Re: Restoring bookmarks for upgrade to 2.4.1

[M]

Paul wrote:

I started my computer this morning to find I had unwittingly upgraded
from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1. Having experienced a recent trainwreck with the
most recent version of S-M, I went back to one I knew worked, and was
content to leave it there. It was a complete surprise to have
Seamonkey open today in a version I never asked for, and never
knowingly installed, but there it was. All bookmarks were gone, the
password manager was empty, and I was stuck. So I closed the app down,
reinstalled 2.0.14, and things worked again.

Eventually I'll have to upgrade, but before I do, I really need to
know how to retrieve and reactivate bookmarks and the password manager
and so on.

Before you answer, know that I'm running Mac OSX 10.6.8. All the
advice on this topic I've found assumes you're running a Windows
machine. I'm not, and that advice does not apply to my situation.


Using OSX 10.6.8 when I updated from 2.0.14 I had the same problem. I made 
a copy of the html file from the 2.0.14 profile put it on my desktop then 
imported it into 2.4.0 password manager. May be other ways to successfully 
import but this worked for me.


To prevent unwanted upgrade go to Preferences/Advanced/Software 
Installation and Uncheck 'Allow websites to install updates' and 
'Automatically check for updates'


M
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Re: Sync encountered an error...

[sean nathan bean]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) sent me the following::



sean nathan bean wrote:


the last three days i've been getting the following error message:
Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will
automatically retry this action.

anyone else? or just me?


Philip Chee wrote:


On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:57:22 -0400, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

> Rick Merrill wrote:

>> I'm getting lots of hangs with sm2.4
>> and the complaint is "server" messed up!

>
> Its a (now) known issue with the default Sync Server, Mozilla IT are
> working around the clock to try and correct it properly.
>
> Seehttps://services.mozilla.com/status/ for more.

Network Timeout

The operation timed out when attempting to contact services.mozilla.com.

Most of Mozilla is sloow. Bugzilla, the Wiki. The NNTP server seems to
be doing fine (but then it's actually Giganews).

Phil


clicking "check server" takes me to a page which tells me to check 
twitter... w/o giving me the twitter @ handle


sean



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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Firstly when you upgrade to a version of SeaMonkey beyond 2.0.x such as
2.3.3 SeaMonkey will migrate your user profile to a new location. The
profile migration takes place as new versions of Seamonkey have changed
the way certain items are stored. Your bookmarks and passwords (I'm not
sure if there are other items) are now stored in a database file. Using
a database file allows the bookmarks to be more efficient and gain new
functionality. Previously the bookmarks were stored in a html file
(bookmarks.html).

Please note that when the migration from your old profile to the new
one, your old profile is only migrated. Your old profile is left
unchanged and intact. Your bookmarks and passwords are still there in
your old profile.


Incorrect, SeaMonkey 2.0.x to newer does not move your profile to a new 
location.


SeaMonkey 1.x -> 2.0.x does that though.

SeaMonkey 2.0.x and newer use the exact same profile and profile location.

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Links that never stop loading

[DoctorBill]

I have some Forums that I go to often.
Here is the main directory - I go to specific parts.
http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/directory

They seem to load forever and the saved login data does not appear.

Sometimes I can just press the "stop" button (if is is not grayed out) 
and get the login data to appear.


Other times, I press "reload" and it eventually allows login.

I am guessing that this is due to all the crap adverts loading into the 
page not being available quickly.  Am I too far off on that ?

The adverts are not there once one logs in.
Is this the way the forum is made or programmed ?

Anyway - can I do anything about this with some switch or choice in the 
edit menu of SM ?  Still using 1.1 slowly moving over to 2.0.


Its not something that stops things up - just annoying.

I wish I knew more about what causes it to happen.
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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Paul Bergsagel]

Tony Higgins wrote:

I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading
to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade.

When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to
another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get
to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old
location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks.

Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step
instructions?

Thanks,

Tony Higgins


First Tony I am sorry you received so many sarcastic and bordering on 
rude comments.


I will try to help you were I am able. Since I am using MacOS my advice 
may/may not be useful for you.


Firstly when you upgrade to a version of SeaMonkey beyond 2.0.x such as 
2.3.3 SeaMonkey will migrate your user profile to a new location. The 
profile migration takes place as new versions of Seamonkey have changed 
the way certain items are stored. Your bookmarks and passwords (I'm not 
sure if there are other items) are now stored in a database file. Using 
a database file allows the bookmarks to be more efficient and gain new 
functionality. Previously the bookmarks were stored in a html file 
(bookmarks.html).


Please note that when the migration from your old profile to the new 
one, your old profile is only migrated. Your old profile is left 
unchanged and intact. Your bookmarks and passwords are still there in 
your old profile.


Now once you begin to upgrade from 2.0.14 to 2.3.3  and you launch 
version 2.3.3 for the first time you will notice SeaMonkey going through 
the profile migration were all your profile information (bookmarks, 
passwords, email. etc.) is transferred to your new profile.


I suspect if something goes wrong with the profile migration process you 
could delete all traces of the new profile and relaunch SeaMonkey 2.3.3 
and let it go through the migration process again and hopefully your 
profile will be migrated correctly.


AS ALWAYS HERE IS A WARNING BEFORE YOU BEGIN: make a backup Seamonkey 
2.0.14 and your user profile (preferably on external media such as a CD 
or external hard disk). Now if anything goes wrong you can revert to you 
backup and recover SeaMonkey and you profile.


After you backup SeaMonkey 2.0.14 and its profile launch SeaMonkey 2.3.3 
and let it migrate your profile to the new file format and location. 
When the migration has finished SeaMonkey 2.3.3 should open and you 
should be able to use SeaMonkey.


Good luck. I hope this helps. :)
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Attention: Users on older SeaMonkey Versions may be unable to update.

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

For those of you who are reading this and on a SeaMonkey version 2.1 
through 2.3.0 you will be unable to currently update your version of 
SeaMonkey through automated means. (SeaMonkey 2.0.x did not have this 
update security measure, so is unaffected)


WHY:
Our secure certificate for updates, used to protect you, our users, from 
fraud and issues with the update had to be changed. The one we had 
expired and we were unable to renew it with the same information we 
baked into SeaMonkey by default.


WHAT:
We fixed this issue in our version 2.3.1, so if you have that version or 
newer you will not be affected. And no need to worry.


WORKAROUND:
You can manually install a new version from our website at 
www.seamonkey-project.org. Or apply our hotfix


HOTFIX AVAILABLE:
I have created a hotfix addon 
[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/SM-hotfix-update-cert/] you 
can install into your SeaMonkey to once again update to a newer version 
of SeaMonkey via our internal update mechanics. This hotfix currently 
requires a restart of SeaMonkey, though I do plan to update it in the 
future to be a "restartless" addon for the versions I am able to.


NOTES:
This is different than a confusing error that gets reported in versions 
from 2.3.1 and newer that indicates the update server is a wrong 
certificate. This error is reported whenever we check against our 
builtin list, and of course it finds the first one we have listed as 
incorrect and reports it. The next cert in line is found to be ok. So 
this error ends up being a false positive.


Thank You,
~Justin Wood (Callek)
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Yet again, a SPAMmer doesn't put "survey" in the Subject line

[JeffM]

Lila Holt wrote:
>This research is[...]in no way associated with any forum organization.
>
Duh.  That's called Off-Topic, aka SPAM.

>This research is conducted through the University of Tennessee
>
Noted.

>Take a survey
>
Take a hike.
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Restoring bookmarks for upgrade to 2.4.1

[Paul]

I started my computer this morning to find I had unwittingly upgraded
from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1. Having experienced a recent trainwreck with the
most recent version of S-M, I went back to one I knew worked, and was
content to leave it there. It was a complete surprise to have
Seamonkey open today in a version I never asked for, and never
knowingly installed, but there it was. All bookmarks were gone, the
password manager was empty, and I was stuck. So I closed the app down,
reinstalled 2.0.14, and things worked again.

Eventually I'll have to upgrade, but before I do, I really need to
know how to retrieve and reactivate bookmarks and the password manager
and so on.

Before you answer, know that I'm running Mac OSX 10.6.8. All the
advice on this topic I've found assumes you're running a Windows
machine. I'm not, and that advice does not apply to my situation.
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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[hawker]

A bunch of stuff snipped, answers in line below.

In general the confidence issues are not only because of bugs but we 
don't like where the features are going. I realize you are a small team 
and often have to just adopt thunderbird/firefox code but often that 
means a loss of functionality to us or you don't have time to fully 
implement the functionality (such as the Thunderbird search features).


On 10/5/2011 4:03 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

What has changed that I don't like.
I can't stand the new search with Google. I can't get previews in the
left pain.


Well you can switch search provider. (As for the sidebar issue you cite,
I unfortunately don't know enough.)


The issue is not Google. The issue is how the built in side bar search 
works. I liked the old way, I don't like the new way.  As I hear there 
is nothing that can be done about this, changed "plug in" types and the 
new one does not support the old features.




 > I don't like the inline search popping up a box now.

For this, however there is a pref (assuming you mean
search-in-existing-page)... you can go to "Edit->Preferences" ->
"Advanced" -> "Find as you type" and *uncheck* the box for "Show the
find toolbar during find as you type"


Glad to hear.




Then Mail is going downhill fast.


I'm sorry to hear that, most of our mail code is shared with
Thunderbird. But we do still try to stay on top of mail issues. (I
personally know very little about mail backend/code and am primarily a
consumer like you with regard to it)


1) E-mail's composed in Word can no longer be cut and pasted into
Seamonkey mail and be readable from outlook.


Can you provide specific example of this (incl. screenshots) and/or a
bug # for this so I can try and confirm/get a person on it. I have never
liked using Word to pre-compose anything and always compose directly in
mail. But that could surely use some investigation.


Let me know better how I can provide this info for you.
I think the bug is actually in outlook but since so many use outlook we 
have to comply.
What happens is if I cut and paste out of Word (I often do when quoting 
documents) I can read it fine in Seamonkey, Android phone Windows 6.5 
phone, Eudora, Thunderbird, etc. But anyone who tries to read it in 
Outlook sees the formatting commands such as  as text not 
executed.  For whatever reason older versions of Seamonkey did not do this.





2) IMAP is in bad shape, can't get many attachments, often get blank
e-mails, doesn't refresh right, looses e-mail etc. It does not play well
with Exchange server at all. It used to play better in 1.x days and 2.0
days.


I don't have an Exchange server to test with, but IMAP has and does work
well for me with GMail. I do not get many attachements, but I do get
some, and all the ones I have gotten seem to work fine for me. But as I
said above a bug number and specifics would help us track down the issue
here.


I don't use Gmail (concerned about privacy issues).  IMAP with an 
exchange server just has tons and tons of issues.  Tell me how I can 
specifically help you here.  I would say I can't read 1/200 emails I 
get, especially when they come from Yahoo Groups. They come up blank.
Often Attachments don't come. I think this has to do with the specific 
sending program.  If I send an attachment from Eudora to Seamonkey I 
don't get it (but do in Exchange web interface and Outlook. Some MS 
functions that auto send attachments have the same issues, and a few 
other programs do as well. I'll have to read the headers next time it 
happens. I would say this is 10% of all my attachments.
I also have lots of formatting inconsistencies. Looks fine in Outlook, 
not in Seamonkey.


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Re: Is this normal Seamonkey/ Lightning/CALdav

[NoOp]

On 10/05/2011 12:03 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
> I have just updated my setup to Seamonkey 2.4.1 and Lightning 1.0beta7
> 
> I have added a CALdav calendar (eGroupware) and everything seems to work 
> as expected except when I have my CALdav calendar selected no event 
> notifications are sent.
> 
> If I have the default "Home" Local Calendar selected then notifications 
> are sent.
> 
> Is this normal and can it be fixed?

Not sure as I only use an ical (US Holidays from Apple), but these pages
may be of help:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:QA_CalDAV_Support
http://wiki.davical.org/w/CalDAV_Clients/Mozilla_Calendar

Your best bet will most likely be to ask on the mozilla.support.calendar
group.


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Re: Sync encountered an error...

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

sean nathan bean wrote:


the last three days i've been getting the following error message:
Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will automatically 
retry this action.

anyone else? or just me?


Philip Chee wrote:


On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:57:22 -0400, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

>  Rick Merrill wrote:

>>  I'm getting lots of hangs with sm2.4
>>  and the complaint is "server" messed up!

>
>  Its a (now) known issue with the default Sync Server, Mozilla IT are
>  working around the clock to try and correct it properly.
>
>  Seehttps://services.mozilla.com/status/  for more.

Network Timeout

The operation timed out when attempting to contact services.mozilla.com.

Most of Mozilla is sloow. Bugzilla, the Wiki. The NNTP server seems to
be doing fine (but then it's actually Giganews).

Phil


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Sync encountered an error...

[sean nathan bean]

the last three days i've been getting the following error message:

Sync encountred an error while syncing: Unkown error. Synch will 
automatically retry this action.


previously, i clicked the x and ignored it... now it pops up every 15 
seconds...


anyone else? or just me?

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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

hawker wrote:

This statement almost perfectly reflects my feelings as well.
I have been a hardcore Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey fan but for the first
time I'm seriously considering leaving the sweet all together.
The changes are not in areas I need and often break favorite features. I
have seen more very annoying bugs lately (especially in 2.2x). I have
certainly lost confidence in the product but am sticking with it for now.


I'm hoping I can find a solution to the confidence loss for all our 
users. In my experience we are getting better at stability and overall 
support thanks to all the core changes we are adopting when we can. That 
is not to behave as an excuse for any regressions our own team has 
introduced, nor as an explanation on why the UI changes are good, merely 
a point on stability.



What is wrong with 2.4.1? Well for starters read Philip Chee's letter to
this group from 9/29 at 6:16am

What has changed that I don't like.
I can't stand the new search with Google. I can't get previews in the
left pain.


Well you can switch search provider. (As for the sidebar issue you cite, 
I unfortunately don't know enough.)


> I don't like the inline search popping up a box now.

For this, however there is a pref (assuming you mean 
search-in-existing-page)... you can go to "Edit->Preferences" -> 
"Advanced" -> "Find as you type" and *uncheck* the box for "Show the 
find toolbar during find as you type"



Then Mail is going downhill fast.


I'm sorry to hear that, most of our mail code is shared with 
Thunderbird. But we do still try to stay on top of mail issues. (I 
personally know very little about mail backend/code and am primarily a 
consumer like you with regard to it)



1) E-mail's composed in Word can no longer be cut and pasted into
Seamonkey mail and be readable from outlook.


Can you provide specific example of this (incl. screenshots) and/or a 
bug # for this so I can try and confirm/get a person on it. I have never 
liked using Word to pre-compose anything and always compose directly in 
mail. But that could surely use some investigation.



2) IMAP is in bad shape, can't get many attachments, often get blank
e-mails, doesn't refresh right, looses e-mail etc. It does not play well
with Exchange server at all. It used to play better in 1.x days and 2.0
days.


I don't have an Exchange server to test with, but IMAP has and does work 
well for me with GMail. I do not get many attachements, but I do get 
some, and all the ones I have gotten seem to work fine for me. But as I 
said above a bug number and specifics would help us track down the issue 
here.


~Justin Wood (Callek)


On 10/5/2011 12:46 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


I'm curious, what issues have you [hawker] heard on 2.4.1 that worry
you specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint
at this time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as
well)


Obviously I'm not Hawker, and I therefore can't answer on his/her behalf;
neither can I easily identify any issues with Seamonkey > 2.0.14 that
could logically cause significant worries; but I do believe, quite
sincerely, that once Seamonkey started tracking the rapid-release
schedule of Firefox, and took on board many of the more radical
changes that Firefox had already adopted (e.g., places.sqlite,
open tabs rather than windows, ...), it lost the confidence
of a significant fraction of its user community.

I have continued to upgrade my primary machine as far as 2.3.3;
I have kept my secondary machine at 2.0.14; but I no longer
accept upgrades unconditionally, and I am no longer a Seamonkey
advocate -- I no longer say to those still using Internet
Explorer and Outlook Express "ditch them : there is a /far/
better package that does what both of those do, seamlessly,
and will offer you a /far/ superior environment within which to
browse, send and receive e-mail). And I fear I am not alone in
this. Others, too, on this list have expressed significant
reservations about going beyond 2.0.14; they, too, are probably
no longer vocal Seamonkey advocates. And I think that this is
a great shame : Seamonkey was, and perhaps still is, a wonderful
tool, preferable to IE, preferable to OE, to Firefox, to Thunderbird
(except in the lack of a tool for identifying duplicate IMAP
e-mails), to Opera, to Safari, to Konqueror. But it seems to
some of us to have lost its way -- to have become little more
than an undiscriminating beggar, eagerly snapping at whatever goodies
Firefox and Gecko are currently offering, but no longer capable
of being brave enough to go its own way whenever its own way
would be preferable.

I may be wrong; I hope I am; but this is a genuine expression
of one person's opinion, for better or for worse.

Philip Taylor




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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Jens Hatlak]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 04/10/2011 22:58, Tony Higgins told the world:

I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14.  What can I expect with upgrading
to Version 2.3.3?  I get constant reminders to upgrade.


Well, THE major feature change (which happened in 2.1) is the new
"Places" bookmarks system (the same one that Firefox uses since version
3). This allows, among other things, full syncing of your bookmarks with
other computers (and even phones) through Firefox Sync.


One thing to note additionally is that if you run a profile with SM 2.1 
or later (including versions like 2.3.3 and current 2.4.1) and then go 
back to SM 2.0 for whichever reason, you will lose your browsing history 
and all changes made to bookmarks.


In any case, please read (ideally before upgrading):



Otherwise, MCBastos pretty much summed up what needs to be done. If you 
need to find your profile location in order to back it up, see 
 (with current 
SM versions, you can simply use Help/Troubleshooting Information).


HTH

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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[hawker]

This statement almost perfectly reflects my feelings as well.
I have been a hardcore Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey fan but for the first 
time I'm seriously considering leaving the sweet all together.
The changes are not in areas I need and often break favorite features. 
I have seen more very annoying bugs lately (especially in 2.2x).  I have 
certainly lost confidence in the product but am sticking with it for now.


What is wrong with 2.4.1? Well for starters read Philip Chee's letter to 
this group from 9/29 at 6:16am


What has changed that I don't like.
I can't stand the new search with Google. I can't get previews in the 
left pain.

I don't like the inline search popping up a box now.

Then Mail is going downhill fast.
1) E-mail's composed in Word can no longer be cut and pasted into 
Seamonkey mail and be readable from outlook.
2) IMAP is in bad shape, can't get many attachments, often get blank 
e-mails, doesn't refresh right, looses e-mail etc. It does not play well 
with Exchange server at all. It used to play better in 1.x days and 2.0 
days.






On 10/5/2011 12:46 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


I'm curious, what issues have you [hawker] heard on 2.4.1 that worry
you specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint
at this time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as
well)


Obviously I'm not Hawker, and I therefore can't answer on his/her behalf;
neither can I easily identify any issues with Seamonkey > 2.0.14 that
could logically cause significant worries; but I do believe, quite
sincerely, that once Seamonkey started tracking the rapid-release
schedule of Firefox, and took on board many of the more radical
changes that Firefox had already adopted (e.g., places.sqlite,
open tabs rather than windows, ...), it lost the confidence
of a significant fraction of its user community.

I have continued to upgrade my primary machine as far as 2.3.3;
I have kept my secondary machine at 2.0.14; but I no longer
accept upgrades unconditionally, and I am no longer a Seamonkey
advocate -- I no longer say to those still using Internet
Explorer and Outlook Express "ditch them : there is a /far/
better package that does what both of those do, seamlessly,
and will offer you a /far/ superior environment within which to
browse, send and receive e-mail). And I fear I am not alone in
this. Others, too, on this list have expressed significant
reservations about going beyond 2.0.14; they, too, are probably
no longer vocal Seamonkey advocates. And I think that this is
a great shame : Seamonkey was, and perhaps still is, a wonderful
tool, preferable to IE, preferable to OE, to Firefox, to Thunderbird
(except in the lack of a tool for identifying duplicate IMAP
e-mails), to Opera, to Safari, to Konqueror. But it seems to
some of us to have lost its way -- to have become little more
than an undiscriminating beggar, eagerly snapping at whatever goodies
Firefox and Gecko are currently offering, but no longer capable
of being brave enough to go its own way whenever its own way
would be preferable.

I may be wrong; I hope I am; but this is a genuine expression
of one person's opinion, for better or for worse.

Philip Taylor


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Re: Lost Bookmarks

[Palikari ATL]

On Oct 5, 3:00 pm, MCBastos  wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 15:50, Palikari ATL told the world:
>
> > Had computer repaired.  When got computer home, was not able to access
> > web via SeaMonkey, only MS Explorer.  Since system files had to be
> > replaced in the repair, I assumed that SeaMonkey may have been
> > corrupted.  So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it.  All cookies,
> > passwords, extensions, etc. were preserved, but all my bookmarks
> > disappeared!
>
> > Any suggestions on finding my lost bookmarks?
>
> I'm just guessing here, but... were you, by any chance, using Seamonkey
> version 2.0.x previously, and reinstalled with the most current version?
>
> If so, you may be having a case of failed conversion of the Bookmarks
> database. It happens sometimes when upgrading from 2.0.x to a newer
> release. Fortunately, the remedy for that is usually simple:
>
> Open your Bookmarks manager, go to "Tools," "Import HTML" and import
> your bookmarks.html file.
>
> Note: if you were already using a more recent Seamonkey version, this
> solution might not be the best for you. If so, please supply more details.
>
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Re: Lost Bookmarks

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 15:50, Palikari ATL told the world:
> Had computer repaired.  When got computer home, was not able to access
> web via SeaMonkey, only MS Explorer.  Since system files had to be
> replaced in the repair, I assumed that SeaMonkey may have been
> corrupted.  So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it.  All cookies,
> passwords, extensions, etc. were preserved, but all my bookmarks
> disappeared!
> 
> Any suggestions on finding my lost bookmarks?

I'm just guessing here, but... were you, by any chance, using Seamonkey
version 2.0.x previously, and reinstalled with the most current version?

If so, you may be having a case of failed conversion of the Bookmarks
database. It happens sometimes when upgrading from 2.0.x to a newer
release. Fortunately, the remedy for that is usually simple:

Open your Bookmarks manager, go to "Tools," "Import HTML" and import
your bookmarks.html file.

Note: if you were already using a more recent Seamonkey version, this
solution might not be the best for you. If so, please supply more details.

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Is this normal Seamonkey/ Lightning/CALdav

[Rob Steinmetz]

I have just updated my setup to Seamonkey 2.4.1 and Lightning 1.0beta7

I have added a CALdav calendar (eGroupware) and everything seems to work 
as expected except when I have my CALdav calendar selected no event 
notifications are sent.


If I have the default "Home" Local Calendar selected then notifications 
are sent.


Is this normal and can it be fixed?
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Lost Bookmarks

[Palikari ATL]

Had computer repaired.  When got computer home, was not able to access
web via SeaMonkey, only MS Explorer.  Since system files had to be
replaced in the repair, I assumed that SeaMonkey may have been
corrupted.  So I uninstalled it and reinstalled it.  All cookies,
passwords, extensions, etc. were preserved, but all my bookmarks
disappeared!

Any suggestions on finding my lost bookmarks?

Thank you.
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Re: 2.0.14 to 2.4.1?

[Larry]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 13:37, Larry told the world:

Just to confirm, my wife can go directly from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1? Yes, we
know about the adjustments we might need due to the advent of the
"Places" format. (Asking because I went through the 2.3.x series, but
she would have skipped that step.)


Yes, she can. Standard precautions apply: make a backup of her SM
profile, just in case anything goes wrong.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[NoOp]

On 10/05/2011 10:23 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:
>> NoOp wrote:
...
>>>
>>> Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
>>> posted yesterday:
>>>
>>> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
>>> If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
>>> advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
>> 
>> I get an empty window.
>> 
>> There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
>> Plus extension.
>> 
> 
> I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having
> the image resized.  Then I added
>  to my AdBlock Plus filters.
> Now I only get the initial window resized.
> 

Did that and I still get the
http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php?ad_tag=Imageshack_Landing_pops2
Cleared cach, etc., no cookies, and even tried in a different window.
Adblock Plus is showing the http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php as
being blocked.
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Re: 2.0.14 to 2.4.1?

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 05/10/2011 13:37, Larry told the world:
> Just to confirm, my wife can go directly from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1? Yes, we 
> know about the adjustments we might need due to the advent of the 
> "Places" format. (Asking because I went through the 2.3.x series, but 
> she would have skipped that step.)

Yes, she can. Standard precautions apply: make a backup of her SM
profile, just in case anything goes wrong.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[WLS]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Tom S. wrote:


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]




Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
use the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.




You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001

Barry


Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
posted yesterday:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.


I get an empty window.

There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock
Plus extension.



I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having
the image resized.  Then I added
  to my AdBlock Plus filters.
Now I only get the initial window resized.



That works quite well, since the Addblock Plus pop-up add-on doesn't 
work with SeaMonkey, and shows you probably don't need it for Firefox, 
even though it does block the pop-up.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[David E. Ross]

On 10/5/11 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
>>> Tom S. wrote:
>>>
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:
>> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>>
>>> Open links meant to open a new window in:
>>> (x) The current tab/window
>>> [...]
>>> | 2
>>> | Divert all links according to
>>> browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
>> the config editor
>> (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
>> is in a new small
>> window instead of another tab. I can close it
>> with Alt-F4 on the
>> keyboard instead of using the mouse.
>
> Unless you change the first one
> (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
> restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
> allow more popups setting the second one
> (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
> of 2.
>
> Try such a configuration:
>
> browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
> browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0
>
 OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
 use the back button to get to the source page.
 Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
 blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
 why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.

>>>
>>>
>>> You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
>>> 
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
>>> SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
>>> 
>>> Barry
>>
>> Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
>> posted yesterday:
>>
>> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
>> If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
>> advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
> 
> I get an empty window.
> 
> There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
> Plus extension.
> 

I too was getting an empty window, but with the initial window having
the image resized.  Then I added
 to my AdBlock Plus filters.
Now I only get the initial window resized.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

NoOp wrote:


Imageshack is famous for this.


Well, what do you expect from a site that calls itself "Images-hack" ?!
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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[NoOp]

On 10/05/2011 10:02 AM, WLS wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
...
>>> You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
>>> 
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
>>> SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
>>> 
>>> Barry
>>
>> Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
>> posted yesterday:
>>
>> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
>> If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
>> advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
> 
> I get an empty window.
> 
> There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
> Plus extension.
> 

Yeah, it's often blank:
http://imageshack.us/newuploader_ad.php?ad_tag=Imageshack_Landing_pops2
I guess an advert only shows when someone pays for it :-) Either way,
it's a consistant aggravation.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[WLS]

NoOp wrote:

On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Tom S. wrote:


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
(x) The current tab/window
[...]
| 2
| Divert all links according to
browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
[...]




Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
the config editor
(about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
is in a new small
window instead of another tab. I can close it
with Alt-F4 on the
keyboard instead of using the mouse.


Unless you change the first one
(browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
allow more popups setting the second one
(browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
of 2.

Try such a configuration:

browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0


OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
use the back button to get to the source page.
Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.




You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003
SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001

Barry


Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
posted yesterday:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.


I get an empty window.

There is an Adblock Plus pop-up blocker extension add-on for the Adblock 
Plus extension.


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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:


I'm curious, what issues have you [hawker] heard on 2.4.1 that worry you 
specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint at this time. 
(I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as well)


Obviously I'm not Hawker, and I therefore can't answer on his/her behalf;
neither can I easily identify any issues with Seamonkey > 2.0.14 that
could logically cause significant worries; but I do believe, quite
sincerely, that once Seamonkey started tracking the rapid-release
schedule of Firefox, and took on board many of the more radical
changes that Firefox had already adopted (e.g., places.sqlite,
open tabs rather than windows, ...), it lost the confidence
of a significant fraction of its user community.

I have continued to upgrade my primary machine as far as 2.3.3;
I have kept my secondary machine at 2.0.14; but I no longer
accept upgrades unconditionally, and I am no longer a Seamonkey
advocate -- I no longer say to those still using Internet
Explorer and Outlook Express "ditch them : there is a /far/
better package that does what both of those do, seamlessly,
and will offer you a /far/ superior environment within which to
browse, send and receive e-mail).  And I fear I am not alone in
this.  Others, too, on this list have expressed significant
reservations about going beyond 2.0.14; they, too, are probably
no longer vocal Seamonkey advocates.  And I think that this is
a great shame : Seamonkey was, and perhaps still is, a wonderful
tool, preferable to IE, preferable to OE, to Firefox, to Thunderbird
(except in the lack of a tool for identifying duplicate IMAP
e-mails), to Opera, to Safari, to Konqueror.  But it seems to
some of us to have lost its way -- to have become little more
than an undiscriminating beggar, eagerly snapping at whatever goodies
Firefox and Gecko are currently offering, but no longer capable
of being brave enough to go its own way whenever its own way
would be preferable.

I may be wrong; I hope I am; but this is a genuine expression
of one person's opinion, for better or for worse.

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2.0.14 to 2.4.1?

[Larry]

Just to confirm, my wife can go directly from 2.0.14 to 2.4.1? Yes, we 
know about the adjustments we might need due to the advent of the 
"Places" format. (Asking because I went through the 2.3.x series, but 
she would have skipped that step.)


Thanks for all advice!

Larry
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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Walter]

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 04/10/2011 22:58, Tony Higgins told the world:

I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14.  What can I expect with upgrading
to Version 2.3.3?  I get constant reminders to upgrade.


Well, THE major feature change (which happened in 2.1) is the new
"Places" bookmarks system (the same one that Firefox uses since version
3). This allows, among other things, full syncing of your bookmarks with
other computers (and even phones) through Firefox Sync.

There were also a few changes to the user interface -- new Add-Ons
Manager and new Data Manager, for instance -- but those shouldn't
directly impact your browsing.

You get new Gecko versions, the same ones current Firefox versions are
using, so page rendering is the same (and as fast as) new Firefox. For
instance, Seamonkey (and Firefox) now pass the ACID 3 rendering test,
Javascript is getting faster every version, and SM 2.4/FF 7 had some
work done to use less memory.

Oh, and also there's a built-in feature to send websites an user-agent
string advertising Firefox compatibility. This means that most sites now
treat Seamonkey as Firefox, instead of "generic unknown brand X
browser". Although I found that sometimes it's better to turn off that
feature.


When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to
another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get
to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old
location.  It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks.

Will this happen again?  Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step
instructions?


No, if you are already using SM 2.0.x, the upgrade can be done by simply
installing the new version on top of the old (that is, by letting the
installer use the defaults). There are only minor changes to the
profile, not needing a full conversion like what happened in the 1.1 ->
2.0 migration. So, no special procedures needed, at least in theory.

Still, as has been pointed out, sometimes shit DOES happen, so it's a
good idea to back up your profile beforehand. Also, if by some reason
you decide to go back to the old version, it's best to have a
non-upgraded profile to go back too.

Known issues with the upgrade:

- If you go directly from 2.0.x to 2.2 or higher, your downloads history
is not migrated. Most users don't care about it, though (I don't, in
fact I clear my downloads history regularly). If you are one of the few
that DO care, you should download Seamonkey 2.1 and upgrade to it before
doing the final upgrade to the current version. Otherwise, just go ahead
with the latest version (manual or auto-update).

- SOMETIMES the bookmarks are not converted correctly. But in most
cases, the problems can be fixed manually with no special tools. The two
most reported problems I have seen are:

1- Bookmarks are not converted at all (when you open the Bookmarks
manager, you find it empty). Solution: from Bookmarks Manager, open
Tools, Import HTML and import your bookmarks.html file.

2- Bookmarks are imported (you see plenty of your old bookmarks inside
the Bookmarks Manager) but your Bookmarks toolbar is empty. Solution:
look around in the Manager -- you will probably find a folder with all
your old Toolbar bookmarks (I forget what it's called). Just move the
bookmarks to the "Bookmarks Toolbar" folder.

- Another frequent source of complaints regards add-ons (extensions)
that no longer work. In most cases, the cause of this is that the add-on
author did not update the compatibility version list of the add-on --
that is, the add-on CLAIMS it is not compatible with the new version,
although in fact it works fine. The easy workaround for this problem is
to install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on, which disables
add-on compatibility checking. Be aware that the Compatibility Reporter
is not a panacea, though: some add-ons WON'T work correctly with the new
versions. So exercise caution in the beginning.

The most current version is 2.4.1. You will see some people telling you
to stay clear of it, recommending some previous version. Let me dispel
some of the fears. Yes, some people DID run into problems. I'm not
dismissing their problems. But the plain truth is that the new versions
-- EVERY new version -- have worked fine for the vast majority of users.
I had only a couple minor hiccups myself (that "Bookmarks toolbar" thing
I mentioned above, and the need for the Add-on Compatibility Reporter in
order to use some of my extensions).



Thank you McBastos. You seem to be the only reply to offer concrete 
suggestions for Tony and me. With a background of being around computers 
since the RAMAC 305 in 1960, I consider myself somewhat acquainted with 
operating systems and changes in such. However, if there are people who 
have been through installations of changes, I will accept their help by 
the numbers and gladly be held by the hand when I make updates.


But, on to the suggestions you made. They will be very useful when a

Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

hawker wrote:

This said I am now holding on 2.3.3 and have not gone to 2.4.1 as I am
hearing issues about 2.4.1 that worry me. I would wait till 2.4.2 or
2.5.1 if I were you since you are so out dated as of now anyway. Right
now I'm skipping the 2.x.0 releases since the last few have not gone well.


I'm curious, what issues have you heard on 2.4.1 that worry you 
specifically. I know of only one real issue that we can pinpoint at this 
time. (I am working on an extension fix for it at this time as well)


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

[NoOp]

On 10/04/2011 07:51 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
> Tom S. wrote:
> 
>> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>>> Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:31:46 -0400, /Tom S./:
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

> Open links meant to open a new window in:
> (x) The current tab/window
> [...]
> | 2
> | Divert all links according to
> browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
> [...]
> 
>

 Thanks. I changed this setting from 0 to 2 in
 the config editor
 (about:config). So, now when a pop-up opens, it
 is in a new small
 window instead of another tab. I can close it
 with Alt-F4 on the
 keyboard instead of using the mouse.
>>>
>>> Unless you change the first one
>>> (browser.link.open_newwindow) to something more
>>> restrictive (as suggested above) you effectively
>>> allow more popups setting the second one
>>> (browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction) to value
>>> of 2.
>>>
>>> Try such a configuration:
>>>
>>> browser.link.open_newwindow = 1
>>> browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction = 0
>>>
>> OK, I tried that. Now the pop-up opens in the same tab, so I have to
>> use the back button to get to the source page.
>> Thanks anyway.  :-\  I'll try again with add-ons disabled or with a
>> blank profile, but doubt there will be much difference. It's strange
>> why no one else seems to have even any sign of a pop-up on these sites.
>>
> 
> 
> You're not alone and sorry for the confirmation delay..
> 
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20111003 
> SeaMonkey/2.7a1 ID:20111003003001
> 
>  
> Barry

Imageshack is famous for this. For example, here is a screenshot that I
posted yesterday:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/screenshotlibertine343o.png/
If you click on the image to zoom you'll get either a popup
advertisement tab or window depending upon how your preferences are set.
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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Paul B. Gallagher]

JD wrote:


Are you offering to help Tony and Walter?


I think you're new here, but if you'd been around for a while you'd know 
that I'm happy to offer solutions when I have them, and I mostly keep 
quiet when I don't. This isn't my job or profession, I'm just a power 
user, so there are limits to my expertise.


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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 04/10/2011 22:58, Tony Higgins told the world:
> I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14.  What can I expect with upgrading 
> to Version 2.3.3?  I get constant reminders to upgrade.

Well, THE major feature change (which happened in 2.1) is the new
"Places" bookmarks system (the same one that Firefox uses since version
3). This allows, among other things, full syncing of your bookmarks with
other computers (and even phones) through Firefox Sync.

There were also a few changes to the user interface -- new Add-Ons
Manager and new Data Manager, for instance -- but those shouldn't
directly impact your browsing.

You get new Gecko versions, the same ones current Firefox versions are
using, so page rendering is the same (and as fast as) new Firefox. For
instance, Seamonkey (and Firefox) now pass the ACID 3 rendering test,
Javascript is getting faster every version, and SM 2.4/FF 7 had some
work done to use less memory.

Oh, and also there's a built-in feature to send websites an user-agent
string advertising Firefox compatibility. This means that most sites now
treat Seamonkey as Firefox, instead of "generic unknown brand X
browser". Although I found that sometimes it's better to turn off that
feature.

> When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to 
> another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get 
> to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old 
> location.  It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks.
> 
> Will this happen again?  Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step 
> instructions?

No, if you are already using SM 2.0.x, the upgrade can be done by simply
installing the new version on top of the old (that is, by letting the
installer use the defaults). There are only minor changes to the
profile, not needing a full conversion like what happened in the 1.1 ->
2.0 migration. So, no special procedures needed, at least in theory.

Still, as has been pointed out, sometimes shit DOES happen, so it's a
good idea to back up your profile beforehand. Also, if by some reason
you decide to go back to the old version, it's best to have a
non-upgraded profile to go back too.

Known issues with the upgrade:

- If you go directly from 2.0.x to 2.2 or higher, your downloads history
is not migrated. Most users don't care about it, though (I don't, in
fact I clear my downloads history regularly). If you are one of the few
that DO care, you should download Seamonkey 2.1 and upgrade to it before
doing the final upgrade to the current version. Otherwise, just go ahead
with the latest version (manual or auto-update).

- SOMETIMES the bookmarks are not converted correctly. But in most
cases, the problems can be fixed manually with no special tools. The two
most reported problems I have seen are:

1- Bookmarks are not converted at all (when you open the Bookmarks
manager, you find it empty). Solution: from Bookmarks Manager, open
Tools, Import HTML and import your bookmarks.html file.

2- Bookmarks are imported (you see plenty of your old bookmarks inside
the Bookmarks Manager) but your Bookmarks toolbar is empty. Solution:
look around in the Manager -- you will probably find a folder with all
your old Toolbar bookmarks (I forget what it's called). Just move the
bookmarks to the "Bookmarks Toolbar" folder.

- Another frequent source of complaints regards add-ons (extensions)
that no longer work. In most cases, the cause of this is that the add-on
author did not update the compatibility version list of the add-on --
that is, the add-on CLAIMS it is not compatible with the new version,
although in fact it works fine. The easy workaround for this problem is
to install the Add-On Compatibility Reporter add-on, which disables
add-on compatibility checking. Be aware that the Compatibility Reporter
is not a panacea, though: some add-ons WON'T work correctly with the new
versions. So exercise caution in the beginning.

The most current version is 2.4.1. You will see some people telling you
to stay clear of it, recommending some previous version. Let me dispel
some of the fears. Yes, some people DID run into problems. I'm not
dismissing their problems. But the plain truth is that the new versions
-- EVERY new version -- have worked fine for the vast majority of users.
I had only a couple minor hiccups myself (that "Bookmarks toolbar" thing
I mentioned above, and the need for the Add-on Compatibility Reporter in
order to use some of my extensions).

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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[WLS]

hawker wrote:



I am hearing issues about 2.4.1 that worry me. I would wait till 2.4.2 or
2.5.1 if I were you since you are so out dated as of now anyway. Right
now I'm skipping the 2.x.0 releases since the last few have not gone well.



What issues might those be?

Are you sure there is going to be a 2.4.2? What makes you think there 
will be a 2.5.1 after 2.5 is released?


The last few have gone very well for me.

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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[hawker]

You shouldn't experience any big issues upgrading.
That said, some people have had weird issues, but most have been able to 
upgrade fine.  My advice would be to back up your profile with MozBackup 
first in case you do have any problems. Then you can migrate that back 
up into the new version. This should not be necessary, but if something 
goes wrong you have an easy,no hacking, fix.


That said you will see some nice new features in 2.4, better web 
compatibility and bug fixes, but you will also loose some old friends. 
Somewhere around 2.2 or so Seamonkey started to shift radically. 
Personally I think it started loosing some of the features I really 
liked and got buggy from 2.2 on, but also many annoying bugs were fixed. 
Unfortunately since Seamonkey is a small project that has to follow the 
FireFox/Thunderbird cores there was no way around this and to keep 
current in other ways we have to settle on this. Not good but it is the 
way it is.


This said I am now holding on 2.3.3 and have not gone to 2.4.1 as I am 
hearing issues about 2.4.1 that worry me. I would wait till 2.4.2 or 
2.5.1 if I were you since you are so out dated as of now anyway. Right 
now I'm skipping the 2.x.0 releases since the last few have not gone well.


Rick


On 10/4/2011 9:58 PM, Tony Higgins wrote:

I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14. What can I expect with upgrading
to Version 2.3.3? I get constant reminders to upgrade.

When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to
another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get
to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old
location. It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks.

Will this happen again? Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step
instructions?

Thanks,

Tony Higgins



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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[JD]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

JD wrote:


You replied to my reply to another person. You replied to my reply
to Walter.

If you don't know what upgrade to upgrade gave you problems, then
it's hard to say what your next upgrade to upgrade will do.

SeaMonkey is not Netscape.

Click on Help, About SM. What is your current version? If your
current version is 2.0.14, then the upgrade so 2.4.1 should be OK.

If you have any problems with that upgrade, then post back to this
newsgroup and somebody will try to help.


Note: For the vast majority of users who have only one computer, this
last bit of advice is not very helpful. It's like saying "if your
telephone isn't working, give us a call." Of course, most people have
friends with working phones, but still, I hope you can see the irony.

In the best of all possible worlds, we'd have a 24-hour toll-free help
line. In the real world, troubleshooting is somewhat more difficult, and
it's reasonable for someone who's just been burned to be cautious. This
is why I begin by synching my desktop installation with my laptop, and
upgrade the laptop only. If that proves troublesome, I still have a
working desktop to complain from. If I'm satisfied that it works fine,
only then do I take a chance and upgrade the desktop, knowing that I
have a working laptop as a fallback.

I have no other software whose upgrades I distrust so much; in 25 years
of running PCs I've never had any other application lose major
categories of data or become completely inoperable due to an upgrade. If
it were some minor applet like Flash I'd blow it off, but SeaMonkey is
absolutely central and essential to what I do in both business and
personal life. Without it, I'd be out of business in a heartbeat.



Are you offering to help Tony and Walter?

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Re: What can I expect with upgrade to Version 2.3.3

[Gerald Ross]

Tony Higgins wrote:

I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.0.14.  What can I expect with upgrading
to Version 2.3.3?  I get constant reminders to upgrade.

When I upgraded to the current version my profiles were copied to
another location which I had difficulty locating and then couldn't get
to work and had to re-establish all of my 5 email accounts using the old
location.  It seems to me I also had trouble with my bookmarks.

Will this happen again?  Is there an upgrade guide with step-by-step
instructions?

Thanks,

Tony Higgins
I'm with you, Tony.  I plan to stick to 2.014 and Win XP for a long 
time. I upgraded to 2.1 and did not like it at all. I always copy my 
current SeaMonkey files, including the ones in Documents & Settings to 
a directory on another drive before messing with it.  So I just 
uninstalled 2.l, re-installed 2.014 then without starting it up I 
copied all the files I had saved over on top of the re-installed ones 
and it was like nothing ever happened.


I'm too old to learn another program when the one I have works fine 
for me.


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What's a nice girl like you doing in a
dirty mind like mine?






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Re: AllState Web Site

[Daniel]

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:






I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing "compatibility" of
Firefox 2.0

sean




To "quit advertizing "compatibility" of Firefox 2.0" simply untick the 
spot on the HTTP Networking page.


QED!

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Re: Where's my Homepages??

[Daniel]

W3BNR wrote:

On 10/4/2011 7:15 AM Daniel submitted the following:

Just upgraded to SM 2.4.1 (i.e. tonight's the first run) on Mandriva
Linux 2009.0

When I started up the browser by clicking the icon/whatever down in
the bottom
left of screen, instead of getting my five site Home Group, I'm just
getting one
page, which isn't in the Home Group (but may have been the last page I
had open
when I was in Win7 last night).

Anybody else having this problem??

(and now I'm off to re-build my Home Group)



Go to Edit/Preferences/Browser and click on 'home page' instead of 'last
page visited' and then choose the file for your 'home page'.



Well spotted, the two of you. Resetting to "Home Page" seems to have 
fixed the situation.


Don't know how it got changed in the first place!!

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