Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
JAS wrote: chicagofan wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Jim Taylor wrote: chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj Works for me Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.3.1. It works for me in version 2.3.1 on WinXP. Thanks guys, now that I know it *will* work for you, I will try again after updating to 2.3.1. :) When I tried it before from the Google images search page, the mechanics didn't work. ;)[I'm on XP.] bj Works for me on 2.0.14 Win xp http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2609/googlesj.jpg I like it! I'm so jealous!!! :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
chicagofan wrote: > BIll Spikowski wrote: >> Jim Taylor wrote: >> >>> chicagofan wrote: >>> Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj >>> Works for me Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.3.1. Go to www.google.com and at >>> the top of the page there is: Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping >>> Gmail more >>> >>> Click Images and you get the Images search page: >>> >>> "New! Now you can use an image to start your Google search. >>> Learn more, or try it now by dragging one of these images into the >>> search box above. " >>> >> >> It works for me in version 2.3.1 on WinXP. >> > > Thanks guys, now that I know it *will* work for you, I will try again > after updating to 2.3.1. :) > > When I tried it before from the Google images search page, the > mechanics didn't work. ;)[I'm on XP.] > bj > > Works for me on 2.0.14 Win xp http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2609/googlesj.jpg -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Deleting the DigiNotar CA certificate
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/deleting-diginotar-ca-cert Easy to do in SeaMonkey 2.0.14 through the dropdown preferences menu. Presumably it's easy in later versions as well. Also, good article here laying out the issue: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/30/fraudulent_google_cert_update/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade
Mike wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing Right-click the toolbar and choose customize. You can add a native Google Search box to the right of the address bar (ala Firefox) from there. True, but you cannot add the old search options as found in the previous Google Search Bar. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
chicagofan wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. What does it mean to "use images on the search page" ? Philip Taylor There is a background picture/image [you have chosen], with the Google search box in the middle of it. :) Like Windows wallpaper, if you will. ;) bj Here's an example of what I'm talking about on the Google site: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/freeze-frame.html bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using ONE profile on TWO machines
Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to use the _identical_ profile on *TWO* different WinXP Pro machines. One machine is a desktop slowly recovering from a disk crash a service department that decided to do some things their way rather than as customer requested. The second machine is a backup laptop with its own set of longevity issues. I wish they profiles to reside on a USB so I can just plug it into the appropriate machine. The critical thing is having all my mail and newsgroups intact and up-to date. Leaving mail on my ISP's mail server is not acceptable. I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.8. I know I'm revisions behind. I tried updating and whatever the latest I had downloaded did not work well on my laptop so I reverted. What keyword should I search for and where? TIA I do something similar but with two desktop computers. One is my main computer and the other is a backup computer. What I do is copy the entire profile folder on my main computer onto a USB drive and then copy it to the backup computer. I haven't tried to move it back to the main computer. C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ctsvjduh.default Your profile will have a different name. I realize you ask how to run the profile from the USB drive and I'm not sure how you would do that. If the USB drive ever fails or malfunctions, your Profile is toast. In your case, when you're ready to use the other computer, copy the entire profile folder to the USB drive and then copy it to the other computer. When you're ready to move back to the other computer, copy it back to the USB drive and then onto the other computer. There are a lot of variables here. Both my computers are Windows XP. The profiles are stored in the same place. I'm using SM 2.3.1. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
BIll Spikowski wrote: Jim Taylor wrote: chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj Works for me Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.3.1. Go to www.google.com and at the top of the page there is: Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Gmail more Click Images and you get the Images search page: "New! Now you can use an image to start your Google search. Learn more, or try it now by dragging one of these images into the search box above. " It works for me in version 2.3.1 on WinXP. Thanks guys, now that I know it *will* work for you, I will try again after updating to 2.3.1. :) When I tried it before from the Google images search page, the mechanics didn't work. ;)[I'm on XP.] bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj Well, I suggest, that the first thing you should do, is to get on some computer that already has FF or Chrome (or IE) installed, such as for example in a library, and try to see if this feature actually exists. I have FF and have tried it ... but it wouldn't work for me. Just wondered if others could with SM, and I should start looking for what is blocking it on my system. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. What does it mean to "use images on the search page" ? Philip Taylor There is a background picture/image [you have chosen], with the Google search box in the middle of it. :) Like Windows wallpaper, if you will. ;) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade
Michael Gordon wrote: Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing Right-click the toolbar and choose customize. You can add a native Google Search box to the right of the address bar (ala Firefox) from there. -- Mike ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Why not use startpage.com or duckduckgo.com rather than google? Eliminate the hassle and the privacy-invasion. Missing Tools: Almost all the familiar tools I used on a daily basis are missing because they are not compatible with this newer version of SeaMonkey. Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing, but still available with Internet Explorer. When I need to perform research and development on the Web I can still open Internet Explorer and perform the research I need for a project. Michael Gordon Because I have been using Google for several years and their search tools have proven to be very useful. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about 2.0.14 -> 2.3.1 upgrade.
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a 64bit WIN 7 Ultimate system. I just downloaded the SM 2.3.1 program binary from www.seamonky-project.org and ran the installer exe. (after a full backup of the profile and program folders) Sounds like a good idea (backup), but should not have been necessary unless you plan to go back to an earlier version [not recommended] The installer ran in a flash, and now I'm supposedly at SM 2.3.1 The installer only updates your install itself, not the profile. It will also update the normal links to SeaMonkey from your desktop/start menu if you select those choices. But I'm curious and just a bit apprehensive. Did that upgrade installation carry out all those profile conversions that were discussed and argued about here, such as the bookmarks database conversion et.c. ? The first run of SeaMonkey 2.3.1 will do the necessary profile "upgrades" automatically, it should be mostly unnoticeable by you. But if you have a lot of bookmarks it may take a while on first launch. Subsequent launches should appear much faster. I need reassurance :-) I hope that helped. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade
Why not use startpage.com or duckduckgo.com rather than google? Eliminate the hassle and the privacy-invasion. Missing Tools: Almost all the familiar tools I used on a daily basis are missing because they are not compatible with this newer version of SeaMonkey. Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing, but still available with Internet Explorer. When I need to perform research and development on the Web I can still open Internet Explorer and perform the research I need for a project. Michael Gordon -- Thanks! & 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about 2.0.14 -> 2.3.1 upgrade.
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a 64bit WIN 7 Ultimate system. I just downloaded the SM 2.3.1 program binary from www.seamonky-project.org and ran the installer exe. (after a full backup of the profile and program folders) The installer ran in a flash, and now I'm supposedly at SM 2.3.1 But I'm curious and just a bit apprehensive. Did that upgrade installation carry out all those profile conversions that were discussed and argued about here, such as the bookmarks database conversion et.c. ? I need reassurance :-) It did for my Win XP SR3 computer. I noticed the same almost instant install process and came to the conclusion that if the previous installation used the default installation paths then the later upgrades would perform almost instantly. Reason: The installer new exactly where to find the older files to upgrade. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade
Memorandum For: SeaMonkey Developers Subject: Upgrade to V. 2.3.1 History: I have been a loyal user of the Suite applications since Netscape Communicator 4.01. I have made many upgrades and transitions from the older version to the newer versions. Most of the time they went smoothly, the one exception was between Mozilla 1.8 to SeaMonkey 2.0. After spending several hours and days recovering lost files, messages, and bookmarks I waited for many updates in the SeaMonkey experimental tree before trying a new upgrade to 2.3.1. Process: Normally in previous versions it had been stated that the process of uninstalling a previous version was not required before installing an upgrade, however I found a few occasions where the new upgrade did not perform as expected. Uninstalling all versions of the Suite and then installing the latest upgrade did resolve the problems. In view of the recent number of user problems reported in this newsgroup I went back to my older method of upgrading the SeaMonkey Suite by firs downloading the installer file, uninstalling the previous version (2.0), rebooting my Win XP SP-3 computer, and then installing the most recent SeaMonkey version (2.3.1). Result: SeaMonkey (2.3.1) installed without any noticeable problems. The Bookmarks, Address Book, History, and all mail accounts were available as soon as launched. Missing Tools: Almost all the familiar tools I used on a daily basis are missing because they are not compatible with this newer version of SeaMonkey. Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing, but still available with Internet Explorer. When I need to perform research and development on the Web I can still open Internet Explorer and perform the research I need for a project. Overall Impression: This newer version if SeaMonkey (2.1.3) is faster and better at rendering web sites than earlier versions. It still performs very well on secure sites like my bank accounts and Cell Phone Accounts site. One major improvement I have seen is the ability to open and play the Pogo.com games. On SM 2.0 SM would crash every time I loaded a game, this always happened while loading a game, but after several tries it would load the game and I could play the games. Note: SM 1.8 on my laptop did not crash and Internet Explorer on my desktop did not crash. (A bug report was filed, but no indication of a fix was ever received). Overall this new version performs much better than earlier versions and this is what you all have been striving for, good job. I am very pleased with this new upgrade and look forward to the updates for the Add-Ons like themes and extensions. Future Outlook: Now that SM 2.x is a stable release is there a way you can reassure Ad-On developers that their upgraded tools, extensions, themes, and plugins will remain compatible for the long haul (several years)? Good job guys and gals for all the work in developing this very handy tool for the web and mail. Sincerely, Michael Gordon ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Question about 2.0.14 -> 2.3.1 upgrade.
I'm on a 64bit WIN 7 Ultimate system. I just downloaded the SM 2.3.1 program binary from www.seamonky-project.org and ran the installer exe. (after a full backup of the profile and program folders) The installer ran in a flash, and now I'm supposedly at SM 2.3.1 But I'm curious and just a bit apprehensive. Did that upgrade installation carry out all those profile conversions that were discussed and argued about here, such as the bookmarks database conversion et.c. ? I need reassurance :-) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using ONE profile on TWO machines
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 30/08/2011 18:05, Richard Owlett told the world: I wish to use the _identical_ profile on *TWO* different WinXP Pro machines. One machine is a desktop slowly recovering from a disk crash a service department that decided to do some things their way rather than as customer requested. The second machine is a backup laptop with its own set of longevity issues. I wish they profiles to reside on a USB so I can just plug it into the appropriate machine. The critical thing is having all my mail and newsgroups intact and up-to date. Leaving mail on my ISP's mail server is not acceptable. I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.8. I know I'm revisions behind. I tried updating and whatever the latest I had downloaded did not work well on my laptop so I reverted. What keyword should I search for and where? My suggestion would be to use the PortableApps.com version of Seamonkey and install it to your USB drive. Thanks I also had a private response that pointed me to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Sharing_profiles_-_mail That handles some other requirements I had. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using ONE profile on TWO machines
Interviewed by CNN on 30/08/2011 18:05, Richard Owlett told the world: > I wish to use the _identical_ profile on *TWO* different WinXP Pro > machines. One machine is a desktop slowly recovering from a disk > crash a service department that decided to do some things their way > rather than as customer requested. The second machine is a backup > laptop with its own set of longevity issues. > > I wish they profiles to reside on a USB so I can just plug it into > the appropriate machine. The critical thing is having all my mail > and newsgroups intact and up-to date. Leaving mail on my ISP's mail > server is not acceptable. > > I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.8. I know I'm revisions behind. I tried > updating and whatever the latest I had downloaded did not work well > on my laptop so I reverted. > > What keyword should I search for and where? My suggestion would be to use the PortableApps.com version of Seamonkey and install it to your USB drive. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Black Belly. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.3.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Quicktime installer - associated helper application does not exist
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:24:35 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: PhillipJones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: The source of the original message indicates that Marilyn G is using SeaMonkey 2.3.1 for Windows XP. The reason I asked I don't have turned view "all" headers. Which 90 percent here are Windows users. There is always the possibility that 10% are asking a question. Using a Laptop while the with is great, the height is not and view all the header info at one time is a waste of screen real estate. So I leave on the Short listing which only shows from, newsgroup, Date, Subject, and reference number It does scroll nor is the window expandable, or Contracts when you set to all same way you view everything and that's it. By its time it does so you not left with much room to actually read post. You don't have to display full headers all the time, just hit CTRL-U as needed and close the window when done. [...] I use Mnenhy which allows customizing the headers [1] but I also use (even before Mnenhy) the "mailnews.headers.showUserAgent" preference: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Custom_headers#Customize_viewed_headers [1] http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/customheaders.html Also valid options, since they can be turned on or off as needed. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Quicktime installer - associated helper application does not exist
Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:24:35 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: PhillipJones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: The source of the original message indicates that Marilyn G is using SeaMonkey 2.3.1 for Windows XP. The reason I asked I don't have turned view "all" headers. Which 90 percent here are Windows users. There is always the possibility that 10% are asking a question. Using a Laptop while the with is great, the height is not and view all the header info at one time is a waste of screen real estate. So I leave on the Short listing which only shows from, newsgroup, Date, Subject, and reference number It does scroll nor is the window expandable, or Contracts when you set to all same way you view everything and that's it. By its time it does so you not left with much room to actually read post. You don't have to display full headers all the time, just hit CTRL-U as needed and close the window when done. [...] I use Mnenhy which allows customizing the headers [1] but I also use (even before Mnenhy) the "mailnews.headers.showUserAgent" preference: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Custom_headers#Customize_viewed_headers [1] http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/customheaders.html -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
Jim Taylor wrote: > chicagofan wrote: >> Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on >> the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a >> problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for >> this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching >> around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. >> >> Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope >> not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA >> bj >> >> > Works for me Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.3.1. Go to www.google.com and at the top > of the page there is: > Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Gmail more > > Click Images and you get the Images search page: > > "New! Now you can use an image to start your Google search. > Learn more, or try it now by dragging one of these images into the search box > above. " It works for me in version 2.3.1 on WinXP. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj Works for me Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.3.1. Go to www.google.com and at the top of the page there is: Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Gmail more Click Images and you get the Images search page: "New! Now you can use an image to start your Google search. Learn more, or try it now by dragging one of these images into the search box above. " Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Using ONE profile on TWO machines
I wish to use the _identical_ profile on *TWO* different WinXP Pro machines. One machine is a desktop slowly recovering from a disk crash a service department that decided to do some things their way rather than as customer requested. The second machine is a backup laptop with its own set of longevity issues. I wish they profiles to reside on a USB so I can just plug it into the appropriate machine. The critical thing is having all my mail and newsgroups intact and up-to date. Leaving mail on my ISP's mail server is not acceptable. I'm using SeaMonkey 2.0.8. I know I'm revisions behind. I tried updating and whatever the latest I had downloaded did not work well on my laptop so I reverted. What keyword should I search for and where? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
chicagofan wrote: Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj Well, I suggest, that the first thing you should do, is to get on some computer that already has FF or Chrome (or IE) installed, such as for example in a library, and try to see if this feature actually exists. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
chicagofan wrote: > Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the > search page. What does it mean to "use images on the search page" ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem
Last year Google enabled users of their search page to use images on the search page. I have never been able to use this feature. Is this a problem with the SM Google access... or something else? The link for this option never shows up as Google said it would, and searching around their pages, I've never found a way to do it manually. Do I need to use FF or install Chrome, to use that feature? I hope not... I'd really like to use it and would appreciate any advice. TIA bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling
Daniel wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Daniel wrote: Ron Hunter wrote: On 8/29/2011 8:16 AM, Daniel wrote: John wrote: I use SeaMonkey most of the time and Firefox occasionally. I try never to use IE. The web browser and email client are critically important to me, and I think the majority of users would agree. Since Firefox and SeaMonkey embarked on their accelerated release schedule, we've seen several updates incorporating many significant behavioral changes which are causing grief to many users. Along with this we are being encouraged to upgrade promptly because that's the only way to get the latest security patches. Why the big hurry all of a sudden? Changes in program behavior should be fully documented in advance of an upgrade. Users who prefer the behavior of the old version should be given the option to retain it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! The end user should not be forced to be the guinea pig whose feedback becomes the quality control for these programs. Please return to the former more careful release strategy. I worked as an electrical engineer for Motorola for many years. All too often, we had products being sold before they were designed and unrelenting pressure to push them out the door. "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over" was the cynical opinion of many of my colleagues. It seems like the software industry is the same way. Is it really rapid-release?? SeaMonkey 1.0 alpha through to SeaMonkey 1.0.9 - twelve releases over twenty months. SeaMonkey 1.1 alpha through to SeaMonkey 1.1.19 - twenty two releases over forty three months. SeaMonkey 2.0 alpha through to SeaMonkey to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 - twenty two releases over thirty months. Should the question really be *What's the difference??* There are a lot of differences, but the primary one is that the new release system includes NOT just bug and security fixes, but NEW FEATURES. There is also an ongoing User Interface redesign that is taking place slowly since FF4. I can't see that just how they choose to number releases affects any aspect of either use, or utility, of a release. Getting new features, and other 'non-bug/security' fixes to the user-base as quickly as possible means the FF can remain competitive in a rather difficult market. I, for one, think the new system is fantastic, and makes the product more useful, and more 'current'. What numbers are applied, I will let others discuss because it doesn't matter to me. The point, which I apparently failed to make, is that SM updates have always happened fairly often, so I don't see what the problem with six weekly updates is?? Daniel, There should not be any problem with the "weekly updates" as long as the first in the series contains fully documented changes to how important user tools and option perform. Example: When upgrading from SM 2.0 to 2.1 all user tools and options that have been improved from the previous version need to be fully documented within the application Help Files. Major security fixes need to be fully documented where those fixes may change the behavior over the older version. When making a minor version change (2.0.1 to 2.0.2) or (2.2.1 to 2.2.2) for security patches those changes must not change any user tools or operations. If a security patch is required that will affect user options then a new version level needs to be created with full documentation. Full documentation does not mean disclosing the code base in question, but dose mean how the changes will affect user experience with the new upgrade. Failure to perform these simple tasks will drive more users back to MS Internet Explorer and Outlook. Conclusion: The number of security patches is very important to keep our applications secure from the nasty world of Hackers and Crackers trying to infect our computers. At the same time the new and improved updates/upgrades must document the changes and how they may affect user experience. I don't mind having one, two, or three security upgrades a week if those upgrades do not affect how I use SM, and if they may affect my use of SM how do the changes affect how I use SM. Michael G Michael, back a bit I reported that I was having a problem so, after upgrading, when I clicked on the Browser Icon (I normally just start in Mail & News), I was being taken to a SeaMonkey-Project page which advised of the problems/improvements made in the upgrade rather than my Home Group. This was a desired situation (by the developers) which, I think, could be switched off in prefs.js Has this function been changed?? In an upgrade it may have changed some basic preferences. When you write the "Browser Icon" are you referring to the SeaMonkey icon on your desktop? You can change how SM opens in the Edit/Preferences/Appearance by selecting the options to open mail and browser. By selecting both mail and browser your mail will open on top of the web browser. The only way I know of to open just the mail
Re: Hello
On Tuesday, August 30, 2011 07:39:27 AM Liebig Industries wrote: > Please help. > > I am running Linux Suse 11.4 > and Seamonkey 2.0.11 > > After updaiting my system (frequently by Linux) > Seamonkey does not run any more. > > I have to use my CD with Linux and upgrade it with this older Version > and Seamonkey is running again. > > Is this problem known? > > Thank you for your help > Best regards > Fritz Liebig Where did you get Seamonkey from. The 11.4 repos have a later version for 11.4. I am running the latest for 11.4 (seamonkey-2.3-4.1.x86_64 ) with no major issues. Did you use YaST to install it? Did you install the 64 bit version or 32 bit version? Do you have the 11.4 update repo in YaST enabled? URL: http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/ -- Russ openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.6.5 (4.6.5) "release 7"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA- Linux-x86_64-275.21_k2.6.37.1_1.2-6.1) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hello
Liebig Industries wrote: Please help. I am running Linux Suse 11.4 and Seamonkey 2.0.11 After updaiting my system (frequently by Linux) Seamonkey does not run any more. I have to use my CD with Linux and upgrade it with this older Version and Seamonkey is running again. Is this problem known? Thank you for your help Best regards Fritz Liebig You updated SeaMonkey to version 2.0.14 or later, and it doesn't start, or updates to your Linux cause the problem? I see SM 2.3-4.1 available in YaST > Software Management as well as SM 2.0.14-0.2.1 under versions. I prefer to install manually and always download and install SeaMonkey from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ -- SeaMonkey 2.3.1 (or as I call it 1.0.67) on openSUSE 11.3 Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Hello
Please help. I am running Linux Suse 11.4 and Seamonkey 2.0.11 After updaiting my system (frequently by Linux) Seamonkey does not run any more. I have to use my CD with Linux and upgrade it with this older Version and Seamonkey is running again. Is this problem known? Thank you for your help Best regards Fritz Liebig -- _Liebig Industries_ We are selling used machines for the Electronic Industry Axial machines, Sequencer, Radial etc. Service for Dynapert,Universal and UMG machines Please visit our Homepage! http://www.fliebig.de _Liebig Industries _ Dolintschitschach 7 9143 St. Michael bei Bleiburg Austria Tel.: +43-720-978798 +49-2151-7479791 +39-06-98356727 Fax: +43-4235-44178 Mobile +43-664-73187675 VAT: ATU 65609111 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Quicktime installer - associated helper application does not exist
PhillipJones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: The source of the original message indicates that Marilyn G is using SeaMonkey 2.3.1 for Windows XP. The reason I asked I don't have turned view "all" headers. Which 90 percent here are Windows users. There is always the possibility that 10% are asking a question. Using a Laptop while the with is great, the height is not and view all the header info at one time is a waste of screen real estate. So I leave on the Short listing which only shows from, newsgroup, Date, Subject, and reference number It does scroll nor is the window expandable, or Contracts when you set to all same way you view everything and that's it. By its time it does so you not left with much room to actually read post. You don't have to display full headers all the time, just hit CTRL-U as needed and close the window when done. Marilyn's post contained this in the header: X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110820 Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3.1,gzip(gfe) Yours had this: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Firefox/4.0.1 As you can see, it's fairly easy to deduce the OS from the UA string, if you're so inclined. But I agree that it's more convenient and more courteous to state it clearly in the original query. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Quicktime installer - associated helper application does not exist
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/29/11 7:04 PM, PhillipJones wrote: Marilyn G wrote: I went to the addons page. I clicked on the line to check for updates. It sent me to a mozilla firefox page that shows my addons and which ones need to be updated. I click on the first one for Quicktime. It sends me to a Quicktime page. I click the download button, it starts to download. At the end I get that it failed and this message. C:\DOCUME~1\Marilyn\LOCALS~1\Temp\QuickTimeInstaller-4.exe could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. This is not the only program that will not open. I also have a coupon printer that gets the same message, as well as adobe and many of the other addons. Someone explain to me what the associated helper application is and where do I find it. Marilyn By any chance are you using a Mac? exe files are windows files. The source of the original message indicates that Marilyn G is using SeaMonkey 2.3.1 for Windows XP. The reason I asked I don't have turned view "all" headers. Which 90 percent here are Windows users. There is always the possibility that 10% are asking a question. Using a Laptop while the with is great, the height is not and view all the header info at one time is a waste of screen real estate. So I leave on the Short listing which only shows from, newsgroup, Date, Subject, and reference number It does scroll nor is the window expandable, or Contracts when you set to all same way you view everything and that's it. By its time it does so you not left with much room to actually read post. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
