Re: E-Mail problem

2012-04-15 Thread Jens Hatlak

Jim P wrote:

I have Win 7, SM 2.9. In the past week I have had a problem with
messages in that I can read them when I receive them. Then when I go
back to them they have reverted to the coding for the message.


SM 2.9 is still in beta. There was a problem with SM 2.9b2 (maybe also 
2.9b1, didn't check) where compacting messages (automatically or 
manually) led to message corruption. This issue, which I was hit by 
myself, has been fixed in SM 2.9b3 which has just been released. Of 
course it's very unfortunate that an issue as serious as this one made 
it to the Beta channel, but at least it was caught before release.


According to the below comment (which is from one of the core MailNews 
developers), the only way to fix it is to repair affected folders 
manually, which I don't recommend to average users since it can lead to 
even more corruption, so I won't explain it further here (however, 
that's what I'll do to repair my folders). Your only other options are 
accessing your backups (if you have some) or deleting faulty messages.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730947#c97
(Please don't make that bug even longer; if you have further questions, 
ask them here please.)


HTH

Jens

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Re: Profile Problems

2012-04-15 Thread Daniel
Frog, you may have noted posts from Paul and NoOp complaining about us 
(you and me) not trimming our posts, and quoting and quoting and quoting 
old stuff. To make them (and, to an extent, me) happy,I have snipped all 
the previous information here in my reply, but, if we need to refer to 
it, it is still on the newsgroup.


Anyway

In your new profile, you have a file 
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox Right??


What we want to do is collect all the other inbox's (from the other 
profiles) at this same level, but with different names, i.e. Inbox1, 
Inbox2, etc. Do a Windows search (Find Files/Folders) for Inbox, and, if 
the locations shown indicates the file is in any of your old profiles, 
change the names to Inbox1, Inbox2, etc.


Then move these files to the same location as your 
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox so that you will 
end up with:-


E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox1
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox2, etc,

and when you re-start SeaMonkey, using your FrogBarbara profile, you 
should see all these inbox's listed. You can then move e-mails from the 
old files into the new, and, if you now want to delete the 
empty/un-needed files then close SeaMonkey and delete the 
empty/un-needed files in your Windows My Computer or what-ever.


Now do a similar process for your Sent files!. And for the Drafts files, 
if you use Drafts at all.


Once you have collected all your e-mails in one location, you can, if 
you wish, delete all the other profiles if you wish.


As for the Cache files, when you visit a website, the files that make up 
the website are downloaded into the cache and then displayed on your 
monitor. You can empty cache at any time! 
Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Cache and Clear Cache.


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Re: Adjusting filters automatically

2012-04-15 Thread Marisa Ciceran

I have the same problem, only it keeps getting worse.

Whereas a few days ago most of the redirections went changed to a single 
unrelated folder, as of this morning some emails are now redirected to 
the Junk folder instead. I have little choice but to turn off the 
message filters altogether. Either way, it is causing major problems here.


MC

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

It turns out it was worse than I thought: EVERY single ONE of the more
than 50 filters I have for that account has been redirected to that
single folder! What a major PITA!


I guess you're seeing bug 735940. TB spun a 11.0.1 release including a 
fix for that, we didn't (and AFAIK we're not planning to do so, but 
would probably include it if we had to do an oilspill release with 
security fixes for 2.8). It'll be fixed in 2.9, though.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735940#c39

HTH

Jens


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Re: SeaMonkey Jumps when I click.

2012-04-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
DoctorBill wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Running Windows XP with SeaMonkey 2.7 Browser.

 Often, when in a web site, when I go to click on a link, the screen
 JUMPS UP as I click - resulting in the click going to some other link
 just below the link I wanted to click on. Oddest thing !
 What is the cause of this behavior ?
 Something I can change in a menu ?

 Can you provide a URL to a page where this happens? Be sure to point
 out what link you're trying to click on. If sounds most likely to me to
 be something to do with JavaScript on the page. Without an example, it
 is difficult to make guesses.

 Is ab...@hotmail.com your real email address? If not, you are actually
 abusing hotmail and you should fix that. Thanks for your consideration.

 It happens most often when I use Google Images to look at some Image.
 
 Example:
 https://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isch%3A1%2Cisz%
3Alsa=1q=Lathe
+Faceplateaq=faqi=g1aql=foq=gs_rfai=biw=1608bih=731sei=UWZiT5_eNaWziQKz8LjcCAtbm=isch#hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isz:ltbm=ischsa=1q=dahliaoq=daliahaaq=0sSaqi=g-
sS2g-
msS1aql=gs_l=img.1.0.0i10i24l2j0i5i10i24.8277l10687l5l13184l7l7l0l0l0l1l1221l4051l1j1j5-1j1j2l6l0.llsin.pbx=1fp=1biw=1608bih=731bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbcad=b
 
 Page 2 - fifth image to the right.

There is a lot of JavaScript in that Google page, as I suspected. That's 
what causing what you see (I don't), and maybe someone with much time 
will be able to analyze it.

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Constant hour-glass with SM 2.8

2012-04-15 Thread Ray_Net

All is going well after upgrade from SM 2.7.2 to 2.8 However...

I see constantly on certain SM window an hour-glass as the mouse pointer.
But there is nothing to wait about - the mouse pointer must be a normal 
pointer.


What could be done to solve this visual annoying stuff ?
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Re: Constant hour-glass with SM 2.8

2012-04-15 Thread Rob Lindauer

Ray_Net wrote:

All is going well after upgrade from SM 2.7.2 to 2.8 However...

I see constantly on certain SM window an hour-glass as the mouse pointer.
But there is nothing to wait about - the mouse pointer must be a normal
pointer.

What could be done to solve this visual annoying stuff ?


In 2.8, I get the constant working pointer (the one with theclock-like 
symbol) in mail-news, when I hover over the folder pane or over the list 
of messages.


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Re: SeaMonkey Jumps when I click.

2012-04-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/15/12 6:44 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:

 Running Windows XP with SeaMonkey 2.7 Browser.

 Often, when in a web site, when I go to click on a link, the screen
 JUMPS UP as I click - resulting in the click going to some other link
 just below the link I wanted to click on.
 Oddest thing !
 What is the cause of this behavior ?
 Something I can change in a menu ?

 Can you provide a URL to a page where this happens? Be sure to point out
 what link you're trying to click on. If sounds most likely to me to be
 something to do with JavaScript on the page. Without an example, it is
 difficult to make guesses.


 Is ab...@hotmail.com your real email address? If not, you are actually
 abusing hotmail and you should fix that. Thanks for your consideration.

 
 It happens most often when I use Google Images to look at some Image.
 
 Example:
 https://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isch%3A1%2Cisz%3Alsa=1q=Lathe+Faceplateaq=faqi=g1aql=foq=gs_rfai=biw=1608bih=731sei=UWZiT5_eNaWziQKz8LjcCAtbm=isch#hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isz:ltbm=ischsa=1q=dahliaoq=daliahaaq=0sSaqi=g-sS2g-msS1aql=gs_l=img.1.0.0i10i24l2j0i5i10i24.8277l10687l5l13184l7l7l0l0l0l1l1221l4051l1j1j5-1j1j2l6l0.llsin.pbx=1fp=1biw=1608bih=731bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbcad=b
 
 Page 2 - fifth image to the right.
 
 DoctorBill
 

When I view it, there are only four images in a row and only five rows,
with one extra image in the first position of a sixth row.  Thus, fifth
image to the right does not seem to make sense.

The links are the images.  They do not jump.

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Re: Constant hour-glass with SM 2.8

2012-04-15 Thread Ray_Net

Rob Lindauer wrote, On 15/04/2012 16:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

All is going well after upgrade from SM 2.7.2 to 2.8 However...

I see constantly on certain SM window an hour-glass as the mouse 
pointer.

But there is nothing to wait about - the mouse pointer must be a normal
pointer.

What could be done to solve this visual annoying stuff ?


In 2.8, I get the constant working pointer (the one with 
theclock-like symbol) in mail-news, when I hover over the folder pane 
or over the list of messages.


Me too, that's my problem ... however . i finally got the normal 
pointer  who knows what happened and what happens now ...

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Re: E-Mail problem

2012-04-15 Thread Jim P

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Jim P wrote:

I have Win 7, SM 2.9. In the past week I have had a problem with
messages in that I can read them when I receive them. Then when I go
back to them they have reverted to the coding for the message.


SM 2.9 is still in beta. There was a problem with SM 2.9b2 (maybe also
2.9b1, didn't check) where compacting messages (automatically or
manually) led to message corruption. This issue, which I was hit by
myself, has been fixed in SM 2.9b3 which has just been released. Of
course it's very unfortunate that an issue as serious as this one made
it to the Beta channel, but at least it was caught before release.

According to the below comment (which is from one of the core MailNews
developers), the only way to fix it is to repair affected folders
manually, which I don't recommend to average users since it can lead to
even more corruption, so I won't explain it further here (however,
that's what I'll do to repair my folders). Your only other options are
accessing your backups (if you have some) or deleting faulty messages.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730947#c97
(Please don't make that bug even longer; if you have further questions,
ask them here please.)

HTH

Jens

Thanks for the info.  I thought it might have been the problem, it's the 
first I've had with SM in a long, long time.  I've been a user since the 
Netscape days.  I've already updated to the last release SM 2.9b3. Do I 
need to do anything more, like clean out the Inbox?

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Re: Constant hour-glass with SM 2.8

2012-04-15 Thread flyguy

On 4/15/2012 7:43 AM, Rob Lindauer wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

All is going well after upgrade from SM 2.7.2 to 2.8 However...

I see constantly on certain SM window an hour-glass as the mouse pointer.
But there is nothing to wait about - the mouse pointer must be a normal
pointer.

What could be done to solve this visual annoying stuff ?


In 2.8, I get the constant working pointer (the one with theclock-like
symbol) in mail-news, when I hover over the folder pane or over the list
of messages.


I sometimes get that, but I also get a pulsing pointer, where the 
hourglass flashes for a fraction of a second, every second. This 
behavior is associated with New York Times site (www.nytimes.com) and 
possibly others. The status reads Stopped at the bottom. Not all pages 
of the NYT do this, and on those pages, the status reads Done.


I haven't noticed a connection between the steady pointer with 
hour-glass on the email window and the pulsing pointer/hourglass on the 
browser window. It doesn't happen every day.


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Re: Constant hour-glass with SM 2.8

2012-04-15 Thread Zanqeutil

Ray_Net schreef:

All is going well after upgrade from SM 2.7.2 to 2.8 However...

I see constantly on certain SM window an hour-glass as the mouse pointer.
But there is nothing to wait about - the mouse pointer must be a normal
pointer.

What could be done to solve this visual annoying stuff ?


Yes, that's a bug in SM 2.8
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414

Quick solution disable the hourglass cursor in SM 2.8

About:config

ui.use_activity_cursor true
(toggle to false)
ui.use_activity_cursor false

Sea also thread: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor 15-3-2012

Regards,

Zanqeutil
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Re: Constant hour-glass with SM 2.8

2012-04-15 Thread George Carden

Zanqeutil wrote:

Ray_Net schreef:

All is going well after upgrade from SM 2.7.2 to 2.8 However...

I see constantly on certain SM window an hour-glass as the mouse pointer.
But there is nothing to wait about - the mouse pointer must be a normal
pointer.

What could be done to solve this visual annoying stuff ?


Yes, that's a bug in SM 2.8
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414

Quick solution disable the hourglass cursor in SM 2.8

About:config

ui.use_activity_cursor true
(toggle to false)
ui.use_activity_cursor false

Sea also thread: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor 15-3-2012

Regards,

Zanqeutil


This happens with me, too.  I just click Stop, and it stops.
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Re: Profile Problems

2012-04-15 Thread Frog

Daniel wrote:

Frog, you may have noted posts from Paul and NoOp complaining about us
(you and me) not trimming our posts, and quoting and quoting and quoting
old stuff. To make them (and, to an extent, me) happy,I have snipped all
the previous information here in my reply, but, if we need to refer to
it, it is still on the newsgroup.



Do you know where I might learn more about the correct procedures for 
timing messages?  I notice that your messages do show the message trail 
at the top your messages...I'm not sure whether this happens by your 
typing in that information or whether is happens thru some automated 
process.  I do understand that I must make the decision about what 
should be timed...but then what?




Anyway

In your new profile, you have a file
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox Right??



Yes, under E:\SeaMonkeyProfile (sub-folder Mail) there is a sub-folder 
to Mail titled incoming.verizon.net.




What we want to do is collect all the other inbox's (from the other
profiles) at this same level, but with different names, i.e. Inbox1,
Inbox2, etc. Do a Windows search (Find Files/Folders) for Inbox, and, if
the locations shown indicates the file is in any of your old profiles,
change the names to Inbox1, Inbox2, etc.

Then move these files to the same location as your
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox so that you will
end up with:-

E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox1
E:\(something)\FrogBarbara\incoming.verizon.net\Inbox2, etc,

and when you re-start SeaMonkey, using your FrogBarbara profile, you
should see all these inbox's listed. You can then move e-mails from the
old files into the new, and, if you now want to delete the
empty/un-needed files then close SeaMonkey and delete the
empty/un-needed files in your Windows My Computer or what-ever.

Now do a similar process for your Sent files!. And for the Drafts files,
if you use Drafts at all.



I now have everything I want to salvage in the E:\SeaMonkeyProfile folder.



Once you have collected all your e-mails in one location, you can, if
you wish, delete all the other profiles if you wish.

As for the Cache files, when you visit a website, the files that make up
the website are downloaded into the cache and then displayed on your
monitor. You can empty cache at any time!


I want to make sure of what I am doing at this point, so here are my 
questions.  I conclude, based on your instructions above, that the 
C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application Data\Mozilla folder has 
nothing to do with 2.8---is that correct?  As I noted in my last 
message, one SeaMonkey folder does have a sub-folder Profiles that that 
includes a sub-folder titled 7pq1gq46.FrogBarbara.  I know that I have 
had problems when it do anything to any of the SeaMonkey folders under 
Mozilla...that is the reason for this question.  Is it okay to delete 
all of the SeaMonkey folders under Mozilla?




Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Cache and Clear Cache.


I understand.





Thanks again for sticking with me on this subject---I would be lost 
without help like you have been providing to me.


Frog
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Re: SeaMonkey Jumps when I click.

2012-04-15 Thread DoctorBill

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/15/12 6:44 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


Running Windows XP with SeaMonkey 2.7 Browser.

Often, when in a web site, when I go to click on a link, the screen
JUMPS UP as I click - resulting in the click going to some other link
just below the link I wanted to click on.
Oddest thing !
What is the cause of this behavior ?
Something I can change in a menu ?


Can you provide a URL to a page where this happens? Be sure to point out
what link you're trying to click on. If sounds most likely to me to be
something to do with JavaScript on the page. Without an example, it is
difficult to make guesses.


Is ab...@hotmail.com your real email address? If not, you are actually
abusing hotmail and you should fix that. Thanks for your consideration.



It happens most often when I use Google Images to look at some Image.

Example:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isch%3A1%2Cisz%3Alsa=1q=Lathe+Faceplateaq=faqi=g1aql=foq=gs_rfai=biw=1608bih=731sei=UWZiT5_eNaWziQKz8LjcCAtbm=isch#hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isz:ltbm=ischsa=1q=dahliaoq=daliahaaq=0sSaqi=g-sS2g-msS1aql=gs_l=img.1.0.0i10i24l2j0i5i10i24.8277l10687l5l13184l7l7l0l0l0l1l1221l4051l1j1j5-1j1j2l6l0.llsin.pbx=1fp=1biw=1608bih=731bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbcad=b

Page 2 - fifth image to the right.

DoctorBill



When I view it, there are only four images in a row and only five rows,
with one extra image in the first position of a sixth row.  Thus, fifth
image to the right does not seem to make sense.

The links are the images.  They do not jump.



I have a wide screen (19) Samsung SyncMaster 941BW screen.

Would that be part of the problem ?

I downloaded the most recent JAVA a while ago, also.

DoctorBill

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Re: Adjusting filters automatically - more data

2012-04-15 Thread Jay O'Brien
More, perhaps useful data for whomever will do a fix to this problem.

I had another occurrence of filters changing, and afterwards I looked at the 
msgFilterRules.dat file.

The msgFilterRules.dat file is unchanged up to a location in the file. After 
that location, every filter in the file is pointed to the same message folder, 
overwriting previously correct data. The first time this happened to me, the 
corruption started only a few filters into the file; the second time only about 
half of the msgFilterRules.dat file was affected.

Jay O'Brien


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Adjusting filters automatically
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:30 -0700
From: Jay O'Brien jayobr...@att.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

I experienced the same problem; all of my more than 250 message filters were 
changed (I don't know what caused it) to point to the same mail folder. 
Fortunately I do a synchronization with another computer every night, using 
Goodsync, so I was able to retrieve yesterday's copy of msgFilterRules.dat and 
get back to normal. Perhaps SM could store several iterations of this file and 
perhaps a selection to let the user revert to an old copy? Until this is fixed, 
I will save a copy of msgFilterRules.dat daily to be on the safe side.

Jay O'Brien

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Adjusting filters automatically
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:26:29 +0200
From: Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 It turns out it was worse than I thought: EVERY single ONE of the more
 than 50 filters I have for that account has been redirected to that
 single folder! What a major PITA!

I guess you're seeing bug 735940. TB spun a 11.0.1 release including a 
fix for that, we didn't (and AFAIK we're not planning to do so, but 
would probably include it if we had to do an oilspill release with 
security fixes for 2.8). It'll be fixed in 2.9, though.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735940#c39

HTH

Jens

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Re: SeaMonkey Jumps when I click.

2012-04-15 Thread Michael Gordon

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/15/12 12:06 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/15/12 6:44 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


Running Windows XP with SeaMonkey 2.7 Browser.

Often, when in a web site, when I go to click on a link, the screen
JUMPS UP as I click - resulting in the click going to some other link
just below the link I wanted to click on.
Oddest thing !
What is the cause of this behavior ?
Something I can change in a menu ?


Can you provide a URL to a page where this happens? Be sure to point out
what link you're trying to click on. If sounds most likely to me to be
something to do with JavaScript on the page. Without an example, it is
difficult to make guesses.


Is ab...@hotmail.com your real email address? If not, you are actually
abusing hotmail and you should fix that. Thanks for your consideration.



It happens most often when I use Google Images to look at some Image.

Example:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isch%3A1%2Cisz%3Alsa=1q=Lathe+Faceplateaq=faqi=g1aql=foq=gs_rfai=biw=1608bih=731sei=UWZiT5_eNaWziQKz8LjcCAtbm=isch#hl=ensafe=offgbv=2tbs=isz:ltbm=ischsa=1q=dahliaoq=daliahaaq=0sSaqi=g-sS2g-msS1aql=gs_l=img.1.0.0i10i24l2j0i5i10i24.8277l10687l5l13184l7l7l0l0l0l1l1221l4051l1j1j5-1j1j2l6l0.llsin.pbx=1fp=1biw=1608bih=731bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbcad=b

Page 2 - fifth image to the right.

DoctorBill



When I view it, there are only four images in a row and only five rows,
with one extra image in the first position of a sixth row.  Thus, fifth
image to the right does not seem to make sense.

The links are the images.  They do not jump.



I have a wide screen (19) Samsung SyncMaster 941BW screen.

Would that be part of the problem ?

I downloaded the most recent JAVA a while ago, also.

DoctorBill



It might indeed be a monitor issue.  I have an old ViewSonic CRT 15
monitor set for 800x600.

It is not likely a problem with Java.  I did not see your problem while
using the latest version of Java (Java J2SE RTE 6 update 31).



It is none of the above.  It is a JavaScript MouseOver trick.  When the 
mouse hovers over the image it triggers a larger (enlarged) image of the 
thumbnail.


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