seamonkey mail programm

[berge]

Guten Tag,

beim Öffnen des E-mail-Programms erscheint trotz nicht geöffneten E-
mail-account-Unterordnern das "-" anstatt  "+" im quadratischen
Kästchen. Erst beim einfachen Klick auf das Kästchen erscheint das
"+". Und beim nächsten Klick darauf werden die Unterordner sichtbar.
Schließt man das Programm bei sichtbaren Unterordnern und öffnet es
erneut, sind nicht mehr wie früher sofort die Unterordner sichtbar,
sondern wieder das "-" im Kästchen.

Dieser Fehler tritt nur in dieser Art auf, wenn nicht gleichzeitig der
Browser geöffnet ist - merkwürdig.

Ich verwende unter Windows XP SP3  die Version 2.9

MfG
Berge

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Re: Message Appearance

[Daniel]

chicagofan wrote:




What drives me crazy is how the size of my text will change
mid-sentence, in almost every message I compose in mail... repeatedly.
bj


Cannot say I've ever seen this happen, Chicagofan!!

And did you mean this to be a new thread??



Sorry, no... just an additional comment to John's about changing fonts
in 2.8. :)

I have given up on getting any help with my SM problems, because I use
HTML in my personal mail.
bj



Yeah, I cannot see much reason for HTML in e-mails (or newsgroups 
either, really). A bit of floweriness in a sigfile, maybe, but 
otherwise.


Sorry.

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Re: Message Appearance

[Desiree]

"Daniel"  wrote in message 
news:soydnwiv3njdhg_snz2dnuvz_qcdn...@mozilla.org...
> chicagofan wrote:
>
> 
>
 What drives me crazy is how the size of my text will change
 mid-sentence, in almost every message I compose in mail... repeatedly.
 bj
>>>
>>> Cannot say I've ever seen this happen, Chicagofan!!
>>>
>>> And did you mean this to be a new thread??
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, no... just an additional comment to John's about changing fonts
>> in 2.8. :)
>>
>> I have given up on getting any help with my SM problems, because I use
>> HTML in my personal mail.
>> bj
>>
>
> Yeah, I cannot see much reason for HTML in e-mails (or newsgroups either, 
> really). A bit of floweriness in a sigfile, maybe, but otherwise.
>
> Sorry.
>
> -- 
> Daniel

Yeah, I don't use HTML in email but these days you are forced to read almost 
any newsletter from any business in HTML in your browser instead of in plain 
text in the email client. I hate that.  If you try to read newsletters, 
subscribed email notifications, etc. in plain text now all you see is a 
series of links...no text and even if you switch to HTML you still see 
nothing but links. You have to read it in a browser. That's really crappy. 
Used to you could read all these in plain text or HTML in the email client. 


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Re: Message Appearance

[Ed Mullen]

Desiree wrote:

"Daniel"  wrote in message
news:soydnwiv3njdhg_snz2dnuvz_qcdn...@mozilla.org...

chicagofan wrote:




What drives me crazy is how the size of my text will change
mid-sentence, in almost every message I compose in mail... repeatedly.
bj


Cannot say I've ever seen this happen, Chicagofan!!

And did you mean this to be a new thread??



Sorry, no... just an additional comment to John's about changing fonts
in 2.8. :)

I have given up on getting any help with my SM problems, because I use
HTML in my personal mail.
bj



Yeah, I cannot see much reason for HTML in e-mails (or newsgroups either,
really). A bit of floweriness in a sigfile, maybe, but otherwise.

Sorry.

--
Daniel


Yeah, I don't use HTML in email but these days you are forced to read almost
any newsletter from any business in HTML in your browser instead of in plain
text in the email client. I hate that.  If you try to read newsletters,
subscribed email notifications, etc. in plain text now all you see is a
series of links...no text and even if you switch to HTML you still see
nothing but links. You have to read it in a browser. That's really crappy.
Used to you could read all these in plain text or HTML in the email client.




I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in 
SeaMonkey.


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Re: Message Appearance

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in
SeaMonkey.


I often do, because I have remote images disabled to protect my privacy. 
And the trend is to track readership by using web beacons and hiding 
links behind redirects via a tracking service such as Constant Contact, 
Salsa Labs, etc.


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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[Ray_Net]

be...@highmed.de wrote, On 21/04/2012 11:05:

Guten Tag,

beim Öffnen des E-mail-Programms erscheint trotz nicht geöffneten E-
mail-account-Unterordnern das "-" anstatt  "+" im quadratischen
Kästchen. Erst beim einfachen Klick auf das Kästchen erscheint das
"+". Und beim nächsten Klick darauf werden die Unterordner sichtbar.
Schließt man das Programm bei sichtbaren Unterordnern und öffnet es
erneut, sind nicht mehr wie früher sofort die Unterordner sichtbar,
sondern wieder das "-" im Kästchen.

Dieser Fehler tritt nur in dieser Art auf, wenn nicht gleichzeitig der
Browser geöffnet ist - merkwürdig.

Ich verwende unter Windows XP SP3  die Version 2.9

MfG
Berge


Votre anglais est difficile à lire :-)
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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:


be...@highmed.de wrote, On 21/04/2012 11:05:

Guten Tag,

beim Öffnen des E-mail-Programms erscheint trotz nicht geöffneten E-
mail-account-Unterordnern das "-" anstatt "+" im quadratischen
Kästchen. Erst beim einfachen Klick auf das Kästchen erscheint das
"+". Und beim nächsten Klick darauf werden die Unterordner sichtbar.
Schließt man das Programm bei sichtbaren Unterordnern und öffnet es
erneut, sind nicht mehr wie früher sofort die Unterordner sichtbar,
sondern wieder das "-" im Kästchen.

Dieser Fehler tritt nur in dieser Art auf, wenn nicht gleichzeitig der
Browser geöffnet ist - merkwürdig.

Ich verwende unter Windows XP SP3 die Version 2.9

MfG
Berge


Votre anglais est difficile à lire :-)


Для меня тоже...

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Re: Message Appearance

[Jay Garcia]

On 21.04.2012 10:13, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Ed Mullen wrote:
> 
>> I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in
>> SeaMonkey.
> 
> I often do, because I have remote images disabled to protect my privacy.
> And the trend is to track readership by using web beacons and hiding
> links behind redirects via a tracking service such as Constant Contact,
> Salsa Labs, etc.
> 

IIRC, the only way that remote images can present a problem is by the
use of an embedded javascript routine in the image url. JS is disabled
by default in TB.

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Re: Message Appearance

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 21.04.2012 10:13, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Ed Mullen wrote:


I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in
SeaMonkey.


I often do, because I have remote images disabled to protect my privacy.
And the trend is to track readership by using web beacons and hiding
links behind redirects via a tracking service such as Constant Contact,
Salsa Labs, etc.


IIRC, the only way that remote images can present a problem is by the
use of an embedded javascript routine in the image url. JS is disabled
by default in TB.


I'm not worried about getting malware. I disable remote images, 
including web beacons and the like, so nobody knows whether or when I 
opened the message. I don't want them compiling a dossier of my tastes, 
sending custom-tailored spam, and selling the info to other spammers. 
These people are the scourge of the Internet, and I'd rather read a 
crippled message from a company I like than lift one little finger to 
help them.


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Font rendering text or html utf-8 charset

[Rinaldi J. Montessi]

Reading mail/news messages in plain text or html received in utf-8
charset, the minimum font size is ignored.  Fixed using Ctrl +(+), but
annoying.  Anyone else seeing this in recent builds/nightlies?

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Re: Only check for new mail after opening Mail & Newsgroups

[BIll Spikowski]

Rufus wrote:
> Kevin L. Hill wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:45:16 -0400, BIll Spikowski wrote:
>>
>>> My only problem occurs when I leave my office and for some reason need
>>> to leave a SM browser window open; in that case, I've closed the SM
>>> mail window because I do not want email downloaded from the server
>>> when I'm out of the office (I need to monitor it on my Blackberry or
>>> on my laptop or at home). It seems that the setting in the subject
>>> line of this thread was created for people in my exact situation, if
>>> I'm understanding it correctly. If I could make it work, I'd be even
>>> more deliriously happy with Seamonkey!
>>
>> Have you experimented with the options to "Leave the messages on the
>> server" also located in the tab for "Server Settings"?  If that box
>> is checked on
>> your office machine, then all emails will remain on the server and
>> can be
>> downloaded by your Blackberry and/or home computer.   If you check the
>> sub-option "Until I delete them", then deleting the local copy in
>> SeaMonkey,
>> will remove the email from the server.  I have not tried the option
>> "For at most
>> 'X' days" but I assume that would leave messages on the server for a
>> maximum of 'X' days.
>>
>> While this would make emails available to your Blackberry and home
>> computer, it might create other problems.  You will end up with more
>> than one
>> local copy of many emails.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Kevin
>> 
>> Kevin L. Hill
>> Long Beach, CA
>>
>>
> 
> That's what I do for multiple machines.  Works great, and I only end
> up with one local copy on each machine - SM is smart enough to
> remember what it's already downloaded and not grab a second copy on
> the same machine.  (Mac Mail.app has an option to leave messages on
> the server until they are moved from the Inbox, in addition to "until
> deleted locally" - I'd like to see this option in SM Mail...hint,
> hint...)
> 
> The only thing you need pay attention to is not to use your primary
> machine to delete messages from the server until you have retrieved
> and filed them on each machine you'd like to have a copy on.


Kevin, I also use these options, though in a slightly different way.
I want to end up with a local copy of all messages on only one machine
-- at my office where I have ample storage and excellent backup
capability. Seamonkey is great in that I can set it up on each machine
to accomplish my exact goals (monitor email from wherever I may be,
but save all of it in only one place).

The situation I was inquiring about was the only glitch in my grand
plan, which happened when I leave a SM browser window open at my
office to download some huge file overnight. Now I know this will be
OK as long as I exit all of SM first, then reopen only a browser
window. Also, when a hidden SM process is stuck running, that messes
my system up because email continues to download. But overall, I
couldn't be happier with SM mail and the flexibility it provides me,
and the great help that's available in this newsgroup!


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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[Hartmut Figge]

Paul B. Gallagher:
>Ray_Net wrote:
>> be...@highmed.de wrote, On 21/04/2012 11:05:

[...]
>>> Ich verwende unter Windows XP SP3 die Version 2.9
>>>
>>> MfG
>>> Berge
>>>
>> Votre anglais est difficile à lire :-)

Well, German is easy compared to English. :-P

>Для меня тоже...

Hm. *g*

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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut Figge:
>Paul B. Gallagher:
>>Ray_Net wrote:
>>> be...@highmed.de wrote, On 21/04/2012 11:05:

>[...]
 Ich verwende unter Windows XP SP3 die Version 2.9

 MfG
 Berge

>>> Votre anglais est difficile à lire :-)
>
>Well, German is easy compared to English. :-P
>
>>Для меня тоже...
>
>Hm. *g*

Aja, vergessen, die richtige NG ist de.comm.software.mozilla.mailnews

Hartmut


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saving email as text file

[Rick Merrill]

When ever I   File > Save As > File
the default extension is ".eml" but I would
like it to be ".txt" (as I don't use Outlook...)


Thx,

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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 21/04/2012 13:40, Hartmut Figge told the world:
> Hartmut Figge:
>> Paul B. Gallagher:
>>> Ray_Net wrote:
 be...@highmed.de wrote, On 21/04/2012 11:05:
> 
>> [...]
> Ich verwende unter Windows XP SP3 die Version 2.9
>
> MfG
> Berge
>
 Votre anglais est difficile à lire :-)
>>
>> Well, German is easy compared to English. :-P
>>
>>> Для меня тоже...
>>
>> Hm. *g*
> 
> Aja, vergessen, die richtige NG ist de.comm.software.mozilla.mailnews
> 
> Hartmut
> 
> 

É, pra mim também está difícil de entender o inglês da mensagem original.

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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[Hartmut Figge]

MCBastos:

>É, pra mim também está difícil de entender o inglês da mensagem original.

Why? Berge should ask in the appropriate German NG.

Hartmut, guessing Espanol? with leftovers of Latin


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Re: saving email as text file

[WLS]

Rick Merrill wrote:

When ever I File > Save As > File
the default extension is ".eml" but I would
like it to be ".txt" (as I don't use Outlook...)


Thx,



What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?
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Re: seamonkey mail programm

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Hartmut Figge wrote:


MCBastos:


É, pra mim também está difícil de entender o inglês da mensagem original.


Why? Berge should ask in the appropriate German NG.

Hartmut, guessing Espanol? with leftovers of Latin


I'm gonna go with Portuguese, myself. The article "o" is a dead giveaway.

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Re: Message Appearance

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Jay Garcia wrote:

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in
>>> SeaMonkey.
>> 
>> I often do, because I have remote images disabled to protect my
>> privacy. And the trend is to track readership by using web beacons and
>> hiding links behind redirects via a tracking service such as Constant
>> Contact, Salsa Labs, etc.
>
> IIRC, the only way that remote images can present a problem is by the
> use of an embedded javascript routine in the image url. JS is disabled
> by default in TB.

No, that isn't the case. All it takes is a link to a remote image with 
"parameters" added to the link. If you display remote images, you will be 
tagged; JavaScript is *not* needed. Spammers have been doing this for at 
least a decade or more. Sample:



All those random-looking codes are specific to your particular email and 
address. These are commonly called "web beacons" and the web host will 
add you to the database of people who've read the email and have a valid 
address. Expect more spam.

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Re: saving email as text file

[Ray_Net]

WLS wrote, On 21/04/2012 19:13:

Rick Merrill wrote:

When ever I File > Save As > File
the default extension is ".eml" but I would
like it to be ".txt" (as I don't use Outlook...)


Thx,



What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?
When i save it with the .txt extension double-clicking on it -> NOTEPAD 
opens it showing

Subject: 
From:
Date:
To:


BUT !!!

When i save it with the .eml extension, if i double-click on it -> SM 
opens it showing

Subject: 
From:
Date:
To:


Is this another unresolved SM bug ?
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Re: saving email as text file

[JohnW-Mpls]

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:49:52 -0400, Rick Merrill
 wrote:

>When ever I   File > Save As > File
>the default extension is ".eml" but I would
>like it to be ".txt" (as I don't use Outlook...)
>
>
>Thx,

When you see the fliename to be saved, replace the .eml with .txt.  Works
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Re: saving email as text file

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:


WLS wrote, On 21/04/2012 19:13:


What is preventing you from changing the .eml extension to .txt?

When i save it with the .txt extension double-clicking on it -> NOTEPAD
opens it showing
Subject: 
From:
Date:
To:



When I saved your message as .eml and opened it with Notepad, I saw the 
full headers and everything, as if I had hit CTRL-U.



BUT !!!

When i save it with the .eml extension, if i double-click on it -> SM
opens it showing
Subject: 
From:
Date:
To:


Is this another unresolved SM bug ?


When I opened exactly the same file with SeaMonkey, everything was 
there, properly formatted, no omissions or corruptions. So if it's a 
bug, it's peculiar to your installation (I'm using 2.8 as well).


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Re: saving email as text file

[Rick Merrill]

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:49:52 -0400, Rick Merrill
  wrote:


When ever I   File>  Save As>  File
the default extension is ".eml" but I would
like it to be ".txt" (as I don't use Outlook...)


Thx,


When you see the fliename to be saved, replace the .eml with .txt.  Works
fine for me.



Yes but - it would be "nice" to make it automatic.  I think the "eml" is
from a Microsoft standard - it should be fixable somewhere inside, say,
Windows XP.

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Re: Message Appearance

[David E. Ross]

On 4/21/12 8:54 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 21.04.2012 10:13, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> 
>  --- Original Message ---
> 
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>
>>> I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in
>>> SeaMonkey.
>>
>> I often do, because I have remote images disabled to protect my privacy.
>> And the trend is to track readership by using web beacons and hiding
>> links behind redirects via a tracking service such as Constant Contact,
>> Salsa Labs, etc.
>>
> 
> IIRC, the only way that remote images can present a problem is by the
> use of an embedded javascript routine in the image url. JS is disabled
> by default in TB.
> 

CERT (the Computer Emergency Response Team of the U.S. Department of
Homeland Security) has documented several instances where GIF, JPEG,
BMP, and PNG image files were themselves malware.  Go to
 and search on "JPEG OR GIF OR PNG OR BMP"
(without the quote marks) in the search box in the upper-right corner.

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Re: Message Appearance

[Jay Garcia]

On 21.04.2012 16:13, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
> 
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
 I have absolutely no problem reading HTML newsletters and email in
 SeaMonkey.
>>> 
>>> I often do, because I have remote images disabled to protect my
>>> privacy. And the trend is to track readership by using web beacons and
>>> hiding links behind redirects via a tracking service such as Constant
>>> Contact, Salsa Labs, etc.
>>
>> IIRC, the only way that remote images can present a problem is by the
>> use of an embedded javascript routine in the image url. JS is disabled
>> by default in TB.
> 
> No, that isn't the case. All it takes is a link to a remote image with 
> "parameters" added to the link. If you display remote images, you will be 
> tagged; JavaScript is *not* needed. Spammers have been doing this for at 
> least a decade or more. Sample:
> 
> 
> 
> All those random-looking codes are specific to your particular email and 
> address. These are commonly called "web beacons" and the web host will 
> add you to the database of people who've read the email and have a valid 
> address. Expect more spam.
> 

Ok, the ones I ran across many years ago were JS related.


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Re: saving email as text file

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 21/04/2012 19:35, Rick Merrill told the world:

> Yes but - it would be "nice" to make it automatic.  I think the "eml" is
> from a Microsoft standard - it should be fixable somewhere inside, say,
> Windows XP.

I think that the internal format of an EML file is supposed to follow
the standard RFC 822/2822/5322 MIME format, although I wouldn't be sure
that the ones generated by Microsoft software follow the RFC to the
letter. I'm no expert, but it sure looks like a standard mail message to
me...

RFC 5322 does not specify the EML extension. However, having a special
file extension for it is useful, since you can (theoretically at least)
store messages as easily identified stand-alone files. Replacing it with
a generic TXT file extension is in most cases less useful. If you want
EML files to open by default in Notepad instead of Seamonkey, you can
always change the file association in Windows.

Seamonkey can both save messages as .EML files and parse them in the
browser, displaying the headers. Unfortunately, I didn't find a
convenient way to import EML messages to the mail clients (the way you
can do it in Outlook Express by the simple expedient of dropping them in
a folder, for instance).

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Re: saving email as text file

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 21/04/2012 19:35, Rick Merrill told the world:

> 
> Yes but - it would be "nice" to make it automatic.  I think the "eml" is
> from a Microsoft standard - it should be fixable somewhere inside, say,
> Windows XP.
> 

Just an addendum to my previous post:

You might be thinking of .msg, the format Office Outlook uses. .MSG is
based on a Microsoft format called "COM stuctured storage OLE2 compound
documents"

The .eml format (used, among others, by Outlook Express) is supposed to
be RFC822-based. At least, the Mozilla version is.

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Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Glamsmash Productions]

I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

Please help me figure this out, thanks!
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How do I convert database?

[Yaakov Nahum Ben-Avraham - Яаков Нахум Бен-Аврахам - יעקב נחום בן אברהם]

I am using SeaMonkey 1.1.13 on a Linux 2.6.27.7
kernel and Slackware 12.2 distribution.

I would like to convert my database, including the
Address Book and other Mail info, Bookmarks, etc.
to SeaMonkey 2.1b3 on a Linux 2.6.37.6 kernel
and Slackware 13.37 distribution.

How do I go about doing this in a fail-safe manner?

- Yaakov

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