Seamonkey hangups
I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Peter ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
Peter wrote: I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Seconded. I see this most often in the mail composition window -- I'm happily typing along and then the thing suddenly becomes completely unresponsive for anywhere from 20 seconds to a minute. It really messes with my train of thought, not to mention what's left of my hair. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
Peter wrote: I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Peter Thirded? Several 'types' of hangups in my experience. Sometimes the browser simply stops responding for an indefinite time within a website. Killing SM and restarting makes things move again. Another is when you are already in certain sites and you click on a different link within Bookmarks Manager and...zip. But if you RIGHT click on the new link and then click on Open in a New Tab, it works. Some sites seem to 'seed' this behavior, among them http://slashdot.org/ and http://lifehacker.com/. You can left-click your way back and forth BETWEEN them, through Bookmarks Manager, but all of a sudden can't go anywhere else without right-click/New Tab. An add-on named CheckPlaces seems to've tamed a third kind lockup where the symptom is 100% cpu. It maintains the bookmarks database at times of your own choosing. I also now nuke the History once a week (not really sure how important a role that plays). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I wanted to verify something
Following my investigation, billions of people on our planet receive the a href=http://goodfinance-blog.com/topics/mortgage-loans;mortgage loans/a from different banks. Thus, there's great possibilities to receive a bank loan in any country. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
cmcadams wrote: Peter wrote: I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Peter Also here, when the Seamonkey IMAP client sees (or is told) that a new message has arrived and starts downloading it. Typing can completely freeze for several seconds, if not longer. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Digital support for SM
I propose not to hold back until you get enough amount of cash to order goods! You can get the a href=http://goodfinance-blog.com/topics/business-loans;business loans/a or just car loan and feel fine ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I wanted to verify something
On 10/20/11 4:00 AM, MitchellCLAIRE28 wrote: Following my investigation, billions of people on our planet receive the a href=http://goodfinance-blog.com/topics/mortgage-loans;mortgage loans/a from different banks. Thus, there's great possibilities to receive a bank loan in any country. Spam from Russia. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I wanted to verify something
No, /re-circulated/ spam from Russia. One copy was unavoidable, two were not. David E. Ross wrote: Spam from Russia. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Embedding an Audio File in E-mail
Following my own investigation, millions of persons in the world get the a href=http://goodfinance-blog.com/topics/home-loans;home loans/a from good creditors. Thus, there's a good possibility to get a collateral loan in every country. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Rickles wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1. Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd never seen it before, until today. Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but today the house was empty all day I was the first home. Turned PC on and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour. Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway. Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder, empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any content--thread message panes were both blank. Assumed some background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic. No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that. Suggestions? You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break. As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath. I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of them, seem to be associated with downloads. (Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now it is once every day or two.) (This is on Windows 7 64 bit.) Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
Any suggestions on this? I need to post in some of these forums and have no idea what to do since I can't contact the site admin. It would be helpful to know if this is a problem on the webpage or a problem with my browser/local settings. I have posted in these forums before with no issue, so I need to figure out what has changed. LMH LMH wrote: Lately I have had a number of problems with websites and I have no way of telling if the issue is with the site or browser. With this forum, http://www.unix.com/programming/ I am able to log into my account, but when I go to a page to create a post, none of the php tools work (text color, bold, etc). When I move the mouse over the different buttons, I get tool tips saying what the button does, but it acts like it is not there when I try to click on it. Also, if I type in a message and click on preview or submit, the new screen that comes up says the message I entered is too short and all of the text I entered is gone. Is there some keyboard shortcut I could have hit by accident to togel between plain text and php mode, or something like that. I have cleared my cache, cookies, and such, run CCleaner, restated and all that. I have a similar problem with this site, http://www.daniweb.com/software-development/shell-scripting/113 When I make a post there, all of the php tools also don't work, but I can preview and submit the post. I can't think of anything that would cause an issue like this that would not be resolved by clearing cache and cookies. I am running a firewall (ZoneAlarm ISS), but nothing changes if I turn it off. Any suggestions as to what to do. Because the problem is with creating a post, I am not able to contact the site admin to see what they know about this. LMH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
LMH wrote: Any suggestions on this? I need to post in some of these forums and have no idea what to do since I can't contact the site admin. It would be helpful to know if this is a problem on the webpage or a problem with my browser/local settings. I have posted in these forums before with no issue, so I need to figure out what has changed. LMH I wasn't aware the PHP had text color, bold, etc functions(?). I always thought that was HTML. But then again, it has been awhile since I played around with PHP. Maybe someone who is a member of those sites will come along and help you. -- SeaMonkey - openSUSE 11.3 Linux - 1.8GHz CPU - 2GB RAM Firefox Support http://support.mozilla.com and http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_%28Firefox%29 SeaMonkey Support http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community Stand Alone Profile Manager https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
WLS wrote: I wasn't aware the PHP had text color, bold, etc functions(?). I always thought that was HTML. But then again, it has been awhile since I played around with PHP. It doesn't. PHP can, of course, be made to output HTML, but that is a server-side process. Aside: the aforementioned link to unix.com/programming tries to redirect me: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php ... Not very friendly. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: cmcadams wrote: Peter wrote: I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Peter Also here, when the Seamonkey IMAP client sees (or is told) that a new message has arrived and starts downloading it. Typing can completely freeze for several seconds, if not longer. Philip Taylor See also my thread, news://news.mozilla.org:119/-vkdnwtcnl3_vqltnz2dnuvz_oydn...@mozilla.org, which calls out a complete freeze of Mail, without Composition or actively downloading messages. And the CPU shows no usage. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
See also my thread, news://news.mozilla.org:119/-vkdnwtcnl3_vqltnz2dnuvz_oydn...@mozilla.org, which calls out a complete freeze of Mail, without Composition or actively downloading messages. And the CPU shows no usage. I am happy to say that SM works faultlessly here - 1 XP machine and 2 32 bit 7 machines. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
Rickles wrote: See also my thread, news://news.mozilla.org:119/-vkdnwtcnl3_vqltnz2dnuvz_oydn...@mozilla.org, which calls out a complete freeze of Mail, without Composition or actively downloading messages. And the CPU shows no usage. My Seamonkey (2.3.3) believes such links should be opened with Filzip :-( Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
On 10/20/2011 11:16 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: WLS wrote: I wasn't aware the PHP had text color, bold, etc functions(?). I always thought that was HTML. But then again, it has been awhile since I played around with PHP. It doesn't. PHP can, of course, be made to output HTML, but that is a server-side process. Aside: the aforementioned link to unix.com/programming tries to redirect me: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php ... Not very friendly. They require cookies. If you have cookies off you'll get the redirect loop. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?
Bob Fleischer wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Rickles wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1. Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd never seen it before, until today. Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but today the house was empty all day I was the first home. Turned PC on and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour. Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway. Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder, empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any content--thread message panes were both blank. Assumed some background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic. No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that. Suggestions? You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break. As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath. I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of them, seem to be associated with downloads. (Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now it is once every day or two.) (This is on Windows 7 64 bit.) Bob I think I've sorted this one. My only known issue is with deleting messages. Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM. Prior to this, anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing nice. The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass. Soon as I clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything worked normally. First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder destination. So I did it the hard way. For now, SM seems to be happy. We'll see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
Rickles wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: cmcadams wrote: Peter wrote: I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Peter Also here, when the Seamonkey IMAP client sees (or is told) that a new message has arrived and starts downloading it. Typing can completely freeze for several seconds, if not longer. Philip Taylor See also my thread, news://news.mozilla.org:119/-vkdnwtcnl3_vqltnz2dnuvz_oydn...@mozilla.org, which calls out a complete freeze of Mail, without Composition or actively downloading messages. And the CPU shows no usage. I think I've sorted this one. My only known issue is with deleting messages. Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM. Prior to this, anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing nice. The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass. Soon as I clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything worked normally. First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder destination. So I did it the hard way. For now, SM seems to be happy. We'll see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
NoOp wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Aside: the aforementioned link to unix.com/programming tries to redirect me: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php ... Not very friendly. They require cookies. If you have cookies off you'll get the redirect loop. You're probably right. I think I didn't accept them. Oh well. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas
On 2011-10-19, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572652 I have read this now and see a lot discussion about what has to changed to get rid of the Accept-Charset header, but not much about why they did this. Only the person who requested the change had some reasons, mainly: It is no longer needed, because every browser understands utf-8 nowadays. And a funny compatibilty argument: Internet Explorer does not send this header so there is no need for Mozilla to send it. OTOH, nothing about losing compatibility with their own older releases. I don't know if all web sites/applications follow the same logic and automatically use utf-8 when they get no other information, at least the one that I mentioned (Horde/IMP webmail) does not do this and needs an individual little hack for Mozilla browsers now. :-( Regards, Jochen Roderburg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is icon Show Remote Content?
Arnie Goetchius schrieb: Turned off AVG but no help. Upon further investigation, the emails in question don't even display in HTML, just straight text with many URL's. In 2.0.14, the emails display in HTML and the Allow Remote Content icon does show up. In 2.5, all I see is text, no HTML so I figure I have to get that fixed first. Any ideas? Please check the setting in: View - Message Body - HTML / Text When viewed as text only, you neither get HTML, nor does it make sense to load any pictures, which is why loading remote content is not an option here. BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas
On 10/19/2011 02:00 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Interesting results from different browsers (linux): http://www.delorie.com:81/some/url.txt SeaMonkey: GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1 Host: www.delorie.com:81 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111012 Firefox/8.0 SeaMonkey/2.5 Lightning/1.0b8pre Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate DNT: 1 Connection: keep-alive Chromium: GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1 Host: www.delorie.com:81 Connection: keep-alive User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/10.10 Chromium/14.0.835.202 Chrome/14.0.835.202 Safari/535.1 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.3 Google Chrome: GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1 Host: www.delorie.com:81 Connection: keep-alive User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/14.0.835.202 Safari/535.1 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8 Accept-Charset: UTF-8,*;q=0.5 Opera: GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.9.168 Version/11.52 Host: www.delorie.com:81 Accept: text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/webp, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1 Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.9 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Connection: Keep-Alive Firefox: GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1 Host: www.delorie.com:81 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Connection: keep-alive IE8: GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1 Accept: image/gif, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/x-silverlight, application/x-ms-application, application/x-ms-xbap, application/vnd.ms-xpsdocument, application/xaml+xml, */* Accept-Language: en-us User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Host: www.delorie.com:81 Connection: Keep-Alive [Sorry for going OT] I wondered why the: User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 part in that string. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537503%28v=vs.85%29.aspx Application name and version. For historical reasons, Internet Explorer identifies itself as a Mozilla browser. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla#Part_of_the_.22user_agent_string.22_of_many_browsers quote Because the Netscape browser initially implemented many features not available in other browsers and quickly came to dominate the market, a number of web sites were designed to work, or work fully, only when they detected an appropriate version of Mozilla in the user agent string. Thus, competing browsers began to emulate (cloak or spoof) this string in order to also work with those sites. The earliest example of this is Internet Explorer's use of a user agent string beginning Mozilla/version (compatible; MSIE version..., in order to receive content intended for Netscape, its main rival at the time of its development. This format of user agent string has since been copied by other user agents, and persisted even after Internet Explorer came to dominate the browser market. /quote Amazing... yet we have to spoof as 'Firefox' these days: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111012 Firefox/8.0 SeaMonkey/2.5 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where is icon Show Remote Content?
Philipp van Hüllen wrote: Arnie Goetchius schrieb: Turned off AVG but no help. Upon further investigation, the emails in question don't even display in HTML, just straight text with many URL's. In 2.0.14, the emails display in HTML and the Allow Remote Content icon does show up. In 2.5, all I see is text, no HTML so I figure I have to get that fixed first. Any ideas? Please check the setting in: View - Message Body - HTML / Text When viewed as text only, you neither get HTML, nor does it make sense to load any pictures, which is why loading remote content is not an option here. BR/Philipp Thank you so much. That was it. Sorry I took up so much bandwidth with this question. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
I accept session cookies from this site, which is a very reputable programming forum, possibly the top rated. Of course, I am going to log in, so a session cookie is anticipated. They have a short advertisement page that you are sent when you first go to the site. A banner ad from a supporter is displayed. After a few seconds you are re-directed to the main page. I find this annoying, but I guess someone needs to pay for the site. All in all I prefer that to third party tracking cookies. You can still access the site if you reject cookies. Everyone gets the banner advertisement page whether or not you allow cookies. You don't go to the banner if you are logged in. If you do allow session cookies, you can skip the ad banner by clicking on the redirect link instead of waiting for the clock to run down. I consider the underlying engine of these vBuiltin forums to be php driven, particularly the actions of the buttons like submit and preview, but I could be wrong about that I guess. LMH Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: NoOp wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Aside: the aforementioned link to unix.com/programming tries to redirect me: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php ... Not very friendly. They require cookies. If you have cookies off you'll get the redirect loop. You're probably right. I think I didn't accept them. Oh well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?
Rickles wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Rickles wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1. Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd never seen it before, until today. Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but today the house was empty all day I was the first home. Turned PC on and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour. Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway. Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder, empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any content--thread message panes were both blank. Assumed some background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic. No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that. Suggestions? You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break. As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath. I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of them, seem to be associated with downloads. (Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now it is once every day or two.) (This is on Windows 7 64 bit.) Bob I think I've sorted this one. My only known issue is with deleting messages. Killing all SM processes, I've gone into my profile directory and deleted the Mail\Trash.msf file, then restarted SM. Prior to this, anytime anything was selected for deletion, that's when SM stops playing nice. The clue this time was that I could click on any folder/subfolder in my folder pane with instant results, but clicking on 'Deleted' gave me a blank message thread pane and a cursor with an hourglass. Soon as I clicked on something else the hourglass disappeared and everything worked normally. First tried to go through SM email account prefs to change the pointer for Deleted, but there's no GUI option to change that one folder destination. So I did it the hard way. For now, SM seems to be happy. We'll see. Rickles, have you tried File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders to reduce the size of your mail folders?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
On 10/20/2011 06:38 PM, LMH wrote: I accept session cookies from this site, which is a very reputable programming forum, possibly the top rated. Of course, I am going to log in, so a session cookie is anticipated. They have a short advertisement page that you are sent when you first go to the site. A banner ad from a supporter is displayed. After a few seconds you are re-directed to the main page. I find this annoying, but I guess someone needs to pay for the site. All in all I prefer that to third party tracking cookies. You can still access the site if you reject cookies. Everyone gets the banner advertisement page whether or not you allow cookies. You don't go to the banner if you are logged in. If you do allow session cookies, you can skip the ad banner by clicking on the redirect link instead of waiting for the clock to run down. Sorry, but that's not correct. Earlier today all I got was: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php?url=http://www.unix.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 I may eventually get to: http://www.unix.com/programming/ without cookies, but if I click on: http://www.unix.com/programming/164429-access-e-mail-inbox-using-php.html I get: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php?url=http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?t=164429 and it just keeps on looping for about 10 iterations and then finally ends up on the forum post. (Earlier today it wouldn't even do that - maybe they finally changed their advertisement link). Either way I'd have to agree with Beauregard... it's an issue. But hey, I realise some sites require cookies turn them on for those particular sites. I'm just telling you that the problem with the loop (at least earlier today) is cookie related. Once I turned on cookies the site/forum worked ok for viewing. Please bottom post on this group. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: problems with some php web sites
The test I did was to clear my permission to accept session cookies and go to default. That means that SM asks me about every cookie. When I went to the site, I checked block and use for all cookies. After that, all I had to do is wait for the countdown to finish and I went to the forum. I guess you are saying that if I was to try to look at an individual post, I would go back to the loop? I just tried again and got stuck in the same loop you describe. I will send a message to the forum about that, if I can ever get it working again. The add banner thing is pretty new. I don't really like it, but I think it is one of the more responsible ways to pay for a site. Anyway, does anyone have any idea why I can't make a post on this forum even though I can log in? I have had a few issues before with the tools on a post screen not working (font, bold, etc), but I have always been able to correct it by clearing temp files and restarting the browser. I sort of assumed that there was some plain text version of the posting tool that I was into by an accidentally shortcut key, or something like that. This sort of thing is happening on a number of web sites, so I thought I should check and see if it is browser related. I really need to be able to post in some of these forums, so this is not a minor inconvenience by any stretch. LMH NoOp wrote: On 10/20/2011 06:38 PM, LMH wrote: I accept session cookies from this site, which is a very reputable programming forum, possibly the top rated. Of course, I am going to log in, so a session cookie is anticipated. They have a short advertisement page that you are sent when you first go to the site. A banner ad from a supporter is displayed. After a few seconds you are re-directed to the main page. I find this annoying, but I guess someone needs to pay for the site. All in all I prefer that to third party tracking cookies. You can still access the site if you reject cookies. Everyone gets the banner advertisement page whether or not you allow cookies. You don't go to the banner if you are logged in. If you do allow session cookies, you can skip the ad banner by clicking on the redirect link instead of waiting for the clock to run down. Sorry, but that's not correct. Earlier today all I got was: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php?url=http://www.unix.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 I may eventually get to: http://www.unix.com/programming/ without cookies, but if I click on: http://www.unix.com/programming/164429-access-e-mail-inbox-using-php.html I get: http://www.unix.com/advertisement.php?url=http://www.unix.com/showthread.php?t=164429 and it just keeps on looping for about 10 iterations and then finally ends up on the forum post. (Earlier today it wouldn't even do that - maybe they finally changed their advertisement link). Either way I'd have to agree with Beauregard... it's an issue. But hey, I realise some sites require cookies turn them on for those particular sites. I'm just telling you that the problem with the loop (at least earlier today) is cookie related. Once I turned on cookies the site/forum worked ok for viewing. Please bottom post on this group. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey hangups
Peter sent me the following:: I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no apparent reason. I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get anything done. I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too important to give up CPU cycles to the user. I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything that we can do to help find a solution? Perhaps some way of us determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs? Peter no hang up or freezes on my 6 year old laptop running the latest Seamonkey in linux... sean -- ..duct tape is like the Force: It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
