bar, go to [Edit> Preferences].

 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to
 [Advanced].

 3.  On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is 
 checked.

 4.  Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go
 to [Advanced> Scripts& Plugins].

 5.  Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked.  You might also want
 to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do.

>>
>> The only two checkboxes that I have checked are:
>>  Change status bar text
>>  Change images
>>
>> However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts&Plugins pane --
>> including the Browser checkbox under "Enable JavaScript for" -- should
>> have any connection to Java.  Java and JavaScript are two completely
>> different entities.
>>
>> On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help>About Plugins].  On the
>> "Enabled plugins" page, scroll down to "Java(TM) Platform".  What
>> version number do you see?  I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP.
>> You apparently are using a MAC.  The Java download site says: "Apple
>> supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature
>> (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date
>> version of Java for your Mac."
>>

 Try viewing.
 If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and
 not your setup.

 By the way, please bottom-post.  That is, put your new reply below the
 quoted messages, not above.  Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org
 newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that
 convention here.  On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to
 top-post as you have been doing.  This is mentioned  in "Netiquette
 Guidelines" (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states:
> If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
> summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
> enough text of the original to give a context.

>>> I tried  as you
>>> suggested.  It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering
>>> properly?
>>
>> Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on
>> the "Brightness" bar below the colored circle.  The default is
>> background color.
>>
>> You should see the background color in the rectangle under "Sample
>> Document" change to match the position of the little ring, and you
>> should see the number after "Brightness" change as you move the slider
>> (0 at the far left and 100 at the far right).  Also, the hex color-codes
>> should change both to the right of the word "Background" and after
>> "BGCOLOR" in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons.
>>
>> You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links,
>> etc.
>>
>> I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java.  Of
>> course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web
>> pages and in Word documents.
>>
> I don't think the link rendered correctly since there is no "little rin

Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[William Greenwood]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote:

Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I
am using the most current version of Java.  It is puzzling that it
worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but
I still cannot get the page to work.  Can you elaborate on your point
"You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed
to do?"  What boxes should I check there?

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

When going to URL
  I get message:
"You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version
of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and
try again."

It worked fine with SM2.0.14


I'm not getting any problem.  However, I recall that I had to reset the
Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or
was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?).

1.  On the menu bar, go to [Edit> Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to
[Advanced].

3.  On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked.

4.  Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go
to [Advanced> Scripts& Plugins].

5.  Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked.  You might also want
to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do.



The only two checkboxes that I have checked are:
Change status bar text
Change images

However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts&Plugins pane --
including the Browser checkbox under "Enable JavaScript for" -- should
have any connection to Java.  Java and JavaScript are two completely
different entities.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help>About Plugins].  On the
"Enabled plugins" page, scroll down to "Java(TM) Platform".  What
version number do you see?  I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP.
You apparently are using a MAC.  The Java download site says: "Apple
supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature
(available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date
version of Java for your Mac."



Try viewing.
If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and
not your setup.

By the way, please bottom-post.  That is, put your new reply below the
quoted messages, not above.  Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org
newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that
convention here.  On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to
top-post as you have been doing.  This is mentioned  in "Netiquette
Guidelines" (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states:

If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context.



I tried  as you
suggested.  It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering
properly?


Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on
the "Brightness" bar below the colored circle.  The default is
background color.

You should see the background color in the rectangle under "Sample
Document" change to match the position of the little ring, and you
should see the number after "Brightness" change as you move the slider
(0 at the far left and 100 at the far right).  Also, the hex color-codes
should change both to the right of the word "Background" and after
"BGCOLOR" in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons.

You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links,
etc.

I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java.  Of
course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web
pages and in Word documents.

I don't think the link rendered correctly since there is no "little ring 
in the large colored circle" or "slider" or "radio buttons"... just some 
text.

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[PhillipJones]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you may
know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.

Thanks for the bad news. Well not much reason to stick around this 
newsgroup.


2.2 broke too many things extensions and plugins. No QuickTime. No Pdf 
Browser Plugin not Flip4Mac (wmv/wma pluging to work through QuickTime. 
And many other. I'm not upgrading.


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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[NoOp]

On 07/13/2011 03:11 PM, William Greenwood wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 07/13/2011 07:10 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
>> ...
>>> I just discovered another mystery: when I go to javatester.org with
>>> Seamonkey 2.2 to test my java version it says it is disabled on my
>>> browser, even though all the Seamonkey preference settings indicate
>>> otherwise.  When I run the same test on my Safari browser, it says Java
>>> is enabled for that browser.  Are there some settings I can change in
>>> about:config on Seamonkey?
>>
>> Edit|Preferences|Advanced| tick - 'Enable Java'
>>
> It is enabled.

You might try unenabling & reenabling. Check in about:config & enter
java in the filter. You should have:
security.enable_java;true
Also in the same, check to see what the library name is etc. Example:
java.java_plugin_library_name;javaplugin_oji

Do you by chance have prefbar installed? If so, check to ensure that the
'Java' box has a check in it. Other than that I can think of any other
suggestions at the moment.

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:24:20 -0700, /Ant/:


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


SeaMonkey 2.0.* is based on Gecko 1.9.1.*/Firefox 3.5.* and as you 
may know Mozilla has officially ended support/updates for Firefox 3.5.*.


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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[William Greenwood]

NoOp wrote:

On 07/13/2011 07:10 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
...

I just discovered another mystery: when I go to javatester.org with
Seamonkey 2.2 to test my java version it says it is disabled on my
browser, even though all the Seamonkey preference settings indicate
otherwise.  When I run the same test on my Safari browser, it says Java
is enabled for that browser.  Are there some settings I can change in
about:config on Seamonkey?


Edit|Preferences|Advanced| tick - 'Enable Java'


It is enabled.
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Ant]

On Jul 13, 12:56 am, Jens Hatlak  wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> > Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
> > it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.
>
> ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.
>
> I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up
> this style with Stylish:
>
> .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
>    font-weight:bold !important;
>
> }

Thanks. :)
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Ant]

On Jul 13, 5:56 am, Lucas Levrel  wrote:
> Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :
>
> > I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next
> > to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me!
> > :(
>
> If you have several tabs open it should.
> Prefs > Browser > Tabbed browsing > Warn me when...

Nope. It exits with ctrl-q hotkeys without any warnings/promptings on
my home (updated XP Pro. SP3) and office (updated 64-bit Windows 7 HP)
PCs. :(
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Re: Open seamonkey so it can choose a specific Profile (Mac)

[Chris Ilias]

On 11-07-13 1:29 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

If I download 2.2 how do I start first time so that I can choose what
profile to use. When I tried 2.1 and didn't like it I created a second
profile? I want to open into that second profile.

By the way I use a Mac. So I can rename one and have both work.


If you already have more than one profile, the profile manager should 
appear when you start SeaMonkey, asking you to choose which profile to 
use. There is also a checkbox called "Don't ask at startup", so if 
you're not being prompted to choose a profile, I assume you check marked 
that box.


To start the SeaMonkey profile manager on Mac, first make sure SeaMonkey 
is not running.

Open the Terminal app.
Enter the following:
/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -p
And press [Return].

A quick and easy way to paste that file path is to command-click on the 
SeaMonkey app, which will show it in the Finder. Then control-click on 
SeaMonkey and choose "Show Package Contents". You can then navigate to 
/Contents/MacOS/, then drag seamonkey-bin to the Terminal window.


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FF 5.0.1 - mapping to SM 2.2?

[Philipp van Hüllen]

Hi,

is a SM 2.2.1 planned with the Mac OS 10.7 (and 10.5 Java) related fixes 
included in FF 5.0.1?


I don't think, I will jump to 10.7 ASAP, but I'd feel better, if I 
could. ;-)

(Though SM 2.3 might be out already, when I move...)


Regards
Philipp
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Re: Open seamonkey so it can choose a specific Profile (Mac)

[PhillipJones]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/13/11 10:29 AM, PhillipJones wrote:

If I download 2.2 how do I start first time so that I can choose what
profile to use. When I tried 2.1 and didn't like it I created a second
profile? I want to open into that second profile.

By the way I use a Mac. So I can rename one and have both work.


You can open the Profile Manager instead of SeaMonkey.  I'm not sure how
to do it on a Mac.  With Windows, I have a shortcut that has
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -profileManager
having installed SeaMonkey in the non-standard location SeaMonkey2
instead of Program Files.

Also, with Windows, I have a shortcut to open SeaMonkey in a specific
profile.  Without that shortcut, SeaMonkey opens in the last profile
used during the previous session.  That shortcut has
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -p David
David being the name of my preferred profile.


Well I downloaded 2.2 installed switch to my alternate Profile.

Complete disaster. Emails That had Graphics would not download graphics
killed dead half my Plugins and all but three or four extensions

I use a PDF Browser Plugin that I just updated. not there. QuickTime not 
there.


when click link to adobe Forums. Can't even find the forum  goes to 
another link that ends up blank. Looks like Javascript doesn't even work 
on websites.



You can have these new versions I am sticking with something that work 
will work.

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Re: Open seamonkey so it can choose a specific Profile (Mac)

[David E. Ross]

On 7/13/11 10:29 AM, PhillipJones wrote:
> If I download 2.2 how do I start first time so that I can choose what 
> profile to use. When I tried 2.1 and didn't like it I created a second 
> profile? I want to open into that second profile.
> 
> By the way I use a Mac. So I can rename one and have both work.

You can open the Profile Manager instead of SeaMonkey.  I'm not sure how
to do it on a Mac.  With Windows, I have a shortcut that has
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -profileManager
having installed SeaMonkey in the non-standard location SeaMonkey2
instead of Program Files.

Also, with Windows, I have a shortcut to open SeaMonkey in a specific
profile.  Without that shortcut, SeaMonkey opens in the last profile
used during the previous session.  That shortcut has
C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -p David
David being the name of my preferred profile.

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Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)

[David E. Ross]

On 7/13/11 9:32 AM, JohnQPublic wrote:
> "David E. Ross"  wrote in message
> news:abqdnvazvuh7j4dtnz2dnuvz_sydn...@mozilla.org...
>> On 7/12/11 11:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>>> On 2011/07/12 06:24 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed:
>>>
 My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in
 SeaMonkey
 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically
 (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for
 example.
>>>
>>> Tab text size and tab height are theme dependent. SM tabs are shorter in
>>> Modern
>>> theme than in default theme, the latter of which was close in height to
>>> the FF
>>> default last I checked. The only time I see the default theme is in a new
>>> profile in the few seconds between initial startup, changing theme to
>>> Modern,
>>> and restarting.
>>>
 It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and
 in
 the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations,
 but
 the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with
 me
 if the font size were increased at all of those locations.
>>>
 Is there any way?
>>>
>>> I've been controlling mine via userChrome.css for probably at least 7
>>> years.
>>
>> This goes in the chrome folder in your profile (not the chrome folder in
>> the SeaMonkey root).  If you don't already have a file named
>> userChrome.css, copy the userChrome-example.css and rename it to be
>> userChrome.css.
>>
>> Edit userChrome.css to contain the following:
>> /* Font size on tabs */
>> .tabbrowser-tab { font-size: 110% !important }
>>
>> The first line is merely a comment to document the second line.  You can
>> vary the "110%" to suit your needs, but 110% is perfect for me.  Be sure
>> to heed the warning about not removing the @namespace line.
> 
> Thanks! Works fine. My .css file is growing.
> 
> I wonder if these .css tweaks of the SeaMonkey GUI are all available in a
> list somewhere? Or is it just hand-me-down, one-at-a-time info? I know
> nothing about .css but can play monkey-see, monkey-do... :)

I asked the same question yesterday in a different thread and a bit
differently.  I asked if there is a user-oriented document on tweaking
userChrome.css and userChrome.css.  The answer is "No".

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Re: Classic default theme works with 2.014 and not the newer updates

[sean nathan bean]

David E. Ross sent us the following::


No, I haven't yet updated to SM 2.2.  I've got too many other tasks to
do on the Web to risk having to devote time to tweaking a new version.
It took too long to get all my necessary extensions from SM 2.0.14
working with SM 2.1 and to set preferences that changed to go through
that bother again right now.


fwiw, all of my extensions carried over and worked just fine between 21. 
and 2.2 when i upgraded yesterday...


sean




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Open seamonkey so it can choose a specific Profile (Mac)

[PhillipJones]

If I download 2.2 how do I start first time so that I can choose what 
profile to use. When I tried 2.1 and didn't like it I created a second 
profile? I want to open into that second profile.


By the way I use a Mac. So I can rename one and have both work.
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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[PhillipJones]

Ant wrote:

On 7/12/2011 11:55 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


will there be security updates (2.1.1, ...) for the 2.1 release or is
2.2 the official update for 2.1 and no more updates for < 2.2 are
planned?


2.2 is the security update for 2.1.

We're not clear yet if we will release an update for 2.0.x, but we are
leaning toward no. It mostly depends on the uptake of our Major Update
when we release it, as well as the severity/ease-of-fixing of any
potential security vulns that are discovered which affect SeaMonkey 2.0.x


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.


Read the writing on the wall ant. Users don't count. Its racing to look 
like chrome or IE. Developers rule.


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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[PhillipJones]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 7/13/2011 1:37 AM, Manuel Reimer wrote:

Hello,

will there be security updates (2.1.1, ...) for the 2.1 release or is
2.2 the official update for 2.1 and no more updates for < 2.2 are
planned?



2.2 is the security update for 2.1.

We're not clear yet if we will release an update for 2.0.x, but we are
leaning toward no. It mostly depends on the uptake of our Major Update
when we release it, as well as the severity/ease-of-fixing of any
potential security vulns that are discovered which affect SeaMonkey 2.0.x

But we are done with 2.1 now.

Boy I hate That (as far as update for 2.0.14 Goes.  Tried 2.1 kills too 
many of my extension.  Have to go bay a chart to remember my user names 
and passwords by for Financial, Bank and Credit card.


Change stuff to look and feel like chrome. But hey Users don't count.

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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[NoOp]

On 07/13/2011 07:10 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
...
> I just discovered another mystery: when I go to javatester.org with 
> Seamonkey 2.2 to test my java version it says it is disabled on my 
> browser, even though all the Seamonkey preference settings indicate 
> otherwise.  When I run the same test on my Safari browser, it says Java 
> is enabled for that browser.  Are there some settings I can change in 
> about:config on Seamonkey?

Edit|Preferences|Advanced| tick - 'Enable Java'

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Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)

[JohnQPublic]

"David E. Ross"  wrote in message
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> On 7/12/11 11:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>> On 2011/07/12 06:24 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed:
>>
>>> My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in
>>> SeaMonkey
>>> 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically
>>> (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for
>>> example.
>>
>> Tab text size and tab height are theme dependent. SM tabs are shorter in
>> Modern
>> theme than in default theme, the latter of which was close in height to
>> the FF
>> default last I checked. The only time I see the default theme is in a new
>> profile in the few seconds between initial startup, changing theme to
>> Modern,
>> and restarting.
>>
>>> It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and
>>> in
>>> the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations,
>>> but
>>> the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with
>>> me
>>> if the font size were increased at all of those locations.
>>
>>> Is there any way?
>>
>> I've been controlling mine via userChrome.css for probably at least 7
>> years.
>
> This goes in the chrome folder in your profile (not the chrome folder in
> the SeaMonkey root).  If you don't already have a file named
> userChrome.css, copy the userChrome-example.css and rename it to be
> userChrome.css.
>
> Edit userChrome.css to contain the following:
> /* Font size on tabs */
> .tabbrowser-tab { font-size: 110% !important }
>
> The first line is merely a comment to document the second line.  You can
> vary the "110%" to suit your needs, but 110% is perfect for me.  Be sure
> to heed the warning about not removing the @namespace line.

Thanks! Works fine. My .css file is growing.

I wonder if these .css tweaks of the SeaMonkey GUI are all available in a
list somewhere? Or is it just hand-me-down, one-at-a-time info? I know
nothing about .css but can play monkey-see, monkey-do... :)
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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[David E. Ross]

On 7/13/11 5:38 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 07/12/2011 04:41 PM, William Greenwood wrote:
>>> Following instructions for Mac users at java.com , I have confirmed
>>> through Software Update that I am using the most current version of
>>> Java.  It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with
>>> recently installed 2.2.
>>
>> Please bottom post on this list. What exactly is the Java version?
>>
>>>
>>> NoOp wrote:
>> ...
 And just which version do you have installed?  Go to http://java.com -
 click on the 'Do I have Java' link&   then 'Verify Java version' on the
 next page. If you have the most recent version, it should return
 something like:

 Verified Java Version
 Congratulations!
 You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26).


>>
> Running version 1.6.0_26 on Mac OS10.6.8

The latest version for Windows is 1.6.0_26-b03, which corresponds to
version 6 update 26 or 6.0.260.3.  I believe the "b03" stands for "build
3".  Don't ask me why there are so many different version numbers for
the same version.

In any case, you seem to have the current version.

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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[David E. Ross]

On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote:
>>> Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I
>>> am using the most current version of Java.  It is puzzling that it
>>> worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2.
>>>
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
> Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but
> I still cannot get the page to work.  Can you elaborate on your point
> "You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed
> to do?"  What boxes should I check there?
>
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote:
>>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
>>> Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2
>>>
>>> When going to URL
>>>  I get 
>>> message:
>>> "You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version
>>> of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and
>>> try again."
>>>
>>> It worked fine with SM2.0.14
>>
>> I'm not getting any problem.  However, I recall that I had to reset the
>> Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or
>> was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?).
>>
>> 1.  On the menu bar, go to [Edit>Preferences].
>>
>> 2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to
>> [Advanced].
>>
>> 3.  On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked.
>>
>> 4.  Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go
>> to [Advanced>Scripts&Plugins].
>>
>> 5.  Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked.  You might also want
>> to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do.
>>

 The only two checkboxes that I have checked are:
Change status bar text
Change images

 However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts&   Plugins pane --
 including the Browser checkbox under "Enable JavaScript for" -- should
 have any connection to Java.  Java and JavaScript are two completely
 different entities.

 On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help>   About Plugins].  On the
 "Enabled plugins" page, scroll down to "Java(TM) Platform".  What
 version number do you see?  I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP.
You apparently are using a MAC.  The Java download site says: "Apple
 supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature
 (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date
 version of Java for your Mac."

>>
>> Try viewing.
>> If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and
>> not your setup.
>>
>> By the way, please bottom-post.  That is, put your new reply below the
>> quoted messages, not above.  Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org
>> newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that
>> convention here.  On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to
>> top-post as you have been doing.  This is mentioned  in "Netiquette
>> Guidelines" (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states:
>>> If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
>>> summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
>>> enough text of the original to give a context.
>>
> I tried  as you 
> suggested.  It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering 
> properly?

Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on
the "Brightness" bar below the colored circle.  The default is
background color.

You should see the background color in the rectangle under "Sample
Document" change to match the position of the little ring, and you
should see the number after "Brightness" change as you move the slider
(0 at the far left and 100 at the far right).  Also, the hex color-codes
should change both to the right of the word "Background" and after
"BGCOLOR" in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons.

You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links,
etc.

I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java.  Of
course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web
pages and in Word documents.

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Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)

[David E. Ross]

On 7/12/11 11:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2011/07/12 06:24 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed:
> 
>> My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in SeaMonkey
>> 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically
>> (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for
>> example.
> 
> Tab text size and tab height are theme dependent. SM tabs are shorter in 
> Modern
> theme than in default theme, the latter of which was close in height to the FF
> default last I checked. The only time I see the default theme is in a new
> profile in the few seconds between initial startup, changing theme to Modern,
> and restarting.
> 
>> It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and in
>> the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations, but
>> the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with me
>> if the font size were increased at all of those locations.
> 
>> Is there any way?
> 
> I've been controlling mine via userChrome.css for probably at least 7 years.

This goes in the chrome folder in your profile (not the chrome folder in
the SeaMonkey root).  If you don't already have a file named
userChrome.css, copy the userChrome-example.css and rename it to be
userChrome.css.

Edit userChrome.css to contain the following:
/* Font size on tabs */
.tabbrowser-tab { font-size: 110% !important }

The first line is merely a comment to document the second line.  You can
vary the "110%" to suit your needs, but 110% is perfect for me.  Be sure
to heed the warning about not removing the @namespace line.

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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[William Greenwood]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote:

Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I
am using the most current version of Java.  It is puzzling that it
worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but
I still cannot get the page to work.  Can you elaborate on your point
"You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed
to do?"  What boxes should I check there?

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

When going to URL
 I get message:
"You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version
of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and
try again."

It worked fine with SM2.0.14


I'm not getting any problem.  However, I recall that I had to reset the
Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or
was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?).

1.  On the menu bar, go to [Edit>Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to
[Advanced].

3.  On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked.

4.  Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go
to [Advanced>Scripts&Plugins].

5.  Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked.  You might also want
to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do.



The only two checkboxes that I have checked are:
Change status bar text
Change images

However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts&   Plugins pane --
including the Browser checkbox under "Enable JavaScript for" -- should
have any connection to Java.  Java and JavaScript are two completely
different entities.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help>   About Plugins].  On the
"Enabled plugins" page, scroll down to "Java(TM) Platform".  What
version number do you see?  I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP.
   You apparently are using a MAC.  The Java download site says: "Apple
supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature
(available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date
version of Java for your Mac."



Try viewing.
If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and
not your setup.

By the way, please bottom-post.  That is, put your new reply below the
quoted messages, not above.  Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org
newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that
convention here.  On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to
top-post as you have been doing.  This is mentioned  in "Netiquette
Guidelines" (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states:

If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context.


I just discovered another mystery: when I go to javatester.org with 
Seamonkey 2.2 to test my java version it says it is disabled on my 
browser, even though all the Seamonkey preference settings indicate 
otherwise.  When I run the same test on my Safari browser, it says Java 
is enabled for that browser.  Are there some settings I can change in 
about:config on Seamonkey?

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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Lucas Levrel]

Le 12 juillet 2011, Ant a écrit :

I use hot keys: ctrl-w. Just be careful not to hit q key that is right next 
to it to exit SM. I wished I could change it or at least have SM2 prompt me! 
:(


If you have several tabs open it should.
Prefs > Browser > Tabbed browsing > Warn me when...

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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[William Greenwood]

NoOp wrote:

On 07/12/2011 04:41 PM, William Greenwood wrote:

Following instructions for Mac users at java.com , I have confirmed
through Software Update that I am using the most current version of
Java.  It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with
recently installed 2.2.


Please bottom post on this list. What exactly is the Java version?



NoOp wrote:

...

And just which version do you have installed?  Go to http://java.com -
click on the 'Do I have Java' link&   then 'Verify Java version' on the
next page. If you have the most recent version, it should return
something like:

Verified Java Version
Congratulations!
You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26).





Running version 1.6.0_26 on Mac OS10.6.8
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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem

[William Greenwood]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote:

Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I
am using the most current version of Java.  It is puzzling that it
worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but
I still cannot get the page to work.  Can you elaborate on your point
"You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed
to do?"  What boxes should I check there?

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0)
Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

When going to URL
 I get message:
"You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version
of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and
try again."

It worked fine with SM2.0.14


I'm not getting any problem.  However, I recall that I had to reset the
Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or
was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?).

1.  On the menu bar, go to [Edit>Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to
[Advanced].

3.  On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked.

4.  Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go
to [Advanced>Scripts&Plugins].

5.  Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked.  You might also want
to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do.



The only two checkboxes that I have checked are:
Change status bar text
Change images

However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts&   Plugins pane --
including the Browser checkbox under "Enable JavaScript for" -- should
have any connection to Java.  Java and JavaScript are two completely
different entities.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help>   About Plugins].  On the
"Enabled plugins" page, scroll down to "Java(TM) Platform".  What
version number do you see?  I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP.
   You apparently are using a MAC.  The Java download site says: "Apple
supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature
(available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date
version of Java for your Mac."



Try viewing.
If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and
not your setup.

By the way, please bottom-post.  That is, put your new reply below the
quoted messages, not above.  Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org
newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that
convention here.  On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to
top-post as you have been doing.  This is mentioned  in "Netiquette
Guidelines" (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states:

If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context.


I tried  as you 
suggested.  It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering 
properly?

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Ant]

On 7/12/2011 11:55 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


will there be security updates (2.1.1, ...) for the 2.1 release or is
2.2 the official update for 2.1 and no more updates for < 2.2 are
planned?


2.2 is the security update for 2.1.

We're not clear yet if we will release an update for 2.0.x, but we are
leaning toward no. It mostly depends on the uptake of our Major Update
when we release it, as well as the severity/ease-of-fixing of any
potential security vulns that are discovered which affect SeaMonkey 2.0.x


I really hope v2.0.14 gets minor updates like Firefox v3.6.x.
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Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed

[Jens Hatlak]

Ant wrote:

Does ColorfulTabs extension still work and help? In v2.0.x and earlier,
it helped. I haven't upgraded to v2.2 yet.


ColorfulTabs 4.8.1.6.1 works with compatibility checks disabled.

I configured it to apply a host-based coloring. Additionally I set up 
this style with Stylish:


.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
  font-weight:bold !important;
}

HTH

Jens

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Re: Will there be security updates for 2.1?

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 7/13/2011 1:37 AM, Manuel Reimer wrote:

Hello,

will there be security updates (2.1.1, ...) for the 2.1 release or is
2.2 the official update for 2.1 and no more updates for < 2.2 are planned?



2.2 is the security update for 2.1.

We're not clear yet if we will release an update for 2.0.x, but we are 
leaning toward no. It mostly depends on the uptake of our Major Update 
when we release it, as well as the severity/ease-of-fixing of any 
potential security vulns that are discovered which affect SeaMonkey 2.0.x


But we are done with 2.1 now.

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