Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj I don't want to see them. You can't delete Newsgroup post. (I would love the ability to do) so next best thing is mark them read. BTW I apparently have to Chris I. Changing from match exactly to match any of the following appears to work. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj That what I do - delete message. Why even bother downloading what you want to filter anyway? Newsgroups work different: when subscribed to newsgroups all the headers are download. when you open to read if you don't want to read either filter to mark header read before you even open the group. Or switch modes so you see only titles mark everything you don't want to read then switch back to read. each item you click on to read is then downloaded. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj I don't want to see them. You can't delete Newsgroup post. (I would love the ability to do) so next best thing is mark them read. BTW I apparently have to Chris I. Changing from match exactly to match any of the following appears to work. Sorry left out a word BTW I apparently have to *thank* Chris I. Changing from match exactly to match any of the following appears to work. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
PhillipJones wrote: Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj That what I do - delete message. Why even bother downloading what you want to filter anyway? Newsgroups work different: when subscribed to newsgroups all the headers are download. when you open to read if you don't want to read either filter to mark header read before you even open the group. Or switch modes so you see only titles mark everything you don't want to read then switch back to read. each item you click on to read is then downloaded. I use Delete Message. And I never see the headers, nor the message - I can't open them because they simply don't show up. I use the Log to track which ones are being deleted/ignored and tune my filters if any of the keywords I use are deleting messages I actually want to see. I've been doing it this way for years (even now) and it works. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Help your old grandfather?
I need expert help. I posted earlier with my problems concerning the loss of my passwords. Things are worse than when I posted earlier. I am now asked, right up front, to enter password for google. It doesn't seem to matter whether I chose to enter it or ignore it, life goes on. Equipment: HP desktop, Pavilion NY705AA-ABA p6204y, Windows 7, Home Premium, all additions up to date. Sea Monkey 2.8, Avast free, Zone Alarm free, Windows Defender-up to date. My future plan/proposal: Uninstall SM entirely Delete Profile (if I can find it) Delete any other SM files (completely obliterate SM) Select a new browser, install, configure. Suggestions please. I am leaning toward Safari and Google Chrome. I have looked at Opera but did not like it. Import bookmarks but not passwords. Establish two e-mail accounts. They will be the ones from my ISP and one from gmail. I realize I will have to build password file from scratch but I can live with that. Now: Is this plan feasible/doable/advisable? I have about 50 years experience around computers (1st generation, 1960 IBM RAMAC - 2012 Windows 7) but I have been left behind and overwhelmed by changes in technology since my retirement in 1984. My main goal is to get rid of the requirement for entering username and/or passwords every time I turn around and to simplify my use and the enjoyment of using my computer. Any advise, encouragement, help or criticisms respectfully considered. Walter P.S. I have run a scan with Avast and no problems were detected. w ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
Rufus wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj That what I do - delete message. Why even bother downloading what you want to filter anyway? Newsgroups work different: when subscribed to newsgroups all the headers are download. when you open to read if you don't want to read either filter to mark header read before you even open the group. Or switch modes so you see only titles mark everything you don't want to read then switch back to read. each item you click on to read is then downloaded. I use Delete Message. And I never see the headers, nor the message - I can't open them because they simply don't show up. I use the Log to track which ones are being deleted/ignored and tune my filters if any of the keywords I use are deleting messages I actually want to see. I've been doing it this way for years (even now) and it works. Same here, Rufus. I think he's using a Mac and I'm using a PC, but I'm surprised that he says he doesn't have the option to Delete Message in his filter list. Regardless, he got the problem he was having solved by following Chris' instructions. That's what matters. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help your old grandfather?
Interviewed by CNN on 24/03/2012 13:24, Walter told the world: I need expert help. I posted earlier with my problems concerning the loss of my passwords. Things are worse than when I posted earlier. I am now asked, right up front, to enter password for google. It doesn't seem to matter whether I chose to enter it or ignore it, life goes on. Walter, I really am not sure I understand what have happened here. Do you mean ALL sites keep asking you for passwords? Even the ones where you DIDN'T have an account? That's a very odd symptom. I mean, yeah, you can log on to Google, but it usually doesn't prompt you for a password right at the bat, unless you are accessing one of the services (like Gmail) that don't work without an account. Let's try to isolate it -- is it a profile corruption issue, an add-in issue or a problem in Seamonkey itself? 1. Try running Seamonkey in Safe Mode. If the problem disappears, it's likely to be an add-on issue. Try re-enabling your add-ons one at a time until you find the culprit. 2. Try creating a new, blank profile. If you can browser with no problems, then it's a profile corruption issue. It's possible to rescue most of your data from the old profile, but it takes a bit of work. 3. Maybe the Seamonkey program files got themselves corrupted. Uninstall SM, check that the c:\program files (x86)\Seamonkey got deleted, then reinstall Seamonkey. Equipment: HP desktop, Pavilion NY705AA-ABA p6204y, Windows 7, Home Premium, all additions up to date. Sea Monkey 2.8, Avast free, Zone Alarm free, Windows Defender-up to date. Yes, that's an impressive set of protective software. But even the best antivirus/antimalware products fail now and then. The possibility of a malware infection must not be discarded. I might mention here in passing that even Microsoft suggests disabling Windows Defender if you have another program with similar features (like Avast), to avoid the performance penalty. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my smoke signals pit. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.8 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help your old grandfather?
I'd suggest using a separate product to keep track of all your userids passwords. That way you're not restricted to a single browser, backup/restore is easier, you're not SOL when the browser vendor decides to change (or drop!) functionality, etc. I like password safe - http://sourceforge.net/projects/passwordsafe/ Regards, Lee On 3/24/12, Walter nobody.u.no@nowhere.atall wrote: I need expert help. I posted earlier with my problems concerning the loss of my passwords. Things are worse than when I posted earlier. I am now asked, right up front, to enter password for google. It doesn't seem to matter whether I chose to enter it or ignore it, life goes on. Equipment: HP desktop, Pavilion NY705AA-ABA p6204y, Windows 7, Home Premium, all additions up to date. Sea Monkey 2.8, Avast free, Zone Alarm free, Windows Defender-up to date. My future plan/proposal: Uninstall SM entirely Delete Profile (if I can find it) Delete any other SM files (completely obliterate SM) Select a new browser, install, configure. Suggestions please. I am leaning toward Safari and Google Chrome. I have looked at Opera but did not like it. Import bookmarks but not passwords. Establish two e-mail accounts. They will be the ones from my ISP and one from gmail. I realize I will have to build password file from scratch but I can live with that. Now: Is this plan feasible/doable/advisable? I have about 50 years experience around computers (1st generation, 1960 IBM RAMAC - 2012 Windows 7) but I have been left behind and overwhelmed by changes in technology since my retirement in 1984. My main goal is to get rid of the requirement for entering username and/or passwords every time I turn around and to simplify my use and the enjoyment of using my computer. Any advise, encouragement, help or criticisms respectfully considered. Walter P.S. I have run a scan with Avast and no problems were detected. w ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
chicagofan wrote: Rufus wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj That what I do - delete message. Why even bother downloading what you want to filter anyway? Newsgroups work different: when subscribed to newsgroups all the headers are download. when you open to read if you don't want to read either filter to mark header read before you even open the group. Or switch modes so you see only titles mark everything you don't want to read then switch back to read. each item you click on to read is then downloaded. I use Delete Message. And I never see the headers, nor the message - I can't open them because they simply don't show up. I use the Log to track which ones are being deleted/ignored and tune my filters if any of the keywords I use are deleting messages I actually want to see. I've been doing it this way for years (even now) and it works. Same here, Rufus. I think he's using a Mac and I'm using a PC, but I'm surprised that he says he doesn't have the option to Delete Message in his filter list. Regardless, he got the problem he was having solved by following Chris' instructions. That's what matters. :) bj *I'm* using a Mac...so he should be able to do the same thing we're both doing. But at least there's more than one way to skin the cat... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?
On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote: SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some setting I can change to get the old way back? Or at least change the border from black to white? Jim I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the user-specified background color. It was closed as WontFix without any explaination of why that would be a bad idea. I reopened the bug report to request such an explanation. I don't know how long it will remain open. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738948. In the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html newsgroup, we are frequently reminded that Web pages should not attempt to override how users have configured their browsers. Here, however, we have a case where someone decided to have the browser override how users configure their browsers. This is just plain wrong. Can a Mozilla develeoper please explain why that is not wrong? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?
David E. Ross wrote, On 24/03/2012 20:37: On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote: SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some setting I can change to get the old way back? Or at least change the border from black to white? Jim I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the user-specified background color. It was closed as WontFix without any explaination of why that would be a bad idea. I reopened the bug report to request such an explanation. I don't know how long it will remain open. Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738948. In the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html newsgroup, we are frequently reminded that Web pages should not attempt to override how users have configured their browsers. Here, however, we have a case where someone decided to have the browser override how users configure their browsers. This is just plain wrong. Can a Mozilla develeoper please explain why that is not wrong? Did you know that the developpers knows better than you, what is good for you ??? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: Rufus wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: Paul wrote: PhillipJones wrote: chicagofan wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I've read a specific newsgroup Comp.sys.mac.apps I've setup some filters for certain individual and subjects that offensive. I turned the people sending into abuse for the New Servers. One more or less said don't Bother me. The other did remove the messages like the should have. So decided to create filters to mark them read. They don't work. Turns out that SeaMonkey sometime or another has removed the ability to filter news Groups. When did this happen and why? Now spam and offensive material I don't want to read I can no longer mark as read. So I have to go through each group each topic, subtopic and mark read before I can enjoy reading the group. To say I am steamed would be minimizing the way feel now. All I want to do as mark them as read as soon as I go so I don't have to deal it. Have you tried deleting them? Filters work fine for me in ngs, but I choose to delete them in the filter. bj This is what I get : http://www.screencast.com/t/wc08FQZZ afaik, NS/SM has never had NG filters up to 1119. I don't know about 2+. At any rate, I have never been able to find or use such for NG's. fyi- cannot del NG postings... at least not easily and possibly not legally. I have always had message filters for Newsgroups, and I think you've misunderstood about how Delete Messages is accomplished. We can't do it in the newsgroups, but we can set our NG message *filters* to delete them, so that we never have to see them. It is so nice. :) bj I'm not interested in deleting I mistyped. I just don't want to read the stuff. It's not actually deleting them... it just keeps them from appearing in YOUR newsgroup download. Why do you want to see them if they're offensive... and you're not going to read them? bj That what I do - delete message. Why even bother downloading what you want to filter anyway? Newsgroups work different: when subscribed to newsgroups all the headers are download. when you open to read if you don't want to read either filter to mark header read before you even open the group. Or switch modes so you see only titles mark everything you don't want to read then switch back to read. each item you click on to read is then downloaded. I use Delete Message. And I never see the headers, nor the message - I can't open them because they simply don't show up. I use the Log to track which ones are being deleted/ignored and tune my filters if any of the keywords I use are deleting messages I actually want to see. I've been doing it this way for years (even now) and it works. Same here, Rufus. I think he's using a Mac and I'm using a PC, but I'm surprised that he says he doesn't have the option to Delete Message in his filter list. Regardless, he got the problem he was having solved by following Chris' instructions. That's what matters. :) bj *I'm* using a Mac...so he should be able to do the same thing we're both doing. But at least there's more than one way to skin the cat... I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. The titles keep changing. Just have to get rid of it until they get bored. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Increase font size in main SM 2.8 Mail/News window
Greetings, I have looked around to locate the correct solution to adjust (larger) the font size of the main SM 2.8 Mail/News window. Both the email account folders, and the message lists of each folder. Suggestions please? TIA! -- Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?
On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote: SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some setting I can change to get the old way back? Or at least change the border from black to white? Jim I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the user-specified background color. It was closed as WontFix without any explaination of why that would be a bad idea. I reopened the bug report to request such an explanation. I don't know how long it will remain open. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738948. In the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html newsgroup, we are frequently reminded that Web pages should not attempt to override how users have configured their browsers. Here, however, we have a case where someone decided to have the browser override how users configure their browsers. This is just plain wrong. Can a Mozilla develeoper please explain why that is not wrong? My 2 cents. If I change color preference to Use System colors the background becomes white. If I pick a color in the palette, the background uses that color. If I Allow pages to chose their own colors, instead of my selections above (my default) the background is a dark grey. The browser isn't overriding my settings at all, depending on how I configure my preferences. -- Thunderbird Beta | openSUSE 12.1 | KDE 4.7.2 Humans aren't a color of skin, a religion, a sex, a sexual orientation, or a flag. We are human beings and that is how we need to see and treat each other. - Justin Sane ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Increase font size in main SM 2.8 Mail/News window
On 03/25/2012 12:13 AM, *Michael Lueck* wrote, and I quote (in part):
I have looked around to locate the correct solution to adjust
(larger) the font size of the main SM 2.8 Mail/News window. Both the
email account folders, and the message lists of each folder.
Stylish:
treechildren {font-size: 12pt !important; font-family: 'dejavu sans'
!important;}
(Where 12pt is size and dejavu sans is name of font)
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Re: 2.8 Graphics (.jpg) display change?
On 3/24/12 4:32 PM, WLS wrote: On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 3/15/12 9:56 AM, Jim Taylor wrote: SeaMonkey 2.8 now displays graphic files (.jpg, .png, .gif) that are not full screen centered with a black border around the picture. The previous way through 2.7.2 was to display them top left justified on a white screen. Is this change by design And if so is there some setting I can change to get the old way back? Or at least change the border from black to white? Jim I submitted bug #738948, requesting a user option to use the user-specified background color. It was closed as WontFix without any explaination of why that would be a bad idea. I reopened the bug report to request such an explanation. I don't know how long it will remain open. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738948. In the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html newsgroup, we are frequently reminded that Web pages should not attempt to override how users have configured their browsers. Here, however, we have a case where someone decided to have the browser override how users configure their browsers. This is just plain wrong. Can a Mozilla develeoper please explain why that is not wrong? My 2 cents. If I change color preference to Use System colors the background becomes white. If I pick a color in the palette, the background uses that color. If I Allow pages to chose their own colors, instead of my selections above (my default) the background is a dark grey. The browser isn't overriding my settings at all, depending on how I configure my preferences. This thread in general applies only to viewing stand-alone images. Stand-alone images are what you see when you place your cursor over an image on a Web page, right-click, and select View Image in the pull-down context menu. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Increase font size in main SM 2.8 Mail/News window
Hello!
On 03/25/2012 12:35 AM, *Petr Voralek* wrote, and I quote (in part):
Stylish:
treechildren {font-size: 12pt !important; font-family: 'dejavu sans'
!important;}
(Where 12pt is size and dejavu sans is name of font)
This is much better (does not affect the browser sidebar, etc):
1) install https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/stylish/ addon
2) go to about:addons - User Styles, click to Write New Style button
3) copy paste these two long lines:
#threadTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {font-size: 12pt
!important; font-family: 'dejavu sans' !important;}
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {font-size: 12pt
!important; font-family: 'dejavu sans' !important;}
4) click to Save button
5) ?
6) profit...
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Petr Voralek(JabberID: na...@jabber.cz)
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Re: Help your old grandfather?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 24/03/2012 13:24, Walter told the world: I need expert help. I posted earlier with my problems concerning the loss of my passwords. Things are worse than when I posted earlier. I am now asked, right up front, to enter password for google. It doesn't seem to matter whether I chose to enter it or ignore it, life goes on. Walter, I really am not sure I understand what have happened here. Do you mean ALL sites keep asking you for passwords? Even the ones where you DIDN'T have an account? That's a very odd symptom. I mean, yeah, you can log on to Google, but it usually doesn't prompt you for a password right at the bat, unless you are accessing one of the services (like Gmail) that don't work without an account. MCbastos: My ISP AND gmail uses pop.gmail.com for receiving, smtp.gmail.com for sending. Somehow, I had the two separated with separate passwords but the pop and smtp the same. Now I have only one of them working, using the pw for gmail. Let's try to isolate it -- is it a profile corruption issue, an add-in issue or a problem in Seamonkey itself? I suspect it is a profile error but I am not sure. 1. Try running Seamonkey in Safe Mode. If the problem disappears, it's likely to be an add-on issue. Try re-enabling your add-ons one at a time until you find the culprit. I tried running SM in a safe mode and it wouldn't do anything correctly. 2. Try creating a new, blank profile. If you can browser with no problems, then it's a profile corruption issue. It's possible to rescue most of your data from the old profile, but it takes a bit of work. That will be my next try. By blank, you mean with no parameters? Just let SM fill in the blanks? 3. Maybe the Seamonkey program files got themselves corrupted. Uninstall SM, check that the c:\program files (x86)\Seamonkey got deleted, then reinstall Seamonkey. I will try this after I try # 2 and that doesn't work. (said the pessimist) Equipment: HP desktop, Pavilion NY705AA-ABA p6204y, Windows 7, Home Premium, all additions up to date. Sea Monkey 2.8, Avast free, Zone Alarm free, Windows Defender-up to date. Yes, that's an impressive set of protective software. But even the best antivirus/antimalware products fail now and then. The possibility of a malware infection must not be discarded. I might mention here in passing that even Microsoft suggests disabling Windows Defender if you have another program with similar features (like Avast), to avoid the performance penalty. I can put up with a little performance penalty at this point but will keep this in mind. I am grateful for your suggestions and please stay with me as long as it is convenient for you. I understand there is a point of diminishing results in this kind of situation. Walter. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
PhillipJones wrote: I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. No, you should blacklist (filter out) Google Groups, the source of nearly all Usenet spam. Real people use Gmail and Yahoo addresses, so that is not a good idea. http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ -- -bts -Is legit a legitimate word? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
Interviewed by CNN on 24/03/2012 22:41, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the world: PhillipJones wrote: I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. No, you should blacklist (filter out) Google Groups, the source of nearly all Usenet spam. Real people use Gmail and Yahoo addresses, so that is not a good idea. http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ I had a look at that... and at this page: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html it's claimed that Thunderbird/Seamonkey is unable to filter on Message-ID. That may be true on the default setup (I'm not sure, it has been *so long* since I started a profile from scratch..) but it's not completely true. First, it's possible to create custom headers as explained here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Filters (I dimly remember having to do *something* to get that option to set up custom headers. Maybe they are/used to be hidden by default, and I had to change some about:config setting?) And then, for even more options, there's FiltaQuilla: http://mesquilla.com/extensions/filtaquilla/ -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Bat-Computer. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.8 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help your old grandfather?
Interviewed by CNN on 24/03/2012 21:56, Walter told the world: My ISP AND gmail uses pop.gmail.com for receiving, smtp.gmail.com for sending. Somehow, I had the two separated with separate passwords but the pop and smtp the same. Now I have only one of them working, using the pw for gmail. OK, now we are getting to something. Yeah, it seems that Seamonkey lost one or more of your mail passwords, or perhaps . That would account for it popping up requests for the password -- every time it attempts to connect to the mail server and fails. So, let's try a couple things. First, it's possible that there is a corrupted saved password keeping you from saving it anew. So we will attempt to get rid of that old, damaged password. Open Tools/Data Manager On the left pane, look for gmail.com. Click to select it. On the right pane, select the passwords tab. Find the lines related to the troublesome account. Select them and click remove to delete them (there are probably two of them for each account: one for the POP server, and another for the SMTP server). Close Seamonkey, wait a few seconds to let it close completely, and reopen it. Now when downloading mail for this account. Seamonkey will prompt you for the correct password; this is normal. But, hopefully, now you should be able to tick the save password option and make it stick. Note that it will prompt you again the first time you send a message through that account; this could happen immediately, if you happen to have messages queued for sending. This is also normal, use that save password checkbox again. With a little bit of luck, Seamonkey should be accessing your mail accounts normally from now on. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Sinclair ZX81. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.8 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. No, you should blacklist (filter out) Google Groups, the source of nearly all Usenet spam. Real people use Gmail and Yahoo addresses, so that is not a good idea. http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ How would you phrase in filter. I have two Use net servers I subscribe to, that are plagued with this problem. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
MCBastos wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. No, you should blacklist (filter out) Google Groups, the source of nearly all Usenet spam. Real people use Gmail and Yahoo addresses, so that is not a good idea. http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ I had a look at that... and at this page: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html it's claimed that Thunderbird/Seamonkey is unable to filter on Message-ID. That may be true on the default setup (I'm not sure, it has been *so long* since I started a profile from scratch..) but it's not completely true. First, it's possible to create custom headers as explained here: Those pages are not up to date. They were written by the late Blinky the Shark (longtime Usenet guy who died young a few years ago), and archived by someone else. Yes, Tbird/Seamonkey can now filter on Message ID, but could not when Blinky wrote those pages. It's quite simple to do so now. The pages are often recommended when someone complains of spam. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Filters (I dimly remember having to do *something* to get that option to set up custom headers. Maybe they are/used to be hidden by default, and I had to change some about:config setting?) There's a customize button in the filter dialog if I remember correctly. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. No, you should blacklist (filter out) Google Groups, the source of nearly all Usenet spam. Real people use Gmail and Yahoo addresses, so that is not a good idea. http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ How would you phrase in filter. I have two Use net servers I subscribe to, that are plagued with this problem. Filter on the Message ID contains googlegroups, and Mark Read or Delete or whatever you choose. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
PhillipJones wrote: Rufus wrote: chicagofan wrote: Rufus wrote: I use Delete Message. And I never see the headers, nor the message - I can't open them because they simply don't show up. I use the Log to track which ones are being deleted/ignored and tune my filters if any of the keywords I use are deleting messages I actually want to see. I've been doing it this way for years (even now) and it works. Same here, Rufus. I think he's using a Mac and I'm using a PC, but I'm surprised that he says he doesn't have the option to Delete Message in his filter list. Regardless, he got the problem he was having solved by following Chris' instructions. That's what matters. :) bj *I'm* using a Mac...so he should be able to do the same thing we're both doing. But at least there's more than one way to skin the cat... I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. The titles keep changing. Just have to get rid of it until they get bored. Yes - that's how I maintain my filter keyword list (every dirty word or off-color short phrase I can think of...) - by looking over the Filter Log from time to time. Sometimes I do trap the odd message I'd like to have seen and have to go back and revise my filter. In general it seems to knock out the whole thread when it catches something on my list, but not always. I filter mostly on Subject, but also on a few odd Senders. It would be really nice to be able to filter on header information - like Path or IP - to stop a particular bit of spam, but that would require a new feature. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filters not usable on newgroups
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: I guess I could blacklist gmail.com and yahoo.com problem is there might be some legit posting. No, you should blacklist (filter out) Google Groups, the source of nearly all Usenet spam. Real people use Gmail and Yahoo addresses, so that is not a good idea. http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ How would you phrase in filter. I have two Use net servers I subscribe to, that are plagued with this problem. Filter on the Message ID contains googlegroups, and Mark Read or Delete or whatever you choose. I created one main filter and then duplicated that file into other server Accounts and other Profiles - even on other machines. Worked like a charm. Then once those were in place I did have to go and do a bit of editing specific to each server, but it saved me a *lot* of typing by doing the file duplication/moves. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
