Re: Another Down Load Problem (2.7.1)
Larry S. wrote: That's three in a row. First it was 2.6.1, then 2.7, and now 2.7.1. In each case, I attempted to download through check for updates, and in each case SM installed and ended with the Release Notes/Changes page. However, when I leave the page and attempt to start SM, I get XULRunner Couldn't read application.ini. Yes, every time. So, off to (yikes!) IE to try another download. Finally worked each time, although I wind up with a very slow SM which eventually gets better. So, what's happening here? How do I avoid it? Is it better to d/l through IE than SM? (Yes, I'm now in the habit of making a fresh copy of my profile before d/l the new version, and I also keep a copy of the setup file for the current and previous versions, in case I can't get the new one for some reason. Thank heavens!) Can you please open a bug on it, CC me and attach to it your last-update.log So I can try and track this down. On Win7 you can find that log in: C:\\Users\USER\APPDATA\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\updates\ You might have to show hidden files and folders or some such to see the folder. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
Hello, I've been using TB and FF for a long time. Recently I found myself using Chrome more and more. //yeah, shame on me But I don't want to get rid of FF completely. So know I'm thinking about installing Seamonkey to replace TB and FF with one tool. What functionality would I loose? What would I win? Can I import all settings and data from TB? Can Seamonkey browser sync with FF online data? Thanks -- MJO ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
oppiman wrote: I've been using TB and FF for a long time. Recently I found myself using Chrome more and more. //yeah, shame on me But I don't want to get rid of FF completely. So know I'm thinking about installing Seamonkey to replace TB and FF with one tool. Whatever you do, don't uninstall Firefox. It is *always* good to have multiple browsers, for several reasons. What functionality would I loose? Possibly the odd add-on/extension or toolbar where the developer hasn't considered SeaMonkey. What would I win? Not much. Not even fewer clicks. Can I import all settings and data from TB? Can Seamonkey browser sync with FF online data? What is FF online data in your definition? Personally, I use Thunderbird and Firefox, and I'm stickin' with 'em. The wife is the SeaMonkey user on this computer -- so we each have our own set. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
On 02/12/2012 07:56 AM, oppiman wrote: Hello, I've been using TB and FF for a long time. Recently I found myself using Chrome more and more. //yeah, shame on me But I don't want to get rid of FF completely. So know I'm thinking about installing Seamonkey to replace TB and FF with one tool. What functionality would I loose? What would I win? Can I import all settings and data from TB? Can Seamonkey browser sync with FF online data? Thanks As previously noted by BTS, you would lose some extension, and theme compatibility With SeaMonkey mail you would gain. 1. Mail always opening to the Inbox. 2. Unread, Total and Size Columns in the Folder Pane. 3. Right now, I can't think of the others. I haven't use Sync, so can't answer that question. -- Thunderbird Daily | openSUSE 11.4 Linux Get openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/121/en ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
... Beauregard T. Shagnasty @ 2012-02-12 14:48 Whatever you do, don't uninstall Firefox. It is *always* good to have multiple browsers, for several reasons. You are right. That's why I don't want to get rid of FF completely. Possibly the odd add-on/extension or toolbar where the developer hasn't considered SeaMonkey. Ok for me. What is FF online data in your definition? I meant the sync feature. Personally, I use Thunderbird and Firefox, and I'm stickin' with 'em. The wife is the SeaMonkey user on this computer -- so we each have our own set. You see, that is one thing I like about Chrome, the multiple user/profile feature they introduced recently. -- MJO ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
... WLS @ 2012-02-12 15:05 As previously noted by BTS, you would lose some extension, and theme compatibility With SeaMonkey mail you would gain. 1. Mail always opening to the Inbox. 2. Unread, Total and Size Columns in the Folder Pane. 3. Right now, I can't think of the others. I haven't use Sync, so can't answer that question. Thanks a lot for the answer. -- MJO ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
oppiman wrote: Hello, I've been using TB and FF for a long time. Recently I found myself using Chrome more and more. //yeah, shame on me But I don't want to get rid of FF completely. So know I'm thinking about installing Seamonkey to replace TB and FF with one tool. What functionality would I loose? In addition SM don't have Private browsing mode and some developer tools. What would I win? SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. Can I import all settings and data from TB? Yes. Can Seamonkey browser sync with FF online data? Yes. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
oppiman wrote: Hello, I've been using TB and FF for a long time. Recently I found myself using Chrome more and more. //yeah, shame on me But I don't want to get rid of FF completely. So know I'm thinking about installing Seamonkey to replace TB and FF with one tool. What functionality would I loose? In addition SM don't have Private browsing mode and some developer tools. What would I win? SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. Can I import all settings and data from TB? Yes. Can Seamonkey browser sync with FF online data? Yes. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
Misak Khachatryan wrote: SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. Don't really care about memory, but the last point is its sole raison d'etre for me. Ctrl+1 to open browser, Ctrl+2 to open mail client. That's really all I want. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
On 02/12/2012 09:16 AM, oppiman wrote: ... Beauregard T. Shagnasty @ 2012-02-12 14:48 Whatever you do, don't uninstall Firefox. It is *always* good to have multiple browsers, for several reasons. You are right. That's why I don't want to get rid of FF completely. Possibly the odd add-on/extension or toolbar where the developer hasn't considered SeaMonkey. Ok for me. What is FF online data in your definition? I meant the sync feature. Personally, I use Thunderbird and Firefox, and I'm stickin' with 'em. The wife is the SeaMonkey user on this computer -- so we each have our own set. You see, that is one thing I like about Chrome, the multiple user/profile feature they introduced recently. There is a multiple user/profile feature with Firefox, Thunderbird, and SeaMonkey. You can use the built in profile manager to create and manage them. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_manager Even better is the stand alone profile manager which I use to manage 5 Firefox, 2 Thunderbird and 2 SeaMonkey installations. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager A way to Clean up the user profile is being worked on for Firefox 13 or later. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/Firefox_Features/Clean_up_user_profile -- Thunderbird Daily | openSUSE 11.4 Linux Get openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/121/en ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:48:04 -0600 Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote: oppiman wrote: I've been using TB and FF for a long time. Recently I found myself using Chrome more and more. //yeah, shame on me But I don't want to get rid of FF completely. So know I'm thinking about installing Seamonkey to replace TB and FF with one tool. Whatever you do, don't uninstall Firefox. It is *always* good to have multiple browsers, for several reasons. I would say dont uninstall Chrome, FF and SM are too close as far the engine goes, if you have trouble on a site with one, most likely the other will behave the same too. What functionality would I loose? Possibly the odd add-on/extension or toolbar where the developer hasn't considered SeaMonkey. What would I win? Not much. Not even fewer clicks. Well, SM with mails and all (~2 mails, gdata provider, gcontactsync, pgp, lightning) uses as much memory as Firefox or TB alone (10-20% more after a while, but still). That might be a win for someone who has lower RAM. You dont have to run them separately - you have the mail button on the lower left corner, you can close the mail component, it will sync in background and notify if there are new mails. Can I import all settings and data from TB? You can. They are 99% the same. I transferred mail and whatnot between them. You can even brute-copy everything (mail folders, contacts), but i dont recommend it. Can Seamonkey browser sync with FF online data? Seamonkey 2.7 syncs with FF, just make sure you have close versions. What is FF online data in your definition? Personally, I use Thunderbird and Firefox, and I'm stickin' with 'em. The wife is the SeaMonkey user on this computer -- so we each have our own set. -- O zi buna, Kertesz Laszlo ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
... WLS @ 2012-02-12 15:33 There is a multiple user/profile feature with Firefox, Thunderbird, and SeaMonkey. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_manager Thanks, didn't know that. -- MJO ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
On 12.02.2012 08:27, Misak Khachatryan wrote: --- Original Message --- SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. The problem with an all-in-one browser+mail application is that if one component crashes then so does the other one. If the browser component crashes then so does mail. This IMHO of course. YMMV -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
oppiman wrote: ... Beauregard T. Shagnasty @ 2012-02-12 14:48 Personally, I use Thunderbird and Firefox, and I'm stickin' with 'em. The wife is the SeaMonkey user on this computer -- so we each have our own set. You see, that is one thing I like about Chrome, the multiple user/profile feature they introduced recently. We use different products so as to prevent either one of us from making some sort of error and wiping us *both* out! :-) Sweetie, I think the button said 'Uninstall' and I clicked it! Of course, we get our own sets of cookies, cache, home pages, mail accounts, and all that - totally separate applications. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
On 12.02.2012 08:32, Philip TAYLOR wrote: --- Original Message --- Misak Khachatryan wrote: SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. Don't really care about memory, but the last point is its sole raison d'etre for me. Ctrl+1 to open browser, Ctrl+2 to open mail client. That's really all I want. Philip Taylor With FF and TB both running, ALT+TAB to switch from one to the other. Or just click the one that is minimized to the task bar. ;-) -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
Jay Garcia wrote: With FF and TB both running, ALT+TAB to switch from one to the other. Or just click the one that is minimized to the task bar. ;-) With /ONLY/ FF and TB both running, ALT+TAB to switch from one to the other. but most people will have more than just two applications running, whereupon Ctrl+1/Ctrl+2 is a clear winner, IMHO. Or just click the one that is minimized to the task bar. ;-) There is a home position for fingers on a keyboard, which is where mine rest; there is no home position w.r.t. a mouse, so my fingers hover there as little as possible ... ** Phil. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
Jay Garcia wrote: On 12.02.2012 08:27, Misak Khachatryan wrote: --- Original Message --- SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. The problem with an all-in-one browser+mail application is that if one component crashes then so does the other one. If the browser component crashes then so does mail. This IMHO of course. YMMV I didn't see crashes years, even i'm on alpha builds 3 year or more. Plugin crashes are isolated, they can't crash suite. Also even if you crash SM will restore your last state for browser, and there is nothing to restore in mail window usually. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
On 12.02.2012 08:54, Philip TAYLOR wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: With FF and TB both running, ALT+TAB to switch from one to the other. Or just click the one that is minimized to the task bar. ;-) With /ONLY/ FF and TB both running, ALT+TAB to switch from one to the other. Try it with 3 or 4 apps running. ALT+TAB and while the ALT key is held down use the TAB key to move to whatever app you want in focus. Just looking at alternatives. :-) but most people will have more than just two applications running, whereupon Ctrl+1/Ctrl+2 is a clear winner, IMHO. Also true. Or just click the one that is minimized to the task bar. ;-) There is a home position for fingers on a keyboard, which is where mine rest; there is no home position w.r.t. a mouse, so my fingers hover there as little as possible ... ** Phil. Just for grins, my wife refuses to run anything BUT Seamonkey! 8-) -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Another Down Load Problem (2.7.1)
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Larry S. wrote: That's three in a row. First it was 2.6.1, then 2.7, and now 2.7.1. In each case, I attempted to download through check for updates, and in each case SM installed and ended with the Release Notes/Changes page. However, when I leave the page and attempt to start SM, I get XULRunner Couldn't read application.ini. Yes, every time. So, off to (yikes!) IE to try another download. Finally worked each time, although I wind up with a very slow SM which eventually gets better. So, what's happening here? How do I avoid it? Is it better to d/l through IE than SM? (Yes, I'm now in the habit of making a fresh copy of my profile before d/l the new version, and I also keep a copy of the setup file for the current and previous versions, in case I can't get the new one for some reason. Thank heavens!) Can you please open a bug on it, CC me and attach to it your last-update.log So I can try and track this down. On Win7 you can find that log in: C:\\Users\USER\APPDATA\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\updates\ You might have to show hidden files and folders or some such to see the folder. Would love to help, but as a real amateur here: -- No idea how to open a bug, and definitely wouldn't know the answers to items in bug report headings; -- Am on WinXP, where there doesn't seem to be a C:\\Users folder (file?). Sorry! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey instead of TB and FF
Misak Khachatryan wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 12.02.2012 08:27, Misak Khachatryan wrote: --- Original Message --- SM uses less memory than FF+TB. And suite is more logical and feels as one program. The problem with an all-in-one browser+mail application is that if one component crashes then so does the other one. If the browser component crashes then so does mail. This IMHO of course. YMMV I didn't see crashes years, even i'm on alpha builds 3 year or more. Plugin crashes are isolated, they can't crash suite. Also even if you crash SM will restore your last state for browser, and there is nothing to restore in mail window usually. Well, I have two Linux machines where Seamonkey crashes whenever I try and send a mail, I suspect I copied the profile from one to the other at some point. If I really cared I'd try and fix the problem but basically I can live with just being able to read mails there. The browser tabs are reinstated when I restart. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Possible 2.7 bug with Flash
Having downloaded and used SM 2.7.1 I've noticed when playing videos on Youtube that the menu toolbar blanks out and becomes unusable. At the same time I am unable to load new web pages. This has happened several times now. The only way round this is to exit SM and then reload it when things are restored to normal, but the problem soon returns when using Flash. I've tried reinstalling 2.7 but the the same thing happens. I've gone back to 2.4 and the problem disappears. Anyone else noticed this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: ..and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. Fixing that would be a matter of tweaking operating system settings to something you like. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj ... server aieo.org works fine for me. -- … don't try and feel the pain. That's impossible. Just try and free ur mind. then you will realize the truth. … there is no pain. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj ... server aieo.org works fine for me. -- … don't try and feel the pain. That's impossible. Just try and free ur mind. then you will realize the truth. … there is no pain. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: chicagofan wrote: ..and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. Fixing that would be a matter of tweaking operating system settings to something you like. I've adjusted the Win7 settings as much as I can, but SM reduces to 75% so much, and the SM font settings don't work for me. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
km wrote: chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj ... server aieo.org works fine for me. Thanks... I may have to switch, but right now I don't think I can successfully add any additional news server. :( bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj I am using news.individual.net and news.ecomstation.com in addition to news.mozilla.org here. I had this setup under 2.6.1 and 2.0.13 before that and it has continued to work fine. In fact the problem with lost name/password over time is now gone with the 2.7 release. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: chicagofan wrote: ..and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. Fixing that would be a matter of tweaking operating system settings to something you like. I've adjusted the Win7 settings as much as I can, but SM reduces to 75% so much, and the SM font settings don't work for me. bj Please explain what part of SM reduces to 75% - browser, mail bodies or headers, icons, toolbars? ... -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj When you're in SeaMonkey mail, click on Edit, select Mail Newsgroups Account Settings. On the left side of the window that opens, click on Add Account. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: chicagofan wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: chicagofan wrote: ..and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. Fixing that would be a matter of tweaking operating system settings to something you like. I've adjusted the Win7 settings as much as I can, but SM reduces to 75% so much, and the SM font settings don't work for me. bj Please explain what part of SM reduces to 75% - browser, mail bodies or headers, icons, toolbars? ... I can't accurately report what was said, because I've read so much in the past few days trying to set up a new laptop, but it was at bugzilla where other people are reporting problems reading the font sizes used now. Some people were debating what changes had resulted in what they were seeing, and someone said that was done, but I can't be sure what specifically was named. Sorry, my short term memory is shot... which just adds to the difficulties, I'm having. ;) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
David H. Durgee wrote: chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj I am using news.individual.net and news.ecomstation.com in addition to news.mozilla.org here. I had this setup under 2.6.1 and 2.0.13 before that and it has continued to work fine. In fact the problem with lost name/password over time is now gone with the 2.7 release. Dave I never had a problem with the SM updates and news servers on the same machine either. It's installing this new 2.7 version on a new laptop that is giving me problems. I've contacted the news service and hopefully they will have some other suggestions besides the authenticate option I have already checked. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
JD wrote: chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj When you're in SeaMonkey mail, click on Edit, select Mail Newsgroups Account Settings. On the left side of the window that opens, click on Add Account. I have done that, and it gives me an account, but it won't connect. I don't get any messages about what is wrong, it just does nothing when I try to subscribe to some newsgroups. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj SM 2.7, Win XP Pro SP3 (is win7 that different?). Be sure that Seamonkey is checked in exceptions in windows firewall. Eternal-September works fine for me with these settings: Server settings: Server Type: News Server (NNTP) Server Name: news.eternal-september.org Port: 119 Connection Security: None Lance ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
Lance Courtland wrote: chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj SM 2.7, Win XP Pro SP3 (is win7 that different?). It is to me. :) With my video card I can no longer use 800x600 and get a full screen. If you don't use their recommended 1366 resolution, it creates havoc with web sites, and you get these narrow windows down the middle of the screen. XP ATI was perfect! :) Be sure that Seamonkey is checked in exceptions in windows firewall. Eternal-September works fine for me with these settings: Server settings: Server Type: News Server (NNTP) Server Name: news.eternal-september.org Port: 119 Connection Security: None Lance Thanks, Lance. Those are the settings I put in, but it was a no go. However, I haven't checked the Windows firewall, because I had never used it with XP. I am using Windows Defender on the new laptop, and I will check that tomorrow. Thanks! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj toggling 'ctrl +' doesn't work for you when fonts are too small? sean ps: enabling access to eternal-september.org is a multi step process... but there's not much there worth being read anymore... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Troubleshooting Information
The page I see when I select [Help Troubleshooting Information] in SeaMonkey looks very much the same as the page when I select [Help Troubleshooting Information] in Thunderbird. Is this page generated by a common component of those applications? If I were to write a bug report applicable to Troubleshooting Information in both SeaMonkey and SeaMonkey (and likely Firefox), what product and component would I specify? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 19:28, sean nathan bean told the world: further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... Yeah, I had a look around too. Apparently they are deliberately holding on IMAP in order to push for their proprietary DeltaSync protocol. But I remembered I have an old Hotmail account I no longer use. I checked it -- yeah, it is still active. So I tried to set it up in Seamonkey according to these instructions: http://www.liveside.net/2009/03/13/pop3-technology-has-now-rolled-out-to-hotmail-customers-worldwide/ ...but actually, I just followed the SM new-account wizard and filled in the blanks. Turns out it download the messages with no problems using the default POP3 port 110, with no encryption. (Although that might have been my antivirus, Avast -- there's a gateway to live.com on port 995 that I don't remember setting up, so it might be that it auto-configures these gateways for known services, so I might be using SSL on port 995 without knowing it.) Manually changing the options for Connection Security SSL/TLS (port 995) didn't seem to cause any problems. I also set up SMTP on port 587 (with STARTTLS) and it worked fine, except for a message telling me to log on and do a CAPTCHA -- which I wasn't able to find. Now I remember why I never liked Hotmail... i did get ae...@live.com to download mail once or twice into seamonkey, but they want more frequent checkins to their webmail portal apparently... thanks for taking time to poke around MC... i never used to like hotmail... and i've never used it previosly... but thought i'd give the new windowslive features a look see... me no likeee sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Any new about updating QuoteColors for SeaMonkey 2.5 and later?
I'd like use in SM 2.9 and later. I am still using 2.0.14 because QuoteColors doesn't and some others. Using the system that use the thick grey lines to show threads is totally confusing. I wish some one would change the Max Version and put it out for us to use. Or get the Author or someone to update it. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.7 - Anyone using news servers besides Mozilla server?
sean nathan bean wrote: chicagofan wrote: I don't know if it's because I added the Mozilla server first, which worked OK for awhile, but when I tried to add eternal-september.org all I could get was a news account with no connection. Couldn't download newsgroups, and I won't waste time telling you how bad it got at times. I just need to know how, and IF I can set this news server up with the u/n and password to get connected? Please take pity on me, I'm dealing with a new Win7 O/S and a new SM 2.7... and both have text and symbols that are almost illegible for these old eyes. :) bj toggling 'ctrl +' doesn't work for you when fonts are too small? Yes... that's been a real help in many cases but not all. :) Thanks! I didn't know about that until reading it here a few months ago though. sean ps: enabling access to eternal-september.org is a multi step process... but there's not much there worth being read anymore... True... I've been reduced to several technical groups and a couple of tv/entertainment groups. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Troubleshooting Information
On 12-02-12 11:54 PM, _David E. Ross_ spoke thusly: The page I see when I select [Help Troubleshooting Information] in SeaMonkey looks very much the same as the page when I select [Help Troubleshooting Information] in Thunderbird. Is this page generated by a common component of those applications? Most of the source code is shared, but it's not applied to the same data. In other words, if you go to the troubleshooting information page in SeaMonkey, it's not going to show you extensions you have installed in Thunderbird. If I were to write a bug report applicable to Troubleshooting Information in both SeaMonkey and SeaMonkey (and likely Firefox), what product and component would I specify? Toolkit:General There is some specific code for Thunderbird (to add account info), but it appears that SeaMonkey doesn't use it. [Followup set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
