Re: Moving Mozilla profile information email to SeaMonkey Profiles

2012-04-03 Thread Daniel

Jim Pivonka wrote:

I've long used Mozilla Mail for my email, and have maintained the
browser as a repository for Bookmarks. I want to shift both the email
and bookmarks to new SeaMonkey (2.8) installations. I found two
discussions of transferring email to SeaMonkey on the Forum, one from
September 2008 and one from October, 2009. From those it looks like I
may be able to transfer the files, manually, to new SM profiles or
directories in a new profile. I see that automated transfer from prior
installs of Moz or SM is impossible after SM 2.0.  Can you point me to
a good, current, source for the procedures I need to use to move this
information to the new SM 2.8 installation? Or to additional
discussions which might be useful in developing and using my own
procedures?

The discussions I found are at
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/f1886cd300d18ba7/b8394b64fb8be189?lnk=gstq=migrate+mozilla+email+to+seamonkey#b8394b64fb8be189
and
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/93e93d715db7a602/a5f5246624e1dde2?lnk=gstq=migrate+mozilla+email+to+seamonkey#a5f5246624e1dde2


Jim, what is wrong with you moving from Mozilla Suite to SeaMonkey 1.1.x 
to SM 2.0 and then, finally, to SM 2.8.


I think this would fully cover all file type conversions and get you 
up-to-date fairly easily!!


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Re: SeaMonkey Help is back�with screencasts!

2012-04-03 Thread Desiree

Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message 
news:dp-dncopijhenefsnz2dnuvz_gqdn...@mozilla.org...
 On 12-04-02 5:45 AM, Desiree wrote:
 I just get a blank page when going to your site both in Fx 10 Enterprise 
 and
 SM 2.6.1 on two different computers both running XP Pro. Mozilla in its
 wisdom saw fit to blacklist my video driver which does HTML5 just fine 
 on
 Opera and had passed all Mozilla tests for HTML5 until Mozilla decided to
 blacklist it and then, of course, the HTML5 tests no longer worked. I 
 have
 zero interest in updating my video driver. I like the version I use and 
 have
 specific reasons for why I use this version of nVidia nForce driver.  I
 would never have blamed Mozilla if my video driver caused Fx or SM to 
 crash
 so I don't think Mozilla should arbitrarily placed video drivers older 
 than
 the date they chose on a black list as some very old drivers work fine 
 with
 HTML5 yet Mozilla put them on the black list. (I didn't blame Mozilla 
 when
 Fx4 was crashing constantly a year ago and it turned out to be nVidia's
 nView that I love greatly but I had to disable it forever if I wanted to 
 use
 Fx4 and above. I lost 50% of the functionality of my video card just to 
 be
 able to use Fx4 but I didn't blame Mozilla so I certainly would not have
 blamed Mozilla if my video driver had problems with HTML5 on Fx or SM. 
 Thus,
 I don't think Mozilla should have placed any video card driver versions 
 on a
 black list.

 So, I can't use your help site unless I use Opera there which sort of
 defeats the purpose. When I get a new computer (waiting for OEMs to get 
 Ivy
 Bridge processors) I guess the issue will be moot on the new computer. I
 think it is a shame you chose to make video only as I can't learn that 
 way.
 I am a reader not a movie watcher. I want a help site to have text and
 screenshots. I rarely use Flash Player and don't even have it installed
 except on IE for my ISP's speed test but otherwise I don't want FP and 
 HTML5
 is probably going to be even worse than FP as far as never ending 
 security
 issues go and privacy invasion for the user so I disagree strongly with 
 your
 decision to make your help site HTML5 dependent.

 Whoa! You're making incorrect assumptions based on incorrect assumptions. 
 So let's back up a bit, explain what driver blacklisting is, and figure 
 out the /real/ reason you can't access HTML5 sites.


 _What does graphics driver blacklisting do_
 SeaMonkey (as well as some plugins) have a feature called hardware 
 acceleration, in which your graphics processor is used for drawing 
 operations. There's also a web standard called WebGL, in javascript is 
 used to render 3d graphics in web browsers. If your graphics driver is 
 known to cause problems with hardware acceleration or webgl, SeaMonkey 
 will disable hardware acceleration and webgl on your installation.

I stand corrected. I hate getting older. I forget pieces of things way more 
easily than when I was younger. I had forgotten about WebGL. I had to go 
read my own posts about it again in a Mozilla forum. Now I remember my video 
driver is supposed to have problems with hardware acceleration but I took 
the Mozilla test many times on Fx4, Opera 10.6 and Iron before Mozilla 
blocked my video driver and scored 60+FPS on Fx4. 
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/09/hardware-acceleration/

I don't recall if I tested on SM. I think back then I still had a really old 
version of SM and was enamoured with Fx4 which I had recently upgraded to 
from Fx 1.5 but Opera was still my default browser then and had been for two 
years (now Fx 4 on my host and Fx10 Enterprise on a virtual machine are my 
default browsers and I upgraded SM six months or so ago and use it quite a 
bit also and use Opera less as I am not crazy about Opera 11x. I was able to 
watch WebM video on Opera long before Fx ever offered it.

 Neither of those are part of HTML5.


 _What are the affects of using a driver that is on the blacklist_
 The drawback to a blocked graphics driver is that webpage performance will 
 not be as fast. You will still be able to access the same websites.

 _Is Flash needed to watch the screencasts_
 No. HTML5 video does not require any plugin. HTML5 does not have LSOs 
 (Flash cookies).

 _What reasons could be for a blank page at seamonkey.ilias.ca_
 Maybe it's because the search box uses an iframe? If you go to a page that 
 doesn't have a search box, like http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/installing/, 
 do you still get a blank page?

The above page is fine.  I also am not getting a blank page now at 
seamonkey.ilias.ca. Your site though is very inconsistent for me. For 
instance, in the column on the left, if I click on any question under FAQ 
Browser, I get a screenshot that says Welcome to SeaMonkey and nothing else. 
I get the same screenshot on ALL questions under Browser. Under FAQ 
Profiles, I get text only answers, no screenshots. Under FAQ General, I get 
a different screenshot that says Welcome 

Re: SeaMonkey Help is back�with screencasts!

2012-04-03 Thread Desiree

NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote in message 
news:djydnckhbdqqjufsnz2dnuvz_uedn...@mozilla.org...
 On 04/02/2012 12:39 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
 
 Whatever reasons you have for not updating your graphics driver, it
 something you should do. You can find instuctions at
 http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-upgrade-my-graphics-drivers


 Keep in mind that in many cases, the user is running the latest graphics
 driver for their card. Example:

There is a newer video driver for this card but you are right that after 
about 1 to 1.5 years after you get the video card the last driver that 
works, and doesn't cause a bunch of problems, is issued. After that, nVidia 
may claim you can install a newer driver but if you do you will usually have 
lots of problems and have to uninstall it.  I stopped upgrading the driver 
early though at only six months after I got this old computer when the newer 
driver would have worked fine except nVidia decided to force all of us who 
hated the new Vista nVidia panel (and thus we kept using the classic nVidia 
panel) to upgrade to the new vista panel which was missing about 50% of the 
options in the classic panel and which worked extremely, agonizingly slowly 
on XP computers like mine. The new panel was designed for Vista and Win 7. 
nvidia was very wrong to force XP users to the new panel like they did 
especially when using it lost us 50% of the functionality of the card and 
took away one of the main reasons I chose nVidia over ATI. Many of us simply 
did what I did and refused any further upgrades to our video driver so we 
could continue using the classic nVidia panel and we vented our anger and 
frustration in a thread that lasted many years and reached about 1000 posts 
at nVidia official forums. I did continue though to upgrade the driver 
package for audio, ethernet, SMBus, SATA IDE and SATA RAID, etc. for the 
nVidia mobo but there were only a few of those.

 Graphics
 Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Corporation -- Quadro4 900 XGL/AGP/SSE2Driver
 Version1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.19
 WebGL RendererBlocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating
 your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer.
 GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. Try
 updating your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer.
 Note: I also have .20 installed on the same machine.
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.20-driver.html

 96.43.19 *is* the current version for that card (linux). The boilerplate
 NVIDIA 257.21 or newer is nonsense as that driver doesn't work with
 the Quadro4 900 XGL.
 The version that I have installed on WinXP (Version: 91.36) *is* the
 current WinXP driver. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_91.36.html

 Fact of the matter is that my Quadro4 will never support WebGL. Reason
 being is that, even if the hardware supported it, nVidia will never
 update the driver to do so. The card simply is too old and they would
 rather sell new cards (understandably).
  The card works just fine for me; Supports OpenGL  GLX, I can rotate
 my desktops in 3D, use 3D graphics for CAD and other programs, etc. So I
 see no reason to go spend additional $$ to buy one simply to run WebGL.
 


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Re: SeaMonkey Help is back�with screencasts!

2012-04-03 Thread Desiree

NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote in message 
news:cdudnqulwkrekofsnz2dnuvz_rodn...@mozilla.org...
 On 04/02/2012 02:45 AM, Desiree wrote:
 Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message
 news:fo2dnunmh4lpvuvsnz2dnuvz_qedn...@mozilla.org...
 I've finished updating http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/!

 Aside from content now being up to date, the big change is that it is
 mostly screencasts. I've written a blog post about it at
 http://ilias.ca/blog/2012/03/seamonkey-help-is-back-with-screencasts/.
 ...
 I just get a blank page when going to your site both in Fx 10 Enterprise 
 and
 SM 2.6.1 on two different computers both running XP Pro. Mozilla in its
 wisdom saw fit to blacklist my video driver which does HTML5 just fine 
 on
 Opera and had passed all Mozilla tests for HTML5 until Mozilla decided to
 blacklist it and then, of course, the HTML5 tests no longer worked. I 
 have
 zero interest in updating my video driver. I like the version I use and 
 have
 specific reasons for why I use this version of nVidia nForce driver.  I

 Perhaps if you upgraded to 2.8 you might not have the problem. The
 blacklisted drivers are for WebGL, not HTML5. Here are mine:

I didn't upgrade SM to 2.7 because an extension would not work so SM told 
me.  I have not tried to since then to see if the extension may work with SM 
2.8.

 
 Graphics
 Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Corporation -- Quadro4 900 XGL/AGP/SSE2Driver
 Version1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.19
 WebGL RendererBlocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating
 your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer.
 GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. Try
 updating your graphics driver to version NVIDIA 257.21 or newer.


 And from a WinXP with the same nVidia card:
 Graphics
 Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGLVendor ID0x10de
 Device ID0x0258Adapter RAMUnknownAdapter
 Driversnv4_dispDriver Version9.1.3.6Driver Date7-12-2006
 WebGL Rendererfalse
 GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics driver version.
 

 And I can render the HTML5 just fine. I also have WinXP running in a
 VMWare virtual machine. That VM uses an SVG II 2D video driver, and I
 can view the HTML5 on that as well:

I checked my Workstation 7 virtual machine and I can't see anything about 
the video driver that is being used. That information is missing. I haven't 
looked at that for ages but I used to be able to see it. I also have no 
information on using multiple monitors and that should be visible too. There 
is a newer version of Workstation that I keep being bugged to install. I 
have resisted because it is a hassle to update Workstation. You essentially 
cannot. You have to uninstall the current version and then install the new 
version. I doubt I have enough space on my drive to download the new version 
which is huge. I am extremely low on space. I am waiting for Ivy Bridge 
processors to buy a new computer so I haven't been really concerned about 
this disk space on this one as it has a bulging capicator on the mobo so its 
days are limited anyway. But if I can free up some space, I will go ahead 
and install the latest Workstation update and see if that fixes the missing 
video driver information and maybe makes it so I can view HTML5.

 WebGL RendererBlocked for your graphics card because of unresolved
 driver issues.
 GPU Accelerated Windows0. Blocked for your graphics card because of
 unresolved driver issues.

 So I'd recommend upgrading to 2.8. 2.8 resolved/fixed several HTML5 
 issues:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.8/#new
 as did SeaMonkey 2.7:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.7/changes


 would never have blamed Mozilla if my video driver caused Fx or SM to 
 crash
 so I don't think Mozilla should arbitrarily placed video drivers older 
 than
 the date they chose on a black list as some very old drivers work fine 
 with
 HTML5 yet Mozilla put them on the black list. (I didn't blame Mozilla 
 when
 Fx4 was crashing constantly a year ago and it turned out to be nVidia's
 nView that I love greatly but I had to disable it forever if I wanted to 
 use
 Fx4 and above. I lost 50% of the functionality of my video card just to 
 be
 able to use Fx4 but I didn't blame Mozilla so I certainly would not have
 blamed Mozilla if my video driver had problems with HTML5 on Fx or SM. 
 Thus,
 I don't think Mozilla should have placed any video card driver versions 
 on a
 black list.

 Interesting... On the WinXP I have nView 110.44 installed and working.
 It's never cause an issue with Firefox or SeaMonkey for me. You might
 try reinstalling to see if it is still giving you issues with the
 current version of Firefox (11) or SeaMonkey (2.8).

My nView version is 110.60. I had no problems until I upgraded Fx from 1.5 
(that I used for a very long time because of one extension that was not 
available on Fx 2 or 3 but became available again for Fx4) to Fx 4 a year 
ago. From the moment I installed Fx 4, it began 

Re: Your browser is blocking Flash error message (ATT Yahoo)

2012-04-03 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Jay O'Brien wrote:
 I hope someone finds a resolution to this problem soon. I have three 
 computers,
 using different logins to ATT/Yahoo; two are XP and the third is Windows 7 64-
 bit. They all receive the message quoted below that was reported by Rostyslaw.
 
 If PrefBar or something else is needed, I'll install it, but after it is 
 reported here that it is a fix that works.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jay O'Brien
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Your browser is blocking Flash error message
 Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:24:52 -0400
 From: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj urj...@bellsouth.net
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 
 SM 2.8  on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS
 
 Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the
 following error message box:
 
 ---
 Flash required for this application X
 Your browser is blocking Flash. You must have Flash 9.0 or higher installed 
 and 
 unblocked to run an openmail application. You can download and install the 
 latest Flash Player _here_
 
 OK
 --
 
 where that _here_ is a link to the  Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.228
 download page which reports:
 
  Your system: Windows 64-bit , English, Firefox
  Do you have a different operating system or browser?
 
  Note:The 64-bit Flash Player installer includes both a 32-bit and 64-bit 
 version of Flash Player
 
 To be on the safe side, just in case my Flash had become disconnected from SM
 I downloaded and reinstalled it.
 However the error message keeps coming back whenever I log in to webmail,
 But if I click on the X (to close the error box) or on OK, the error box
 goes away and my webmail session appears to work without crashing or obvious
 errors.
 
 So what can be the problem between the webmail site and SM and/or SM and my
 installed Flash? How is SM blocking Flash? How can I check the connection
 between my SM and my Flash?

FWIW, I have SM 2.8 on a XP SP3 and 2.1 on a Win 7 64 bit and I don't
see this problem at all when I access the webmail on ATT Yahoo.
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Re: Reminders from long dismissed calendar items

2012-04-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:02:25 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:


Since both Lightning and Seamonkey are Mozilla projects I would have hoped they
would work together, and that when a new weekly version comes out the Mozilla
parts would still play together.


Lightning, Thunderbird, and SeaMonkey are Mozilla projects. Lightning
has half a developer (or one part time developer - when he's not
studying for his exams). Since Lightning is severely limited in
resources, Lightning is focusing on Thunderbird compatibility since
there are far more TB users using Lightning than SM users using
Lightning. In addition several Thunderbird developers are helping out on
the Lightning/Thunderbird integration issues.

On the SeaMonkey side of things I've been working on:

Bug 719031 - [Meta] SeaMonkey issues from Lightning Bug 316916 (Task
Quick Filter bar) and bug 709572 (Calendar and Task toolbar).

Bug 709616 - Adapt Seamonkey to Lightning tabs on top changes.
Bug 719034 - Support CTRL-SHIFT-K as the Lighting Task Quick Filter hotkey.
Bug 719050 - Lightning aero #button-delete style makes the SeaMonkey
Mail delete button image disappear.
Bug 721327 - Implement Tabs Toolbar for Thunderbird and Lightning
Compatibility.
Bug 721330 - Make Customizing Lightning Toolbars work in SeaMonkey.
Bug 731264 - Support with multiple toolboxes in MailNews due to Lighting
Calendar and Task Tabs.

*However* I'm just one person and I can't do this all by myself. I've
other bugs to fix as well. And I'm doing this all unpaid and in my free
time. It would be nice if I got a bit more help from people in getting
Lightning/SeaMonkey integration problems fixed, and a bit less whinging
from arm-chair critics.


I'm not unaware of lack of time issues. :-(

And I don't know what your priorities are, but ours were always to fix broken 
things before working on new features, if only for sanity's sake, since the new 
features need support as well. I haven't looked at the code, I would hope the 
alerts are kept as a queue in memory, and that not generating alerts for overdue 
entries and a test in DISMISS code to not try updating read-only calendars would 
fix it. Having no alerts from the shared calendar is probably an issue in Tbird 
as well, but perhaps not.


Anyway, the bug is closed, I won't bother with it any more, and maybe SM doesn't 
hang in Windows the way it does in Linux.



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Re: Getting password list for backup

2012-04-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

George Carden wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

I am doing some work for an agency which has a requirement that they
will have a recent copy of all passwords stored on any computer
accessing their site. Previously I was able to use an HTML file which
did the job, it doesn't work with recent SM versions.


[...snip...]


I use the technique on this page...Be sure to follow the instructions at the
bottom for it to work.

http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/Firefox_Passwords_Info.html


Thanks for the suggestion, will try it.

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Re: Getting password list for backup

2012-04-03 Thread Bill Davidsen

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 02/04/2012 02:00, Bill Davidsen told the world:

I am doing some work for an agency which has a requirement that they will have a
recent copy of all passwords stored on any computer accessing their site.


Unfortunately I don't have a technical solution for you, but...

They are requiring you to surrender ALL passwords that you save on your
computer, even ones for totally unrelated
purposes/websites/services/banks, just because you *accessed their web
site*? That's whack, man!


Their computer.


Personally, I would go the route of not saving ANY password on the
computer. That way, you fulfill their absurd requirement without
actually surrendering any password. It's a drag, having to type all
passwords by hand, but still better than surrendering your personal
passwords to a third party.


There are no personal passwords, and I'm not just accessing their web site, I'm 
doing stuff for them. Using a computer used for nothing else, running Linux, 
accessing no public anything (the VPN only lets me talk to them).


To lessen the drudgery, I would set up a LastPass account to handle all
the low-security passwords (forums and such). Since those passwords are
stored in the cloud, they should be technically exempt from that
requirement too. But I wouldn't trust LastPass with IMPORTANT passwords,
like for banking -- but then, I don't save those in Seamonkey either.
Hell, I don't even trust Keepass with those, and that's stored in a
local file using allegedly high-security encryption.


I will keep no other copies of passwords, access codes, or any similar material, 
except on the encrypted disk.


Another possibility is having a copy of Portable
Seamonkey/Firefox/Opera/Chrome on a USB drive, and only saving passwords
on THAT copy -- again, technically not saved on the computer.


For which I could go to prison. I do _not_ try to think about beating the rules.

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No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread chicagofan
Am I the only one who has received NO messages in this group since March 
26th?


I'm wondering if it's eternal-september.org, OR if it's because 
yesterday I unchecked the hardware acceleration option, after reading 
elsewhere about Chris' site and comments there.  Has anything changed 
about the Mozilla support server?

bj



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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
chicagofan wrote:

 Am I the only one who has received NO messages in this group since March
 26th?

Perhaps you are. There's been dozens of posts in this group since the 
26th.

 I'm wondering if it's eternal-september.org, OR if it's because
 yesterday I unchecked the hardware acceleration option, after reading
 elsewhere about Chris' site and comments there.  Has anything changed
 about the Mozilla support server?

It isn't eternal-september, because that news server is not involved with 
mozilla groups at all. Mozilla newsgroups operate via giganews in a 
private sort of way.

Maybe it is your anti-virus application getting in the way? Why are you 
scanning outgoing news (and probably email) posts?
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread chicagofan

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


Am I the only one who has received NO messages in this group since March
26th?


Perhaps you are. There's been dozens of posts in this group since the
26th.


I'm wondering if it's eternal-september.org, OR if it's because
yesterday I unchecked the hardware acceleration option, after reading
elsewhere about Chris' site and comments there.  Has anything changed
about the Mozilla support server?


It isn't eternal-september, because that news server is not involved with
mozilla groups at all. Mozilla newsgroups operate via giganews in a
private sort of way.

Maybe it is your anti-virus application getting in the way? Why are you
scanning outgoing news (and probably email) posts?
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm



Mea culpa!  Eternal-September is my other news server and I had a brain 
lapse... forgot this one group is not on that server.


It's not an AV problem, and Avast is on default settings, except for 
timing of updates.  The only recent change, is the one mentioned.  I 
turned off acceleration, because I read other people were having 
problems with it... and VOILA... SM support group came back.  :)


Coincidence?
bj

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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
chicagofan wrote:

 It's not an AV problem, and Avast is on default settings, except for
 timing of updates.  The only recent change, is the one mentioned.  I
 turned off acceleration, because I read other people were having
 problems with it... and VOILA... SM support group came back.

Still ... there's no need to scan in/outgoing messages. There is the real 
chance that such scanning can corrupt your mailboxes. I don't know why 
acceleration would keep you from receiving posts for a week, in only 
one newsgroup.

 Coincidence?

When exactly did you turn it ON?

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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread chicagofan

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


It's not an AV problem, and Avast is on default settings, except for
timing of updates.  The only recent change, is the one mentioned.  I
turned off acceleration, because I read other people were having
problems with it... and VOILA... SM support group came back.


Still ... there's no need to scan in/outgoing messages. There is the real
chance that such scanning can corrupt your mailboxes.


I'll check their options. although I don't think it has anything to 
do with this.  :)




 I don't know why
acceleration would keep you from receiving posts for a week, in only
one newsgroup.


Neither do I.   I just read about other people having problems with it 
yesterday,

and decided to check my settings and change them, if it was on.



Coincidence?


When exactly did you turn it ON?



It was on when I downloaded SM 2.8 several weeks ago.  I don't remember 
if it was on in 2.72 previously.

bj




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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
chicagofan wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 chicagofan wrote:
 Coincidence?

 When exactly did you turn it ON?

 It was on when I downloaded SM 2.8 several weeks ago.  I don't remember
 if it was on in 2.72 previously.

So, it's been ON since several weeks ago, but you only stopped receiving 
posts in this group on March 26th. Then likely the acceleration was not 
the issue.

There could be a myriad of reasons why it failed, for a few days - and 
the most likely seems to me to be a discontinuing of accessing the group, 
for some reason or another. Perhaps an errant Mark All Read or 
something.

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problems with AM-Deadlinks

2012-04-03 Thread Smiles

good day

I have used this program for years to find dead links

it works but does not remove selected bookmarks from browser now I am 
using Win7 and SeaMonkey 2.0.3


AM Deadlink 4.4

any comments

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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread chicagofan

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Coincidence?


When exactly did you turn it ON?


It was on when I downloaded SM 2.8 several weeks ago.  I don't remember
if it was on in 2.72 previously.


So, it's been ON since several weeks ago, but you only stopped receiving
posts in this group on March 26th. Then likely the acceleration was not
the issue.


All I know is after turning it off, I could see messages here again.  :)



There could be a myriad of reasons why it failed, for a few days - and
the most likely seems to me to be a discontinuing of accessing the group,
for some reason or another. Perhaps an errant Mark All Read or
something.


I don't remember the problems other people were having, or at what 
sites, but something I read at DSL reports after the announcement about 
Chris' site being updated and available made me decide to uncheck 
acceleration yesterday.


Maybe I was blacklisted?   :)
bj



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Re: No messages since March 26th... until today April 3rd?

2012-04-03 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
chicagofan wrote:

 Maybe I was blacklisted?  :-)

There's always that!

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Resolved?: Your browser is blocking Flash error message (ATT Yahoo)

2012-04-03 Thread Jay O'Brien
Apparently ATT/Yahoo has recognized the problem and corrected it. I am no 
longer getting the error message on any of my three computers. Hopefully 
it has also been fixed for everyone else.

I wonder how someone was actually able to get ATT/Yahoo's attention?

Jay


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Your browser is blocking Flash error message (ATT Yahoo)
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:20:46 -0700
From: Jay O'Brien jayobr...@att.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

I hope someone finds a resolution to this problem soon. I have three computers,
using different logins to ATT/Yahoo; two are XP and the third is Windows 7 64-
bit. They all receive the message quoted below that was reported by Rostyslaw.

If PrefBar or something else is needed, I'll install it, but after it is 
reported here that it is a fix that works.

Thanks!

Jay O'Brien

 Original Message 
Subject: Your browser is blocking Flash error message
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:24:52 -0400
From: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj urj...@bellsouth.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

SM 2.8  on an x64 Win7 ultimate OS

Starting several days ago when I log in to Att/Yahoo webmail I get the
following error message box:

---
Flash required for this application X
Your browser is blocking Flash. You must have Flash 9.0 or higher installed and 
unblocked to run an openmail application. You can download and install the 
latest Flash Player _here_

OK
--

where that _here_ is a link to the  Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.228
download page which reports:

 Your system: Windows 64-bit , English, Firefox
 Do you have a different operating system or browser?

 Note:The 64-bit Flash Player installer includes both a 32-bit and 64-bit 
version of Flash Player

To be on the safe side, just in case my Flash had become disconnected from SM
I downloaded and reinstalled it.
However the error message keeps coming back whenever I log in to webmail,
But if I click on the X (to close the error box) or on OK, the error box
goes away and my webmail session appears to work without crashing or obvious
errors.

So what can be the problem between the webmail site and SM and/or SM and my
installed Flash? How is SM blocking Flash? How can I check the connection
between my SM and my Flash?
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Re: SeaMonkey Help is back…with screencasts!

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-04-03 5:47 AM, Desiree wrote:

Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca  wrote in message
news:dp-dncopijhenefsnz2dnuvz_gqdn...@mozilla.org...


_What reasons could be for a blank page at seamonkey.ilias.ca_
Maybe it's because the search box uses an iframe? If you go to a page that
doesn't have a search box, likehttp://seamonkey.ilias.ca/installing/,
do you still get a blank page?


The above page is fine.  I also am not getting a blank page now at
seamonkey.ilias.ca. Your site though is very inconsistent for me. For
instance, in the column on the left, if I click on any question under FAQ
Browser, I get a screenshot that says Welcome to SeaMonkey and nothing else.
I get the same screenshot on ALL questions under Browser. Under FAQ
Profiles, I get text only answers, no screenshots. Under FAQ General, I get
a different screenshot that says Welcome to SM Mail and Newsgroups on every
question. But under Documentation, Upgrading I actually get useful
screenshots and text. I have not checked every page on your site but you get
the idea.


What you're seeing is the screencast start image. For instance, if you 
go to http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/WebFeeds, which is in the 
browser FAQ, the image you see should not be Welcome to SeaMonkey, but 
of CNN World.


There should be a play icon embedded over top of the image. If you click 
on the image, the screencast should start. Does the play icon not 
appear? If it doesn't appear, does clicking on the image still start the 
screencast?


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Re: problems with AM-Deadlinks

2012-04-03 Thread Ken

Smiles wrote:

good day

I have used this program for years to find dead links

it works but does not remove selected bookmarks from browser now I am
using Win7 and SeaMonkey 2.0.3

AM Deadlink 4.4

any comments

thanks


I think the new program for checking bookmarks is chkplaces.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkplaces/
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Re: Getting password list for backup

2012-04-03 Thread Rick Merrill

NoOp wrote:

On 04/01/2012 10:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

I am doing some work for an agency which has a requirement that they will have a
recent copy of all passwords stored on any computer accessing their site.
Previously I was able to use an HTML file which did the job, it doesn't work
with recent SM versions.


Easy. If you wish to copy the SeaMonkey PW's have a look at:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571997#c23
Otherwise review the thread regarding this issue from just a few days
ago (Subject: my bad, my bad)



This isn't a discussion of whether that's a good idea, it's a policy
requirement, and not worth quitting over, since I got a letter from the legal
department saying I had told them it was a bad idea, and I'm not on the hook if
there's a compromise.


That's the scariest policy that I've ever heard. Don't know what the
agency is (a phishing agency? - certainly can't be a government
agency), but I'd strongly suggest hiring a lawyer yourself
contesting the issue. If you have a Facebook account, an ISP account
(you are Verizon), etc., you are most likely in violation of their TOS
by releasing your passwords to a third party, and may be dropped
completely[1].

If you actually plan to give these people *all* of your passwords, then
I hope you are prepared to turn over up your /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow,
all ssh keys, pam keys, vnc password, root password, secure logs (and of
course the system passwords so they can access those as well, TrueCrypt
passwords, ecryptfs passwords, etc., etc. You might just as well drop
your drawers and let them have at it.

Were I you, I'd ask them to provide me with a machine that will be used
*solely* for accessing their site/data/whatever  tell them to either
take a flying leap regarding the other, or face a lawsuit. I'm pretty
sure that the EFF might be interested in your 'situation'.



It will be done, the question is if there is a way to do it easily and get it on
dead trees.

Oh, and a way to conveniently move a limited number from one machine to another
would be a time saver, as well. If there is such a thing.


So you'll be giving them the passwords on the other machine as well?

Either way... good luck.

[1] Simple example for you:
http://www.verizon.net/policies/vzcom/tos_popup.asp
[MANAGEMENT OF YOUR DATA AND COMPUTER. - Your Responsibilities Regarding
Security.]


THe OP has offered a clarification that the passwords
are for access TO (and from)the website in question.


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Problem with Seamonkey 2.8

2012-04-03 Thread vsethi
Unless I'm getting a bogus error message, Seamonkey 2.8 won't work on
my Slackware 12 system.  I'm getting a message that gcc 4.2.0 is required,
but I have gcc 4.1.2 installed.  Is it correct that Seamonkey 2.8 for
Linux requires gcc 4.2?  If so, what is the most recent version of
Seamonkey that will work with gcc 4.1.2 (and where is it on the seamonkey
site)?

Thanks.

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Re: Getting password list for backup

2012-04-03 Thread Rufus

Rick Merrill wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 04/01/2012 10:00 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

I am doing some work for an agency which has a requirement that they
will have a
recent copy of all passwords stored on any computer accessing their
site.
Previously I was able to use an HTML file which did the job, it
doesn't work
with recent SM versions.


Easy. If you wish to copy the SeaMonkey PW's have a look at:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571997#c23
Otherwise review the thread regarding this issue from just a few days
ago (Subject: my bad, my bad)



This isn't a discussion of whether that's a good idea, it's a policy
requirement, and not worth quitting over, since I got a letter from
the legal
department saying I had told them it was a bad idea, and I'm not on
the hook if
there's a compromise.


That's the scariest policy that I've ever heard. Don't know what the
agency is (a phishing agency? - certainly can't be a government
agency), but I'd strongly suggest hiring a lawyer yourself
contesting the issue. If you have a Facebook account, an ISP account
(you are Verizon), etc., you are most likely in violation of their TOS
by releasing your passwords to a third party, and may be dropped
completely[1].

If you actually plan to give these people *all* of your passwords, then
I hope you are prepared to turn over up your /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow,
all ssh keys, pam keys, vnc password, root password, secure logs (and of
course the system passwords so they can access those as well, TrueCrypt
passwords, ecryptfs passwords, etc., etc. You might just as well drop
your drawers and let them have at it.

Were I you, I'd ask them to provide me with a machine that will be used
*solely* for accessing their site/data/whatever tell them to either
take a flying leap regarding the other, or face a lawsuit. I'm pretty
sure that the EFF might be interested in your 'situation'.



It will be done, the question is if there is a way to do it easily
and get it on
dead trees.

Oh, and a way to conveniently move a limited number from one machine
to another
would be a time saver, as well. If there is such a thing.


So you'll be giving them the passwords on the other machine as well?

Either way... good luck.

[1] Simple example for you:
http://www.verizon.net/policies/vzcom/tos_popup.asp
[MANAGEMENT OF YOUR DATA AND COMPUTER. - Your Responsibilities Regarding
Security.]


THe OP has offered a clarification that the passwords
are for access TO (and from)the website in question.




...then the site admin should be perfectly able to manage them himself. 
 Probably via a cookie, like everyone else.


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Re: Resolved?: Your browser is blocking Flash error message (ATT Yahoo)

2012-04-03 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Jay O'Brien wrote:
 Apparently ATT/Yahoo has recognized the problem and corrected it. I am no 
 longer getting the error message on any of my three computers. Hopefully 
 it has also been fixed for everyone else.
 
 I wonder how someone was actually able to get ATT/Yahoo's attention?
 
 Jay
 

You can try here and may get a response from an ATT agent

http://forums.att.com/t5/Email-Internet-Security/Ongoing-problems-with-AT-amp-T-Yahoo-email/td-p/2890403
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Thanks, SM Team.

2012-04-03 Thread Rufus
Looks like you've solved one of my OS X interface bugs and a Win one 
also in the process.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735946

Now all I need do is standby and wait!

...and if you could fix this one, I'd be *ever* so greatfull -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724296

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Re: Resolved?: Your browser is blocking Flash error message (ATT Yahoo)

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-04-03 2:07 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote:

Apparently ATT/Yahoo has recognized the problem and corrected it. I am no
longer getting the error message on any of my three computers. Hopefully
it has also been fixed for everyone else.

I wonder how someone was actually able to get ATT/Yahoo's attention?


Yahoo is currently rolling out a fix of the issue. :)

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