Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version
denewton wrote: Hello, With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the search button, to get diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP). I reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again. What is brocken ? sincerly Bertrand Just to confirm your problem. Google search button was also inactive on both my desktop and laptop. Also reverted back for same reason. Thanks for posting I thought it may have been an OS problem M ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Thread hijacking
What does any of the following have to do with SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack, the original topic of the thread in which you posted ? If you want to start yet another pointless flame war on so-called list etiquette, please do so in a new thread, don't hijack the original one. Thank you. NoOp wrote: On 09/29/2011 05:27 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java, wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream? I think that you've been reminded of this before, but if not I'll repeat: http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html quote Top-posting vs bottom-posting. Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon. The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting. /quote ... Please refrain from 'Top-posting'. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP! (PROBLEM SOLVED)
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 11:27, dirk told the world: thank you, but I forgot to mention that the flash player does actually work in Google Chrome and in Internet Explorer but NOT in Seamonkey nor in Firefox. Well, that's because they are DIFFERENT Flash players. Chrome has a copy of Flash built in, so it doesn't care if you have it installed or not. IE (and IE-derived browsers, such as Maxthon) needs a special version (ActiveX) installation. All other browsers, like Seamonkey, Firefox, Opera, Safari -- including Iron, which is a modified version of Chrome -- share a common installation of Flash, separate from the one IE uses. Note also that there are two flash applets: Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin (current version 10.3.183.10) Adobe Shockwave Player 11.6 (current version 11.6.1.629) Thanks guys, all working now!! DJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
Le 29 septembre 2011, d...@kd4e.com a écrit : In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java, wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream? There exists IcedTea (at least on Linux, which you are using). Not as good as the original, though (some applets won't work). -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IN SHORT: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 released
Hi Callek! Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: Hey, I just wanted to mention, semi-official-like that SeaMonkey 2.4.1 is now out. This fixes *only* the issue with addons disappearing that was also the cause of Firefox 7.0.1. I'll get a more official looking announcement up tomorrow, (today was my birthday, so prior plans occupied most of my day, and a bit of actual release work to make sure I could get this out). So i say *Happy Birthday*! Greetings from Augsburg, Germany Mike -- *** TmoWizard *** ircs://irc.freenode.net:7070/tmowizard http://mikespeier.cwsurf.de/wordpress/ Little things i do directly, miracles take a somewhat longer and after midnight will be conjured! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Do I still need version 2.0.14
I still have Seamonkey version 2.0.14 in my list of add/remove programs, do I still need it, I've updated to 2.4.1? Please advise. Eric ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
THAT'S NOT an answer - PLEASE REFRAIN TO INSIST - YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE ETIQUETTE WHEN NOT ANSWERING. NoOp wrote: On 09/29/2011 05:27 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java, wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream? I think that you've been reminded of this before, but if not I'll repeat: http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html quote Top-posting vs bottom-posting. Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon. The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting. /quote ... Please refrain from 'Top-posting'. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Blocking all versions of Java on all versions of Firefox + SeaMonkey? Yes. Seriously? Yes, as it's a security hazard and we don't know of any plans of Oracle to fix it. Are you referring to this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689661 [Block Java Plugin due to security vulnerabilities (BEAST TLS and bug in same-origin-policy)] Yes. Doing that kills sites that use java. Example: http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php Yes. Users can easily turn on/off java using prefbar. Doesn't apply to the majority of users that don't even know what prefbar is. Users will be able to turn it on again if they must, but it's a security risk. I agree with you, java is a bad open door for nasty things. Nobody need unexpected program to run on their computer. How to kill Java on my machine (win7) and/or when using IE(or SM) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14
Eric wrote: I still have Seamonkey version 2.0.14 in my list of add/remove programs, do I still need it, I've updated to 2.4.1? Normally you better remove the old-one before installing the new-one. I don't know what could happen... If i had this situation i will do: 1. Stop all SM running. 2. Remove Programs SM-2.0.14 3. Remove Programs SM-2.4.1 4. Add Programs SM-2.4.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14
Eric wrote: I still have Seamonkey version 2.0.14 in my list of add/remove programs, do I still need it, I've updated to 2.4.1? I keep a copy of 2.0.14 on a less-used machine because there are still some sites that work with 2.0.14 and which have caused severe (intractable) problems with 2.2+ Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Sailfish wrote: Win8 is a closed system. Apple can get away with it because of their ability to inspire with the hardware and software design. Android is open and is now selling more smartphones/tablets than even Apple, let alone WinPhone7. Why should Mozilla put anything more than a meager effort into Win8? Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Actually, Microsoft is providing the advantage of a Windows runtime (WinRT) that will run on both tablets and conventional computers. It's hard to believe that WinRT will not become available for Windows phone development also. Unless WinRT/Metro fails completely, this is a very big market that can be addressed by a single WinRT version of the browser. WinRT also has the advantage that it can be programmed directly in C++ (though the interaction with the Metro UI requires an extended version of C++ called C++/CX). Much better than using Objective C or Dalvik, IMHO. But currently, the only Metro/WinRT browser is Internet Explorer 10. One interesting feature of it is that it does not allow plug-ins, not even Silverlight. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)
MCBastos schrieb: Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 16:23, NoOp told the world: I've had no issues with that in SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (linux) so far. BTW: that preference (browser.urlbar.trimURLs) doesn't exist in mine. AFAIK this has not been implemented in Seamonkey yet (if it ever will, that is... SM users don't seem to care much for it), only in Firefox. Ah, well, I do care and I do want to see the complete protocol and URL the browser (and the remote side) is processing. So the current SM status is perfectly fine for me and should not be changed. BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)
Philipp van Hüllen wrote: MCBastos schrieb: Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 16:23, NoOp told the world: I've had no issues with that in SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (linux) so far. BTW: that preference (browser.urlbar.trimURLs) doesn't exist in mine. AFAIK this has not been implemented in Seamonkey yet (if it ever will, that is... SM users don't seem to care much for it), only in Firefox. Ah, well, I do care and I do want to see the complete protocol and URL the browser (and the remote side) is processing. So the current SM status is perfectly fine for me and should not be changed. Hear hear. Although few, there /are/ sites for which http://example.org/element and http://example.org/element/ lead to different documents -- it is therefore essential that the trailing slash be shewn. And, like my near-namesake Phillip, I too want to see the leading protocol, the www. (if present), and so on -- all are equally important and none should be hidden. Microsoft have /still/ not seen the stupidity of hiding file extensions by default; let us /please/ not follow them down this route to insanity. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Manual update return: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey ....
xp sp2 Seamonkey 2.2 When manually checking for updates, i get: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update. Please contact your network provider and seek help. Does anyone know what that is all about? jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Manual update return: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey ....
jim wrote: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update. Probably relevant : http://kb.mozillazine.org/Software_update#Update_Failed._Something_is_trying_to_trick_Firefox_into_accepting_an_insecure_update ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.4 and Mac OS 10.6.8
No problems here with 2.4 on WinXP Paul Bergsagel wrote: My experience with the SeaMonkey 2.4 is not good. Has anyone else found that SeaMonkey 2.4 is not all that stable. It crashes at least once an hour. Here is what the release notes had to report about the 2.4 release: Most notably, this release features for the first time: Drastically improved memory use Fixed several stability issues. I am finding that SeaMonkey 2.4 (at least on Mac OS) uses more NOT less memory. It is stated that SeaMonkey 2.4 fixed several stability issues. My experience of v 2.3 was very stable. Before v 2.4 I cannot remember when SeaMonkey unexpectedly quit. Now with v 2.4 SeaMonkey crashes (unexpectedly quits) about once an hour. This is not a complaint. I am generally pleased with SeaMonkey, but if something is not done about the crashes I may have to revert to SeaMonkey 2.3. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.4 and Mac OS 10.6.8
Paul Bergsagel schrieb: Has anyone else found that SeaMonkey 2.4 is not all that stable. It crashes at least once an hour. It's working perfectly stable for me. (On MacOS 10.7.1.) I got few add-ons and the usual mix of plug-ins. (Though I keep those - especially Flash - pretty up to date.) I did not check the memory usage yet. Though I do get the impression, that Lion as such sucks in this regard... BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Manual update return: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey ....
jim schrieb: xp sp2 Seamonkey 2.2 When manually checking for updates, i get: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update. Please contact your network provider and seek help. Does anyone know what that is all about? I remember, that 2.3.1 had an update of certificates related to update procedures, since the old once were being replaced soon. (And sooner expiring than originally expected by developers.) http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3/changes#fixes231 Could be the old ones have expired in the meantime? In that case, manual download of SM 2.3.1 or any newer should bring you back to automatic updates. BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IN SHORT: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 released
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: And we are quietly back to third level (x.y.z) bug fix releases of SM. :-) Not quietly. Those are planned but hopefully avoidable in the rapid release cycle. Any fixup needed between the regular 6-week releases gets a third level number, like SeaMonkey 2.4.1 and Firefox 7.0.1 have. Keep them coming! Please not. They only mean we need to fix up something more often than every 6 weeks, and that's bad. I'd rather have larger user communities testing in the 12 weeks of stabilization that Aurora and Beta represent. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Manual update return: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey ....
jim schrieb: xp sp2 Seamonkey 2.2 When manually checking for updates, i get: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update. Please contact your network provider and seek help. Does anyone know what that is all about? Yes. SeaMonkey 2.1-2.3 can't receive updates from our servers any more because they accepted only a single certificate issuer for those updates, and our old certificate expired but the issuer doesn't hand out certificates any more, having been bought by a different one. SeaMonkey 2.3.1 and higher accept the new one and an additional fallback now, 2.0.x didn't have the restriction in the first place. In conclusion: You need to manually download a new version and install it this time, then you will get correct updates again in the future. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
Ray_Net schrieb: How to kill Java on my machine (win7) and/or when using IE(or SM) On SM it should be as easy as going into the Add-ons Manager, select Plugins, and deactivate it from there. No idea about Windows/IE as I keep my hands off proprietary software as much as I can. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
NoOp schrieb:
I'm not sure I fully understand (or probably ever will)...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665814
{(CVE-2011-3389) Rizzo/Duong chosen plaintext attack on SSL/TLS 1.0
(facilitated by websockets -76)]
doesn't seem to indicate java, but instead nss as being the issue. So,
to be clear: is it a java or nss issue?
Java uses its own TLS stack, which is vulnerable as described in the bug
on plugins (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665814#c90
mentions that this has been split off into
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688008), and Java allows
sockets to any site, which can trigger the attack, and Oracle has not
yet made any comments that they even intend to work on the problem.
The NSS stack is vulnerable in theory, but under our control, so we can
fix it, and will do so. To trigger the attack, HTTPS connection need to
be made in a certain way, though, and we have no code in Firefox or
SeaMonkey right now that does that. Websockets protocol -76 was a way to
trigger that, but we have not been implementing this protocol version
since Firefox 5 and SeaMonkey 2.2, we are now implementing a newer
protocol version of Websockets which cannot trigger that attack.
So, NSS is basically vulnerable, but we don't have any code that opens
network connections in a way that would actually allow the attack. We
still will fix NSS in future versions so that any change in how we're
doing connections will also not expose us to the attack. (Note that
Chrome is using NSS as well, and they're in the same situation as us
here and will ship probably exactly the same fix in the future.)
We can't fix Java, and Java applets are exploitable as things stand, so
our only possibility is to reduce/block usage of the vulnerable
versions, which are all we know about right now, and Oracle has not made
any commitment to fixing the problem in future versions.
I hope that explains the problem enough.
Robert Kaiser
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Re: Windows 8 Metro
On 9/30/2011 6:04 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Sailfish wrote: Win8 is a closed system. Apple can get away with it because of their ability to inspire with the hardware and software design. Android is open and is now selling more smartphones/tablets than even Apple, let alone WinPhone7. Why should Mozilla put anything more than a meager effort into Win8? Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? Actually, Microsoft is providing the advantage of a Windows runtime (WinRT) that will run on both tablets and conventional computers. It's hard to believe that WinRT will not become available for Windows phone development also. Unless WinRT/Metro fails completely, this is a very big market that can be addressed by a single WinRT version of the browser. WinRT also has the advantage that it can be programmed directly in C++ (though the interaction with the Metro UI requires an extended version of C++ called C++/CX). Much better than using Objective C or Dalvik, IMHO. But currently, the only Metro/WinRT browser is Internet Explorer 10. One interesting feature of it is that it does not allow plug-ins, not even Silverlight. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Ron Hunter wrote: On 9/30/2011 6:04 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? OMG :-( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14
On 9/30/2011 6:16 AM, Eric wrote: I still have Seamonkey version 2.0.14 in my list of add/remove programs, do I still need it, I've updated to 2.4.1? Sometimes Windows lists in add/remove programs only the version you first installed, and not the one you currently have (after updates) If you have SeaMonkey 2.4.1 listed in add/remove I would say you *should* be ok with removing 2.0.14. If anything acts up/feels wrong you can easily reinstall from www.seamonkey-project.org and all will be well, the uninstall process does not uninstall your profile (stored in a separate dir). Our internal upgrade process should be all that is needed, of course. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Manual update return: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey ....
On 9/30/2011 10:03 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: jim schrieb: xp sp2 Seamonkey 2.2 When manually checking for updates, i get: Something is trying to trick Seamonkey into accepting an insecure update. Please contact your network provider and seek help. Does anyone know what that is all about? Yes. SeaMonkey 2.1-2.3 can't receive updates from our servers any more because they accepted only a single certificate issuer for those updates, and our old certificate expired but the issuer doesn't hand out certificates any more, having been bought by a different one. SeaMonkey 2.3.1 and higher accept the new one and an additional fallback now, 2.0.x didn't have the restriction in the first place. In conclusion: You need to manually download a new version and install it this time, then you will get correct updates again in the future. This is all correct, I plan[ned] to have an addon and announcement this week about that switch/issue for broader audience. Sadly however that got delayed by the need to do a 2.4.1. Roberts Solution here is your best solution in the short term. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Made a Big Mistake !
On 9/29/11 9:31 PM, DoctorBill wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 9/25/11 9:33 PM, DoctorBill wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 9/25/11 5:35 PM, DoctorBill wrote: I have both SeaMonkey 1.1 and 2.0 on my desktop. I have been purposefully using SM 1.1 because I like the way my Tabs worked with Pirro's Tabbed Browser. Solike an idiot, when a message came up to update the Adobe Flash Player - I did it. Fool. Now SM 1.1 blows out (Windows closes it) on certain Forums that I go to. http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/ for one. Is there a way to reverse this or go back to before I updated Adobe Flash Player ? ...or better yet, can I fix it ? I hope so. DoctorBill Don't you like the tabs that are inherent in SM 2? Reading what I said, I don't appreciate the 2.0 tabs. I have the menu set to trow up new tabs with each new link clicked. It doesn't do it ! I have to right click every new link and choose open in a new tab. If it did so as the menu says it should, I would be fine with SM 2.0. If you know how to make 2.0 behave, please clue me in. I deleted the New Adobe Flashplayer and the plugin and installed a non-IE version and all appears well now. DoctorBill I see that you are using a PC with some form of Windows. The following requires that you have a 3-button mouse or a 2-button mouse with a scroll wheel. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Browser Tabbed Browsing]. On the Tabbed Browsing pane, select the checkbox (to put a checkmark in it) for Middle-click, Ctrl+click [etc] near the bottom under Open tabs instead of windows for. Select the OK button. If you have a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel, you are not yet done. At the left of the Windows task bar, select [Start Settings Control Panel]. On the Control Panel window, select (double-click) Mouse. On the Mouse Properties window, select the Buttons tab. On the Buttons pane, select Button 3 and then the Modify button. On the Modify Button Function window, select the down-pointing triangle to get a selection list; and select Middle Button. Select the OK button on the Modify Button Function window and then the OK button on the Mouse Properties window. Now, when you place your cursor over a link and click the middle button or scroll wheel, the link will open a Web page in a new tab. Note that, with SeaMonkey 2, tabs can be dragged into a new order (e.g., moving the 2nd tab to after the 4th tab). No. The above does not work ! I had the tabbed browser already set to what you told me. I have a two button mouse with a scroll wheel set to double click when pressing the wheel down. SM 2.0 acts like IE - that is, no tabs come up when a link is pressed. I HAVE to right click and choose open a new tab for it to work ! WHY would this SM, version 2 . 0 .14 do that ? It's like it is ignoring the choices ! DoctorBill You have set the scroll wheel to double-click when pressed. This is a Windows setting, not a SeaMonkey setting. You must change the Windows setting to Middle Button. Re-read the third paragraph of my prior reply. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Ron Hunter wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? I don't know if the app-store will be the only way to install Metro apps, but doesn't the open Android have an App store also? I am multi-booting Windows 8 with Windows 7 on my PC right now, so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Not so easy to multi-boot an Android or IOS device, anyway. I have mixed feelings about Metro myself, but I think that a common runtime and user experience over the whole range of devices is an attractive concept, and one that will give Microsoft an edge. In any case, Microsoft is betting the farm on this concept, so it's very likely to happen. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
On 30.09.2011 10:28, David Wilkinson wrote: --- Original Message --- Ron Hunter wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? I don't know if the app-store will be the only way to install Metro apps, but doesn't the open Android have an App store also? I am multi-booting Windows 8 with Windows 7 on my PC right now, so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Not so easy to multi-boot an Android or IOS device, anyway. I have mixed feelings about Metro myself, but I think that a common runtime and user experience over the whole range of devices is an attractive concept, and one that will give Microsoft an edge. In any case, Microsoft is betting the farm on this concept, so it's very likely to happen. Please take this non-Seamonkey support issue elsewhere, such as mozilla.general .. thanks. Followup set to .general rather than maintaining the cross-post which shouldn't have been set in the first place. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Jay Garcia wrote: Followup set to .general rather than maintaining the cross-post which shouldn't have been set in the first place. Follow-up doesn't make it across the NNTP : Mail gateway; Reply-to is still set to support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
On 30.09.2011 10:42, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: Followup set to .general rather than maintaining the cross-post which shouldn't have been set in the first place. Follow-up doesn't make it across the NNTP : Mail gateway; Reply-to is still set to support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org. Philip Taylor Setting the followup has nothing to do with the mailing list that I am aware of. If you reply to this post, it will be posted in mozilla.general and will go also to out to the reply-to address if set. I see no reply-to set on this post/reply. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IN SHORT: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 released
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Hey, I just wanted to mention, semi-official-like that SeaMonkey 2.4.1 is now out. This fixes *only* the issue with addons disappearing that was also the cause of Firefox 7.0.1. I'll get a more official looking announcement up tomorrow, (today was my birthday, so prior plans occupied most of my day, and a bit of actual release work to make sure I could get this out). Happy Birthday, and thanks for all you do! Barbara ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14
Ray_Net wrote: Normally you better remove the old-one before installing the new-one. And what if the new one doesn't work, then you have nothing. The only limitation to the number of versions you can have available on the HDD is space on that drive. When looking for a bug insertion date/time I have had as many as twenty. I currently have SM 1.1.9, 3.3.3, 2.4, and 2.4.1 with run objects on the task bar. I am typing this in SM 2.4.1. When I read the 2.4.1 announcement, I started a stop watch. In just under four minutes I had 2.4.1 downloaded and sitting alongside all the others and a shortcut on the task bar that calls SM 2.4.1 and uses my standard SM2X profile. Having multiple versions available does not have to be a big deal. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Questions about updating to 2.4
Paul Bergsagel wrote: chicagofan wrote: Preparing for an update, if I backup the Seamonkey2 folder I created for my last install, does it include *everything* I need, should I have problems with the 2.4 install? I've got some old mozilla.org files on my system, which gave me pause. Also, can I update from SM 2.0.10 directly? TIA bj Before I would back up to SeaMonkey 2.4 I would make sure I had a backed up copy of SeaMonkey 2.3 (or the most recent version of SeaMonkey you have) as well as your SeaMonkey profile (include the profiles of all users on your computer). That's what I intend to do, but didn't know, because of the way WinXP spreads files to a Document folder, etc., if the the Seamonkey 2.o folder I have in the Programs folder is all I need to backup. I have other Mozilla folders on my pc too. You should be reminded that you can use your existing SeaMonkey profile with a new version of SeaMonkey, but it is not recommended to revert to an older version. So if something does not work for you with the update to 2.4 you can revert to v2.3 and your profile will still function. Also you will want a recent backup of the SeaMonkey profile for those just in case situations. These are the cases were something goes wrong with the update and you are left saying, What do I do now? I should have backed up my profile. Also there are some posts in this newsgroup from users who have lost all their bookmarks or emails and did not have a recent backup. All of those posts are what have me concerned, especially since many of them were people using more recent versions than mine is. That's why I wasn't sure I could skip the 2.3 version, and go from 2.0 to 2.4. Thanks for your response. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Questions about updating to 2.4
chicagofan wrote: That's what I intend to do, but didn't know, because of the way WinXP spreads files to a Document folder, etc., I use WinXP. It will spread files only if you allow it to. You can put the Mozilla apps, profiles, mail, news in any directory on any drive that Win can access. I do not have any part of Mozilla on the boot drive. Nor is the data - profiles, mail, news - on the same drive as the apps. Once you get these hings separated you can add apps quickly, easily and without fear of data loss. And you can share data cross-app and cross-platform. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Jay Garcia wrote: Setting the followup has nothing to do with the mailing list that I am aware of. If you reply to this post, it will be posted in mozilla.general and will go also to out to the reply-to address if set. I see no reply-to set on this post/reply. If I just reply, it will go to you and you alone. If I reply/all, it will go (as you will see, from this reply) to you, support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org and (putatively) mozilla.general. In practice, I don't think it will make it to the last : there is nothing in the headers of a test message to indicate any gatewaying onto NNTP -- Sender: Philip TAYLOR chaa...@gmail.com Message-ID: 4e85f69e.9000...@rhul.ac.uk Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:04:30 +0100 From: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902; Firefox/6.0.2 compatible; SeaMonkey/2.3.3 To: Philip TAYLOR (Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk Subject: Test References: l4ydncltryvgir7tnz2dnuvz_t-dn...@mozilla.org cjmdneypmkng0b7tnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org amkdnwcfhp8fmb7tnz2dnuvz_jidn...@mozilla.org jf-dnadtqlizxh7tnz2dnuvz_jodn...@mozilla.org o9udnzwjjl3tpxjtnz2dnuvz_sedn...@mozilla.org d5-dnawjf5vvsxjtnz2dnuvz_hedn...@mozilla.org hpodnudcaqcgfrjtnz2dnuvz_todn...@mozilla.org v-mdnvtevniyfxjtnz2dnuvz_redn...@mozilla.org mailman.11840.1317397338.4544.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org bkodnzrpfpzjcbjtnz2dnuvz_r2dn...@mozilla.org In-Reply-To: bkodnzrpfpzjcbjtnz2dnuvz_r2dn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: EXCH-HUB01.cc.rhul.local X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AVStamp-Mailbox: MSFTFF;1;0;0 0 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Questions about updating to 2.4
Ray Davison wrote: I use WinXP. It will spread files only if you allow it to. You can put the Mozilla apps, profiles, mail, news in any directory on any drive that Win can access. I do not have any part of Mozilla on the boot drive. Nor is the data - profiles, mail, news - on the same drive as the apps. Once you get these hings separated you can add apps quickly, easily and without fear of data loss. And you can share data cross-app and cross-platform. E X A C T L Y. C = System; D = Data; E = Executable images (non O/S programs); S = Swap (or P = Page); T = Temp. A place for everything, and everything in its place (except when a Microsoft-originated program ignores my preferences !). Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
On 09/30/2011 07:17 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
NoOp schrieb:
I'm not sure I fully understand (or probably ever will)...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665814
{(CVE-2011-3389) Rizzo/Duong chosen plaintext attack on SSL/TLS 1.0
(facilitated by websockets -76)]
doesn't seem to indicate java, but instead nss as being the issue. So,
to be clear: is it a java or nss issue?
Java uses its own TLS stack, which is vulnerable as described in the bug
on plugins (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665814#c90
mentions that this has been split off into
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688008), and Java allows
sockets to any site, which can trigger the attack, and Oracle has not
yet made any comments that they even intend to work on the problem.
The NSS stack is vulnerable in theory, but under our control, so we can
fix it, and will do so. To trigger the attack, HTTPS connection need to
be made in a certain way, though, and we have no code in Firefox or
SeaMonkey right now that does that. Websockets protocol -76 was a way to
trigger that, but we have not been implementing this protocol version
since Firefox 5 and SeaMonkey 2.2, we are now implementing a newer
protocol version of Websockets which cannot trigger that attack.
So, NSS is basically vulnerable, but we don't have any code that opens
network connections in a way that would actually allow the attack. We
still will fix NSS in future versions so that any change in how we're
doing connections will also not expose us to the attack. (Note that
Chrome is using NSS as well, and they're in the same situation as us
here and will ship probably exactly the same fix in the future.)
We can't fix Java, and Java applets are exploitable as things stand, so
our only possibility is to reduce/block usage of the vulnerable
versions, which are all we know about right now, and Oracle has not made
any commitment to fixing the problem in future versions.
I hope that explains the problem enough.
Robert Kaiser
It does indeed. Thanks for the details Robert.
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Re: Made a Big Mistake !
David E. Ross wrote: On 9/29/11 9:31 PM, DoctorBill wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 9/25/11 9:33 PM, DoctorBill wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 9/25/11 5:35 PM, DoctorBill wrote: I have both SeaMonkey 1.1 and 2.0 on my desktop. I have been purposefully using SM 1.1 because I like the way my Tabs worked with Pirro's Tabbed Browser. Solike an idiot, when a message came up to update the Adobe Flash Player - I did it. Fool. Now SM 1.1 blows out (Windows closes it) on certain Forums that I go to. http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/ for one. Is there a way to reverse this or go back to before I updated Adobe Flash Player ? ...or better yet, can I fix it ? I hope so. DoctorBill Don't you like the tabs that are inherent in SM 2? Reading what I said, I don't appreciate the 2.0 tabs. I have the menu set to trow up new tabs with each new link clicked. It doesn't do it ! I have to right click every new link and choose open in a new tab. If it did so as the menu says it should, I would be fine with SM 2.0. If you know how to make 2.0 behave, please clue me in. I deleted the New Adobe Flashplayer and the plugin and installed a non-IE version and all appears well now. DoctorBill I see that you are using a PC with some form of Windows. The following requires that you have a 3-button mouse or a 2-button mouse with a scroll wheel. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Browser Tabbed Browsing]. On the Tabbed Browsing pane, select the checkbox (to put a checkmark in it) for Middle-click, Ctrl+click [etc] near the bottom under Open tabs instead of windows for. Select the OK button. If you have a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel, you are not yet done. At the left of the Windows task bar, select [Start Settings Control Panel]. On the Control Panel window, select (double-click) Mouse. On the Mouse Properties window, select the Buttons tab. On the Buttons pane, select Button 3 and then the Modify button. On the Modify Button Function window, select the down-pointing triangle to get a selection list; and select Middle Button. Select the OK button on the Modify Button Function window and then the OK button on the Mouse Properties window. Now, when you place your cursor over a link and click the middle button or scroll wheel, the link will open a Web page in a new tab. Note that, with SeaMonkey 2, tabs can be dragged into a new order (e.g., moving the 2nd tab to after the 4th tab). No. The above does not work ! I had the tabbed browser already set to what you told me. I have a two button mouse with a scroll wheel set to double click when pressing the wheel down. SM 2.0 acts like IE - that is, no tabs come up when a link is pressed. I HAVE to right click and choose open a new tab for it to work ! WHY would this SM, version 2 . 0 .14 do that ? It's like it is ignoring the choices ! DoctorBill You have set the scroll wheel to double-click when pressed. This is a Windows setting, not a SeaMonkey setting. You must change the Windows setting to Middle Button. Re-read the third paragraph of my prior reply. If you go to this screenshot I have made, you will see the Mouse Menu Button Tab of what I get on Windows XP. Copy paste into your browser. http://www.mynetimages.com/4af876a70a.jpg There is no select button 3 nor middle button select. My mouse driver is called Wheel Mouse and the button is set to Double Click http://www.mynetimages.com/3f86134d5d.jpg Were you thinking of what you get with Windows 7 (which I don't use) ? I suppose this won't work w/o using the Microsoft Mouse Driver..h? DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Copernic Desktop Search SeaMonkey?
I see that Google has actually discontinued it's Desktop Search. http://googledesktop.blogspot.com/ Looking for an alternative. Though GDS never did, does Copernic Desktop Search function with SeaMonkey 2.4? Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Made a Big Mistake !
DoctorBill a écrit : If you go to this screenshot I have made, you will see the Mouse Menu Button Tab of what I get on Windows XP. Copy paste into your browser. http://www.mynetimages.com/4af876a70a.jpg There is no select button 3 nor middle button select. No, but there is a Wheel tab. The wheel *is* the third button. My mouse driver is called Wheel Mouse and the button is set to Double Click http://www.mynetimages.com/3f86134d5d.jpg Then change it to middle click! S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
David Wilkinson schrieb: Ron Hunter wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? I don't know if the app-store will be the only way to install Metro apps, but doesn't the open Android have an App store also? Who made you think that Android would be anything similar to open? And yes, there are APKs and alternative app stores for Android, just as Windows 8 will be able to run classic Windows applications as well, both of which doesn't make them open anyhow. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Made a Big Mistake !
S. Beaulieu wrote: DoctorBill a écrit : If you go to this screenshot I have made, you will see the Mouse Menu Button Tab of what I get on Windows XP. Copy paste into your browser. http://www.mynetimages.com/4af876a70a.jpg There is no select button 3 nor middle button select. No, but there is a Wheel tab. The wheel *is* the third button. My mouse driver is called Wheel Mouse and the button is set to Double Click http://www.mynetimages.com/3f86134d5d.jpg Then change it to middle click! S. OK - that worked. You see 'select middle button' is not the same a 'select middle click'. I had to search the long list of available selections to find 'middle click'. The wheel was acting as a button doing a double click function. OK. I thank you two guys ! Should there not be some message on tabbed browser that the mouse has to be set in a certain way for all that stuff to work ? Like an Advanced link button or some such thing ? DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Questions about updating to 2.4
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: A place for everything, and everything in its place (except when a Microsoft-originated program ignores my preferences !). Where Mozilla is concerned, the easy way to take control of where the apps are located is to use the ZIP distribution rather than the EXE. With the ZIP there is no install, you are just copying files from inside a package to a sub-directory. So you sneak it past Window's attempt to think for you. I have determined to location of the app using the EXE but it is more work and you have to be careful. And I will not allow an auto update. I do not get rid of an OS or app until I am sure the replacement is preferable. As for the location of mail, news, cache, those are set from within the app. Profile locations are set in Profilemanager. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ray_Net schrieb: How to kill Java on my machine (win7) and/or when using IE(or SM) On SM it should be as easy as going into the Add-ons Manager, select Plugins, and deactivate it from there. No idea about Windows/IE as I keep my hands off proprietary software as much as I can. Thanks, i have verified - it's disabled. And, i have found for IE9 - http://windows7themes.net/how-to-disable-java-in-ie9.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14
Ray Davison wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Normally you better remove the old-one before installing the new-one. And what if the new one doesn't work, then you have nothing. Before any action, you need to backup your profile and have some versions of the profile. When you install a new version, you need to store in the C:\ADDON\SM\versionx\ all the executables you need for that version. So when the new one doesnot work, you will do: Remove Programs SM-new-version Copy the profile-old-version as profile Install the SM-old-version. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
On 9/30/2011 10:28 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: Ron Hunter wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? I don't know if the app-store will be the only way to install Metro apps, but doesn't the open Android have an App store also? Remains to be seen, but NOT ALL Android phones are open. I am multi-booting Windows 8 with Windows 7 on my PC right now, so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Not so easy to multi-boot an Android or IOS device, anyway. I have mixed feelings about Metro myself, but I think that a common runtime and user experience over the whole range of devices is an attractive concept, and one that will give Microsoft an edge. Well, from my point of view, I will stick with Windows7 until I am forced to replace hardware, which will NOT have Windows 8 on it. I will not be shoe-horned into a screen presentation that doesn't accommodate itself to MY preferences, and needs. The ugly, inflexible, and annoying 'tiles' are an abomination. In any case, Microsoft is betting the farm on this concept, so it's very likely to happen. The farm will sell cheap as a result to this misguided excursion into child-friendly computing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sea 2.5 Beta 1 Issue or local problem?
Hey Guys, I just updated my local copy of SeaMonkey Beta to 2.5 Beta 1 from 2.4 Beta 3... I then noticed that it was warning me about DOMi being 2.0.11pre and not compat (a pre I can understand) which means I had run this profile with a different newer SeaMonkey version at some point What I did was uninstall DOMi, then restarted, then tried to install it from AMO directly, that was failing, (stuff in error console about sql) and then after restarting a few times, was STILL failing. After trying a few random other extension installs, and getting further errors even after a restart, I gave up. In my profile renamed my addons.sqlite and tried again with DOMi, and it worked. Compared the two sqlite files and didn't see anything glaring. After that I restored myself to sanity by letting SeaMonkey install all extensions fresh (changing prefs, etc.) Please Please let me know if any of you encounter a similar/same issue. Since my brief check couldn't track it down, and its surely something I need to care about for release if it was more than just personal issues. [I usually try to keep my testing profiles separate from my beta profile, but obviously in this case I made a mistake at some point] -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea 2.5 Beta 1 Issue or local problem?
On 09/30/2011 04:08 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Hey Guys, I just updated my local copy of SeaMonkey Beta to 2.5 Beta 1 from 2.4 Beta 3... I then noticed that it was warning me about DOMi being 2.0.11pre and not compat (a pre I can understand) which means I had run this profile with a different newer SeaMonkey version at some point What I did was uninstall DOMi, then restarted, then tried to install it from AMO directly, that was failing, (stuff in error console about sql) and then after restarting a few times, was STILL failing. After trying a few random other extension installs, and getting further errors even after a restart, I gave up. In my profile renamed my addons.sqlite and tried again with DOMi, and it worked. Compared the two sqlite files and didn't see anything glaring. After that I restored myself to sanity by letting SeaMonkey install all extensions fresh (changing prefs, etc.) Please Please let me know if any of you encounter a similar/same issue. Since my brief check couldn't track it down, and its surely something I need to care about for release if it was more than just personal issues. [I usually try to keep my testing profiles separate from my beta profile, but obviously in this case I made a mistake at some point] There is an issue with the downloads (English US): http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.5b1 both the linux (32bit) and Windows version result in a 0 byte file. The linux 64bit seems to be fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version
On 09/29/2011 11:43 PM, M wrote: denewton wrote: Hello, With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the search button, to get diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP). I reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again. What is brocken ? sincerly Bertrand Just to confirm your problem. Google search button was also inactive on both my desktop and laptop. Also reverted back for same reason. Thanks for posting I thought it may have been an OS problem M Just to confirm your problem, can you try restarting with add-ons disabled and a test profile? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea 2.5 Beta 1 Issue or local problem?
NoOp wrote: On 09/30/2011 04:08 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Hey Guys, I just updated my local copy of SeaMonkey Beta to 2.5 Beta 1 from 2.4 Beta 3... I then noticed that it was warning me about DOMi being 2.0.11pre and not compat (a pre I can understand) which means I had run this profile with a different newer SeaMonkey version at some point What I did was uninstall DOMi, then restarted, then tried to install it from AMO directly, that was failing, (stuff in error console about sql) and then after restarting a few times, was STILL failing. After trying a few random other extension installs, and getting further errors even after a restart, I gave up. In my profile renamed my addons.sqlite and tried again with DOMi, and it worked. Compared the two sqlite files and didn't see anything glaring. After that I restored myself to sanity by letting SeaMonkey install all extensions fresh (changing prefs, etc.) Please Please let me know if any of you encounter a similar/same issue. Since my brief check couldn't track it down, and its surely something I need to care about for release if it was more than just personal issues. [I usually try to keep my testing profiles separate from my beta profile, but obviously in this case I made a mistake at some point] There is an issue with the downloads (English US): http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.5b1 both the linux (32bit) and Windows version result in a 0 byte file. The linux 64bit seems to be fine. Looks like it was probably a temporary issue with some of the mirrors (its working fine for me now) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Default Browser
I'm still using Mozilla 1.78. I only use the mail and newsgroup section. How do I get Mozilla not to be my default browser please? I don't want to go to SeaMonkey. Thanks Henry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea 2.5 Beta 1 Issue or local problem?
On 09/30/2011 05:03 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: ... There is an issue with the downloads (English US): http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.5b1 both the linux (32bit) and Windows version result in a 0 byte file. The linux 64bit seems to be fine. Looks like it was probably a temporary issue with some of the mirrors (its working fine for me now) Seems ok via: http://mozilla.3c.stonekitty.net/seamonkey/releases/2.5b1/win32/en-US/SeaMonkey%20Setup%202.5b1.exe and http://mozilla.3c.stonekitty.net/seamonkey/releases/2.5b1/linux-i686/en-US/seamonkey-2.5b1.tar.bz2 I didn't have a chance to record the mirror from the 0 bytes issue. Given that the mirror links rotate, you might want to see if you can determine the one giving 0bytes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.5 Beta 1 Release -- New Features and Fixes
The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.5 Beta 1: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as the newest Firefox release, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies. SeaMonkey 2.5 Beta 1 is available in 24 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: Users now have more control over their add-ons. Upon upgrade, activation of third-party add-ons needs to be confirmed explicitly. Improvements to HTML5 media elements and added support for new media APIs to improve the overall performance of video and audio Additional support for HTML5 technologies, including the crossorigin attribute and insertAdjacentHTML Updates to WebSockets Support for CORS for WebGL textures Hyphenation is now supported in many more languages Fixed several stability issues For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.5, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.5 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-09-30 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.5 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.4.1 Release -- Corrects Stability Issue
SeaMonkey 2.4.1 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the very latest version. We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. SeaMonkey 2.4.1: Fixed a rare issue where some users could find one or more of their add-ons hidden after an update (see the blog post[1]) Previous SeaMonkey (2.4) had the following changes: Drastically improved memory use Added a new rendering backend to speed up Canvas operations on Windows systems Bookmark and password changes now sync almost instantly when using Sync Added support for text-overflow: ellipsis Added support for the Web Timing specification Fixed several stability issues. Fixed several security issues. Fixed several high visibility usability issues from SeaMonkey 2.3. Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting “Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-09-29 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.4 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements [1] http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/09/28/issue-discovered-with-firefox-add-on-upgrades/ -- Justin Wood (Callek) SeaMonkey Council member, and Release Engineer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 Release -- Corrects Stability Issue
I won't be updating to SeaMonkey 2.4.1. [My OS is MacOS 10.6.8] Why? When I upaded to SeaMonkey 2.4, before the 2.4.1 release, the version 2.4 was horrible. Here is what I experienced: 1. Much worse memory usage. Much higher memory usage. 2. SeaMonkey 2.4 was very unstable. I experienced at least one unexpected quit for SeaMonkey in an hour. 3. SeaMonkey 2.4 appeared to run very sluggishly. Lethargic would be a good descriptor for SeaMonkey 2.4 on MacOS 10.6.8. I love SeaMonkey and appreciate all the work the developers do. My critique is that new releases of SeaMonkey are being too quickly after the previous version. This quick release schedule does not allow enough time for real world testing. As a result bugs and stability issues are creeping into new releases of SeaMonkey. Please consider slowing down the release schedule for SeaMonkey. I hope the developers would allow more time for testing in the real world. Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the very latest version. We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. SeaMonkey 2.4.1: Fixed a rare issue where some users could find one or more of their add-ons hidden after an update (see the blog post[1]) Previous SeaMonkey (2.4) had the following changes: Drastically improved memory use Added a new rendering backend to speed up Canvas operations on Windows systems Bookmark and password changes now sync almost instantly when using Sync Added support for text-overflow: ellipsis Added support for the Web Timing specification Fixed several stability issues. Fixed several security issues. Fixed several high visibility usability issues from SeaMonkey 2.3. Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting “Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-09-29 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.4 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements [1] http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/09/28/issue-discovered-with-firefox-add-on-upgrades/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Ping David E. Ross] Browser sniffing - Another Section 508 for you
http://www.fafsa.ed.gov click 'Start Here' button you see browser incompadibilty list *if* you are using linux versions of Firefox or SeaMonkey. Spoof the browser to show a Windows version of either (note you must use FF 4 or lower - 4 will get you in, but it then shows a warning[1]) and it works. Ditto for linux versions of: Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Opera 11.51 Chromium 13.0.782.215 (Developer Build 97094 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 Google Chrome 14.0.835.186 quote An Incompatible Browser Has Been Detected Your Web browser is not supported by our Web site. You must use a Compliant Web Browser - Standard* to view our site properly. We recommend you upgrade to the latest version of your browser according to your Operating System. Browser Requirements to Access this Site (Listed by Operating System). Supported Microsoft Internet Explorer browsers: Windows XP - Internet Explorer 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0 Windows Vista - Internet Explorer 7.0 and 8.0 Windows 7 - Internet Explorer 8.0 **Instructions for upgrading Microsoft Internet Explorer browsers: Click this link to access Microsoft's Internet Explorer page. Click the Download hyperlink. Click the Download button on the bottom of the page, underneath the Get Internet Explorer 7 heading. Click the Continue button. Leave the Change Language: option as English. We recommend you use your browser's default settings to safeguard your application information and ensure that the Web site works properly. ** Note that Microsoft does not keep older browser versions available to download from their Web site. Supported Mozilla Firefox browsers: Windows XP - Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x and 3.6.x Windows Vista - Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x and 3.6.x Windows 7 - Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x and 3.6.x Macintosh Operating System 10.5 - Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x and 3.6.x Macintosh Operating System 10.4 - Mozilla Firefox 3.6 Instructions for upgrading Mozilla Firefox browser: Click this link to access http://www.mozilla.com/firefox. Click the Download Firefox button. We recommend you use your browser's default settings to safeguard your application information and ensure that the Web site works properly. Supported Apple Safari browsers: Windows XP - Apple Safari 4.x and 5.x Windows Vista - Apple Safari 4.x and 5.x Windows 7 - Apple Safari 4.x and 5.x Macintosh Operating System 10.6 - Apple Safari 5.x Macintosh Operating System 10.5 - Apple Safari 4.x and 5.x Macintosh Operating System 10.4 - Apple Safari 4.x Instructions for upgrading Apple Safari browser: Click this link to access http://www.apple.com/safari/download. Click the Download Safari button. We recommend you use your browser's default settings to safeguard your application information and ensure that the Web site works properly. Supported Google Chrome browsers: Windows XP - Google Chrome 6.0.x Windows Vista - Google Chrome 6.0.x Windows 7 - Google Chrome 8.0.x Windows 7 - Google Chrome 7.0.x Windows 7 - Google Chrome 6.0.x Windows 7 - Google Chrome 5.0.x Macintosh Operating System 10.5 - Google Chrome 6.0.x Instructions for upgrading Google Chrome browser: Click this link to access http://www.google.com/chrome. Click the Download Google Chrome button. We recommend you use your browser's default settings to safeguard your application information and ensure that the Web site works properly. Supported Opera browsers: Windows 7 - Opera 10.x Windows 7 - Opera 9.0.x Macintosh Operating System 10.4 - Opera Mini Instructions for upgrading Opera browser: Click this link to access http://www.opera.com. Click the Download Opera button. We recommend you use your browser's default settings to safeguard your application information and ensure that the Web site works properly. Supported AOL browsers: Windows Vista - AOL 9.0 Windows Vista - AOL 8.0 *Compliant Web Browser - Standard For the past few years, every major Web browser released has been built around a set of open standards designated by the World Wide Web Consortium, a non-profit organization charged with overseeing the continuing development of the Web. What this means is that one piece of code now looks the same on every modern browser, whether it be Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Opera, or others. The majority of our users are using these modern browsers, so we can present content which is optimized for them. /quote [1] Unsupported Browser Detected You are using an unsupported browser and/or operating system, which may result in pages not displaying properly. We recommend that you download a Supported Browser. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Ping David E. Ross] Browser sniffing - Another Section 508 for you
On 09/30/2011 07:20 PM, NoOp wrote: http://www.fafsa.ed.gov click 'Start Here' button you see browser incompadibilty list *if* you are using linux versions of Firefox or SeaMonkey. Spoof the browser to show a Windows version of either (note you must use FF 4 or lower - 4 will get you in, but it then shows a warning[1]) and it works. Ditto for linux versions of: Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Opera 11.51 Chromium 13.0.782.215 (Developer Build 97094 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 Google Chrome 14.0.835.186 Oh, and it barf up the same on on a real: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Have fun let us know if they respond. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Importing E-Mail and Bookmarks (updating them)
I have SM 1.1 and 2.0 both on my desktop. Been using both but kept with 1.1 until I recently learned how to use the Tabbed Browser and my mouse with it. (see 'Made a Big Mistake'). So - I had imported the 1.1 E-Mail and Bookmarks into 2.0 a long time ago. How can I update them now so I can switch to using 2.0 all the time. Do I have to erase what is in 2.0 now and THEN import (update) - or will the new import overwrite the old import ? DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Ping David E. Ross] Browser sniffing - Another Section 508 for you
NoOp wrote: On 09/30/2011 07:20 PM, NoOp wrote: http://www.fafsa.ed.gov click 'Start Here' button you see browser incompatibilty list *if* you are using linux versions of Firefox or SeaMonkey. Spoof the browser to show a Windows version of either (note you must use FF 4 or lower - 4 will get you in, but it then shows a warning[1]) and it works. Ditto for linux versions of: Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Opera 11.51 Chromium 13.0.782.215 (Developer Build 97094 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 Google Chrome 14.0.835.186 Oh, and it barf up the same on on a real: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Have fun let us know if they respond. I especially like what it said at the very bottom of the page: [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3] [BrowserDetectService:OS[WINXP] browser[FIREFOX] browser version[UNKNOWN] AppName[FAFSA1112] detection status [BLOCKED]] Apparently it doesn't recognize Firefox/6.0.2 and wants me to upgrade to v. 3.5 or 3.6. ;-\ -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version
NoOp wrote: On 09/29/2011 11:43 PM, M wrote: denewton wrote: Hello, With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the search button, to get diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP). I reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again. What is brocken ? sincerly Bertrand Just to confirm your problem. Google search button was also inactive on both my desktop and laptop. Also reverted back for same reason. Thanks for posting I thought it may have been an OS problem M Just to confirm your problem, can you try restarting with add-ons disabled and a test profile? Thanks for the suggestion I'll see how I go when I download the latest release 2.4.1 M ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copernic Desktop Search SeaMonkey?
Interviewed by CNN on 30/09/2011 15:08, George Carden told the world: Looking for an alternative. Though GDS never did, does Copernic Desktop Search function with SeaMonkey 2.4? Not directly. But there's a hack I use which works. It involves a (never-EVER-to-be-used) install of Thunderbird. It goes like this: 1. Install Thunderbird. Version 3.1.x is probably the best choice, since Copernic does not officially support newer versions. 2. Run Thunderbird ONCE so it creates its own profile folder. Do not set up any mail account. You should NEVER run this Thunderbird installation again. 3. Hide or delete the Thunderbird shortcuts so you don't run it accidentally. 4. Go to %Appdata%\Thunderbird and open the profiles.ini file with a text editor (Notepad is fine if you don't use a better one). 5. Edit the Path= line to point to your Seamonkey profile. You can use a relative path, such as ../Mozilla/Seamonkey/Profiles/[profilename].default . Save. 6. Restart Copernic, or reboot the machine, or something, so Copernic can notice that you now have Thunderbird. 7. Open Copernic, go to Tools/Options/Emails Organizer and set it up to index your Thunderbird mail folders. Hint: I found it useful to manually disable indexing of deleted items and Spam folders. You might wish to disable indexing of feeds and newsgroups too. About that NEVER run Thunderbird again thing: the reason for this is that there's a fair possibility of Thunderbird modifying the Seamonkey profile -- and in the process, damaging it in some way. Seamonkey profiles have stuff that Thunderbird does not use and probably does not support/understand. It MIGHT be possible to set up a second profile in Thunderbird so if it's started accidentally it won't attempt to open the Seamonkey profile -- but I didn't try it, I have no idea if it would be safe OR if Copernic would index a secondary Thunderbird profile. Better to be safe than sorry. So, no opening Thunderbird. By the way, Copernic recently released version 3.5. It's touted as 64-bit compatible. It's not quite as much 64-bit as their PR would make you believe, but it is a bit of progress. The main app is still mostly 32-bit, but it now understands Office 64-bit (particularly Outlook 64-bit), and they now have a searchbar compatible with Windows 64-bit. Although it seems to be running a little better (not hogging the computer as much) than the previous version. Other than that, the main difference I have seen in the new version is that the free Home version finally got the large-index capability that the Professional and Corporate versions got more than one year ago. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Xerox copier. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14
Interviewed by CNN on 30/09/2011 12:08, Justin Wood (Callek) told the world: On 9/30/2011 6:16 AM, Eric wrote: I still have Seamonkey version 2.0.14 in my list of add/remove programs, do I still need it, I've updated to 2.4.1? Sometimes Windows lists in add/remove programs only the version you first installed, and not the one you currently have (after updates) If you have SeaMonkey 2.4.1 listed in add/remove I would say you *should* be ok with removing 2.0.14. If anything acts up/feels wrong you can easily reinstall from www.seamonkey-project.org and all will be well, the uninstall process does not uninstall your profile (stored in a separate dir). Our internal upgrade process should be all that is needed, of course. From what I remember, Seamonkey 2.0.x was by default installed to a different path than the newer versions. So yes, the poster might have both versions installed. Also from what I remember, if you uninstall 2.0.x AFTER installing a newer version, it takes out all your Seamonkey program shortcuts. The easy fix for that is to reinstall the new SM version. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Z-Machine. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Browser
Interviewed by CNN on 30/09/2011 21:24, Henry told the world: I'm still using Mozilla 1.78. I only use the mail and newsgroup section. How do I get Mozilla not to be my default browser please? I don't want to go to SeaMonkey. Well, I'm not quite sure of what you mean here, but... If you don't want to click on a link in a message in Mozilla 1.78 Mail and the site to be opened on the Mozilla 1.78 browser, I think you are out of luck. While I remember some talk about an obscure setting to make Seamonkey open links in mail on an external browser, this old version might not support it. Anyway, Mozilla 1.7.8 is quite an old product, I believe about six years old, give or take. There have been numerous improvements since then, both in features and security. You really should consider moving to a newer product. If you use only the mail and newsgroup parts of Mozilla/Seamonkey, you might consider trying Thunderbird -- it does not include a browser, web editor or chatzilla, so those components won't take over anything. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my MaxiPad. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Importing E-Mail and Bookmarks (updating them)
Interviewed by CNN on 30/09/2011 23:42, DoctorBill told the world: I have SM 1.1 and 2.0 both on my desktop. Been using both but kept with 1.1 until I recently learned how to use the Tabbed Browser and my mouse with it. (see 'Made a Big Mistake'). So - I had imported the 1.1 E-Mail and Bookmarks into 2.0 a long time ago. How can I update them now so I can switch to using 2.0 all the time. Do I have to erase what is in 2.0 now and THEN import (update) - or will the new import overwrite the old import ? DoctorBill It depends. What would you WANT to do? Do you prefer merging the data saved in both profiles (and risk having a *lot* of duplicates), or do you prefer ignoring the data in the 2.0 profile and keeping just the data from the 1.1 profile? There are procedures for both options. It doesn't have to be the same choice for all types of data, either -- you could, for instance, merge the bookmarks but replace the saved e-mails. Or the reverse. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my corner mailbox. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Ping David E. Ross] Browser sniffing - Another Section 508 for you
On 9/30/11 7:58 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: NoOp wrote: On 09/30/2011 07:20 PM, NoOp wrote: http://www.fafsa.ed.gov click 'Start Here' button you see browser incompatibilty list *if* you are using linux versions of Firefox or SeaMonkey. Spoof the browser to show a Windows version of either (note you must use FF 4 or lower - 4 will get you in, but it then shows a warning[1]) and it works. Ditto for linux versions of: Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Opera 11.51 Chromium 13.0.782.215 (Developer Build 97094 Linux) Ubuntu 10.10 Google Chrome 14.0.835.186 Oh, and it barf up the same on on a real: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Have fun let us know if they respond. I especially like what it said at the very bottom of the page: [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3] [BrowserDetectService:OS[WINXP] browser[FIREFOX] browser version[UNKNOWN] AppName[FAFSA1112] detection status [BLOCKED]] Apparently it doesn't recognize Firefox/6.0.2 and wants me to upgrade to v. 3.5 or 3.6. ;-\ I've submitted two reports to the U.S. Department of Education, to their Technical Support unit. One report was about Firefox 7.0 not being recognized, and the other was about SeaMonkey (any version) not being recognized. I'll wait about a week for a reply. If none (or none acceptable) is received, I will then send a postal letter to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan. HOWEVER, everyone else encountering such problems should also communicate with those in authority to correct them. You should not slough it off onto someone else. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:58:41 -0700, Andrew DeFaria wrote: On 9/30/2011 12:10 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David Wilkinson schrieb: Ron Hunter wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? I don't know if the app-store will be the only way to install Metro apps, but doesn't the open Android have an App store also? Who made you think that Android would be anything similar to open? I can get the source code for Android. Can I get the source code for Windows? Thought so... -- Andrew DeFaria http://defaria.com Did anyone see my lost carrier? You can't get the source code of their development trunk. All you get is released versions Google tosses over the wall of the corporate firewall. I'm not sure but ISTR that there are still some binary blobs from Google that they don't provide source code for. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
